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He’s too obsessed with “the genocide in Palestine”.
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OK, I suppose we could say that the BBC is simply reporting the news rather than inventing it, but consider this comment from David Cameron: Mr Cameron called on MPs to “answer the call from our allies” and take action against the “woman-raping, Muslim-murdering, medieval monsters” of IS, who he warned were “plotting to kill us and to radicalise our children right now”. Putting aside the faux pas of “our children” (our children?), he states that IS are “Muslim-murdering, medieval monsters”. What, exclusively ‘Muslim-murdering’? Do they have any other victims, like say, Syrian Yazidis, French Jews, European Christians, anybody like that? Are they not just murdering medieval monsters? Why does he need to qualify it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34980504
Did DC issue a written statement with the dash between Muslim and murdering? If you replace it with a comma and remove the comma after murdering too, then the sense changes considerably.
Mischief by the BBC?
Exactly.
I doubt it . Cameron is unable to face reality any more than Obama or his useless Home Secretary Mrs May. Their world view is unreal so they try to impose it on the rest of us. This refusal to link Isis with the core tenets of Islam is absurd. Isis think it is absurd and they should know. Cameron is a lightweight and an intellectual buffoon.
Agreed. Cameron’s ‘nothing to do with Islam’ mantra tells you all you need to know.
I’m not sure it’s through intellectual deficit, though – I reckon he’s just running scared of the Islamic vote here in the UK.
PMs do not operate in a vacuum. They respond to close advisers. His thinking reflect the Conservative party thinking.
He doesn’t get any of the Islamic vote, so what exactly is the fool’s problem?
No, that’s not the reason. The Islamic vote is with Labour, witness the by election in Oldham. Cameron is chasing the petro dollars like his hero BLiar did, and he’s dell us all down the river to get at them.
Cameron is just a greed ridden spiv nothing more.
DaveS, spot on .
Once he admits there is a problem with the number of Muslim immigrants and their growing power the public will demand that he does something about it. He has no idea what possible solution would be acceptable to the EU and the BBC, so it’s easier to deny that there is a problem.
It is simple; integrate or fuck off.
Mr D has just described Laura Kuenssberg as ‘that snide trollop’ for her comment on the 6pm BBC1 News that Cameron ‘will get what he wanted’ ie he will win the vote. Nobody wants to go to war and the implication that Cameron wants to go to war just for the fun of it, is misleading at its kindest.
BBC Editorial Asides Of Integrity are gaining in number, and personal edge.
Pretty soon BBC ‘reports’ across everything, including broadcast, will need to match twitter with a ‘Views my own’ scroll along the bottom.
Which for an outfit purporting to speak for the nation will be interesting.
Maybe Justin Rowlatt could do a story on that?
That woman is a very nasty piece of work, so perfect for the BBC.
The BBC make the excuse that they prefix ISIS with ‘So Called’ because they don’t accept that they are either Islamic nor a state.
Funny that because the IRA weren’t an army and were largely disowned by the Irish Republic, I never heard the BBC refer to them as the ‘So Called IRA’ though.
So double standards at work and because they’re white they are treated in a different manner which is waycist !
Rod may be on the naughty step again.
http://blogs.new.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/anybody-who-uses-the-phrase-daesh-is-terminally-deluded/
Cue ‘Today’ suddenly running a poll with a select group inside W1A or QT bussing in an audience to ‘discuss’ how ‘unhelpful it all is at this time’?
Or.. maybe… the BBC may be sussing that running interference for the terminally deluded and permanently offended is not looking too professionally great, independent editorial intercity-wise.
“double standards at work”
Whatever suits the narrative.
What the BBC and others have also failed to point out is that whilst the IRA insisted they were fighting a ‘war’, when things didn’t go their way they went scurrying for the protection of civil law.
If the IRA were taken at their word, then all their “volunteers” would have been treated as illegal combatants and shot when captured. Just saying.
I have found there is seldom a 38 degree petition the BBC doesn’t like. However…
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/stop-major-record-labels-monopolising-bbc-radio-1-2-airplay
There is of course another way this could be viewed, and one BBC Radio 1 & 2 producers sat in wine bars with record label pluggers may not be keen to confront.
Forgive me that this is not about Bbc bias per se, but what has worried me today are reports – especially on Guide Fawkes – of all the vile emails including graphic images sent to Labour MPs prior to this vote tonight. Now, I am no fan of Labour at all, BUT the majority of their MPs are decent human beings, whether you agree with them or not on their policies and the stances they take. (No political party is squeaky clean, is it?) But this vile behaviour and intimidation by Momentum needs to be nipped in the bud NOW by the Labour leaders. It smacks of the intimidation and atrocious things that the SNP did during the Scottish Referendum – and I can vouch for that. Our local shopkeeper did not dare put to a NO poster because she was afraid a brick would be put through the window! Absolutely outrageous. It just shows that they don’t think, can’t think and are downright thugs!
