Is Trump the only candidate for the Presidency? Seems to be as Clinton rarely gets a mention on the BBC in comparison to Trump….Trump who is, according to Jim Naughtie, a joke, an idiot, and ego maniac…or possibly any number of other things which the BBC freely slanders him with such as he’s a crackpot, simplistic, phoney, a tragedy, a bar room blusterer…importantly though, serious, sensible and grown up people must talk to him and guide him onto the right path as he ‘stokes fear and anger’ by suggesting terrible solutions such as bringing law and order to the streets, preventing terrorism and ensuring American interests are put first in world trade and by not indulging in ‘foreign adventures’ that result in much money spent, much blood spilt and those ‘helped’ somewhat less than grateful….would have thought the BBC would be onboard, sounds like their kind of man in many respects.
The Weekend Open Thread starts here…boogey on, the dancefloor’s all yours…..
Just watching the BBc 4 when pop went epic…Oh dear. What a steaming pile of b/s. The BBc manages to turn a “documentary” on the “concept” album into a BBc agenda driven pile of crap didn’t expect the BLM “anthem” turn up here whilst Ian Anderson mentions “climate change”.
Got to laugh Dave though.
Rick Wakeman seemed to have a twinkle in his eye throughout most of it.
Poor old Ian Anderson?…well what`s the gentleman trout farming jock going to say anyhoo?
Very Brian Pern…and along with Gabriel, Plant and the like a complete twerp as a politio.
Wonder why we expect them to be politically clued-up?…Roger Daltrey alone seems not to be a PC idiot.
Channel 4 asked the peerless Antony Hegarty-now a transgender lardy called Anomie or such..Ammonia was it?…what he shezie thought of Trump getting in.
“End of the world” says our kaftan geezerbirdie
“Back to the Studio” says Cathy Newman-having driven the sad chapette one step nearer to the noose…or a cream cake anyway.
As I say-comedy gold all of it, asking Ian or Tony what they think of politics is Ian McCartney or Geoff Hoon what they think of the Aeolian chord progression?
“Thick as a…., well, an environmentally sustainable block of love that saileth forth through Angela Eagles Parlour?”
“Poor old Ian Anderson?…………………….Thick as a…., well, an environmentally sustainable…………….”
Chris, you have to remember that Tull’s album “Thick as a Brick” contained one of the most important pieces of advice ever given by the music industry – “Always leave your underpants with someone you can trust”. Follow that maxim and you can’t go far wrong.
Got a lot of time for Jethro Tull…well ahead of my likes back in the 70s when I hated all that hippie crap, and loved punk.
Like Thatcher, Jesus and Reagan etc…couldn`t have been more wrong to scoff…fell for Red Ken, Kinnock and Will Hutton.
Never Polly or Harriet though, thank the Lord…
What has the BBC been saying on this lone-wolf (wolves if there were three or more), mentally ill, rapidly radicalised, disenfranchised, lower socio-economic level gunman in Munich?
Best scrub the CCTV footage immediately of the workplace violence lest the grief at the plight of the poor man/men becomes overwhelming. Or anger perhaps.
Oh, and to preserve the dignity of the victims.
There appears to be no firm information on the perpetrators of this latest outrage, Some reports say I’m German f**k foreigners was shouted others that it was also or Alan’s Snackbar. Some press are going for Right wing extremist trying to link it with Brievik. Although why “Right wing ” extremists would be murdering innocent bystanders I’m unsure. So it’s another wait and see
Meanwhile attempted abduction of serviceman story seems to have vanished
“Meanwhile attempted abduction of serviceman story seems to have vanished”
A dignity thing I’m sure.
Another pretext seems to be to “protect operational security methods”.
One does have to marvel at the technique though I must say. After all, if one opposes in any measure the rationale of information control being force-fed to us currently you can then be immediately condemned on the basis that “you oppose victim dignity”?….”you oppose the interests of the leetle cheeldren”?…..”you oppose the security system being able to operate in greater safety”?……
A rather clever neurolinguistic I think.
Yes indeed, no firm information at all.
After watching a couple of favourite films and sipping some of my favourite whisky, I turned the wireless on to hear Big Ben at midnight as I often do.
I swiftly turned off again at 00:07 when I heard the “theory” that this might have been “right-wing extremists” celebrating the 5th anniversary of Breivik’s massacre in Norway.
I will be the first to apologise to the *Very* Biased BBC if they have that story right, but in the meantime they can go f*ck themselves with a bargepole and continue showing lovely pictures of candles, stuffed toys, flowers, maybe the odd passing piano player, and of course, *all* of the current “trending” social meeja # tags, whatever, which are praying for Munich.
“God Bless Us, every one!” – Tiny Tim.
The rooftop video has the supposed attacker shouting “ich bin deutscher” (I am a German). But the people shouting down to him have been calling him “Arschloch”, “Wichser”, “Kanake” ( arsehole, wanker, wog). So this may be a “home grown” terrorist” rather than a blond, Teutonic patriot.
Although the “ich bin deutscher” sounded very native rather than “Kanakendeutsch” or even Munich dialect.
The video seems to start suddenly, no real context for what has been said or seen previously.
Rest assured that our liberal friends will already be fitting up, drugging up some suitable tool who`ll wave a Nazi flag or shout something about Farage or wanting our country back.
Like the Reichstag fire, the Gleiwitz tower or the killing of Kirov…the left know how to do this..and Breivik was an answer to a lefty incantataion..they don`t pray!
If it`s not this Munich case-there`ll certainly be one provocateur getting primed to ensure a clampdown, backlash and a cry for Juncker and the BBC to calm things down for a while.
If we don`t deal with Islam-the Left will provide a facsimile of it to cause a civil war that they alone will claim to prevent.
German officials admit it was a 18 year old German-Iranian?…whatever that is…after 6 or so hours of suggesting it was a right wing nutter influenced by the anniversary of Anders Breivik…
10 dead, 5 attackers somehow escaped ….R5 just now latest on Munich
Kids shot down outside McDonalds
Now they changed this to ..1 gunman has killed self + 9 covilians ..and maybe there he was the only gunman
The French wanted to destroy the CCTV in Nice-for fear of jihadists taking advantage?
More like so we`d not know the incompetence and the slobbering over Islamic terrorists.
To be fair, it`s Hollandes goons that want it gone-the local Mayor certainly does not, seeing as it will form evidence.
But we can expect more of this airbrushing and post-edits of events like these…so we can be led to believe that we only dreamed it.
Really creepy…it`s as if the EU need Islam to surrender themselves to, and offer us as halal butcher practice.
Downturn in anti-Trump bias ? Like have we got thru to BBC about their previous outrageous bias ?
R4 10pm news They had an expert fact check 8 large Trump claims as they played excerpts from his speech one by one
and the expert said to each one “yeh that’s pretty much right”
The only one that he pulled up Trump for, was the claim that 1.5 million convicted illegal immigrants are back out on the streets to commit more violence. That one he said was a bit cheeky cos although the actual stat was right the vast majority had been convicted of none violent crime.. so although they are out on the street they are not all likely to commit violence.
– Then Yesterday I complained about R5’s Up AllNight becoming SneeratTrump all night, but this mornings coverage was different and held back on the sneering commenting on minor compromises Trump had made about respecting gays, helping existing immigrants, something about helping Latinos etc,
Downturn in Anti-Trump bias? No chance it started with breakfast digging up the Mexico wall and banning the cult from entry stories.
Look we all know Newsnight is rubbish but that callow youth who fronted it tonight is about as useless as it gets. Who TF is he?
Desperately trying to get a very polite American lady to admit that Trump and David Duke had much in common and therefore Trump was an ex officio Klansman.
I would have told him to FO or go and ask Duke not bother me.
If this is the level of BBC staff now they might as well give up. And I doubt if anyone would buy the BBC either so let us just liquidate the whole wretched shower and save ourselves billions.
