‘After years of trying to make sense of extremism, I want to understand the lives of ordinary Muslims, to go behind the walls and dispel the mystery and suspicion felt by non-Muslims on the outside’
The BBC has just broadcast what can only be described as a very provocative piece of pro-Muslim propaganda for the East London Mosque which has a well deserved reputation for extremist teachings (any search on Harry’s Place will confirm that…or Andrew Gilligan in the Telegraph). The BBC programme by Robb Leech was deliberately naive, shallow and very restrictive in its scope as to what it investigated in an attempt to avoid and downplay ‘Muslim’ issues. As said the ELM is well known for its extremist associations and it looks like the BBC has set out to whitewash those concerns and paint a picture of brave British Muslims under siege from both government and the media….Leech repeatedly suggesting that the racism of the 70’s was back in the form of ‘Islamophobia’….and yet he made little, no, attempt to delve into the most controversial aspects of Islam that give rise to very serious and credible concerns about its teachings preferring instead to concentrate on how Islam segregates women….an issue but hardly the one that is relevant to radicalisation and joining ISIL.
Rather astonishingly even Mishal Husain on the Today programme (08:47) found Leech’s narrative of Muslims under siege not credible saying, when Leech and a Muslim guest from the Mosque suggested that Muslims were being unfairly targeted, besieged, as likely subjects of radicalisation, that that was because most terrorists were Muslims. Leech jumped in to say his brother had been radicalised proving that it’s not just Muslims being radicalised…Husain pointed out the obvious flaw in his argument…his brother, the Jihadi, had converted to Islam and then been radicalised.
Leech is always keen to claim that his brother converted to ‘an extreme form of Islam’…he ‘hastens to add’. However there is no moderate or extreme Islam, there is just Islam….as any Muslim would have told him. However Islam, everyday, conservative Islam, is extreme in relation to a Western society….something Leech was trying to hide.
Leech’s programme was simply a long, disingenuous piece of highly misleading film that gave a very one-sided view of the Mosque and Islam. Where were the critics of the Mosque, where were the claims about what the Mosque had been doing, where were the indepth explorations of Islamic teachings? Nowhere to be seen.
Leech gave us a film that said Muslims are lovely people, just like you and me, yes they may have ‘conservative’ values but you know what, live and let live, we must ignore such alien and scary beliefs and values being fostered in our midst.
Here’s a taste of Leech’s thoughts…
The general reaction in Britain to Islam…it’s another form of racism comparable to what happened in the 70’s….it makes Muslims feel different….hmmm…the whole film showed them to be different…because their religion taught them to be that way…..an Imam in the programme said if not submit to God, the teachings of the Koran and Hadith, then Islam is compromised….so to be a good Muslim you must be fundamentalist….that seemed to pass Leech by.
We heard that the families of the three ‘Jihadi Brides’ were ‘just normal East London families’ and that Leech was ‘just as puzzled as the families as to why the girls were radicalised’…he was ‘struck by how ordinary the families were’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54R4gdaxdoI
Unfortunately we know that at least one girl’s father was a radical himself…Leech slipped round to his house for an explanation….apparently the father knew nothing about it, he had no idea the protest was radical…despite all the flags, banners and chants of death to America and no’s to democracy.
Leech tells us that ‘It’s not hard to see how a man like [the father] might feel lost and seek identity and empowerment in a protest whether extremist or not.’ WTF! Really? Is Leech really saying that for some reason the father is ‘lost’ and that that is an understandable reason to become a ‘radical’? Does Leech really believe that the man had no idea what he was doing at that protest?
We then heard from Leech’s mosque guide that ‘Young people are MADE to feel not part of Western society so of course there is an attraction to something which welcomes them, invites them to join and makes them feel valued’ OK…except it is Islam that tells them they are not part of Western society, and why is an ELM official justifying and almost endorsing radicalisation?
