David Dimbleby presents this week’s show from Stratford-upon-Avon. Panellists include Conservative MP for Putney, Roehampton and Southfields; Justine Greening, businessman and former Dragon Theo Paphitis, broadcaster June Sarpong, Labour MP for Wigan Lisa Nandy and SNP MP for somewhere in Scotland, presumably; John Nicolson.
Local Conservative MP Nadhim Zahawi won’t be making an appearance for reasons unknown.
Kick off tomorrow (Thursday) at 22.45
So, 1 conservative Vs. 4 Socialists ( 5, if you include Dimblepr@! ).
The area is quite strongly Conservative, with UKIP leanings.
The bus companies from Tower Hamlets et al will be fully booked on Thursday.
Maybe it’s because liblabcon and the miscellaneous parties like the greens all want to stay in.
Only UKIP has the nation’s best interests at heart.
I think on average it is 4 against 1 regarding the EU.
That will be the bbc’s excuse for the pro EU bias every qt.
No doubt there will be an question fom the audience on the forthcoming EU referendum.This week it is probable that all panel members will speak in favour of staying in the EU. I would like to be wrong.
It might be worth keeping note of the panellist views on the EU each week. There is a developing but expectedly biased pattern emerging.
I may be wrong but as I recall, three weeks ago all five panellists were in favour of remain in EU -although a supposedly a Tory EU skeptic, Theresa Villiers was under Camerons curfew but spoke only of ‘Cameron getting a good deal’, two weeks ago 3 panellists to remain v two in favour of leaving the EU, last week four panellist to remain v one in favour of out (Farage), this week it looks like it may well be another clean sweep of all five panellists who will be exhorting the argument to remain.
I make that 17 panellists speaking in favour of remain in EU versus 3 panellists in favour of leave EU. I am happy to proven wrong on this but I don’t think I am.
BBC at its balanced and impartial best. Brainwashing Britain
BTW Any Questions (radio) follows a similar pattern though not quite as bad.
Have you ever made the mistake of listening to Any Questions?
IMHO the baying of the leftie audience is even worse – ably abetted by the other Dimblepr@.
Yes Number 7, you are quite right. It is infuriating. I like to listen to the anti British Beeb.
Have you ever heard of the quote
‘ keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.’ … The Godfather:
I want to know what the enemy is up to.
Fair play wronged.
I have to admit I limit my usage of the Beeb – It restricts the profits of Curry’s et al.
( Other suppliers of replacement TV/Radio devices are available. )
🙂
The reason for panel bias is because besides Ukip, none Al Beeb schooled journalists and business men and women (and those who are confused) who are not part of the Gravy train, all our political parties benefit from the EU. We are just a cross in the box to them. If anyone really had the peoples of our great nations interests at heart, they would be fighting for our sovereignty, stopping immigration and giving British jobs to British workers. But they aren’t. They lie. They misinform. They say that Birmingham on a Saturday night is as bad as Cologne was on new years Eve. They call us racist and other simpleton but socially damaging labels. They bring laws in to prevent criticism of things we don’t agree with and never asked for. They take away our freedoms for things we never asked for but what they want. How have these people got our best interests at heart? And all the while being supported and colluded with by our supposed impartial national broadcaster.
The overwhelming majority of people in the UK just want an easy life where they can look after their loved ones. We have had that luxury since the dawn of man. Elites have put in the taxs and laws and barriers that we need to pay for and abide by. The EU has given us nothing but record levels of debt and forced damaging and potentially irreversible social changes on us.
The question is how much do those who want the easy life actually care about the damage being done? If the answer is not enough then we are going to be staying on the elite express grave train for a little while longer
They have that nutty conspiracy theorist June Sarpong on who is also part of the BSE campaign. That should be fun, given her place co-presenting conspiracy theories with Jesse Ventura.
Question Time?
From me this time .
What is our Mr Car Moron or even his Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, (who obviously must be aware of this blatant bias) doing about it ?
Over to the Tory contributors on this site……………………..
Agreed Taffman, I suspect the pro EU stay campaigners like carmoron gives not a damn, it was possibly organised this way through a collaborative process between the government and AlBeeb. Cameron needs the Beeb right now to brainwash its citizens. The Beeb need the funding from the EU plus lots of EU migrants for license fees. Common goals, you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.