By the way I listened to the whole of Trump’s speech. If I were Clinton I would be very worried. Trump is very very sharp and knows just what he needs to say to win.
Agreed DS, I’ve listened to quite a few of his speeches; when you do, you realize why al beebus only play small sound bites from them.
Dave S, I listened to the entire speech and I agree. Clinton should be very worried indeed. He hit her hard on everything that makes her unfit to be president:
*Her callous desertion of the US Ambassador and the others killed at Benghazi
*Classified emails on her private server
*Disastrous record as Secretary of State
*Enriching herself in deals with suspect countries
*Her intention to decimate mining and other industries
*Her ties to Wall Street
*Her lies
It’s possible, in fact probable that Trump was briefed by close friend Judge Jeanine Pirro, who has a number of incisive political videos up on YouTube, many of them exposing Clinton for the fraud she is:
Tried three times to link Trump to the KKK leader…as if Trumps supporter could possibly have a clue why David Duke would speak as he does…or did…if indeed he even did so.
Point made, smear sneer and off O Brien goes.
This bloke is a pube-infested smugrat-and needs slotting in another format than a BBC “flagship” programme.
Peurile, sly and nasty…we used to have people like Robin Day and Brian Walden.
Now we have the likes of O Brien and Nicky Campbell.
I think we can see who are the dangerous ones
..The arrogant self righteous Guardian Reading Zombies The GRombie Mob
..They think they are above the law ..You’ll often see them jabbing their fingers, but probably not long before they start jabbing guns
..They are not happy when things don’t go their way.
Just read the bBC very sanitised story on the shootings in Muchen. (its a city I know well and the shooting was only a few Ks from the British consulate) Anybody here able to tell me why the bBC left out:
1) The majority of victims were children
2) The shooters didn’t look European
3) That they shouted ‘Allah ackba’
4) That Islam is a religion of peace. (Funny enough they haven’t used that adage for a while now)
Pounce, 4) – Could it be that its just dawning on them what with the sheer weight of the numbers of atrocities building up?
Slogan that just came up on Twitter
If that’s a badge, I’d like to buy one
£1.50…
http://the-bonny-badge-company.myshopify.com/products/38mm-badge-is-that-true-or-did-you-hear-it-on-the-bbc
Thank you Dazed I’m on the case. Just for good measure I’ll buy another for my good lady wife to wear.
Any car window stickers?
I was interested until I saw some of the other stuff on sale.
I think I’ll decline and make my own:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-BLANK-large-round-diy-make-your-own-badges-/380418906145
And it will be ruder!
An ‘… or did you read it in the Guardian?’ version would be good, too.
T shirts with the slogan ” the Guardian, wrong about everything, all the time” are available here….
http://www.moretvicar.com/products/the-guardian-mens-white-t-shirt
No one seems to do a ‘I’m the one the Guardian warned you about’ one, which I’d prefer.
Although that would mean polluting my body (and T-shirt drawer) with the Guardian’s logo.
They should do one with an image of the GRombie Mob on the front.
and on the back
an image of the Guarlek The Guardian “comment is Free” moderator
(In the Guardian when you post a comment which goes against the their house narrative, the Guarlek is one that trundles towards your comment (like a Dalek) to delete it and ban your member ship AGAIN, jabbing its one angry finger and schreeching “Excommunicate !, Excommunicate !”
” when you post a comment which goes against the their house narrative”
Let me emphasise I meant
“when you post a COMPLETELY FAIR and REASONABLE comment, which goes against the their house narrative”
Yes, that’s the Guardian. CIF put me on ‘pre-moderation’ a number of times for posting fair and reasonable comments and finally banned me.
I almost feel sorry for that motley crew at the Guardian. Try as they might, they simply cannot increase the circulation of their lefty dead-tree version and are obliged to go to desperate measures online, like tolerating people like us who go against the lefty grain on CIF so that their click count can be increased to impress advertisers. It took them years to ban me.
StewGreen – now you mention it, Polly Toynbee does remind me a bit of Davros …….
I would suggest that with all the security cameras surrounding the shopping centres the security forces would be better informed, especially with the technology about these days?
Indeed Taff,
One should really completely delete such footage though.
For dignity’s sake and operational reasons.
They truly wonder why such a huge number of people (and growing rapidly) are so f-ing cynical?
BBC insists on its web page that the gunman was acting alone!
This view,the Islamic BBC say is supported by the German police.
Guardian/BBC now reporting that the Munich gunman is German………………………………………………………………..of Iranian descent.
As usual the Mail is streets ahead and reporting a shouted conversation between the gunman and a man on a balcony, where the man on the balcony calls him a foreigner and a w*nk*r.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3704230/Munich-mall-shooter-responds-mad-Turk-taunts-onlookers.html
TPO
The BBC/Sky as usual only mentioned the shouted “I am German” comment, to suggest he was some kind of “angry nativist”. But clearly those shouting down to him would not have called him a “Kanake” (wog/coon) if had been Aryan.
Will the makers of the video be prosecuted for “hate speech” ?
The BBC employs someone by the name of Katty Kay (surely not). Here is Kay’s take on the RNC under the byline Katty Kay: Hillary-hate ‘vicious’.
According to her “the delegates at this convention seem to have gone beyond even Mr Trump on politically extreme rhetoric. ” Apparently it is politically extreme to point out that the criminal Clinton is just that, a criminal. She is aghast that delegates have had the temerity to chant “lock her up”. What does the stupid cow expect, a ringing endorsement of the criminal Clinton by the RNC.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36862552
Meanwhile WikiLeaks have exposed the grotesque gargoyle, DNC chairman Debbie Wasserman Shultz berating news channels for giving her a hard time and contacting their bosses demanding retractions and apologies for suggesting underhand behavior.
Then WikiLeaks issue another tranche of emails which expose the gargoyle doing just that, indulging in an underhand campaign against Bernie Sanders.
I wait with baited breath for the stupid cow Katty Kay and the BBC to pen something on that. On second thoughts I won’t hold my breath.
Phew
Its all ok guys……just the ROP at their fun and games again
When are these far right nutters going to give us all something to really get stuck into?
/Sarcasm off
You can just picture the dejected faces of all those dhimmis in newsrooms all over europe
Hilarious the BBC managed to show a family from the ROP fleeing the scene in Germany with one of them in a post box suit in a wheelchair – somebody will be getting a promotion there. Well I’ve watched 20 minutes of Breakfast and I still have no real clue what happened in Munich from their reporting.
Sky news review last night sank to new depths of BBC level lies and propaganda.
One of the talking heads was Susie Boniface aka Fleet Street Fox. Not the sharpest tool in the box but she outdid herself with comments such as:-
“Terrorism doesn’t have a colour or religion, it’s just terrifying”
“This is not Islamic terrorism it’s Germanic terrorism”
“Don’t forget this is the anniversary of the Anders Breivik attack, this is a rightwing attack and migrants are being wrongly blamed”
“Why would anyone want to carry out an attack outside a McDonalds?…..it must be an attack on corporate Germany”
Breath-taking ignorance and denial.
thirdoption,
“Breath-taking ignorance and denial.”.
Please forgive me if I appear somewhat contrarian but I think this is done with full insight and a private inner awareness that the “system” whatever one takes that to mean has very firmly cornered itself. Any public admission from this point on can only take them and everyone else to a very dark place indeed.
It’s much like the analogy of the “mad old aunt” in the cupboard with a strange sort of conspiracy of silence while she shrieks and wails for all to hear.
ANY consensual acknowledgement of the problem then DEMANDS action.
Our Lords and Masters are in grave trouble with those they are nominally appointed to serve and they very well know it.
They will also know that history has an annoying habit of throwing up a Robespierre or a Lenin or ilk despite the most ferocious barriers in their way to their destiny.