We then had an Imam come on to tell us that the ELM was progressive, it is the media that is wrongly portraying it as extreme, that Muslim values were the same as British values…Leech declaring that he didn’t even know what British values were…thereby trying to suggest perhaps that they didn’t exist and therefore Muslim ones can’t be ‘alien’ to British society.
Leech says ‘I can see how Muslims can feel victimised by government policy and besieged by the media.’ The Imam prefers ‘moral clarity’ to ‘interference from government’ i.e he wants Muslims to be left to follow their religion whatever form that may take…without ‘draconian‘ laws restricting their fundamental beliefs.
Leech again sympathises uncritically with Muslims saying ‘I understand the predicament that Muslims find themselves in, under constant siege they lack the confidence to have a loud and clear voice.’ That is just complete rubbish…there is no more vocal and aggressively loud and demanding group than the Muslim community and government is constantly pandering to those demands with money, influence and political positions handed out to placate them.
When Ofsted visits the school at the mosque Leech is shocked that they ask the pupils how they felt about the Islamic state and if they support its views and actions….Leech thinks this is only being asked because they are Muslim…and therefore is unjustifiable…hmmm…yes it is being asked because they are Muslim, because, as Mishal Husain pointed out, most of the terrorists are Muslim. Leech thinks this is forcing Muslims to ‘prove they are British’…and that’s ‘not a good thing’. Curiously, paradoxically, at the end of the film he asks exactly the same question to some young Muslims…and they all denounce ISIL….have they proved to him they are British?
Leech concludes that any radicalisation, such as with the three Jihadi Brides, was purely a social media phenomenon and nothing to do with the Mosque…or indeed Islam….we are told the girls didn’t even go to the ELM and yet that’s not true and the first port of call for the families is….the ELM.
Leech is constantly confronted by evidence of fundamentalist, conservative Islam, especially amongst the young, and yet he manages to dismiss the importance of that and suggests that it has nothing to do with ‘radicalisation’ or that it may pose a problem for a Western, democratic, liberal society.
He talks to three youths who are part of their college Islamic society and are devout Muslims….we know that such societies are ‘hotbeds’ of Islamic fundamentalism and yet Leech doesn’t have any recognition of that….he makes absolutely no connection between the strong conservative Islamic values held by the young Muslims and potential radicalisation.
Finally he concludes that the level of conservativism on display at the Mosque maybe ‘alien and scary‘ to non-Muslims but these are normal British people with British values….so he seems to know what British values are when it suits his narrative…apparently they come from the Koran.
He tells us that (I paraphrase) ‘What I’ve seen is a community under siege, the younger generation suffers racism because of their faith just as their parents did for the colour of their skin. I don’t believe the mosque is a hotbed of radicalisation. The people here are British with British values, values which mean accepting and celebrating our differences together’.
Lovely sentiments….pity Islam doesn’t teach that. Pity Leech doesn’t actually do a proper investigation of the mosque, its activities and its associates and the real meaning and teachings of Islam.
This whole programme was badly misconceived….firstly we have a film maker who is unable to separate his own feelings from the reality and instead of analysing that reality gives us his own naive, sentimental and overly sympathetic interpretation of events. The film didn’t get anywhere near a genuine investigation of the claims about the ELM’s association with extremists, nor did it explore Islam and why its teachings alienate its followers from a Western society and may lead to radicalisation. Instead we had an uninformed, misleading rant against the government, the media and non-Muslim society putting the blame for alienation and radicalisation squarely at their door.
The BBC is highly irresponsible in producing such a one-sided and deliberately misleading programme that paints Muslims as victims of a racist society and thus incites radicalisation by encouraging that feeling of alienation and ‘disenfranchisement’ we are so often told they suffer from….which the BBC ‘proves’ that they do.
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“Leech gave us a film that said Muslims are lovely people, just like you and me, yes they may have ‘conservative’ values but you know what, live and let live, we must ignore such alien and scary beliefs and values being fostered in our midst.”