Thank god for existence of this site and others like it.
Wronged, it seems to be a case of my enemy’s enemy is my friend.
It’s Cameron against the population teaming up with the bbc against the population.
These people are our enemies and they are not serving the best interests of the U.K.
They are doing what’s best for themselves and the ordinary punters can just bend over and take it.
Whether it’s Cameron telling his mp’s to ignore their constituents or the mp’s siding with Cameron for their own personal gains and brownie points as opposed to doing the right thing it’s all the same old story. They are there for themselves and not to represent us.
Farage was completely correct when he said it’s the people versus the politicians.
Maybe a handful are doing the right thing but about 645 are in it for what they can get and screw you, the constituent. You don’t count.
“Over to the Tory contributors on this site…………………….. ”
And it’s all gone quiet over there.
Essexman must have had his Horlicks.
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I am not to be blamed for invoking Essexman this time.
It will be your fault Rhif Saith .
Peidiwch a son Taffman.
🙂 !
Looks like a Question Time researcher has boobed …
Successful businessman and Dragons’ Den star says UK should leave the EU
http://www.betteroffout.net/successful-businessman-dragons-den-star-says-uk-should-leave-the-eu/
Good Flexdream, I’m glad you have found one to jump onto the leave EU wagon. My point though seems to have evaded you , it is the level of bias involved in the compostion of panellists with regards to the EU which is relevant and I wish to highlight.
16 remain v 4 to leave. Still shows unfair bias.
Thank you though for the info on the Dragon’s Den person.
Theo Paphitis? Champagne Socialist in a Maybach.
Wronged, thanks. Your point didn’t evade me. Theo Paphitis has appeared in Leaver advertising and hopefully will get the chance to put forward the business case for Brexit.
Frankly Number 7 I don’t care if he is a ‘Champagne Socialist in a Maybach’ or not. Socialists and capitalists should support Brexit in my opinion.
June Sarpong?!?!?!
That’s not just one shark jumped, it’s a whole fucking ocean full!
PS. I don’t suppose she knows a fat lot about Stratford (or much else), so maybe this is why she was booked:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-politics/11940185/EU-referendum-Britain-June-Sarpong-on-why-shes-not-the-youth-vote.html
If that’s the best of her arguments, I don’t think the Brexit campaign should be too worried about her contribution — though she might sway some of the ‘client vote’.
Well I worked my way through all that waffle hoping to find a reason for staying ‘in’ – essentially she thinks it is 70 million of ‘us’ against 7,000 million of ‘them’, even the US is worried, she thinks.
Brazil, India and China are a long way away, besides we have established relationships of mutual respect as a result of sharing a long history. Now that lot across the channel, that’s a different story. There is certainly no sign of any great love for us NOW, why should it get better in the future? With ‘friends’ like that I for one would rather take my chances the rest of the world!
P.S. If the EU is so good why has she spent the last 8 years in the USA?
Get your tin hats on and expect an attack form ‘Zero’/’Scott (or whatever he calls himself)
He will be on shift any time now ?
Taffman, it is often said that in their private life, most trolls are sad and lonely people. They get their gratification by being snide and offensive in order to wind people up in order to get a reaction and upset them. Their intention is to virally worm their way into the website and stop good people from participating.
Moderators generally, should be much harder on these pathetic individuals
They invariably join sites with numerous names and under different guises. This might explain the number of people who uptick their comments on this site, it is often themselves. Personality wise, pstcholoists say they are generally weak personalities who offend behind a computer screen. I feel sorry for them.
It is important to respect people with a different opinion to my own, especially if the arguments are constructive, however the snide comments in their posting often expose their intentions to annoy.
It sounds as if Zero/Scotty fit this description
They are best ignored and reported to moderators.
Longshot…………but any attendee looking in could they ask the SNP why their local councilors are supporting a campaign
to fly the Irish tri-colour over a council property in April……….to mark 100 years of the easter uprising of 1916………………
And based on the answer what has this got to do with a country in the United Kingdom.
It would emblematically IRA symbolic if the council property was ceremonially blown up in celebrating the 100 years, the IRA used to prefer to do it with the tenants inside!