Ah yes, Soapbox. The ‘new politics’ is great isn’t it.
Is sending a photo of a dead baby to someone a criminal offence ? If so, are the police investigating ?
Only if you are protesting against abortion.
Probably not but calling Tom Daley rude names on Twitter will have you arrested and charged.
Funny old world Harriet Harman has created eh?
Funny how UKIP were hounded for their poster on the victims of child abuse under Labour.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-exploiting-rotherham-grooming-scandal-to-secure-party-s-first-police-chief-9819768.html
I fully understand the point you’re making and by Labour’s recent standards – Corbyn, McDonnell, Livingstone, Fisher etc al – some of the old guard are starting to look pretty decent chaps.
But let’s not forget what the party under Blair was like when it was in government. Remember the likes of Harman telling us x number of times on Today how we were all racist if we didn’t approve of mass immigration/multiculturalism? Remember their regular denigration of the middle classes? Remember their attacks on ‘toffs’? Brown’s attack on ‘that bigoted woman’? Remember their mantra of ‘pushy middle class mothers’? Remember generally their use of Political Correctness to order our way of thinking and anyone who disagreed was a ‘bigot’ e.g. if you disagreed with anything emanating from the gay rights movement?
They were odious and the intimidation and personal attacks they are all facing now from extremists within their own party is simply a logical progression of what they themselves were doing not so long ago. In other words, they are getting a dose of their own medicine – and big time.
Sorry, but I have no sympathy whatsoever for them. In fact the opposite – it’s a bloody joyous feeling of schadenfreude.
Agree totally.
Who would have ever seen this coming?…..Merkel allows unfettered Islamic immigration into Germany, and now ISIS are openly having demonstrations there…
Who could have possibly forecast this?…(sic)..
https://youtu.be/t_5IfxQUY00
Time to bomb Germany again
I tell you, I am shocked, shocked.
At least these may well be those genuine Syrians whom Merkel wanted and they’re taking time off work too, as opposed to those economic migrants from elsewhere who she wants to send back .. er, that can’t be right.
Have you any info on this, when and where it actually took place? I can see it is in Germany from the police uniforms and cars.
Grant…
I sure hope so!
The U.S. and NATO need to be wary of pushing the Russians too far; if they (Russia) wanted to they could detonate a nuclear economic bomb within the American economy, by simply accepting payment for their oil and gas on the energy market – in any other currency other than the U.S. dollar or payment in gold.
For a very detailed explanation, this is worth watching, especially from 9 mins, it is a fascinating analysis of quite how powerful a position the Russians occupy.
I have never even seen this mentioned in passing on Al Beebus or any of our MSM, quite incredible.
The US Dollar is like Tinkerbell: she only exists if all the children believe she does. Since Nixon closed the gold window in 1971, the Dollar is backed by nothing, and its status as the world’s reserve currency is merely an act of faith. It won’t last, nothing does.
He says in the film, that since Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, it is backed by oil not gold – as oil, coal and gas are traded in dollars, these dollars have to be purchased to trade with.
Oil may be traded in Dollars, but I do not see how in any meaningful sense the Dollar is backed by oil, as it used to be backed by gold. A year ago oil was $100 a barrel, today it is $40 a barrel. That does not sound like backing to me. The concept of a world reserve currency being issued by one country is inherently flawed, and only made sense in the context of the post WWII years when the USA had 50% of the world’s economy and wealth. That is no longer the case, and the hegemony of the Dollar cannot persist in the long term.
Opening article taken straight from todays Guardian:
“The Hungarian driver who filmed himself deliberately swerving his lorry at people walking from Calais refugee camps has become an overnight celebrity…”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/02/hungarian-driver-who-filmed-his-lorry-swerving-at-refugees-gets-fan-page
Anyone seeing that video might like to remind themselves that “…people walking from Calais refugee camps…” should actually read “aggressive, balaclaverd young men trying to intimidate a driver and board a truck.”
The current generation of politicians is well aware of the problems that allowing mass immigration of people with irreconcilable differences causes. However, if they ever admit to this, particularly regarding Islam, then they know they will have to be seen to deal with it. That is a fight that they simply do not have the moral courage to engage in. Instead, whilst their indigenous populations are terrorised they strut around the world stage pretending to tackle completely fabricated problems like climate change.
The people they have abandoned are not stupid. Pump out all the propaganda you like; people believe what they see with their own eyes. When that does not match the bullsh*t they are being fed they tend to get angry.
Nail. Head. Good shot sir!
Vote UKIP.