Which proves such lefties are actually racists too. Had they been white English people with “conservative” values, they are to be denounced, demonised and publicly attacked at every opportunity. If the conservative wears a Kufi hat, then, “eh, live and let live” The white English conservative may approve of homosexual marriage, but he’s still “tory scum” the Kufi wearing conservative may agree with throwing homosexuals off rooftops to their deaths, but if his skin is dark? Live and let live.
Lefties are simply hypocritical racists and bigots.
Another excellent summary on what can only be described as treacherous propaganda.
As is the case with the majority of BBC output, I was dubious as to whether this programme would actually serve as an investigation.
Unfortunately, and to no surprise at all, my pre-conceptions were validated within the opening few minutes.
The BBC is incapable of portraying Muslims/Islam in a bad light, whether it’s justified or not.
Like the majority of posters on this blog, I’m worried about the future of this country.
I’m angry that our politicians/media are bending over backwards in order to appease Muslims.
I’m disheartened that decent people – people I once thought were independent minded – can no longer think for themselves through fear of reprisals.
I’m disillusioned with the British public. There’s a lot of people who share our fears – both in Britain and across Europe – yet they have been muted by political correctness.
The BBC has been vociferous in its support of Islam despite growing concerns from the general public.
The BBC is supposed to serve the British people. Disgustingly, it’s quite the contrary.
The sooner it’s abolished, the sooner we can begin to openly criticise Islam in its entirety.
BBC’s Ceefax news has this curious setting, that if the perpetrators of a crime have non-Muslim names, they are listed. Such as, Richard leRoy, 26 and cousin Justin Mugambe, 25 were arrested and released on bail.
OTH, if the names are Muslim sounding, only the gender and age are posted.
“Police arrested a 17 year old white man and a 42 year old youth”
I watched this travesty of wicked BBC propaganda last night and in the periods between shouting at the television (ask them about the regular, weekly extremist preachers!!) I found myself thinking something along these lines – If the BBC had made a documentary about the poor, besieged Nazis in 1939 would they also have avoided asking some questions that really begged to be asked – such as the Nazi Prophet’s thoughts on world supremacism, attitude toward Jews, homosexuals, those not of “the faith” etc etc. This programme was so utterly lacking in seriousness and so utterly biased toward the supremacist and illiberal ideology of Islam that it became, in essence, a piece of pure propaganda aimed at whitewashing the very real threat of Islam which could violently destroy Western civilisation before 2050. Muslims must be very glad they just happen to be brown. If they had the misfortune to be white the BBC would have a field day in denouncing them for exactly what they are – Nazis from a non-Aryan background. Infantile, dangerous, treacherous, immoral, dishonest and disgusting pretty much sums up the BBC these days. Some of those traits are simply disapponiting, one in particular though could very well lead to prosecution and imprisonment in the future. I’m surprised the BBC, EU et al seem blissfully unaware that many European natives are rapidly turning to “extreme right-wing” parties in France, Austria, Sweden, Holland, Denmark (Britain sadly lacks such support and only has UKIP which was never set up in order to counter Islam) and that once these parties take power over the coming decade they WILL be looking to hold the traitor class to judicial account.
If you listen to the MSM, there is only ‘centre’ politics, ‘left-centre’ and ‘extreme right’ or ‘far-right’. UKIP and Liberty I presume by MSM definition are classed as the latter two, indistinguishable from BNP, National Front, etc. Where do you think the MSM politically define small c conservatives?
Corbyn is far-Left. He supports an ideology which killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. But he will never be denounced for this by the BBC, nor will he be called an extremist. Moderate Muslims are deemed moderate because they don’t carry out violence and murder. “Right-wingers” are deemed extremist because they denounce Islamic violence and supremacism. We are living through insane times courtesy of PC Establishment power. I’m really not sure who the MSM would define as a small c conservative, even Cameron is to the right of that according to Al-Beeb. When will we ever see the MSM publicly muse upon the fact that Islam is supremacist, warlike, violent, hateful, misogynistic etc because its revered founder was a violent warlord? Will we ever see the MSM denounce the extreme far-right attitudes of Islam or will they continue to avoid criticism because they are everything Britain historically has never been? The BBC is guilty of anti-British hatred and treason.
