Tonight Panorama broadcasts this: The VIP Paedophile Ring: What’s the Truth?
What’s the truth? Good question. Will Panorama provide the answer?…We know that the BBC grandees have been panicking about this Panorama programme lest it bring into question the BBC’s own reporting of ‘Nick’ and his allegations….and judging by this trailing article for the programme by Ceri Thomas I have my doubts….search for ‘BBC’ and you’ll get one reference in the article….‘They included places where Savile had done dreadful things – the BBC and the NHS’.
So things happened at the BBC but that’s just geography?
Thomas doesn’t seem to want the BBC to get any of the blame, at least in this article…that goes to the police, the Press and the politicians….those ‘Big Institutions’….hmmm…doen’t he mean big institutions like the BBC as well?
What we’ve found while we’ve been making this Panorama is a concern that all those big institutions – the police, press and politicians – are so determined to atone for the sins of the past that they’re in danger of inventing whole new categories of mistakes. The motivation may be good, but the outcome can be awful.
And look at this….Thomas claims the police have been spreading highly damaging allegations as they are…..
….giving up on even-handed, evidence-based policing at enormous cost to the reputations of people who’ve been accused – people like Harvey Proctor, Leon Brittan, Sir Edward Heath. How much responsibility do the police bear for smoke-damage when they light the most enormous fire?
Oh and the politicians? …Why didn’t they catch old Savile out?…..
They’d been far too cosy with the media and the police – the same police who’d failed to collar Jimmy Savile.
And the Press…..
And then there’s the press…….miserably incompetent at investigating Jimmy Savile’s crimes.
And check this out….the wild west of the internet is blamed for lynching politicians without evidence…
And so, parts of the media – particularly the online, alternative media – raced down that road, publishing wild stories without pausing to check if they were true. A lot of things have been published that should never have been.
Hang on right there…..wasn’t it the BBC that hung Lord McAlpine out to dry on utterly false allegations?
Laughably Thomas ends on this….
[Are the allegations true?] A better answer might be to say that the real problem would be if the police, politicians and the press have decided that it doesn’t matter either way.
If the priority for those institutions has become patching up their battered reputations, then victims of abuse could be vulnerable again – pawns in the game – and the reputations of the accused would be acceptable collateral damage.
The police, press and politicans guarding their reputations? Maybe…but this is all about the BBC really…..how can Thomas manage to write an article that in essence revolves around Savile and the BBC’s reaction to that, their reaction, or lack of, as he was committing the abuse and in the fallout afterwards when it came into the open (I won’t say ‘discovered’ because the BBC knew about it long before it was common knowledge) and the BBC ducked for cover.
For the BBC this has always been about guarding their reputation not about the truth, protecting themselves much as they, and those ‘big institutions’ protected the abusers in Rotherham and Rochdale, covering up for them in order for the pretence of ‘social cohesion’ in a wonderfully diverse and yet magically integrated society to be kept up…never mind the hundreds and hundreds of young, white girls that were sacrificed on that PC altar.
Perhaps the actual programme mentions the BBC’s role in all this. If so why not in this article that seems to be deliberately and very carefully worded to avoid any blame going to the BBC?
Alan, it strikes me that the BBC is always far more exercised about allegations involving white, British men groping kids than it ever is about ‘Asian men’ raping them on a near-industrial scale up and down the UK. I struggle to understand why this is the case. Tonight on Panorama, we’ll doubtless be treated (if that’s the right word) to a 1-hour ‘examination’ of claims of a ‘VIP paedophile ring’ operating within Westminster, the Met and the world of popular entertainment. These rumours and claims share a common theme – the alleged perpetrators are all said to be middle-aged white men.
A little while ago, it was revealed that underaged white British girls were being raped, sexually exploited for money and physically abused by gangs of ‘Asian men’ (aka: muslims) in several English towns and cities. The numbers of abused children ran into the 1000’s, according to the best estimates of informed social services investigators.
I’m still waiting for the BBC’s ‘in depth’ analysis of that minor little affair – or is there some kind of, oh I dunno, ‘exemption’ that applies when such crimes involve ‘Asian men’..?
Obi, The BBC are not interested if the white men are BBC employees like Jimmy Savile and God knows how many others.
So basically the BBC are only interested if it is Conservative politicians who are being accused of being child abusers, even if those who are accusing them are Labour Party activists with a history of fabricating accusations, and of course abuse perpetrated by Christian priests, whose predatory homosexuality was wickedly ignored, unlike say the Dr Who producer who abused teenage boys on BBC premises, whose behaviour should be forgiven.
Did WE pay for MacAlpines compensation when the BBC lied and contrived to stitch up a dying man-simply because he was a Tory way back?
And what about Cliff Richards case-has the BBC stopped trying to win awards for its “helicopter parenting” in using police helicopters or such to smear an old Christian who was tainted by being-well not being liked by a character of Rick Mayalls, and daring to get a #1 record out as the elite stood outside their Vacuous temple of Stool that was “The Dome” New year 2000?
The cultural elite HATE that kind of invasion of their “spaces”-witness their bile when the Tories act and claim to be a party of “working people”.
Labours job is to enslave and to groom them and their fecund fat kids…any other outcome after years of the NUT and cBBC is a failure to them all.