No wonder the BBC love Corbyn – As they did the IRA…
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12279047_1095711613774834_4566610657905501423_n.jpg?oh=ce9ce8ffe315ec43b45363c0974d43ed&oe=56E494FF
Mass Shooting in California. How long before Beeb Lecture and politicising instead of fact checking first?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/as-many-as-20-wounded-in-shooting-in-san-bernardino-california-authorities/ar-AAfWKK3?ocid=spartandhp
Mass Shooting in California. How long before Beeb Lecture and politicising instead of fact checking first?
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/us/as-many-as-20-wounded-in-shooting-in-san-bernardino-california-authorities/ar-AAfWKK3?ocid=spartandhp
Going to stick my neck out a little here, as without research (which the MPs wouldn’t cooperate with anyway, but the Manchester Evening News are carrying a kind of league table on which areas most disapprove of bombing Syria. The interesting part is the number of Asian areas at the top of the list, and the non Asian areas at the bottom.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/areas-opposed-syria-military-action-10536408
I doubt anyone will do any realistic analysis though.
Oldham West is fourth on the list, so Corbyn’s antics (coupled with the inevitable postal vote fraud) might have been enough for Labour to hold the seat tomorrow.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34982048
“Four men from Luton have been arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences” – spot the missing adjective.
“The arrests are not connected to last month’s attacks in Paris” – and there’s me thinking that islam was the connection.
BBC reporting that there is possible substance behind the Russian claims that the Turkish leaders are selling oil on behalf of ISIS.
Corruption ? nah it doesn’t happen in Europe so it doesn’t happen anywhere else either !
If this is true then we certainly won’t be allowed to know about it what with Europe desperate not to offend a Muslim country !
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34982951
Hasn’t the EU just paid off Turkey’s extortion demand too?
Mass shootings by three men in California.
It’s headlines on Sky website.
But not on BBC website. BBC does not want terrorist attacks upstaging and influencing the bombing of Syria debate.
http://news.sky.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news
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Got my first ‘Breaking news’ BBC email of the day.
BBC’s Alan Yentob resigns
BBC Creative Director Alan Yentob resigns in wake of controversy over Kids Company charity
For more details, see the BBC News websithttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34993979#%22
If this doesn’t knock wars in the ME and what Obama says only happens in the USA off all BBC pages, what will?
Off to spend more time with his pension. Sorely missed.
…ish.
http://order-order.com/2015/12/03/alan-yentob-quits/
I havn’t comented on here for a couple of weeks because i just couldnt stand the bias any more. I have been following what everyone on here has to say though!. Anyway,i put jeremy wine on in the van earlier, and straight away i got ” has britain been spared because milliband opposed strikes in syria, jèzza was pretty clear that we had been spared but not france because they had originally struck syria. Thanks for that millibad! We pay for this!ps tonights look east was full of it,and as we speak,”news at ten”is just as bad. Come on russia,save us please.
P.s someone on here recently referred to laura kussenburg as “eye candy”… wow,if thats wye candy, i would suggest one doesnt get out enough.
Well, she thinks she is eye candy
Does she carry change of a shilling?
I like Laura – she does it for me! Well, ‘liked’ would be more accurate, now she is Borg. Assimilated. Such a shame. ;-(
Should have gone to Specsavers.
Beeboids seem very upset the Government win the ‘bomb the bastards’ vote !!
Beeboids seem very upset the Government win the ‘bomb the bastards’ vote tonight!!
And by 397 to 223. So not quite as close as the BBC expected us to believe. Tossers !
BBC TV and Radio giving gratuitous coverage to Stop the War demonstration before and after vote. Wankers!
Cameron wins his bomb vote, now he has to get in line with Obama and the bomb Assad rather than Isis crowd. Hints already, the freedom fighters see Assad as a bigger enemy than Isis. And after all, we want stability in the region.
Basically I cannot trust Cameron.
I did not hear it but Hillary the Pillock has been praised for the greatest speech since the time of Pericles. Churchillian they say.
And woe betide those among Labour who supported the Tories. The de-selectors are coming
To be fair, Hillary Ben’s speech was outstanding. I think we’re looking at the next Labour leader. Watching comrade Corbyn sat behind him was hilarious – he looked like a spare prick at a wedding, and utterly humiliated.
neilw
Things are looking up for the Labour party , he may well become the leader of the ‘liebour’ party.
But then I thought the same when Michael Foot did a similar speech following the invasion of the Falkland Islands. Soon after he went back to ‘default state’.
In my opinion , most of the politicians in our parliament , right and left, are ‘bunch’ of actors, completely out of touch with the British working public.