“The BBC is guilty of anti-British hatred and treason.”
I agree, and has been for many years, the depth and frequency of treasonous BBC acts, is increasing.
The House of Commons is also guilty of the same crimes.
The queen, who has given her assent to the treasonous activities of MPs, should either abdicate or withdraw her assent.
Everyone who approves of the EU is either a dope or a traitor, many are both.
Time to cleanse the Augean stables that the UK has become.
Would that ‘racism of the 1970s’ be the type practised by many on the left, who thought it was a way of capitalists to oppress the workers by flooding the country with cheap labour?
“Finally he concludes that the level of conservativism on display at the Mosque maybe ‘alien and scary‘ to non-Muslims”
Really? Are we scared of Synagogues, Sikh Gurdwaras, wandering through Chinatown, all alien? No, Mosques represent a demonstrable threat. People have been killed, that’s scary.
I thought it would present a rosy eyed view of Islam but watch for a short while until my thoughts were confirmed, then I had to switch off. He was met at the Mosque by a ‘happy clappy’ muslim and was then introduced to a ‘smiley faced Muslim. He was shown the empty office of the Imam and was told “he was not in today”. Too true, given the day off no doubt. Don’t know what he looks like but maybe his image and attitude would not have been in keeping with the projection.
Akin to the “difficult pupils” being sent on a school trip on the day of the Ofsted visit. Quite prevalent, I am told.
I switched the television off the second the programme came on so I can’t really comment on the content. I had a vain hope, perhaps just a silly fantasy that there would be a national switching off across the country by a public utterly sick of having Islam endlessly shoved down their throats by the BBC.
In 1989 when the Fatwa was issued against Salman Rushdie there was almost unanimous condemnation from the liberal left for this act of utter barbarity. But now Rushdie himself would probably be condemned by the BBC for offending Muslims. We have laws against FGM, but not one single conviction, because the authorities are too afraid to step into such culturally sensitive waters. Underage girls were abused on mass in Rotherham and Cambridge for years, by mainly Muslim men, before the police and the social services dared to do anything about it. Even now the BBC continues to conceal the identities of the perpetrators in similar cases if they are Muslims. The Police regularly close down events if they are thought to be offensive to Muslims – for ”security reasons”. We have become a nation of kowtowing cowards.
Imagine going back to 1989 and describing Britain in 2015. No one would believe you. Or imagine twenty-five years into the future. Will we be urged to convert to Islam simply not to offend our Muslim Brothers? If the BBC still exists in 2040 it will, without doubt be at the forefront of this campaign.
Would anybody be honestly surprised, that if in the very near future Leech himself “reverted” to Islam…..If he hasn’t done so already that is?
Why is someone as deliberately ignorant and naive as Leech given a hefty commission by the BBC to make a film ? Why not someone like Andrew Gillligan with genuine journalistic skills ?
Stupid question, I suppose.
Actually it is not a stupid question at all. It is the key question which goes to the heart of what is wrong at the BBC. It is a left wing organisation which would never countenance broadcasting a programme which challenged its institutional world view, and it gets away with this because it is funded by the force of the law.
As in the Andrew Gilligan who exposed the Trojan Horse scandal at Birmingham schools? You’re correct, John – a stupid question….
It’s hard to see Gilligan ever being welcomed back to the BBC after what happened last time.
Which, given his post-BBC record investigating Islamic corruption, probably suits them just fine.
Leech’s possible reversion? It would be a surprise if he did, but not a complete shock.
Robb Leech knows the truth. He is a victim of our schools’ push towards moral relativism. He can not accept the truth, nor be honest with himself, because if he is honest with himself and accepts the truth, he understands that he is then ‘a racist’ and ‘far right’. As he knows that he isn’t ‘a racist’, or ‘far right’, he can not accept the truth about Islam – and so his sorry confused life goes on as a brother of a jihadi. I couldn’t face Robb’s program. As it was being shown on the BBC, I knew that Rob could not have completed his ‘journey’. My post from yesterday:
What stops Robb understanding?