When the BBC have settled with Cliff-and I hope to heaven that he destroys them from his Portuguese vineyard-THEN we`ll revisit Savile.
When it comes to the BBC and child abuse…they need to STFU….just a series of Mr Pastrys or Uncle Jimmys…and always have been.
Now THAT`S an area where only BBC women need to be employed-Biddy Baxter would have cut Saviles goolies off-and hence saved us a lot of trouble.
Chris H, your problem is that you have too strong a sense of right and wrong. Try to forget about what is right and wrong, and ask instead if a claim furthers the ideological ends of the Left or not. If it does truth (and abused kids) can go to hell. Everything is justified by the end – the building of a utopia in which all that has gone before is destroyed.
You`re so right Wild.
These are the people who think it a good day to bury bad news on 9/11-and sack the only honest one among them in the form of Martin Sixsmith.
The same craven shits who rather liked the Paedophile Information Exchange insofar as it moved the Gramscian agenda along…and made political stars out of such nonentities and nomarks as Harman, Hewitt and Dromey.
People like Jacqui Smith who pays for hubbys porn at our expense-among many other Labour troughers.
It`s worse for self-righteous virtue-signalllng types like Labour in that they dare to say that they are entitled to their aairmiles, expenses and fiddles-becaus they`re so damn certain that they`re doing good.
And will fiddle, bend and twist all evidence and facts to the contrary-and would rather see an opponent in prison for whistle blowing than admit that they`re lying.
Mid-Staffs comes to mind
You`re right too re “right and wrong”-but I know they`ll get theirs,….but they`re not taking mine without a fight and some “consciousness-raising”…and there are many good people on this site who do the same.
We seem to have lost our trolls….a nice place these days isn`t it here?
Oh-and they use the likes of Millie Dowler for her shroud and some soundbite cliche of their devising-wonder why they call the Tories “scum”?…jizzaz. all of em…
The BBC drew a line in the sand dividing what is “right and wrong” decades ago, and has constantly spewed out propaganda and bias to set this line into stone. It has been a barricade for some time. No criticism, no outsiders, no alternative views. Inclusive, sympathetic, safe moral judgement nobody can argue with (racism is bad, nuclear weapons are evil) is a good lecturing platform, but violence, intimidation and threats are OK when the wall feels threatened.
It is no good tackling such closed minded hatred with acts of diplomacy or understanding in the hope your view might be considered. 911 good day to bury bad news, BBC redrawing the map of Israel moving Jerusalem 3 miles to the left so its deep in Israel territory.
Simulated chemical bombings in Syria for BBC footage. Its just endless.
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpress.com/2015/07/26/finally-an-admission-from-bbc-that-their-syria-aleppo-footage-was-faked/
There is no need to pick out examples really, because it is a constant fraudulent narrative. For those who have seen this narrative for years or decades then you have my sympathy, but keep at it.
Those in the middle are being forced to take a more rightist stance to make themselves heard. I had never had to consider race or migration until the last couple of years. Like so many people, I have been forced from the safe middle to combat the craziness that is going on in front of my eyes courtesy of the BBC. Grey areas are disappearing. It is either right or wrong. There is no middle ground.
It is not the first time the BBC have redrawn maps for their own political purposes. Whether in error or not, it is just one symptom of the BBC’s total lack of professionalism .
Redrawing of maps is seldom an accident.
The current Guardian Headline:
Sex abuse claim against Leon Brittan ‘began as joke’ – BBC report
A vulnerable man who made sex abuse allegations against politicians, including the former home secretary Leon Brittan, has told the BBC he “just went along with” names that were initially suggested as a joke. The man told Panorama he may have been led into making the claims by campaigners who provided the names of a number of high-profile figures “as a joke suggestion to start with”, but which were later repeated in earnest. A report on the BBC news website hours before the film was due to air said “Panorama understands” that the man, who it refers to as David, “told the Metropolitan police he was worried that two well-known campaigners may have led him into making false claims”.
“Thomas doesn’t seem to want the BBC to get any of the blame, at least in this article…that goes to the police, the Press and the politicians….those ‘Big Institutions’….hmmm…doen’t he mean big institutions like the BBC as well?”
One of the beauties of BBC editorial integrity is that when space does not allow, what goes in, and what gets removed, is down to an unaccountable, FoI-exempt system deemed to be ‘journalism’.
Some top copper from Norfolk Constabulary on BBC R4 this morning reminding us all that – in his words – ‘1000s of children are being abused across the country today’. Okay. And who is doing all that? Well, Sarah Montague didn’t ask that and the Plod who claimed it didn’t offer it. No doubt it was difficult enough for each of them to negotiate rather large pachyderm planted firmly in the room between them, but actually naming it proved a step too far for all concerned.
Rotherham? Who cares about Rotherham when there are dead, white, Tory politicians to pin it all on? I have no idea whether Leon Brittan was the serial child abuser some claim he was. The police seem to think the allegations made against him were both ‘believable and true’ and have said as much (more than once) to the media.
I’m still struggling to remember the occasions on which Plod were quite so breathlessly eager to get on the telly and pronounce claims of rampant and widespread incidents of child rape amongst our ‘Asian’ community as being similarly ‘believable and true’. Or am I just being unnecessarily picky..?
Obi, Plod is part of the problem, not the solution. Who is going to police the police ? They cannot be trusted.