Opportunist loony leftist son of loony leftist replaces loony leftist. Not a great deal to write home about
>In my opinion , most of the politicians in our parliament , right and left, are ‘bunch’ of actors, completely out of touch with the British working public.<
I thought the same as Benn was gesticulating round the Commons as he spoke. Granted it was a good speech, but I think there was a fair bit of acting going on.
As for next leader? I'm not so sure, he must get enough of the membership votes (the £3-ers if you like) to ensure success and this speech may have done for him in that respect.
I found him ridiculous, waving his arms around and jabbing his finger. He had the weird voice reminiscent of a 1930’s new reel combined with the wild gesticulations of Hitler.
I have just heard Laura K remind viewers how David Cameron was humiliated when the vote in the last parliament was held re bombing Syria. As I remember it Ed Miliband prior to the debate agreed privately to support the government and then switched to telling his party to vote against purely for his own political gain. I wonder how many deaths in Syria are as a direct result of his politicking.
I agree that Miliband’s behaviour was totally unprincipled, but the last time Cameron wanted to provide air support for ISIS while this time he wants to provide air support against ISIS. He’s changed sides on the bombing, but the BBC oppose him either way because he’s a Tory (nominally). Of course he still wants Assad to lose because the Sunnis must come out on top.
Deborah, the BBC keep referring to that vote as one about bombing Syria. It was nothing of the sort.
The vote in Parliament that Cameron thought he had Miliband’s agreement on was ‘on the principal of taking action against Assad’s bombing of his own people’. What that action would actually be, Cameron had agreed would be the subject of a further debate in parliament and a second vote.
It was suggested that that action was not bombing, but the imposition of a ‘no fly zone’ to stop Assad barrel bombing his people and gassing them.
That no fly zone was never imposed as a result of Miliband’s support for Assad. He has blood on his hands
And once again the BBC is being dishonest.
If anyone fancies a late night comedy show just go on twitter #SyriaVote – apparently those 650 suits aren’t representative of the 65 million population. and just 397 have decided the fate of the country. Hmmmm, I wonder what part of the phrase “representative democracy” they are having difficulty understanding?
One goon even states that he hasn’t seen one tweet in favour of air strikes. Honestly, these clowns actually think that Twitter is representative of the country, as opposed to what we know it really is – a far-left froth bath.
Al beeb busily talking down our air force tonight and pointing the finger at those Liebour MPs who had the courage of their own convictions and voted with the Government. A question from one of Al Beeb’s most outstanding political analysts Emily Maitlis: has Jeremy Corbyn strengthened his own position in the Liebour Party as a result of this vote (I paraphrase)? Er, the answer to that would be “NO”. There will of course be a huge ruckus as “Momentum” set to work on those hardy souls who gave them the two fingers….
Emily now seemingly having a problem processing the fact that DC “has a mandate” to bomb Syria…strangely she seems to be wearing something that looks like a Pierre Cardin knockoff of a pilots uniform…
FFS – Al Beeb even post a link to an SNP petition against air strikes. THAT is truly disgusting bias.
FFS
How about this link to a more worthwhile petition?…………..
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/end-the-bbc-licence-fee
I have to say that this comment about the stop the war socialist worker demo in Manchester tonight made me laugh:
Socialist Workers (oxymoron) placards again,is this their main source of income? Anyway,whats it to do with them?
My opinion,for what it’s worth. The whole scenario about IS and refugees is like a big budget science fiction /horror film. It is as though millions of aliens from outer space have landed and taken on a roughly humanoid form. Some have tried to co exist with the indigenous population of Planet Earth whilst others have decided to do battle with us. The flying saucers which have been observed for many years are,in fact,flying mosques and that is why they seem to appear from nowhere overnight. They have strange barbarous ways including relegating their female form to minions.Their cruelty knows no bounds as we have all seen. The leaders of Planet Earth don’t seem to have much idea how to deal with them as it is impossible to reason with creatures who will not surrender and look forward to their own deaths.
WHERE ARE YOU WILL SMITH?
‘Socialist Workers (oxymoron)’ – An excellent description of those parasites !
How the devil do the earn a living ?
The liberal twatterati and facebook brigade are out in force protesting about the decision to bomb “innocent Syrian children.” Their memories are either short, selective or just plain non-existent… a few weeks ago an ISIS organised rabble butchered plenty of Parisian innocents. Employing a tactic that has been used in warfare for a century now is just too barbaric.
Perhaps if the Syrian fighting age men weren’t leaving Syria in their droves as “refugees” we wouldn’t have to bomb the place.
BBC bigging up Benn as they realise that Corbyn’s crushing defeat is another nail in his coffin. Looks like Benn is the BBC’s choice for next leader. The BBC’s shamelessness is so transparent it is laughable.
You could never accuse the BBC of subtlety.
In reporting yesterday’s debate and the RAF action overnight, the BBC keeps calling IS “militant”. They just hate the T word ! – no matter how often IS propounds its intention to create terror.