I have read this Guardian article. Robb Leach has my sympathy for the circumstances he finds himself in. Also, his article from a year ago has much sense in it.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/22/brother-jihadi-terrorist-society-extremism
Robb’s sub-heading reads:
Extremism of any kind is a symptom of an unhealthy society and, in order to eradicate it, we should look to treat its cause
Very sensible comment Robb. Also this (my emphasis):
From the moment he converted, Rich was talking about fighting western oppression and dying a martyr. In a sense, the writing was on the wall. Violent jihad was something he and his “brothers” constantly talked about.
And some honest self-realisation:
In hindsight, Rich’s arrest and subsequent conviction shouldn’t have come as a surprise to me: he set out to do what he had always talked of. As I stood in the public gallery and heard the evidence put forward by the prosecution, I looked into the dock to see Rich’s stony face (which would shortly afterwards utter the word “guilty”), and felt let down and sad, but also unexpectedly stupid.
Robb’s conclusion also has its grounds in reason:
The inherent problem in attempting to tackle radicalisation is that often it is too late. By the time its signs begin to show, the scene is already set. Extremism of any kind is a symptom of an unhealthy society and, like any illness, in order to eradicate it, we should look to treat its cause.
To complete his ‘journey’, Robb only needs to admit to himself that the ‘illness’ is Islamic extremism; the symptoms are dead apostates, dead gays, abused women, raped children and barbaric societies; The cause is Muslims acting in accordance with their beliefs; the facilitators are the Koran, Imams, mosques, Muslim parents and the politicians who have facilitated the introduction of Islam into our country over decades, amplified in the last 18 years through deliberate social engineering through mass immigration.
So Robb, should you wish to treat its cause, be honest with yourself, accept that you won’t get another gig with the Guardian/BBC and those not honest enough to be honest with themselves. You Robb should be working with these guys ‘n gals:
http://www.shariawatch.org.uk/
Once we as a society have accepted the truth, however much we might dislike that truth, the real question that needs asking is: How can our country (and other non-islamic countries), peacefully and humanely, rid the land of Islam? Unlike with Christianity, a Reformation of Islam is not realistic, as secular students of Islam testify. As a secular society with a Christian history we should assume that this solution, a Reformation which is outwith our influence, will not happen and we should prepare and act accordingly.
As many will know, when one sees this truth the experience is irreversible, as you become to understand the all too real existential threat that Islam is to our very civilisation.
Excellent points angrymanupnorth! You ask: “How can our country (and other non-islamic countries), peacefully and humanely, rid the land of Islam?”
My feeling is this can only be achieved by a blanket ban on all Islamic institutions completely. If that fails, then repatriation to their Islamic mother countries becomes necessary.
I would be interested in the viewpoints of others regarding such extreme measures. I would favour extreme but peaceful today, rather than extreme and violent in 2030-2050.
We’ve seen just this week the left Brownshirts violently attack a cafe in Brick Lane on a fairly flimsy premise without much fuss in the MSM. I think it’s a case of these incidents becoming more and more common and unchallenged (especially by the ‘so-called’ police).
SWP/Soap Not Hate/Unison/etc all seem to collectively and effectively mobilise and be pointed in a certain direction by their masters.
Armed struggle against this shit is inevitable sadly.
Even the ‘Independent’ described those attacks as ‘thinly veiled xenophobia’ because one of the stated targets was ‘Israeli property developers’. Yet, there is no widespread sense of outrage at these attacks. They get away with it because they are a left-wing organisation and many people in this country still get a frisson of teenage excitement about anything that smacks of ‘Revolooooshun’.
And, by all accounts, egged on by pseudo-academics. Now that most definitely is a stable that needs clearing out!
I doubt it was just xenophobia. Outright anti Semitism is more likely. As I said the election of Corbyn will make all sorts of unpleasant people and behaviour respectable.