The intensifying of the control mechanisms are symptomatic (Facebook and Twitter are merely the more visible manifestations).
They are very worried of a most primal accounting for all this , of that I am certain.
All so predictable and predicted and avoidable yet now too late for an amicable solution.
If I may quote (sort of) the great man Winston Churchill of Stalin “I would give the Devil himself a kind word if he were to help in destroying Hitler”. I’m very much afraid I am of the same view at this point.
boohanna,
You may be right, deliberate denial to limit the damage.
I do know though, that if I were to lie and deceive people in my job I wouldn’t last two minutes. I’d also probably be prosecuted and go to jail.
They seem to be incapable of seeing that it is their refusal to take sensible, practical steps to deal with these problems, that is causing the people to turn to more ‘extreme’ politicians. They think it is the economy, globalisation, etc, that is leading to the ‘rise of the far right’. It isn’t. It is the refusal of the political elite to take the obvious necessary steps to protect their people. If Le Pen gets elected in France, it won’t be because of her amazing political skills, it will be a reaction against their defeatist arrogant attitudes – i.e. ‘You (the little people) must get used to dying. We don’t give a shit about you dying. We care more for our naive world view than we care about your security and way of life.’
Once people realise the truth, the future will write itself.
“This is not Islamic terrorism it’s Germanic terrorism”
Damn those Germans.
Time for gun control in Germany, obviously.
What’s that you say, they already have it?
Gun control is obviously going to work in the USA then 🙄
Shhhhhh… Don’t mention “migrant control” anybody, please. That might be racist. I think I mentioned it once, but I got away with it.
Only Russia’s state broadcaster RT is carrying balanced coverage of possible motives.
We have gun control in the UK.
One of our previous and dim-witted Governments decided to take guns away from our sportsmen & sportswomen (some of whom were Olympic medal winning stuff, who only ever used them to shoot at bits of card with circles drawn on them or somesuch) and instead allow plenty of them into the hands of terrorists and criminals or let legitimate farming & game shooting ones fly away, hither & thither, without proper checks to find where they were nesting.
Didn’t prevent this week’s tragedy in Lincolnshire.
Tim Farron, the laughable joke of a politician, has stated:-
“The people of Munich, my thoughts and prayers are with you now”
That’ll sort ’em Tim.
Just how many Muslims entered Germany during the exact time over which he made his profound utterance?
But Obamas “heart went out to the people of Germany”.
Which surely trumps Tiny Tim.
Has anybody called Tim EVER achieved their destiny?
Tim Fallon even his wife wouldn’t vote for him – I’m assuming he has one he is a bit limp
Daniel Pipes: Three possibilities for Europe’s future as Islamization grows
Daniel Pipes talks about Europe’s crossroads: Will Europeans succumb to Islamization, or will they rise to fight radical Islam and hold onto Western values?……..
A prescient Saturday morning poem from Thomas Babington Macauley…if you believe, as Daniel Pipes does, that we shall not so willingly surrender European society to Islam.
Heap heavier still the fetters; bar closer still the grate;
Patient as sheep we yield us up unto your cruel hate.
But by the shades beneath us, and by the gods above,
Add not unto your cruel hate your still more cruel love.
Then leave the poor plebian his single tie to life –
The sweet, sweet love of daughter, of sister, and of wife,
The gentle speech, the balm for all that his vext soul endures,
The kiss in which he half forgets even such a yoke as yours.
Still let the maiden’s beauty swell the father’s breast with pride;
Still let the bridegroom’s arms enfold an unpolluted bride.
Spare us the inexpiable wrong, the unutterable shame,
That turns the coward’s heart to steel, the sluggard’s blood to flame;
Lest when our latest hope is fled ye taste of our despair,
And learn by proof in some wild hour, how much the wretched dare.”
Paddy O’Connell shows his face on BBC Newswatch this morning joined by yet another faceless BBC news manager who won’t give an inch and is convinced she got it about right – what’s the point?
Viewers concerned that Norman Smith shouts “This is a brutal resuffle, isn’t it, Prime Minister!” – well, don’t expect so much as a mild rethink from the Corporation newsroom staff – let alone a balancing re-shuffle.
James Landale attempting to embarrass Boris, the UK and the US Secretary of State with some snarky question about Boris needing to apologise about some such – well don’t expect so much as a blush from the BBC and if viewers are looking for a sorry, forget it.
The BBC news steamroller chugs on regardless.
Can’t name the bod but last night as the Munich incident unfolded some BBC bright spark cottened on to a report that the killer may have spoken German with a local accent, used some impolite racial epithets and moaned about growing up on benefits….
….”Possibly FAR RIGHT MOTIVES!” says the BBC man happily clutching at any straw that might avoid the religion of war and strife… (Germans = Nazis, right?)
Err, possibly FAR LEFT???? or do those not exist in BBC world.
Any way turns out the guy had “Dual German Iranian Nationality” (Whatever that means? – maybe a bad sign considering the Nice lorry Jihadist was “Dual French-Tunisian”)
‘…moaned about growing up on benefits…’
Uh oh, does that mean that the tens of thousands of immigrants sucking at our benefit dugs won’t be grateful for their lot in the future?
And yesterdays @bbcR4Feedback prog had only 13 tweets to it in 24 hours, In a country of 60 million people.
To me that shows that the public have pretty much given up on it.
with it often repeated lines :
– The BBC told us no one was available to comment.
or “I think we got that about right”
How can she be faceless if she appeared on the programme. Oh yeah, of course, its that ‘post-truth’ politics again. Trump owes Alan, he’s been pioneering it for years.
‘…yet another faceless BBC news manager…’
Faceless, in this context, means a drone-like behind the scenes BBC bureaucrat, acting as corporate apparatchik unthinkingly repeating the same tired old mantra of ‘got it about right’.
Which is pretty obvious if you read the post Mr Cookie-get-to-the-back-of-the-Queue. Not that bright, are you.
Any chance you might address the substantive question of BBC news left liberal bias and their inflexible refusal to acknowledge that bias?
Tristram has told all the couch droids to go with the ‘lone gunman’ meme I think it will help to deflect. Wasn’t it a lone lorry driver last week. What is your point BBC? and is it just me or is there a school somewhere that only teaches weather presenting to gay men and then they all go and work at the BBC
So it was a” German -Iranian” what ever that might be. Not likely to be a member of a “Far Right” organisation then despite the media trying to pin it on them yesterday. Authorities are still trying to work out what the motive might be.
Frank Gardener this morning on the Today programme suggests that the Munich shooting is more akin to the schoolboy massacres that happen in the US. I could buy that Frank, if a) the gunman (where did the BBC suddenly yesterday get the word shooter?) wasn’t of Middle Eastern origin and b) where did the gunman get his weapon (I am assuming that they are not as readily available in Germany as the US.)
I’ve just listened to Gardner. Seems that Today gets its episodes up really promptly for those wanting to listen again. So it’s technically good. Pity about the content, of course.
Even though Gardner acknowledged it is early days, he still managed that absurd speculation likening the attack to those in US schools. Anything to divert attention from the Religion of Peace. It really is pathetic, especially since Gardner himself was a victim of an Islamic terrorist attack that left him paralysed.
BBC standard response to all Islamic terror will be applied to Munich.
1. Blame far right if possible
2. Blame the police
3. Blame the West or his time in the West as forcing him to make a protest no matter how ghastly it was
4.Claim the perpetrator was not really a Muslim . He might have drunk a beer somewhere or had a sausage. Wasn’t a regular attender of the local Mosque. Anything that can be claimed to dilute his adherence to the RoP will do.
5. Claim he was mentally disturbed and who was easily influenced on the internet.
6 Helpfully point out he acted alone. (Why this is seen as somehow making it less frightening to the people of Europe I don’t get as it seems to me much worse than if he were part of planned attack by a gang which is easier to stop.)
