No Question Time this week, but instead, on the night of the most important vote of the past 50 years, we have an all night chat (for those with the stamina anyway). David Dimbleby anchors the coverage of the results, assisted by a predictably leftist menagerie of Remainiacs. If it all gets too sickening there will be the option to switch to ITV’s live coverage instead.
Kick off tomorrow (Thursday) at 9.55 pm
Why didn’t I see this on the BBC? Too close to the Brexit vote?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3651956/Hundreds-migrants-closed-Calais-violent-rampage-tried-board-ferries-UK-police-used-tear-gas-force-back.html
Undoubtedly. It has been widely flagged on web sites discussing the referendum. There can only be one explanation – it was inconvenient for the BBC’s biased news agenda.
PMexit will be next,fruitcake at the two leavers party I think.
I’m waiting for the BBC to slip into the news “Jo Cox, who would have voted Remain, would have been 42 years and one day old today.”
Interest will wane from now on. She’s served her purpose.
I’m half expecting to walk through a Jo Cox shrine as I enter my local polling station.
serious question… Has Parliament ever been recalled over the death of a junior, back-bench opposition MP before? And who thinks there would have been anywhere near the fuss had there not been an impending referendum?
Geyza.
Perhaps they do it for an MP who was doing very important Government work in the Middle East, and who provided one more service for them
Just been to vote after visiting the dentist for 2 shots of anesthetic the polling point staff thought I’d been hit in the mouth.”not yet I replied.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36590032
Not here it’s not.Nice to see PR over talent Lilly Allen jumping on the bandwagon. Lets see if we have the same circus next year.
Knock knock
Who` there?
Jo
Jo who?
Ah well, that`s showbiz…face me down, and park your bike…now is it Jeremy Hunts or Boris Johnsons?…urgh…I demand that of Jon Snow or Jeremy Corbyn.
Maria, my thoughts exactly – expect talk of a ‘quiet family funeral’ and a ‘chance for relatives to mourn in private’ etc from when the polls close tonight.
What? no state funeral then for Jo?
Well, I’m dedicating my leave vote to Saint Jo.
Am I alone in noting Sky and the BBC last night telling lies that are provable?
Juncker stated yesterday afternoon that there would be no re negotiation if Britain voted to stay in the EU.. the EU had given Cameron all it ‘was willing / able’ to give.
Sky stated that people were mistaken and that he said if we voted to leave there would be no re negotiation, which begs the question ‘how can you negotiate that of which you are not a part’?
The BBC repeated the lie in saying that Juncker said there would be no renegotiation if we left the EU, not if we stayed within it.
This is a blatant lie I listend to his speech and over at Brietbart they have the quote.
Many millions of people probably believe we can negotiate with the EU and are probably basing their vote on it.
These lies really need to be taken up and challenged as this was a highly significant statement by Juncker that given the proper prominence it warranted could have swayed a significant part of the electorate to vote leave. For me this was the biggest and nastiest ‘remain’ lie along with the Jo Cox stunt.
On a separate note Feisal Islam interupts sneers and screws his nose up at the likes of Farage and Gove. Notice him on call me Dave’s battle bus last night not saying a word letting Cameron warble on and only meekly asking him in a humble *rse licking sort of way ‘how do you think your campaign has gone’ before obligingly letting him warble on yet again?
All the tv channels gave Camerons speech prominence over all of the Brexiters speeches.
I believe the vote is lost the propaganda / bullying far to much for non political people to see through.
I still think Brexit will win this. turnout will be lower in strongly remain areas (of which there are fewer) and every vote counts. The majorities for leave will be much bigger in leave areas.
I shall watch Dimbledignitas if the results are not going his way, otherwise I shall go to bed.
Great to see all the tabloid papers(excepting Maxwells old arsewipe as lived through Alistair Campbell) out on display at the paper shop.
On the way out though, overheard an assistant saying something about “needing security”.
Hope that`s work related-not an excuse to stay in the EU…resisted the urge to check, bit cheeky too.
As I say-thnk we`ll win, but if she HAS voted for security to stay in-sadly, none of us will get it.
And-next time she moans as we`ve all done about kids not getting flats, wives unable to get into the hospital, the crap laws that let Lee Rigbys butchers get private dental work and a cheque from Cherie Blair, but nearly crucify a Tony Martin-then I`ll refer her to CiF or You and Yours…because they conspired to make my life(and that of my kids) far worse due to too much BBC too much schooling, too much NHS brainwashings.