Interesting propositions Paul, and thank you. And thank you also for fronting up with some suggestions. I stopped short of proposing any possible, viable mechanisms to start healing our society and addressing the cause. I had hoped that someone would ‘start the ball rolling’ and you did.
‘A blanket ban on Islamic institutions’. Whether this would be an effective policy in itself is uncertain. Clearly, this requires elected political will and is an inevitable eventuality in the long term if the UK is not to become an Islamic country. The issue of a ban would require ‘Islam’ to be re-designated under English Law from a religion to a banned organisation (Cult? Terrorist Organisation?). As we are in a position where the truthful teachings of Islam are generally not known to the non-Muslim population of the UK, this can not currently happen and other mechanisms are required to allow non-Muslims to understand the construct of the ‘religion’ of Islam. Hence, non-Muslims really don’t understand what the Koran is to a Muslim, conceiving it to be a bit like the bible is to a Christian.
I would suggest (immediately) that certain current laws should be strictly implemented. The use of the term ‘honour killing’ being used to redefine cold blooded murder should be challenged every time it is used. FGM – parents of victims of this ghastly crime should be punished in accordance with the law and the penalties should be severe. Apostates should be supported, protected and sheltered (this would require a mass voluntary movement outwith government). Apostasy or conversion should be vocally encouraged – Why is the C of E and other Christian Churches not doing this? Surely this is part of their raison d’etre? Do they (Christians) not believe their own beliefs?
Discourse, communication and education have a long way to go to wake up sufficient numbers such that the public debate is liberated. That is when questions can be forcefully examined in the public domain and the truth about Islam more widely revealed. Without this wider discourse, without the truth being visible, without competent honourable political leadership, without the cause of the problem being defined and disseminated, the solutions to the problem can not be discussed, refined and implemented.
Simple questions asked of Imams live on TV could help inform this discourse. I’ll give you two, others may have similar simple questions.
1. “Sir, could you confirm what the penalty for apostasy is?” There is a definitive answer to this questions, yet why do Imams on TV never know the answer?
2. “Sir, could you confirm what the penalty for blasphemy is?” Certain ‘left wing’ cartoonists in Paris found out the answer and the cowards in our press and government shed not one tear for them or the suffering of their friends and families.
Until the cowards and facilitators of industrial scale rape (the BBC, main stream media and LibLabCon) are replaced, we can only keep on shouting. Everybody I know understands what I think, because I won’t stop discussing this until those that we pay to discuss this, start to do so. My girlfriend is pissed off with me as it doesn’t go down well in most circles, but she knows she can’t change me and knows that I am right.
I agree that education about Islam is essential before we will get anywhere. This is where sites such as shariawatch etc play such an important role. As individuals we have to point people at these sites so they can start to educate themselves.
As we all know, the BBC is certainly not going to educate anyone about Islam.
I think there should be a tax on Mosques to pay for the security needed at events such as the cartoon exhibition.
Here’s and idea for the West London Mosque.
How about putting on this exhibition?
British values are the ridiculing of the ridiculous.
How can Muslims at the East London mosque feel beleagured ? The mosque is on the Mile End Road in Tower Hamlets, slap bang in the centre of an enormous Bangladeshi community, with their local Council run and largely staffed by Bangladeshis. It is the indigenous Brits who are beleagured in Tower Hamlets !
Good point John. Do you think Mosques have an ‘equal opportunities policy’ to ensure that their employees are representative of the country as a whole and that white people, non muslim people, women and those of all religious and sexual orientations are included?
Remember the programme which was a hatchet job on Ukip in Thanet? They can make programmes like that if they want. I simply don’t think there is any such thing as an impartial programme maker, they all bring their own agendas, which are invariably leftist. One of the BBC’s great sins is to pretend it is impartial when it is clearly part of the left wing agenda. Can anyone seriously think that a programme challenging the activities of the East London Mosque would ever have been made, much less broadcast?
Thanks Alan, an excellent summary.
This word Racism gets banded about but nearly always in the wrong context. Race concerns the colour of a persons skin, not their culture or religious ideology, which in this case happens to be the bone of contention with those that follow the teachings of Islam.