I wonder if the BBC would settle for “fascist” – the term used by Benn in the debate ? I suppose they would have to check this out with their mates in the SWP and Stop the War Coalition, who would probably reply that UKIP, the Tories and a lot of Labour MPs are the real fascists, not IS.
John, as you point out, these semantic cloaks are very important to Al Beeb. Another formulation used frequently is “IS fighters”, as per yesterday : “when the bombing begins in Raqqa the IS fighters will simply move out of the city”. Lyse Doucet this am was already slagging off the RAF raids yesterday on IS-held oil fields (she may have missed the Corbynistas banging on about cutting off IS funding). Laura Keunssberg flags our future: “Pass one political test, another immediately follows.” It sure does when Al Beeb sets the exams, and just to be especially helpful, this morning Al Beeb Pravda has as its first item under the airstrikes headline a “how did your MP vote” list- not of course that anyone expects that the Liebour “defectors” will be targeted for de-selection, for indeed Chairman Corbyn has decreed otherwise.
Watched News at 10 on ITV last night.
It had a pretty good report from Syria where the reporter analysed the effect of bombing. To summarise. it depends who on the ground is following it up. If its the Iraqi army then it’s hardly worth it, if it is the Syrian Kurds, definitely.
Is it any wonder the BBC are getting jumpy at the recent growth in audience for the ITV 10 o’clock news.
Perhaps people are starting to vote with the channel control.
It may also have something to do with their coverage of migrants and probably soon the EU leave / stay.
I bet the EU “debate” will be presented as “risks” of leaving and “benefits” of staying, Most humans are risk averse and like benefits so there is no way the BBC will present the arguments as risks of staying and benefits of leaving!
Great post, Mallard. I don’t often comment but I’m one of the many readers and uptickers who come here for a bit of sanity (not that I go all the way with some of the more radical opinions, but I do believe in that old-fashioned notion of free speech in a free country).
I thought exactly the same during John Irvine’s report from Syria for ITN. It was measured and informative, and I learnt more about what the Syrian Kurds were doing, and stood for, than I had for months from any other news source.
I really do hope the BBC’s 6 and 10 O’clock News viewing share is plummeting. I have only watched ITN for some years now for all the reasons this site flags up. The good news is that more and more people are becoming aware of the BBC’s unsettling bias: it simply doesn’t reflect their views and the conversations going on around them, and the most unlikely people will mention it as a matter of course.
Excellent point too about the use of biased language in the EU debate. The contortion of language is rife and once you notice it, you hear it continuously. I suspect Neuro- Linguistic Programming plays a big part in their training courses.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34991855
Look at the names… a clue as to their motives perhaps?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34991855
And the whole leftie media were reporting this story with the opening words ‘White gunmen…’ Unreal!
Can you imagine the furore if they’d incorrectly reported it as ‘black’ gunmen? They’d be banging on about the injustice of it more than the actual attack itself.
Indeed. Notice, too, how the story is quietly slipping down the website page… the BBC will be using the Syria vote as a smokescreen.
Alex, true. The BBC do not want us to know about this one !
Names as American as apple pie…
Ah, but… American born. Crucial difference. Well, to the BBC, at least.
Not sure they are actually helping sell the notion of migrant resettlement too well, as Ma & Pa seem to have raised junior the old way.
As to the ‘just another day in the USA’ line, if that is to homage POTUS’ howler in France… classy, BBC, classy.
‘The attack took place at an office event on Wednesday.’
What… BBC Editorial Guidelines mean they can’t even dare utter the word ”Winterval’ lest an unfortunate connection gets made?
We’ll just have to rely on other sources on what set Farook off on one in what may or may not be a terrorist event… in combats, with an armoury.
I wonder if he shouted ‘Happy holidays’ or some other greeting?
I love the use of the word “event “. The BBC really are disgusting.
What was it ? A business seminar ?
The report carefully does not say that they were both U.S. born.
I suspect that this, like the Fort Hood massacre, will be described as an instance of ‘workplace violence’. The BBC may be feeling a bit deflated over this ‘event’. Initial reports described a shooting incident at a centre for people with learning disabilities – one can imagine BBC hacks salivating at the prospect of White Far Right extremists gunning down disabled people (“first they came for the abortionists, then they came for the disabled…”).
Ian, a bad day for the BBC. The vote and this . My heart bleeds for them !
Funny how the BBC cannot bring itself to admit this bit of info…
A man who identified himself as Farook’s father told The New York Daily News his son worked as a health technician inspecting restaurants and hotels.
“I haven’t heard anything. He worked in a county office,” he said. “He’s married and has a kid. We’re estranged because my wife got the divorce, and they are together. She doesn’t want to see me.”
