Some philosophy for you to ponder….
If a person openly subscribes to a particular ideology but refrains from openly stating his or her beliefs that arise from that ideology, beliefs that are abhorrent to the society they live in, is that person ‘acceptable’ as long as they stay silent when, in comparison, someone who voices their beliefs is vilified and demonised?
Tyson Fury is a born again Christian, his beliefs about homosexuality stem from that…and yet when you look at the reports about the furore surrounding his comments this is not mentioned. Why not?
Here’s the Guardian’s Michael White, actually defending Trump and Fury’s right to say such things but blames Fury’s thoughts on him being punchdrunk and a muddle-headed chump…..liberal smug superiority on open display….
At the time I didn’t know what the problem was, though I rapidly found out. He’s mouthy and opinionated in an ugly and stupid way: wrongheaded views about homosexuality, abortion and paedophilia all mixed up inside a brain that, even for such an accomplished slugger, must have been punched more than is good for it. That’s boxing for you.
Distaste rapidly evolved into controversy and our old media standby “fury” (four-letter words are always handy for headlines) because the chump of a champ turned out to have been included in the shortlist of 12 for BBC sports personality of the year.
No mention that Fury is a Christian. The BBC are also rather circumspect on this. Why? Could it possibly be that mentioning religion would open up a whole can of worms when the favoured religion prescribes death, by stoning or throwing off a mountain for homosexuals?
If people have these beliefs but don’t openly admit them should they too be treated like Fury? The police after all ban BNP members from joining even if they wouldn’t allow their beliefs to influence their work. No outrage about that from the selectively outraged of Notting Hill.
No similar outrage when Geert Wilders was banned from coming to the UK, or Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller, and they don’t espouse violence or religious apartheid…in fact they fight against such beliefs…and yet people were happy to see them banned.
Now there is a petition to have Trump banned from the UK…bizarre and illogical to ban someone because of their desire to ban someone.
The BBC loves it and has practically covered the frontpage wiith Trump stories….but note there are few if any voices in defence of Trump in the BBC reports….they are very one-sided. Note the entire lack of challenge to the notion of a ban, no sign that there is any hypocrisy or something amiss with such an idea.
The BBC tells us…
Labour’s Tulip Siddiq, MP for Hampstead and Kilburn, also called for Mr Trump to be banned from the UK after he claimed that parts of London were “so radicalised” that police were “afraid for their own lives”.
“I would say to him you are not welcome in our country in the same way that you want to ban people like me going into your country,” Ms Siddiq told BBC Radio London.
“I don’t think we need someone poisonous like Donald Trump in our capital city that we are so proud to live in, and in our country.”
Why doesn’t the BBC ask Mr Siddiq what his views are on homosexuals, women, Jews and apostates…and ‘unbelievers’? Or why not ask Mo Farrah, a sporting Muslim ‘role model’, his views?
Note the bit about the police being afraid to go to parts of London….why doesn’t the BBC check that out…both LBC and Breitbart have [Thanks to GB123 in the comments]…and come back with the answer that in many respects this is a true picture….
Mr. Trump’s comments were derided by the “impartial” British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) as well as London’s part-time mayor Boris Johnson, and Prime Minister David Cameron. He said in a speech this week that parts of London are “so radicalised the police are afraid for their lives”.
But a Metropolitan Police source has spoken out against the claims made by the British political establishment, telling Breitbart London that “Islamification” is not new, and that it is not just London that has a problem
One close-protection security expert told Breitbart London earlier today: “You have to be more vigilant in some areas than others due to demographics and radicalisation. Absolutely, without question. Anybody that states otherwise would be burying their head in the sand and ignoring the reality”.
Why is the BBC so keen to cover up the very real problems the police face in such areas…just as they do iin France?
“What if we went to the suburbs?” Obertone replies: “I do not recommend this. Not even we French dare go there anymore. But nobody talks about this in public, of course. Nor do those who claim, ‘long live multiculturalism,’ and ‘Paris is wonderful!’ dare enter the suburbs.”
No-go zones are Muslim-dominated neighborhoods that are largely off limits to non-Muslims due to a variety of factors, including the lawlessness and insecurity that pervades a great number of these areas. Host-country authorities have effectively lost control over many no-go zones and are often unable or unwilling to provide even basic public aid, such as police, fire fighting and ambulance services, out of fear of being attacked by Muslim youth.
Muslim enclaves in European cities are also breeding grounds for Islamic radicalism and pose a significant threat to Western security.
Europe’s no-go zones are the by-product of decades of multicultural policies that have encouraged Muslim immigrants to create parallel societies and remain segregated from — rather than become integrated into — their European host nations.
The problem of no-go zones is well documented.
And then there are the ‘cultural’ no go zones…where the police dare not tackle crimes that arise from certain cultures for fear of being called racist as in Rochdale, Rotherham, Derby…you name the town….and of course as shown here.
Interesting what the BBC misses out of their report…here’s the Telegraph…
Sir Thomas Winsor, HM Chief Inspector of Constabulary, said the report was one of the most important ever produced by the organisation.
“Cultural traditions and sensitivities deserve and should always be given due respect,” he said.
“But where they operate to imprison vulnerable people behind barriers of fear and the threat of reality of violence, and facilitate or intensify crimes committed against them, such barriers must be broken.