7 Claim that this is nothing to do with Islam and have an endless parade of Muslims and the great and the good telling us so.
8.Remind us that the terrorists want us to respond with hatred towards Islam and that we should not do so.
9. Claim there has been a 10000% increase in hate crimes against Muslims and draw our attention to the moral equivalence of throwing a bacon butty at a Mosque to running over 84 men ,women and children or shooting people in a city centre.
10. If all else fails blame Brexit or the rise of Pegida or AFD, or the FN in France or anybody but Muslims.
I know that the BBC runs a lot of repeats but this is getting so predictable.
Double – Great post
Double T, there’s always Nigel Farage! After all, he started all of this.
G. Yes I forgotten the bogey man . BBC folks have nightmares about Nigel. After all he might be the man who started the crumbling of their deluded and dangerous liberal left hegemony. Thanks for reminding me.
Last nights coverage of the attack in Munich was the worst I’ve ever seen of one of these increasingly frequent events.
The constant references to “the Breivik anniversary”across all channels and today in the print media suggest journalistic group think or something far, far, more sinister.
No, I’ll correct that….the non coverage of the arrempted kidnap of a serving RAF airman at Marham is even worse, especially as it is strongly rumoured that this was not the first attempt to kidnap British armed forces personnel.
In Britain there is more of a media sh1t storm about criticism of a Muslim in a hijab reading the news than that service personnel are being advised not to go about their business wearing the Queens uniform. What is going on?
“German Iranian” just makes it worse.
If all terrorists originated in a single country, say Iraq, it might just be possible to argue that their motivation was the second Iraq war or some such. In this case, however, the terrorist isn’t even from an Arab country.
The single common factor is the one that the BBC doesn’t want to talk about – Islam.
Fortunately the story is well and truly out, in spite of all the MSM’s obfuscation.
Yep everybody knows the truth Maria , kind of makes you wonder why the BBC even bothers nobody is listening to them anymore
Actually, most of the leftists don’t realise the truth about Islam and the multicultural dream I think, they are so determined to believe the lies they tell themselves that they really do believe it.
It is frightening. Are they ever going to admit they have been wrong? I sometimes wonder, should it come to civil war, will the leftists fight with Islam or with the rest of us?
New this week from the BBC TV Licensing Blog:
– Enjoy the Rio 2016 Olympics TV Licence Free
– The Role of G4S in TV Licensing Sales
– BBC Blasted for Having 5,000 Job Titles
Douglas Murray speaking on Australian radio yesterday, following the Channel 9 Sonia Kruger “stop muslim migration” furore.
“The public are moving to the right while simultaneously the politicians are stampeding towards the left.”
“Australia has become one of the most anti-free speech countries….”
“We’re only ever one attack away from everything changing….”
From 9:14 onwards Douglas Murray talks about the political cost to the current political classes in terms of media reaction and the reaction of a 2-3 % minority who will call them racist.
While the media reaction sets the scene it’s often mere froth. There’s a much bigger political problem….the global reach and power of Sunni oil money from Qatar and Saudi….both wahabbite, Shia states. This is rarely mentioned, rarely even hinted at. But it can be assumed to buy a lot of influence at the global top tables.
I think Douglas and some other brave reporters should be investigating this.
My typo above…..Paragraph should read,
“While the media reaction sets the scene it’s often mere froth. There’s a much bigger political problem….the global reach and power of Sunni oil money from Qatar and Saudi….both wahabbite, SHARIA states. This is rarely mentioned, rarely even hinted at. But it can be assumed to buy a lot of influence at the global top tables.
There appears to be an awful lot of gunmen with ‘mental illnesses’ recently. The cynic in me is saying the truth is being kept under wraps for fear of a backlash. Who knows what information to be released is being decided by hot phone calls between government, security and the police. I can imagine the scenario ……….. ” for f…s sake don’t mention Islam or we could be seeing rioting on the streets “…………. I wouldn’t mind betting there will be more cases of ‘mental illness’ killings before the end of the Summer.
Or “ffs don’t mention Islam or the Pound/Euro/Dollar/ oil price will be affected”
There’s no doubt you’re right. We know now that the Bataclan slaughter in Paris included the vilest torture of the jihadis’ victims – and that story was completely suppressed by the French government ‘for fear of causing a reaction’. A long overdue reaction, I would have said, but still…
While yesterday’s Munich atrocity was under way, I found myself not even bothering to switch on the radio or TV, the news from both of which was confused, outdated and, for the most part, dominated by talking heads speculating pointlessly. Far more interesting was using the Going Postal blog as a news aggregator, drawing feeds in from all over the Internet. I assume Twitter must have been similar but I won’t use Twitter so can’t say for sure.
What we are watching here is the death of monopolistic broadcast media, which is easy for the government and ideologues to control. Having said that, the cultural Marxist-corporatist agendas of pondlife like Zuckerberg and Dorsey, coupled with attempts to control the Internet by governments, may yet put paid to its usefulness.
Shame on Zuckerberg, who is Jewish, for bowing down to Islam and turning his back on Israel. How the BBC must adore him.
TrueToo,
Zuckerberg is a very nasty piece of work on all levels. Liar, coward, hypocrite, I could go on. But he ticks all the boxes to be a favourite of the vermin at the BBC.
Too true, Grant.
GC spot on. Zucker et al are just part of the liberal left elite and will act in the way the rest of their co elitists would want them to.The elite control the MSM and will soon have at least part control of the internet and another source of truth will be shut down .
NHS cuts…and fears of Brexit reducing the outreach across the EU I`d say.
Oh-and bloody Enoch for shutting down all the psychiatric hospitals.
Oh wait-Enoch….so must be bad…but it`s community and care …err,,,
Can I get back to you?
chrisH,
What ? Is it Scrumpy Saturday down there in the West Country ? Oh, Joe Root just got 200 ! Well done , England !
No excuse needed to ever ask for a Thatchers in any Labour Social Club…as if a Benn or a Foot could EVER have turned apples into lovely cider.
Piss up…Brewery come to mind.
Sorry grant-Joe Root is no name for a sportsman, summer in fact has no sports really I find!
Mike Denness was a Scottish cricketer was he not?
A rarity I`d say.
Only the BBC could possibly think that because the murdering Munich Muslim was IRANIAN-and not therefore likely to be an Arab Sunni-then it can breathe a sigh of relief.
This was not IS-related!
Well done Frank Gardner-can now see why we pay so amply for your axle grease and wheelchair basket updates!
Er…who`s going to tell Frank that-well, maybe he`ll NOT be Islamic State-but he`s almost certainly a Shia Muslim.
You know-the ones under the Ayatollah in 79 who wrote the manual on how to overtopple the Shah and other jahilliya like him
And-on hindsight-that Shah of theirs was a vain, shallow mummys boy and nannied popinjay who thought himself the reincarnation of Cyrus the great….the very epitome of a worthless Peacock Throne poseur, without principles, ability or purpose whatsoever.
And now we see that Pahlavi and his worthless brood of cuckoos, incestuous cretins in charge…they certainly were FAR braver, FAR more knowing, FAR more of a threat to Fundi Islam that ANYTHING we`ve seen ever since,
The Peacock Throne turn out to be much more of a obstacle to Muslim nutters-Shia as well as Sunni-than our gutless craven supplicating, supperating BBC and their Eurovision slime at the European Union.
So Frank-our Muslim Murderer was Shia?…not Sunni?…but you say its not religious?
Still Islam, you tool…whether he said Allah Ahkbar in Farsi or Arabic need not bother you, you creep.
Still Islam, still Muslim, still Merkels fault, still YOUR fault for cooing at the Hbf last year as thousands of “refugees” came into Germany and beyond…IS DID say what they`d be doing…as did Farage.