He added that he had not seen his son for some time.
“He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back. He’s Muslim.”
And yet they do not know what the motivation was? The only thing we are missing from reports is a witness hearing him shout Allah Huackbar.
BBC Headline ” Muslim shooters responsible for massacre of white innocents “. Er…. or maybe not. Of course, the BBC will be saying this is not a terrorist attack and not linked to Islam. And they may be right . I have no evidence to the contrary.
It is worth comparing the BBC website report with Sky News website. The latter far superior purely in journalistic terms. Leaving aside the bias, the BBC are simply very unprofessional and poor at their highly paid jobs.
Just had a look at the Sky report Grant, in the very first line are the words “Christmas Party”
http://news.sky.com/story/1598721/california-massacre-couple-named-14-dead
The National Socialist party of Nazi Germany weren’t keen on Christmas and had a green fetish too, I think it’s high time the BBC dropped the “British” part because there’s nothing British about them.
And fourteen people have lost their lives, at least have the decency to report the circumstances accurately BBC.
Contemptible.
Oldspeaker, Quite agree. One of the killers left the party “angry”. I hope the BBC will , fearlessly, investigate why he was angry. I get angry with the BBC every day but I don’t put on army uniform , get my weapons and go and kill Beeboids. I must try and put that idea out of my head !
I don’t recall seeing the BBC print a list of how MPs voted before:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34987921
Although this information is freely available, is this the BBC blatantly leading the Stop the War coalition to MPs’ doors?
The worthless vile scum (StW and BBC).
Steve, that is a good point. I do not recall the BBC ever publishing MP voting lists. You are probably right that it is to help “Stop the War ” get their revenge. The BBC simply do not believe in democracy. They would have been perfectly at home in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia.
Yes, they have in the past and so do the major newspapers. IIRC, the information is available these days via the internet from Parliament.
SNP no open vote – all ordered by comrade Salmond to vote no. Any dissent off to the gulag.
It wouldn’t occur to any of them to dissent. They all have to be told the correct thinking.
For a Senior BBC Editor, Laura Kuenssberg is a bit part-time! Or is she merely hogging all the TV limelight, leaving Norman Smith to do the radio?
Based solely on looks, and it is a close call, I would put Laura on the radio and Norm on the TV.
Shallow I know.
^ ^ ^ LOL {as the Yoof doth sa!}
(Have to admit, that wicked thought had passed through my mind plus the one ‘Perhaps she has to take lots of time off “Cos she’s a woman innit. Gotta fetch kids from school and like cook dinna ya know” ‘)
Has Obama uttered the world leader mantra that the St Bernardino shootings ‘have nothing to do with Islam’ yet?
Those heard to say on BBC phones in’s and such the off common mentioned sentence ‘I work with Mislem’s and get on really well with them….’ should take a long hard look at this story.
Obama will only mention the gun control aspect of this, not the religious terrorist aspect .
He may even manage ‘thoughts and prayers’, but as a US paper just mocked Republicans doing this he might just not.
Funny how after every Islamic terrorist atrocity, there are people come forward who knew the terrorists and are shocked that such nice, kind people would do such a thing.
I have studied Islam, and when you know about Taqiyya, the duty of moslems living in non-moslem lands, to deceive the non-believers, it all makes sense. Of course they seem nice. It is how they lull us all into a false sense of security, whilst they plot our deaths.
So long as Taqiya exists, I cannot trust ANY moslem.
They never join the dots – i.e. it could just as easily be those ‘nice muslims’ that the BBC is always promoting. Lovely nice muslims until they go full islam on their neighbours.
As has been pointed out already on this blog, ANOTHER ‘workplace violence’ massacre perpetrated in the US ……and ,what a coincidence , one of the dead suspects has been identified as a devout M….m.
But don’t worry folks ,it’s NTDWI because Obola ,the BBC, and All the Liberal-Left Media are conflating this with the call for GUN CONTROL.
If we could only take those pesky weapons away from those difficult NRA supporters , then none of this would happen!!
They really DO think we are stupid, don’t they?????
The mass-shooting couple ‘recently married in Saudi Arabia’
It can’t be islam so it must be Pulp Fiction ‘Stay cool honeybun’
“Crazily mild!”
That’s BBC weatherman Alex Deakin’s ordinarily hyperbolic take on the weather in the south of Britain. Daytime temperatures of 12 or 13 seem to bring out in him superlatively run of the mill exclamations. Could it be the BBC office culture of global warming alarmism? One wonders where he goes for his summer holidays and can’t help but ponder as the Deakin family arrive on some sunny shore what facile ejaculation our Alex habitually makes on his postcards home to descrbe the three-out-of-five-star resort…. ‘mentally normal’…. ‘insanely commonplace’….?