Until then though-I did the darkest thickest cross against Leaving, so they can`t rub it out easily..
Over 75 years ago, my grandparent’s generation did their duty to defend and uphold their sovereign democracy from continental attack. They risked bullets and bombs to do so. It mattered not that they were uncertain of the outcome, nor that they were scared. They did what was necessary to defend their birthright of freedom and democracy to hand on intact to future generations.
Today, peacefully in a voting booth, thanks to their sacrifice, I proudly did my part to defend our birthright so that we can hand it on intact to the next generation.
I voted Leave.
A spot of anecdotal cheer for Leavers – and a MEMO to BBC news-rakers who think that Twitter and Facebook give a true reflection of the country’s opinion.
Just spoken to student son (currently abroad, proxy vote, heart-pounding moment as I asked how he wanted to vote). Out, he said. Couldn’t wait to get off his chest how idiotic some of his fellow languages students were. “Facebook is unbearable. Remain. Remain. Remain. But they’re so stupid. They think they won’t get Visas for their year abroad!”
Not promising, I said. No, he replied, they’re all hot air. Most won’t actually vote, haven’t even worked out there isn’t a voting app. Anyone who has a brain and understands the democratic issues involved is just standing back and posting nothing, seeing how dim these people really are and how some follow the crowd in public but maybe not in private. He and his friends know it doesn’t mean very much. BBC researchers, though, will quite possibly make the same mistake they made before the last election.
I just had to laugh to myself when I saw a friend on FaceBook (who’s profile pic is currently the EU flag with ‘IN’ written in the middle) post a 28 degrees petition to oppose the building of thousands of houses on local greenbelt land. They just don’t get it.
We have not spoken yet
May the people of England finally speak on this day:
“Smile at us, pay us, pass us; but do not quite forget;
For we are the people of England, that never have spoken yet.”
[…]
“But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.”
Today at Glastonbury. People’s Hero Billy Bragg led a moving silent tribute to Jo Cox followed by an equally moving rendition of ‘We Shall Overcome’ sung by a cast of thousands.
The fact that they stood in mud similar, although shallower, to that in which their grandfathers and great grandfathers lived, fought and died in order to preserve their right to enjoy such political manipulation will most certainly have been lost on them.
Top post Beltane.
Let’s just hope that these traitors forgot to postal vote.
“silent tribute”
The highlight of his set, if not his entire career. To be encouraged.
As an “older white man” …
Whatever the result of the referendum, as an “older white man” [see http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/durham-mp-pat-glass-brands-11418556%5D I will never forget some of the scorn heaped on the likes of me simply because I was born in the UK of British parents in the 1940s:
Durham MP Pat Glass described old white men as a “problem” during an EU referendum rally in the midlands. It comes just two weeks after the Shadow Europe Minister was forced to apologise after calling a voter who complained about their Polish neighbours a “horrible racist”.
Speaking at a Labour supporters event in Wolverhampton the Labour MP said that women and young people were ‘key’ to a successful Remain vote in the referendum before adding: “Go and speak to your mother, your grandmother. Don’t speak to your grandfather, we know the problem are older white men.”
I do hope *all* older white men have kept this in mind when they voted today.
Ageist, racist and sexist in three words. Typical Labour, I bet (s)he won’t be called to resign like a Conservative would for such blatant ismism.
It’s blue for leave, it’s yellow for remain, and Vine is standing in his virtual Downing St (re-hashed from GE). Jeremy you would be better placed standing on a virtual White Cliffs of Dover building your yellow-brick road across the Channel.
Bollocks to this. Nigel has conceded the Remainiacs have won already. FUCKIT, FUCKIT, FUCKIT. Good night… NOT.
Much as Mr. Farage has contributed, while he may concede on a personal basis, which seems oddly precipitate given known data, he represents who exactly?
Voters reported Ipsos-Mori exit-pollsters in action today. Problem is, Ipsos-Mori isn’t conducting an exit poll. Very odd.
http://archive.is/gB3l2
I think there was a later post saying there was an exit polling company operating. Maybe they were working for the government and that is why the politicians seem to ‘know’ the result?
Migrant crisis: 4,500 rescued in Mediterranean in one day
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36611059
(Linked from the BBC news home page.)
Oh what a surprise. Look what’s back on the BBC’s front page, now that the polling stations have closed.