I am not a racsist, are you? Do we really care about the colour of someone’s skin, no we don’t, but irrespective of their colour, I/we do care and are deeply concerned about those that follow such a despotic, political religious ideology. Yes like Oldartist my wife and I did not watch the programme, too disgusted to think the BBC would show such a programme-of course we should have known better.
Merkel is doing a huge diservice to Europe-The current open discussions, especiallyin Germany, over mass (collective not individual) immigration that builds its premise on the word ‘refugee’ instead of the meaning of ‘migrant’, or better stated, of the economically motivated migrant, is very dubious-it is deceptive, its is misleading and with excessively exaggerated political correctness, is down-right suicidal.
Of course, the real problem is not the programme itself – that can be enjoyed or reviled at the viewers’ leisure – it is the decision to produce it. It is the arrogant assumption that the programme makers at the BBC know best, that a ridiculously transparent distortion of the facts will not only be credible but also creditable, and capable of transforming long-term opinion for ‘the better’, simply because of its ‘world renowned’ source.
It is precisely the same mind-set that uses a newspaper with the second lowest circulation in the UK (only the Independent achieves a greater level of public disinterest) as a yardstick for all its promotions, productions and opinions. It illustrates a staggering degree of distain for the overwhelming majority and will, inevitably, be the ideal embodiment of the adage, ‘pride comes before a fall’ – although not before all those pension funds have been transferred to Swiss accounts.
I would like to thank the friend of this site who told us yesterday that the filmaker of this Islamic Puff Piece (can I use the towards Islamic and Puff in the same sentence?) has a step/brother who`s a convicted terrorist who`s in prison.
Thanks to my friend here-I saved myself a hour of crap and prospects of an ulcer.
Therefore, no opinion-it`s just the BBC sniffing Muhammads thong from Jimmy Saviles laundry basket.
It`s what the BBC does-24/7.
We then had an Imam come on to tell us that the ELM was progressive, it is the media that is wrongly portraying it as extreme, that Muslim values were the same as British values…Leech declaring that he didn’t even know what British values were…thereby trying to suggest perhaps that they didn’t exist and therefore Muslim ones can’t be ‘alien’ to British society.
My bold to emphasize an oft-repeated – make that very oft-repeated – view to be heard on the BBC (yes, Easton, that includes you, you mealy-mouthed traitorous twat). So I’d go several steps further than Alan and say this is a deliberate tactic designed to further the cause of every imported culture – but mainly Islam – that threatens to undermine a way of life we have fought wars and sacrificed millions of lives to protect. It’s a way of life the Hard Left absolutely despise and will seek to destroy in any way they can.
So this is them nudging things along by saying, ‘Look, you have no culture or values to lose, so how can you possibly complain?’
Once the BBC start to feel the impact of this creeping Islamisation of Britain – a fatwa or two might do the trick – they might, just might, have their own waking up moment. But by then it will be too late.
A couple of weeks ago I attended a small rural event in Devon. Typical West Country if you like. Now who should turn up but a couple with their child. He fashionably dressed in expensive designer clothes and she in a burka and full face mask.
Always behind her husband wherever he went. Three of four paces and it was her who attended to the child.
She was invisble simply because in our culture we are used to see faces. When we can’t that person becomes invisible and I watched as everyone else just ignored her as though she was not there.
Not so her husband who spoke freely and smiled and was at ease but also ignoring his wife.
Maybe she freely chose to hide herself maybe not but that is not the way in our land and never has been.
It is this desire amongst some Muslims to keep themselves so seperate that it leads to the inevitable suspicion and then to closed and opposed communities.
The burka and the face mask should be banned. They have no place in our land and any argument to the contrary is special pleading for what has never been acceptable in the past.
My daughter who is a feminist and quite militant at last could see just how invisible a woman becomes when covered up in a society where it has never been the norm and at last understood why I say that the feminists are betraying women by tolerating cultural practices that they themselves would never submit to in a thousand years.