“They deserve no respect at all”
Here’s the BBC…
HM Chief Inspector of Constabulary Sir Thomas Winsor added: “Cultural traditions and sensitivities deserve and should always be given due respect.
“But where they operate to imprison vulnerable people behind barriers of fear and the threat or reality of violence, and facilitate or intensify crimes committed against them, such barriers must be broken.”
Why is the comment that cultural traditions that are a threat or intimidate “deserve no respect at all” missing?
Ah look the BBC pay lip service to Fury’s beliefs…listen to the BBC presenter studiously ignoring Fury’s comments on religion…which are the bulk of the ‘interview’….
Fury cites Bible when questioned over SPOTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cllVTFkIvOw
If he’d cited the Koran?
I hope Tyson Fury plays his traveller credentials for all they are worth. The BBC should be reporting what he says and let the public decide what they think of his views. It is certainly not the BBC’s place to try and influence what people think. That is the kind of state broadcaster we have nowadays and the reason why it must be overhauled.
The BBC is trumpeting the e-petition to ban Donald Trump (ie ban free speech) passing 200,000 but I have not seen mention of the e-petition calling for the axing of the BBC having passed 400,000.
Tyson Fury must really be upset that the Guardian and the BBC loathe him. I doubt he is even interested enough to comment on it. I can’t imagine any offended liberal having the nerve to insult him to his face.
As for Trump. Please please ban him Mrs May and then watch and wait for the American reaction. If they cared enough about this silly little island ( in their view ) that is.
In the US free speech means exactly that and is protected by the Constitution. Here it now means anything the Twitterers and the Guardianistas don’t find offensive.
I tend towards both Donald Trump and Tyson Fury but I suppose my opinion counts for nothing with the swivel eyed, frothing collectivists, the usual muslim whingers and all the useful idiots who must have signed the petitions against these gentlemen. I doubt I am alone in concluding there is more that is correct in what they say than is wrong.
I have found Trump and particularly Fury like a breath of fresh air. For they both dont give a shit about what the Islamic Broadcasting Corporation think.
Fury in particular must really rankle these bastards as not only does he tell the truth as he sees it, he is also sincere about his beliefs instead of jumping onto the IBC mealy mouthed, right on, insincere, PC bandwagon unlike many celebrities who have more than half an eye on their commercial contracts.
Fury doesnt play their game. Albeit a game which if left unchecked will have very serious consequences for our Judeo/Christian society in the future. Unfortunately it is this society which gave these worms the freedoms to eat away at the very society which nourishes them (more like a disease methinks)
The IBC are doing their best to close him down currently using faux outrage I guess the next stage will be mockery – cue The
Now Show and other unfunny rubbish. I suppose the tactic will be to to moronise him – I bet the Danish Poison dwarf is dissapointed she isnt on prime time as much as she was – as I am sure she would love to get her poisoned PC dagger stuck into Tyson.
I do hope they do not succeed in bringing him down as he certainly shows real heart. I also suspect that many of the public who would normally just ignore these mini media storms probably have a sneaking regard for this bloke who when he goes to work puts everything on the line unlike Cohen, Yentob, Hall, Fairhead, and all their little familiars and imps. Who all get paid quite a lot for not a lot, and seem relish sitting on walls throwing stones at those they percieve to be below them.
I Dont think they would be quite so brave if the wall which they built collapsed and they would have to mix it with the rest of us – I dont think Allah would help them either !!!!!!!
What they (the liberal Left) don’t like is contrary opinion. Because if you do disgaree there is something “wrong” with you. These people surely are the descendants of those who organised and followed witch hunts in 17th century Britain.
Peculiarly the petition to ban Trump from Britain is because he wants to ban Muslims to going to the USA.
The irony seems to escape the hundreds of thousands who are signing the online petition.
Oddly the the BBC is not trumpeting (TRUMPeting?) the online petition to ban Tyson Fury from the boring SPOTHY which is causing the beeb embarrassment and headache at the minute. After all he’s from Romany stock and they mustn’t “dis” his culture. You’ve got to laugh.
What goes around comes around. As the disgusting Labour Party is finding these days.
Geert Wilders was banned from the UK because he’s a complete idiot.
Yet Barack Obama got to BBQ with ‘Nothing to do with’ Dave in the Rose Garden.
Funny old world.
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On another thread I paid compliments to you, apparently a mistake.
Wilders is a genuine patriot, who escaped the tyranny of EU “education” by thinking for himself.
Which thinking freed him, as it did me, from the one world view.
The BBC supports Marxism, that version of the truth that killed over one hundred million people in seventy years of the twentieth century.
The BBC also reveres Islam, a stone age cult based on total nonsense, which has killed between two hundred million and eight hundred million people during its existence.
These are the two most evil concepts in both theory and practice, in recorded history: the BBC supports not one, but both of them.
Therefore the BBC is the most morally debased organisation in history, or at least one of the most morally debased.
The BBC staff do this with pride because they are the realisation in fact of Orwellian fiction, straight out of 1984.
Total, utter filth and sewerage, straight out of the lowest circle of the Dantean inferno.
The BBC/”Labour” moral inversion is such that one individual in the UK who places the flag of St George on his roof outranks Mohammed, Marx, Lenin and all the other historical liars and mass murderers in the BBC evility tradition.
I am proud to contribute, in some small way, to the dissolution of this parasitic, narcissistic, counter-paradigm of nobility and honesty
Great post BBC delanda est.