Toady programme this morning, 8.25, Toenails Robinson interviewing a young Syrian refugee girl now resident in Coventry for some years.
She showed some of the attributes of the feeble efforts of another of Al Beeb’s favourite protest groups, our teachers. If there was one ‘like’ in her less than a minute’s interview there were 10+. Poor teaching and the fostering of ghetto slang are the culprits.
And Leftoids want to give the vote to 16 year olds!
Beeb & MPs going gaga over Hillary Benn’s speech last night. I heard chunks of it. I was not that impressed, oratory-wise. His old man would be spinning in his grave. Not just on policy but “Here, listen to this recording I made of you Hillary. You could have paced that bit much better. That phrase jarred. You expressed that well but paused too long for effect.”
The BBC promoting the next Great Leader as a world class spokesman?
But how can they promote Benn when he voted for the motion ? Have Beeboids no principles ?
Ah, the fragrant Lyse Doucet! I wonder if it has ever occurred to her, or her handlers, that the deliberately de-repressed moil of passion and partisanship, of narcissism and intellectual vanity which she parades so convincingly in her reporting, is the very same powder-trail of mania and abandonment that is observed time after time in the criminally disturbed, the personally disordered, the psychopathically murderous individuals that we rightly fear on our streets and in our bedrooms?
Daily she dances on the edge of an abyss – the pornography of unreason is a valuable asset to the BBC in its flight from any kind of sane representation of our nation’s core culture. They should beware lest she finally go over that edge – she will at that point need to be ‘deniable’.
It’s all The Sainted Margaret’s fault. She brought in care in the community, didn’t she!
Stuart , Wow ! Great post. “pornography of unreason “. Superb .
Peter, LOL !
She’s not of this nation so therefore has no loyalty to it.
Also a face like a Picasso and speaks like a cassette player low on battery.
Useless as a broadcaster, even more so as a human being.
This line is, in my humble opinion, pure genius:
‘Also a face like a Picasso and speaks like a cassette player low on battery.’
Yes, this site is more entertaining than anything on the BBC
You have nailed her. I expect she is the sort of person whose car boot is full of a load of dead squirrels. She looks the type.
Anyone notice on Al-Beeb’s airstrikes coverage the ‘representative panel’ of undecideds from somewhere ‘up North.
Was anyone there over the age of about 45? I couldn’t help but notice the over-representation of certain religious minorities. And they ‘totally randomly’ selected someone who actually said the words ‘love and peace’, straight out of San Francisco 1967 man.
And guess what, they were ‘split down the middle, just like the public’ according to Mark Easton.
Absolute 100% deliberate bias from beginning to end.
And now. We’re ‘going to war’ . So much more punchy than ‘making a modest contribution to a coalition acting with the backing of a UN resolution’.
Never mind ‘Stop the War’, I want to ‘Stop Al-Beeb’
We have been at war since 2001. That war was legally sanctioned by the UN and NATO and we could have won it, had we remained focused on the outcome. We foolishly opened up a new front in that war in Iraq in 2003 which had a severely detrimental effect on that war, losing us an advantage, splitting our resources and consequently handing the people of Iraq many reasons to turn to terrorism against their fellow moslems and create a vicious civil war, which continues to this day, and which has been exploited to great effect by what is now called ISIS.
We are not starting a new war here. We are merely chasing the same old enemy into areas it now controls in Syria.
If people really believe that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, surely they will be glad we are trying to rid the Islamic world of ISIS. Syrians, Iraqis and all Muslims in the UK should be thanking us, not condemning.
Or does their criticism reveal their true beliefs? That ISIS really is Islamic? Very, VERY Islamic indeed?
If it’s nothing to with Islam, what religion should we call it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34973207
The BBC are proud supporters of the ‘it’s always someone else’s fault’ society.
FFS if you climb on top of a train and grab the overhead conductor, what do you expect?
It’s the same principle as that frigging underdog and ‘have you had an accident that wasn’t your fault?’ Unfortunately the BBC only favour underdogs, minorities, muslims, socialists, the something-for-nothing society and every other hard-done-by soul the world throws up.
I read it as a grim warning to kids playing on the railway line what can happen to them. I don’t see where it blames anyone else.
Can I just remind the BBC that a very serious terrorist attack has occurred in San Bernardino, USA.
Many innocent people were killed and injured.
The names of the terrorists were Syed Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik.
Thought I’d better let the BBC know in case they were too busy investigating serious news like a bit of bullying in the Tory Party.
Surely it was just an example of workplace violence? The sort of thing that “happens everyday”? Involving people born in the USA. Involving people born in the USA? Involving people born in the UK. Did we mention he was born in the USA?
Just like Bruce Springsteen !