May has hopefully returned to the UK now…why the hell she puts herself at risk under Merkel or Hollandes “protection” is now going to need a check…
While the atrocities resulting in fatalities are rightly in the limelight lets not forget the barbarous knife attack on a mother and three young daughters, http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/23/alps-stabber-shouted-allahu-akbar-three-times-questioning/, which the BBC seems to be largely ignoring. What goes through the mind of a man/animal who takes a knife to women and children for any reason? But when the reason given is “offended by the father scratching his thigh in the presence of the man’s wife” then we are on the way to a nightmare society. Interestingly the local prosecutor is quoted as saying
” it was “hard to comprehend that such a gesture could have sparked such a serious attack from a person in full mental health or devoid of any ideological intent”.”
Well the mental health part will probably have to wait, as for the ideological bit,
“The man, named only as Mohamed B, reportedly shouted “Allahu Akbar”, meaning Allah is greatest, three times while being questioned by investigators after Tuesday’s attack”
The prosecutor was judging the perpetrator by western standards. He needs lessons on how Muslims look at the world and their value system. You don’t have to be a mad muslim to carry out an attack like this, just a rather excited male muslim looking at a partly clothed woman.Letting millions of young male muslims into your country is the most crazy thing I have seen in my life time. Merkel and Hollande should/must pay the price.
Good point, I hadn’t considered the prosecutors world view, I would hope that somebody in his position would have a more than parochial outlook but that may not be. He could well assess every case without taking into account the perpetrators bacground, culture, religion or homicidal hatred of all things Western into account. Further reading not on the BBC reveals,
“The Moroccan-born attacker, who is from the Paris area, has a police record for petty crimes over the past 15 years. He is reported to have been on holiday at the resort with his pregnant wife and two children.”
So he is a family man, one of the children he stabbed was eight years old and suffered a punctured lung.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/alps-stabbing-family-latest-not-stabbed-for-being-scantily-dressed-prosecutor-says-a7144711.html
http://www.ledauphine.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36874497
BBC website majoring on Breivik with pictures of him giving a Nazi salute and of one of his young victims (13.45).
The murderer in Munich is not even named.
There is bias and then there is a total failure to provide news. We have both with the BBC.
Headline no longer mentions Breivik but changed to “Munich gunman ‘obsessed with mass shootings'” (4.45pm)
The Brevik salute was a regular feature of the UAF and other pond life who juxtaposed Brevik with Tommy Robinson
Odd that they never covered other left heroes, like mad dog Bone of the march on Boris Johnson’s home, who has now become a supporter of BLM after the Dallas cop killing.
The Trumpathon continues relentlessly. Dead Ringers,
Ronald Reagan was the last president to be so vilified, his intellect compared to that of a mole.
We can thank Reagan, with contributions from Saint Margaret, for the downfall of the USSR. A downfall greeted with thanks by hundreds of millions of people.
A downfall felt to be the worst event in history by the ALBeeboids and their mass murdering Marxist philosophy.
An event even worse than Brexit.
So I have hope that Trump, if elected, can actually take on the Ponzi scheme which is the world’s banking system. No-one else has even tried this, usually because those in a position to do so were “Democrats” operated by a ventriloquist.
A few bankers doing life would make a nice dessert after a main course of EU dissolution.
I think you’re forgetting the BBC’s hatred of Dubbya.
Reagan was a great president and a man with a true moral compass. When Palestinian hijackers murdered disabled Jewish American Leon Klinghoffer on the Achille Lauro, threw his body overboard and then negotiated with the Egyptians for a safe flight to Tunisia, Reagan was outraged and ordered the scrambling of US jets to force the plane down at a NATO base in Sicily, where the terrorists were arrested.
Barack Obama? He probably would have been in a huddle with his advisers to see if there was a way to secretly grant the terrorists refuge in the US. (I’m only half joking).
Thanks to the BBC, I now understand that the Munich Islamic terrorist was not associated with Islamic State. Not sure anyone said he was, Islamic terrorism was going long before the establishment of ISIS. But good to know, they do get blamed for rather a lot.
Moreover, he is clearly linked to Anders Behring Breivik. Erm, why you ask? Because he carried out his murders on the same day as Breivik. Oh ok. So the 7/7 bombers in Britain, who were also NOT linked to Islamic State, could be linked to Joan of Arc, as on the 7th of July 1456 she was acquitted of heresy.
Come on BBC and the German police, you have to do better than this!
How about, and I am just floating this, he was only accidentally an Islamist, perhaps on his mother’s side? He was a man who was protesting at the racist Brexit voters and Tory scum, whilst seeking to save the NHS by providing the German health service with more patients.
That makes more sense than the gobbledygook the BBC/German Authorities are peddling at the moment.
Perhaps Angela Merkle should invite another million young Muslim males into Germany to police the ones who already there?
scibbling,
Top post ! New concept, ” An accidental Islamist ” !
The BBC may well be breathing a sigh of relief, at the moment, that this may have not been an Islam-inspired terror outbreak, but I doubt the ISIS inspired carnage has come to an end, just because some nutter has wasted a few people in Germany. This is merely a sideshow, a distraction. Somewhere, soon, the Islamic slaughter will continue afresh.
“that this may have not been an Islam-inspired terror outbreak”
It’s possible, but I don’t like coincidences – particularly at a time like this. If his family originated in Greenland, Laos, or Nepal, I might just buy it, but they didn’t. Apparently he has dual German/Iranian nationality. Why dual?
Perhaps, technically, he wasn’t directly inspired by ISIS, but I can’t help feeling from his choice of target that there’s a deep anti-Western sentiment in there somewhere, and a lot of that has its origins in Islam.
I won’t be surprised if, in due course, other connections are reported. Like, for instance, the source of his Glock and numerous rounds of ammunition.
Another mentally disturbed, lonely, angry, internet using, persecuted, lone-wolf misfit from a poor background, whose school friends were not nice to him? I don’t believe anything we’re being told at the moment unless it comes from the lips of Nigel Farage, or perhaps Paul Joseph Watson.
I am not a “nationality lawyer ” but I think that Iranian / German nationality law is quite complicated and depends on parentage, place of birth, age etc. But don’t rely on the morons at the BBC to understand it !
So perhaps automatic in his situation, not a matter of choice?
As you’ve probably gathered, I was wondering why he just couldn’t go the whole hog (so to speak) and be German.
Need I ask why the Munich nutter is called David Sonboly by the BBC Red Button service…when Breitbart says his first name is ALI?
Makes a change from Muhammad I suppose…but still Muslim.
To no-ones surprise.
By tomorrow he will be John Bull Tommy Atkins.
Because it makes him sound a bit Jewish.
The BBC have invented a new word for Muslims….”Tanned”..
https://twitter.com/ToomeyWright/status/756657170783965184
Looking for link to the actual photo and heading. Is this a spoof?
G.W.F
Nothing from this end so far ? Spoof?
Maybe a spoof – Not sure – as the BBC are well known for removing items from the newsights when the content becomes untenable..
” Tanned ” ! LOL ! Just back from a holiday in Turkey. The BBC are really taking the piss now !
So called bbc now pushing the line that he ‘may have been inspired by Anders Breivik’
Not inspired by fellow islamic nutjobs,but a norwegian white supremacist
How very likely…..utter b/s
But he was receiving psychiatric help, so that’s OK.
Hang on, wasn’t the killer of Jo Cox …..
Tanned? Reminds me of a BBC blog I was on years ago. I referred to “darker-hued people” and never heard the end of it from the outraged lefties on the blog. I was as if I’d committed mass murder.
Peak PC? I like it, but, spoof or not, I’m not convinced that we’ve reached it. We’ve still got a way to go before the lefty MSM gets to the point at which the PeeCee rubbish they spout becomes totally unrecognisable as news.