Kamel Ahmed calls the result. It’s Remain according to economic indicators with the pound having its strongest day in 30 years. Do I need to hear from Gibraltar now? Or even Newcastle where there are teams of students running around with the ballot boxes competing with Sunderland as to who declares first. It’s a Knockout!
On the other thread I predicted 51-52% for Remain. Yougove says the same. I wish I was wrong (possibly may still be) but I now feel it might be a little bigger win for the EU slaves.
The BBC have called this. Compare the jovial and jokey atmosphere in the BBC studios between Dimbleby, Watson and Vine, with the look of astonishment and confusion at this time of the evening after the last GE. You can almost hear the massive sigh of relief. Even IDS looks happy it’s all over, though not an invited signatory to the letter to Cameron from Gove, Johnson, Grayling asking him to stay on regardless.
It’s back to business as usual folks.
Including today’s earlier polls, my poll-of-polls now shows Remain leading by 1.3%
This is a swing of 4 points since yesterday when Leave were leading by 2.7%.
I am struggling to understand what could have accounted for this sudden and late swing… delayed effects of the St Jo’s day massacre (let’s not be numbrist), due to polls taking some days to complete? Unbridled BBC in full-tilt propaganda mode?
Either way it’s not a good sign.
Coupled with the YouGov exit poll and the strong £ showing today (based no doubt on private exit polls for hedge funds) I think we can expect a narrow Remain victory.
Sickeningly, it looks like all the dirty tricks have paid off – at least in the short term.
Hi All
I wouldn’t give up yet with the turn out being so high the pollster models aren’t worth the paper they are written on. We appear to have so many new voters I still think anything could happen.
I should add, I hope to god I am wrong. But I very much doubt that anyone who is prepared to resort to murder would let a little vote-rigging get in their way – particularly if they have form.
The self confidence by the BBC before a SINGLE result comes in is suspicious.
This is nauseating. There’s a love-fest going on between Dimbleby and Rudd, and a re-writing of history as Rudd denies her Boris smears. Carswell also appears to concede defeat. Farage is ridiculed by Dimbleby and Kuensberg for now un-conceding defeat and un-resigning after the last GE. This is what we have got to look forward to now. Insufferable smugness by the BBC.
Interesting thought: commonwealth citizens represent almost 900,000 voters, out of a total electorate of 46.5m, or almost 2%.
It’s so close that the commonwealth UK residents – if they all voted the same way – could effectively decide the referendum.
(I can’t find figures on size of the Irish electorate.)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11794458/Commonwealth-citizens-could-swing-the-EU-referendum.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/11794458/Commonwealth-citizens-could-swing-the-EU-referendum.html
Just noticed also: Trolls went offline just before 10pm. Coincidence?
Commonwealth will not all have voted the same way. Many of them are unhappy about EU immigration.
That’s true Aerfen – good point.
Minutes grief-fest on Sky at the moment for the “Inspirational” Jo Cox. Inspirational to whom? Terrorists.
I’m toying with the idea to get myself a t-shirt that says “Don’t blame me. I voted Brexit.”
Great idea. What about the background as a big EU flag, with that slogan in small lettering so you only see it when you get up close. The irony would be brilliant.
Also, might save getting beaten up by left-wing peace loving tolerant nice welcoming democratic safe-spacers.
I think we ought to print rear window car stickers saying exactly that !!!!
Leave. 46%+ of the vote.
One political party that represents their view, and with one MP. Douglas Carswell
Even more undemocratic than the EU and that is really saying something.
Any remain win will be pyrrhic in the extreme.
Cast our minds back to our last G.E. Why was it that so many areas of Great Britain turned ‘Blue’? Remember also that 4 million voted UKIP, now why would the electorate do that? The electorate voted conservative and UKIP in the numbers they did because they knew by doing so, it would force the referendum, the referendum being to carry the out/leave vote. So why now at the time of the referendum vote, would they not do as they did in the G.E. and to continue to make a statement, that statement being to vote to ‘leave’? It makes no sense to me, to see all those votes cast in the G.E. to now have those same votes cast to ‘remain’.
Keep the faith, the party isn’t over till the fat lady sings.
It does make sense. Project fear working, the timid electorate ‘holding to nurse’, the special whining voice saying:
“I think voting ‘remain’ is the safer option”.
Nigel has just reminded us of the gerrymandering Cameron did in allowing two extra days for voter registration after the machine went down conveniently 15 minutes prior to close of registration. Convenient time for Remain, a convenient murder of an unknown Remain campaigning MP. Curioser and curioser.