It is a dangerous game, but I bet they would not dare to do it in Glasgow. There may be a few proddies with something to say about that !
Yup, that June Sarpong seems a real character.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/12/eu-campaign-hires-june-sarpong-conspiracy-investigator-believes-america-controlling-weather/
I do hope the issue of ‘climate change’ comes up.
Theo Paphitis pro Brexit. don’t think so!
So reassess the score 16 pro EU v 3 pro Brexit, i unsure (Theo).
Sarpong says we should wonder if Trump is a human.
Nandy thinks that calling a bunch of migrants a bunch of migrants is as extreme as Trump.
Click.
Four panelists supporting remaining in the EU and one undecided, nothing new here. Strangely enough the audience (for a change) seemed reasonably balanced (well for the BBC that is!)
Both sides will target the 20% don’t knows during the next few months, however I’ve got a sneaking feeling that the newspapers and other parts of the MSM that look at the moment to be neutral or supporting Brexit will throw in their lot with the ‘remain in brigade’ and we will get editorial statements such as ‘the Sun says’ etc. (the BBC have obviously already shown their bias)
Perhaps I’m being too cynical and I hope I’m wrong.
My God! If that is the quality of our elected representatives, and cultural and business voices then we are in trouble. That was more ‘An evening with Dimbleby’ than an interrogation of today’s political landscape. Apart from a brief spat between Sarpong and Paphitis early on, and then Greening and Nandy at the end, that was a bland, amorphous pro-EU, anti-grammar school BBC talk show. It all had the feel of being sponsored by the Guardian. Is John Nicolson a politician or a television personality? Because I couldn’t work it out. That was pretty much a politician-free QT with a very docile audience apart from the remarkably angry headteacher who may have been a QT plant or just a random very angry man. Overall, a soporific and superficial QT.
SNP clown
I have to flag this up!
Question Time Extra Time (BBC 5live)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b070d861
[1hr 45m 50s]
Caller Nicholas in Norwich has got it spot on! He makes it quite clear that he’s OK with immigration, but that it’s the level of immigration that is putting a strain on the UK’s infrastructure. You have to hear this to believe it! – Stephen Nolan shows true BBC colours when he accuses Nicholas of blaming immigrants for the destruction of British environment.
Nicholas didn’t say anything of the sort but Nolan stubbornly refuses to acknowledge Nicholas’ protestations and wrongly conflates two issues – dislike of immigrants and concerns over the environment due to population growth.
Please listen, you won’t regret it – but your blood pressure might not be good for you.
What pisses me off about Nolan’s approach is how he laughs it all off! Please listen.
Complaint submitted.
He’s a fat useless bollox……its all about Steve isnt it?
He has a show on radio ulster with a jingle ‘the biggest show in the country’
It would need to be with the size of his lard arse
If we leave the EU there’s no going back apparently
Is that a promise?
Even more incentive to vote Brexit. ……if you are physically capable of voting when it comes and dont…..well……i wont even mention what i am thinking
There was a question about Grammar Schools.
Amazingly about half the entire audience seemed to be working as teachers, or ex teachers, or supply teachers, or other educational workers. Now I know it’s currently half term, but even so.
What are the chances of that??
Note to bBBC. Most people in this country actually work in the private sector and through profitable unsubsidised working, pay a range a taxes to support the public sector. Some occasional recognition of this reality, such as by having an even slightly balanced audience, would be welcome.
There was a question (chosen of course by the bBBC editorial team) about someone’s elderly mother being on the wrong gas/electricity tariff and how he had had to get her on the correct one.
Queue the inevitable indignation, ” nationalise the energy sector” drivel, attack the “evil” energy companies (who admittedly are not blameless) and “why doesn’t the government get involved and do something ”
What no-one had the guts to say was “well sir, I’m glad to hear you are supporting your elderly mother because that is exactly what you should be doing and not expecting to wash your hands of her and expect the state to do the job for you”.
In the bBBC socialist nirvana world, nanny state needs to get involved in everything, the individual should not be relied on – in other words, socialist collectivism is morally correct and the freedom of the individual is morally indefensible.
Not unexpected of course from the European Socialist Broadcasting Corporation but still most revealing.