We’ll know we’re there when even the most perceptive of the fine contributors to this fine site declare that the BBC, Sky and all other like-minded media have become so riddled with appeasing, dhimmi verbiage that they might as well be broadcasting in a foreign language.
It’s a quite obvious fake. Apart from using the wrong typeface (which, however implausibly, could be a result of a person weirdly overriding the BBC’s style sheets in their own browser to impose their own font in the headline of BBC articles and body text, while leaving the navigation and photo caption alone), the use of capitals on every word runs against every – genuine – headline on their site.
The capitalisation of every word is a style that you tend to see more on American sites, while in Britain the prevailing style is to only capitalise the first word and proper nouns. There are exceptions on both sides, of course, but every site tends to capitalise its headlines the same way every time.
There’s also a grammatical error in the first line of body text, which again is not impossible, but unlikely.
Jerrod,
Wow ! I have known, in my professional life, Intellectual Property Lawyers who could not hold a candle to you. LOL !
Here’s a perfect example of the BBC changing their wording to suit their new narrative…
If they had gone with “tanned” and then removed the wording later nobody would be surprised anymore..
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/23/bbc-scrubs-muslim-name-ali-munich-killer-article/
Gosh Jerrod, its almost as if you work for them?
I would agree with you. Well spotted .
But as you’ve been told over and over again, I don’t. It’s almost as if you want to make things up to suit your own narrative…
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” 😀
Don’t worry taffman. I’m sure your Mummy will explain to you how the truth works if you ask her very nicely. Such knowledge may help you cope once they stop keeping you back and you’re finally allowed to go up to big school.
‘using the wrong typeface . . .’
Talking of visual presence in its several forms, the BBC’s owes a great deal to the sculptor and typeface designer Eric Gill (1882 – 1940). In 1932, for example, he produced ‘Prospero and Ariel’, a frieze that adorns the entrance to Broadcasting House in London. And much more recently, the BBC adopted the fount Gill Sans for its graphic identity and for many of its on-screen graphics.
The latter was some time after the publication of Fiona MacCarthy’s biography, ‘Eric Gill’ (1989). Drawing on his private papers, she demonstrates that Gill exercised his purported ‘droit de seigneur’ with domestic staff, and committed incest with his two eldest—underage—daughters, Betty and Petra (one of whom he sodomised). He did the same with his sisters Angela (almost certainly), Cicely and Gladys. The same source also reveals that he performed sexual acts on his dog.
It would be grossly unfair, of course, to make any link between Gill’s historical proclivities and the present-day broadcasting institution. To the best of my knowledge, the only person in British television to have been convicted of a sexual crime is Fred Talbot, the ITV weather forecaster. Who worked for ITV. But I do sometimes find myself wondering what first attracted the BBC to the bestial and incestuous paedophile Eric Gill.
Jump,
LOL ! ” The wrong kind of typeface “. FFS !!!!!!
Good, rational, calm response – free from foot-stamping and screaming insults. Which only goes to show either:
1) Jerrod is back on his medication.
or
2) More than one person posts as ‘Jerrod’
3) I’ve not responded to one of your lunatic conspiracy theories, which inevitably causes you to throw your toys out of the pram and then accuse me of being a troll because you can’t cope with being challenged.
It’s all right fellow posters. He (it’s – mustn’t forget gender neutrality) back to normal, unless there’s two of them in the beeboid bunker?
Oh dear, Jerrod produces what appears like a constructive contribution to a discussion here, then blows it with a return to personal attacks.
I remember trying to instruct him on the difference between saying something and showing it – a logical point – but he blows it by trying to say everything.
I fear you’re not the best to person to talk about personal attacks, G.W.F. Have you made lewd comments about sex in public toilets to anyone else lately?
Only to you and your twin because I was trying to determine the level of discussion that is relevant to you. As I recall, your response was very interesting and revealing. Now do try to keep on topic.
I’ve not responded to one of your lunatic conspiracy theories, which inevitably causes you to throw your toys out of the pram…..
Ah, ‘normal’ service has been resumed. How…..comforting.
And the ‘conspiracy theories’? Please do enlighten – a few examples wouldn’t go amiss though I do appreciate it’s against your principles to engage with reality.
What a short memory you have. How about the one where you whined on about how a BBC news report about the hot weather was all to do with their supposed obsession with climate change, even though the article mentioned nothing about that topic and was an accurate report of the weather of the day?
It was only a few days ago. Surely you can’t have forgotten already?
And you understood nothing of my reply, which was to demonstrate that once the BBC have brainwashed people into believing ‘climate change’ will bring more ‘extreme weather’ (they have, but it hasn’t), all they have to do is report out of the ordinary (but not unprecedented) temperatures, rainfall etc. and those same people will automatically make the connection (though it has to be said on most occasions the BBC reporter will make that erroneous connection just in case). Job done.
That was my point.
I also added that the BBC are nothing more than a mouthpiece for the eco-socialist global warming alarmist movement, citing their fateful 28gate meeting as the point at which they committed – hook, line and sinker.
So where’s the conspiracy theory?
> And you understood nothing of my reply
I understood all right. I just think you’re talking a load of insane garbage – and bless you, you don’t have get irate when it’s clear someone thinks you’re talking a load of tinfoil hat-wearing cobblers.
@Johnnythe fish
You claim that there has been no change in severe weather events. Unfortunately you failed to cite a reliable source to justify your claim. You may say that there has been no change but the science says otherwise. The science also provides evidence to support its claim.
https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/science/extreme-weather.html
You accuse the BBC of ‘brainwashing’.
Have people been brainwashed into accepting heliocentrism?
Have people been brainwashed into accepting Germ Theory?
Have people been brainwashed into accepting the Theory of Evolution.
There are people who don’t accept those theories. Some of them even claim to be scientists. Should every natural history programme include a creationist to provide balance? Should every physics programme include a geocentrist to provide balance? Should every medical programme include a homeopath to provide balance?
The scientific consensus says that they shouldn’t. It’s exactly the same with climate change.
Except there is no ‘scientific consensus’ as you put it
No scientific consensus for heliocentrism, evolution, Germ Theory or climate change?
So called man made global warming
Even the so called bbc propagandist general Harrabin isnt even scientifically qualified
No 6
I would be interested to know how many people who post on this website have a degree in a serious science ( I am not talking about social or political ” science ” ), from a respectable University.
My BSc is Zoology from Aberdeen. Let’s here from the rest of you ?
It is certainly more than that ignorant moron Harrabin has !!! LOL !
Provide us with the names of UK based scientists who aren’t part of the consensus. Links to their published work would be helpful as well.
There is no reply option for some posts here,so heres one list of 1000 scientists worldwide who do not buy the bull
http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-over-man-made-global-warming-claims/5403284
Why not answer my question? UK based scientists and links to the papers they’ve published.
I’ve looked at the website you linked to Number 6. It features every variety of psuedoscience, medical quackery and conspiracy theory under the sun. Is that the best you can do?
Oh dear….why UK only?
Thats very xenophobic….not at all al beeb
Is it because most of the uk ones are all suckers?Dont forget that many uk scientists are open to lots of jiggery pokery and figure manipulation to fit the nonsense narrative…..plenty of form there isnt there?University of E.Anglia anyone?
Just one sentence for you to consider……..’global warming expedition ship marooned in arctic ice’
Thats arctic ice……you remember that dont you?
The stuff that has disappeared. ……or not as the case may be
Agreed Jerrod. Also, well spotted with the subtle alterations.
Still, it is funny in a grim sort of way.
Perhaps one of the cleverer hacks at the BBC might coin “man believed to have Addison’s disease goes on machete slaughter”….
Just wait.
Oooops ! Brexit now being blamed (according to a lady foreigner interviewed in her car) for the 15 hour queue on the A2 into Dover. Nothing to suggest that its because there is only ONE border control chap on duty in France (just reported) who is doing intensive passport checks.