Here is the Beebs report on San Bernardino shootings, as usual there seems to be key pieces of information missing from the report – apparently he was very religious according to other media sources.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34991855
The BBC are so stupid that they think that they have a Worldwide monopoly on news and that no-one gets news from any other source. They are Emperors unaware that they have no clothes. Pathetic.
#oolooksquirrel!
Likely there was not enough time, or space, or something, for US news. Which is odd, as it usually boots all else off the BBC homepage.
Rod Liddle better not write something tart, as the BBC will need to set up a full ‘not helpful’ team to deal with such phobic thoughts.
Meanwhile Tell Mama is en route to the Vine show to wail about the reaction to this as a reaction to Paris as a reaction to… 7/7….
This may not, as such, fly much longer as a default, as the communities living in fear of things that actually happen are more numerous and justified than those offended by poorly decorated charcuterie.
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Note a couple of people before me have mentioned Hilary Benns speech yesterday.
I`ll not be listening-but if people above rated it, then I `m OK with that.
My problem is that the three random bits from the debate that I heard came from Salmond, Lucas and Benn…oh, a a soundbite or two from Beckett and some Tory called Lewis.
If Benn is The New Statesman”…the “Orator *unt” of this generation?…then we`re in trouble.
An utter milksop, who`s not fit to search for his papas spats…did moan about him in my previous Lefty incarnation to his dad(at Tolpuddle), who gnomically said that “blood is thicker than water”.
No-Benns a no-hoper…but compared to Corbyn, he`ll be a giant in the eyes of the putrid Left-BBC and Guardian particularly like their dynasties don` they?
None of that Tebbit, Thatcher meritocratic stuff eh?…far better to be born to rule in virtue, whilst sneering at the Royal family for doing exactly the same.
Labour-Arabic for hypocrite in need of a dotted line around its neck…plenty salmon pink, lavender mauve and sky blue workshop overalls to go with their peachy skins…I can ululate a rainbow Ahmed!
He’s not against inherited wealth either, he and his siblings pocketed nearly £2m each recently thanks to some creative work from the family accountant, and oh his bro’ has taken on the old family title to boot.
“I feel your pain brother”, should be on the old mans tombstone bless him.
Julian Lewis? He used to be my MP once. I saw him in the house of commons with my union representative hat on. In due course I had a letter from him concerning a completely different matter to the one I had seen him about.
Alan Yentob steps down as BBC creative director!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34993979
The greedy one has gone. Lets wait to see his remuneration package.
It is a funny sort of resignation, where you stay on making programmes for the BBC after resigning
Geyza, but he will take a massive pay cut. LOL ! What a bunch of wankers !
‘a funny sort of resignation’
Unique, even.
Well, other than at the BBC.
Alan Yentob steps down as BBC creative director!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34993979
The greedy one has gone! Lets wait to see his remuneration package.
But has he gone completely – or merely stepped down from his post as Creative Director ? – while staying at the BBC to produce or present individual programmes.
John, I’m afraid you are right – he still hangs on – like a bad smell.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/12030859/Alan-Yentob-steps-down-as-BBC-executive.html
There would appear to be some confusion around this situation as the BBC has said that the Creative Director position will be axed.
So, did he actually resign or was the role made redundant?
Did he receive a severance package?
Knowing the bBBC’s care with spending OUR money, he’s probably on some stupendous contract guaranteed to pay out an eye-watering redundancy package, not to mention some massive pension pot as well.
Because he’s worth it.
Rob, LOL !
Cant have too many versions
http://order-order.com/2015/12/03/alan-yentob-quits/
As I just proved, above, sorry!
But as this is a site about the BBC, repeats are a worthy metaphor.
2Xplus funny comrade
On Amazon Prime, my catch-up of choice, it appears that every single ad break is half a dozen TVCs with a wan, stoned nymphette either buck-naked, riding a piano, snogging a fellow minor, getting raped or wafting about a field in cause of selling clearly smelly ladies, or their poor partners the notion of whatever dash-of-something plus meths pong is ‘by’ someone, from Marc Jacobs to a Beckham, will get them laid at Xmas.
Which is fine. For me a leg of Serrano from Lidl, a box of salt-dusted butterscotch truffles from Aldi, a decent single malt and I am good to go.
However, Eau de Botney is a real thought the enterprising BBC commercial wing may consider if they don’t hang about.
‘Because he’s worth i…. about £6 million’
Beckham (groan) ! I shall leave the country if this squeaky voiced, stupid hairstyle, tattoo sporting, ambassador for everything from cheap scent to underpants and whisky – all courtesy of Simon Fuller, …… gets a knighthood. (He wasn’t even that good at football ! – I know my stuff by the way, am the daughter of an old football manager)
Good riddance to bad rubbish !