It was gerrymandering but very clever gerrymandering which cannot be criticised without appearing anti democracy!
Cameron won that one, and Farrage would be better not complaining.
“Farrage would be better not complaining”
Why do you think that?
Personally, I think it was anti-democratic to extend a deadline by 2 days when there was a 15 minute failure.
If the media want to pillory Farage for that, then they will – or on any other issue, including using a poster from the BBC’s own output, for goodness sake.
“Any stick will do to beat the dog.”
“Convenient time for Remain, a convenient murder of an unknown Remain campaigning MP. Curioser and curioser.”
It’s almost as if the government might have used their power to mess with the referendum. But no, they would never do that, now would they.
What a piece of shite Douglas Carswell is. A totally uncharismatic failed Tory MP who has become a bit of a somebody thanks to UKIP stabbing Nigel in the back.
Aerfen,
This marks fierce internal battles within UKIP. Carswell needs to go
Newcastle on Tyne. A place where they weigh the Labour vote, not count them.
Labour has been pro EU for the last 30 years.
And yet the city has a virtually tied vote.
Vast numbers of people have been totally unrepresented for years.
Oh Dear. Newcastle does not compute. Can I smell the faint whiff of panic in the BBC studios. Have they jumped too early?
Oh it looks like that.
And whats more it looks like Sunderland will be a 60/40…
Hang in for the ride guys….
Once more the wheels appear to be coming off the bus n albeebs studio…
The Newcastle result has dropped Dimblebores face to the effing floor.
Oh dear I think Mr Dimbleby is beginning to sh*t himself…
Howay the Leaves!
Brilliant. The FTSE has just dropped 80 points
Dimbledore and Labour supporting Laura K are sounding increasingly morose.
Also Euro dropping against the US dollar
Overnight trading?
Why do they pay tha wanker for his opinion polls…he came along with 52/48 at the outset for remain…no wonder Dimblebore was looking happpy….not so happy now tho is he.
That dopey scottish bint has just announced Remain are still winning….
For your information, an algorithm makes the pound go up and down on the trading floors of London, the programme responds to key words to effect the change. Believe me, there is money to be made tonight.
“Scotland would love to be an independent nation seated at the EU table”
Ha ha, good luck to them – they obviously haven’t heard how much “influence” we’ve had, while seated at the EU table 🙄
“Ruth Davidson, the hero of the debate two nights ago” – muwahahahahah 🙂
This is hilarious. Kuensberg and Dimbleby are barely able to even say the word Leave now. Come on Sunderland.
Keep watching….Kuennsberg might go postal…
Well done Sunderland
Pound is sinking like a stone against the US dollar. Whoosh!
I’m really enjoying this
Dropped about 4%. Been red for about 1/2 an hour though. Markets are more honest than Sky reporting at the moment (hardly surprisingly).
Pound is sinking like a stone against the US dollar. Whoosh! 400 points
I’m really enjoying this.
It’s brown trousers time in the BBC studios.
Sunderland 61/39!!
A lead of 22 points.
The Grauniad said “Expect Leave to have a lead of six points if the national vote is tied.”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/19/eu-referendum-result-polls-britain-europe
Yes Mike, if Mr Cameron couldn’t pull any strings whatsoever with the fear of G.B. pulling out of the E.U., and he was PM of the whole country (65 million) what on earth does the Scottish bint think she can do that Mr Cameron couldn’t? Deluded or what!
Yes Old Bloke – exactly. Stay in and try and get any more concessions – forget it! And Juncker turned it down flat today in any case.
Not to mention that out of the 72 times we voted “no” in the EU Commission, we lost the vote all 72 times. Pathetic.
Ooooer now Dimbleby is taking Davidson to task for her personal invective in the debate… whodathunkit.
My advice at the moment to speculators is to buy loads of pounds – now as they are low , if you are able!
God, I love you Sunderland. I never thought I’d say that.
Edit – home of Nissan too. Makes more cars than the entire Italian car industry combined. Just a shame Nissan came out pro-Remain.
This is incredible! BBC look like they’re shitting it and looks like favour is to Brexit. Fingers crossed
taffman, no, not now, too soon. The price will still fall.
Shut up Khamal, weak pound is good for exports. It is currently just what is needed.We’ve overheated.
Take an economics course Khamal