Memo to those wanting to get to France; there are other routes across the Channel y’know, you numpties ! and NEVER go anywhere in a car these days unlike you’ve got at least a day’s supply of food and drink – that includes a 45 minute (allegedly) drive into the capital !
If the French are playing ‘Silly B…ers’ on the border checks they had better beware, because it will be France and the EU’s tourism economy that will suffer in the long term.
As long as it’s only down to the inconvenience of BREXIT and not increased security after a mass murder. That’s OK.
Perhaps they have intelligence that a ‘Brit’ is planning an attack in France?
Funny, because a reader of this site not long ago posted to ask whether it was the case that France were punishing the UK for Brexit. And the report I watched earlier, the presenter raised the point about only one border control chap checking passports!
I see Taffman has suggested this too. The comedy value of this site can’t be underestimated!
Sky are just as pathetic as so callled bbc
“We dont want to jump to conclusions’ about the attempted abduction of the RAF guy
Sickening dhimmis the lot of them
A pack of ‘lone wolves’ again ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-36873967
Now, can anyone hazard a guess who would want to kidnap a British serviceman ? The Mafia , The Ku Klux Clan or perhaps Buddhist Monks ?
My wife’s family (Mauritian) are always cussing the British Army and our foreign policy. I’d start with them – three kids, all university educated with no criminal history. Yep, definitely the Mauritians.
You should contact the police with your evidence….
Maybe that’s because they don’t want to jump to conclusions? Just a guess. I suspect if there are arrests and they turn out to be jihadis, we’ll hear about it.
So called Bbc 2 now….brexit one month on with evan the meerkat
Dont switch over to watch if you want your tv to remain intact
One stupid cow said when she saw a somalian woman racially abuse a hungarian woman telling her to go home because she couldnt get a job……this apparently was because of the language of the leave campaign
You cant make this lefty bullshit up
And apparently its not your usually constructed bbc audience which is designed to be in some way balanced
Says the meerkat
A couple of thoughts regarding the events in Munich.
Ali David Sonboly, 18, is described as a shy loner who had psychiatric problems (possibly depression) and acted alone…Ok.
Where does an 18year old boy get hold of a gun in a country with strict gun controls such as Germany?
Not only that, how does he manage to also stockpile 300 rounds of ammunition too?
He has mental health problems and in his bedroom they find literature related to mass shootings yet his parents (as far we know at this time) knew nothing of this and never sought extra help for their son?
I wonder if this going to be a case of a “shocked” family who have no idea why their son would do this?
The BBC has seen fit only to mention links to the Anders Breivik shooting. It should be pointed out that other mass shootings are available…lots of them. These links appear somewhat tenuous but, apparently, are enough to eliminate all other lines of enquiry. Very quick and efficient the German Police, aren’t they?
Yes Steve, definitely not “too early to come to any conclusions” there then.
As opposed to the attempted kidnapping by “men of middle eastern origin” earlier in the week, where we are still supposed to have have no idea what the motive was 🙄
Am I the only one who has noticed that it could be politically expedient for the authorities to actually fail to catch the ‘men of Middle Eastern origin’?
Leaving any RoP links in the air may be more to their liking than catching them and removing all doubt.
The last time I looked at the BBC News page half of it was about Munich and half was about Breivik, they seem determined to link the two, yet there is very little info about his motives. The ISIS link is also a bit tenuous as well as he’s described as of Iranian origin so that doesn’t add up in my mind either.
The thing that interests me is that had this happened in America then it would’ve been all about gun control, yet that’s strangely absent here. As far as I know no one in the media is asking the obvious question of how an 18yr old boy managed to get hold of a gun and 300 rounds of ammunition.
The BBC, conveniently omitting things, again…
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/23/bbc-scrubs-muslim-name-ali-munich-killer-article/
The BBC doesn’t seem very keen on HYS at the moment. I have noticed that following certain incidents HYS seems to disappear almost completely. Others appear to have noticed this and use any HYS to vent their fury at the BBC’s censorship dept. Here is an example where the BBC has been caught red-handed allowing comment on the most mundane issue of the moment, Vitamin-D deficiency:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-36846894
As always, the comments are very amusing and many of them have been deleted; I never knew Vitamin-D was such a controversial subject prompting comments that require censoring!
Steve Jones
“There was been a public health campaign to try to reduce rickets in black and Asian in the 1970s and early 80s,” Dr Shaw said.”We need a similar campaign now to raise awareness among the public and health professionals.”
That was one they prepared earlier ………………………………..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1936208.stm
Taffman,
Now it becomes clear!
Thanks.
BTW, how is TB doing nowadays in TH? That’s Tower Hamlets incidentally.
FFS, as if a nuclear war wasn’t bad enough, the BBC planned to keep broadcasting following an attack during the Cold War:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36865345
No doubt they would have been informing anyone unlucky enough to survive that it was their fault. I have read that cockroaches would probably survive a nuclear war, now I know what was meant.
Steve, I think you are being insulting to cockroaches.
hahah funny Steve like it – I can’t be arsed to listen to them at the moment – doubt I’ll be bothered in the event of a nuclear war. My dog is smarter than all the Breakfast autocue readers put together
‘This is the BBC broadcasting on the emergency wavelength. It is still unclear why several 115 megaton nuclear devices were exploded in London and other major European cities yesterday causing the total breakdown of law and order..it is thought to be the work of right wing extremists angry at the Brexit vote. Now it’s time for Womens’ Hour with handy hints on how to knit your own radiation curtains.
Are our Trolls ‘goal keepers’ for Al Beeb on this site ? 😉
Whoever or whatever they are, they’re certainly not known for posting examples of BBC bias.
They are not doing this sitting at home in their pants. Probably low grade BBC trainee’s straight out of Uni brainwashed to the bollox . They will look at their 40 something self in the mirror one day and cringe
Anyone seen this?
http://linkis.com/shoebat.com/2016/07/kUL41
Not until now.
Ooops.
Most conspiracy theories have an element of truth.
Holy cow – thanks Old Goat.
“The Munich Massacre Is A Complete Coverup. The Munich Shooter’s Facebook Including His Family Background Shows He Is NOT Iranian But A Syrian Islamist Pro Turkey”
If this is true or even remotely, that sheds a whole different light on things…
Interesting but the guy who wrote this goes by the name “Walid Shoebat”. According to his Wikipedia page it seems he’s a bit of fantasist. He claims to be an ex-member of the PLO before converting to Christianity and carried out a bomb attack against an Israeli bank but that appears to be a lie.
Also did a quick check on his videos and from what I can see he seems to be some kind of Christian fundamentalist nutjob.
I’d be very sceptical about believing anything he says.
Well first of all, don’t believe anything anyone says – always check for yourself. Unfortunately Ali’s facebook page has been taken down, but lots of other family members’ pages are still there. None from Iran, notably. Shoebat gets his reputation sullied intentionally by his enemies ie the PLO because he dishes the dirt on them. Wikipedia is open and therefore hard to police…
It’s possible but I’ll remain very sceptical until somebody more credible confirms it. I don’t know anything about this Shoebat character but when I see videos posted about prophecies, end times and the anti-Christ it immediately sets off alarm bells for me.
Also it would seem strange, though certainly not impossible, that the German authorities would lie about something that could be so easily disproved. If it were true that he was Syrian it would seem more likely that they’d announce it but then downplay the significance or just try to ignore it all together.
The German authorities lied through their teeth in denying that the Cologne attacks on German women had anything to do with Muslim men and refugees.
Yes, and at first desperately tried not to report it at all until it became obvious they couldn’t cover it up any longer. The fact that they were of “north African” appearance was played down and it was even suggested that the women themselves were to blame……Yeah right. But all those lies are ones that have to be debated and argued endlessly, even if the answer is obvious!
The problem I have is that in this case this would a very specific lie, either he’s Iranian or Syrian , it wouldn’t be a hard thing to find out for any reasonable journalist .so why lie about it.
The Duck,
I would never accept anything from Shoebat without checking other sources. He has posted a lot of misleading stuff, pictures of massacres from one conflict to represerent another. Rather like the BBC. But sometimes he is spot on
Surely the BBC would never sink that low! 🙂
On a more serious note, one thing I noticed on his page was that he only shows the banner of Sonboly’s alleged FB page, if there was a screengrab of the entire thing then I might not be quite so sceptical. I’ve been looking again today but no one seems to be running with his theory so far.
Mind you that’s not to say I believe the German authorities or press on this either. I think there’s a hell of a lot we’re not being told about this.
Duck,
There are no depths to which the BBC would not sink ! Nothing is too low for these scumbags !
Walid Shoebat may have fantastical tendencies, but he is a serious Christian and I`d not discount much of what he`s saying here.
Certainly, likely to be more right than wrong-not like him to pop up for something like this-so well worth checking what he`s saying.
I agree it does make for very interesting reading which is why I said I was sceptical as opposed to discounting his views entirely, but for me at least his “fantastical tendencies” as you call them cannot be ignored. I’ve been looking to see what others are saying about his theory but apart from a couple of sites reproducing the article and a few FB posts not much so far.
I also remember a certain quote from Sir Humphrey in Yes Minister…..
“We should always tell the press freely and frankly anything that they could easily find out some other way”
It would be incredibly stupid (and dangerous too) for them to lie about his background like that.
Two peas in a pod then Chris H.
So the Munich murderer seems to have been a confused loner. The sigh of relief among the bBBC ‘reporters’ is actally audible.
But wait. We hear interviews with some survivors. I can’t help noticing that traditional white Saxon Germans seem to be ‘ significantly under-represented’ .
As usual, absolutely no multi culti open door immigration narrative from the Al Beeb Far Left.
When Pop Went Epic, last night, and it’s best to avoid unless you want a face full of American racial politics, racism and ludicrously at the end, Ian Anderson on about climate change and climate refugees. Way too much focus on crappy American black acts (Marvin Gaye/Parliament excepted), rappers and some blonde woman who was on all the way through who I’d never heard of. Wakeman was alright but this had the feel of something that had been written by a BBC committee to include ‘minorities’ and ‘socialism’ (Woody Guthrie). No mention either of the only two concept albums I own (SSOASS and Operation Mindcrime) although this is hardly surprising.
Just back from the pub , heard there had been ferry congestion in Dover, with many miles of traffic backing up. Had a flick around between Sky & News 24. Noticed the Evil BBC were interviewing a Danny Boyle “English Family” . Non Hideously White Father, with a blonde bint,in the car. In the background were a bunch of grinning half – caste kids, in the back seat. I thought fucking typical, they must be a plant, or the producers had spent hours finding them! Do those fuckwitts, think we are stupid, typical BBC agenda, get an ethnic & Lenny Henry on at all costs.!
Doyle I commented on this after the first showing.You have picked up just about every point I noticed. It was yet another agenda driven piece of shite. Did they bother to mention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.F._Sorrow which was in the running for the first concept LP. Unsurprisingly I also own those 2 concept albums plus a few more.. Like you I’d never heard of the blond woman.
Dave666, I noticed your comment soon after it was broadcast but it took me until last night to watch it. The middle bit was quite good and Wakeman was as affable was always. Trouble is, all the crap I mentioned. I don’t profess to be an expert on concept albums but having watched that, I didn’t learn any more than already knew. That’s the problem with the BBC these days – you learn nothing except their agenda. I have CD’s in the thousands but those were the only two I could think of; I suppose it’s possible I might have more. A pity, Operation Mindcrime wasn’t included because for a very short period (prior to Nevermind) it looked like Queensryche were the future of metal.
I just thank God there was no rolling 24 hour news or that lot currently passing for journalists at the Beeb when the Cold War was at its highest – when the US carried out a blockade on Cuba ; Can you imagine the reporting on THAT ? on second thoughts we probably wouldn’t be here, as the stupid bastards would have caused one side or the other to press the button. And which side would they have blamed then ? Thankfully in those precarious times we had ‘sensible’ and measured reporting from both the Beeb and ITV. I often think about that tragedy at Aberfen and how the nation was in total shock, with news reporters in tears as they reported the disaster from on the spot. Would today’s glamourjournos with their sleek hair, lip gloss, trendy haircuts and beards report in a similar manner, er no, none of them have an ounce of compassion when tragedy strikes………. and now its over to the sports news.
“And which side would they have blamed then ? ”
America, of course!
There’s always the, “Tanned” ones don’t forget.
Listening to the BBC World Service I find it even more biased than Radio 4. Today a BBC journalist collaborating with the Guardian was doing a typical anti Brexit story and in all seriousness warned that ‘malign right wing’ forces were waiting to take advantage of people’s fears on immigration. Who can he mean?
Also, the World Service absolutely hate Trump. So for that reason alone I would be happy to see him win.
The World Service seems to operate completely below the radar of traditional, patriotic MPs, who should be demanding an enquiry into this now wholly biased and dysfunctional service. It is now extremely left-wing, man-man-made climate-change fanatical, islam-friendly and, yes, largely anti-West in its outlook. It is quite appalling. Up to a decade or two ago, its remit was to broadcast from a stance of promoting British and western democratic values, but ever since it decided it would become “The World’s Radio”, it wants to act as the voice for all nations. This is wrong in principal, and in fact impossible to carry out, since it no longer operates from a stable foundation of truth or morality. Others can express it much better than I, and perhaps they will on this forum.
Anyone who works shifts and has the opportunity to listen to Al Beeb World Service will soon realise that it is not fit for purpose. Why hasn’t our Tory Government taken action ? what on earth do the so-called Trustees do ? and what are they there for ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36875533
Picture of cop/model would not be out of place on the cover of 1984, the state propagandist slips ever further into the role of thought crime enforcer, stifling independent thought and free speech under the guise of the nonsensical catchall term, ‘hate crime’. The term itself is beginning to be used in such a way that it blurs the boundary between thought and deed, in BBCspeak a ‘hate crime’ is rapidly becoming anything that does not fit it’s increasingly authoritarian ‘liberal’ narrative.
The word ‘hate’ is becoming one of the most overused of our time, with Obama being a particularly heavy but also very selective user. The word hasn’t been bandied about so much regarding the recent shooting of US Police officers for instance, or the vicious stabbing of a mother and her three children in France. Or indeed the crushing carnage , mutilation and death delivered by Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel on the streets of Nice, but of course, hate is in the eye of the beholder.
Please do watch the film “Equilibrium”…….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equilibrium_(film)
It will unquestionably be the case that the machinery of the state will become much more punitive before any progression to the bright, sunlit, uplands.
The reactive nature of most systems simply cannot help be otherwise.
The flip-point transitioning to a new “equilibrium” however can be abnormally rapid so just watch the next 5 yrs with keen interest.
A belated link for anyone who hasn’t seen PJWs comment on Nice
https://www.youtube.com/user/PrisonPlanetLive
The issue he raises at about 1min30 is one that passed me by and I’m grateful he raised it, highlights both the agenda and staggering hypocrisy of most of our media. If only the BBC would give this an airing, though I fear it would have to be a very cold day indeed.
“Mr Smith said his wife, Liz, had been a victim of online abuse and claimed there was now a level of abuse, anti-Semitism and misogyny in Labour that was not there before Mr Corbyn became leader.”
In a BBC world which was not topsy-turvy, this would warrant a headline eg “Abuse levels soar under Corbyn – Smith”.
Instead we have the limp-wristed “Corbyn aide accused over office entry”, while Smith’s quote is buried at the foot of the article, fifth para from the end.