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Yes if he is white we will get the endless #Metoo and wimmin aren’t safe on the streets etc etc… - JohnC Nov 17, 01:11
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Not quite the remit of this site but I watched Channel 4 tonight (8.30 I think) about all those nasty headteachers receiving enormous salaries and benefits because their schools are academies. They had Margaret Hodge on as ex Chair of the Public Accounts Committe. They did acknowledge that Academies were introduced under Labour but they implied that this had all happened since the nasty Tories had come in. Whilst I think all these public sector high salaries are wrong, the programme did not compare HT’s pay to those of university vice chancellors, NHS chief executives or indeed local authority chief executives which I expect Headteachers see themselves. But of course all those others listed received enormous increases in their pay under Labour and as before Corbynmania hit Labour, half their members were teachers, I expect a goodly number of Headteachers are fully paid up too. Margaret Hodge, rightly pointed out that the money they were paid comes from tax payers, just forgot to mention that she doesn’t pay her fair share because it is hidden behind a Trust. No, these high payments, were all the Tories fault.
Labour and BBC forever blather on about how the Tories are against the public services.
New Labour in the Blair/Brown era did more to wreck the public services with PFI debt schemes than anything the Tories ever managed, without very much media analysis as far as I can see. Inflated salaries for the managerialists were another facet of labour rule.
I’ve seen it from the inside. Labour have a lot to answer for, and as a result they have lost many public sector employees votes for good.
Evening ladies and gents. Forgive me for jumping to conclusions, something the German interior minister, the bBBC et al. are very reluctant to do at the moment for we all know what those conclusions will be. However, I do believe I have dissected al Beeb and the MSMs next mode of attack on the islamic terror currently destroying Germany, France, etc.. More importantly how they will report it…
Having a discussion with a friend re Corbyn situation which lead me to the BBCs news site to see, very high up on al Beebs agenda today and something rather new for them, a story titled “Japan knife attack ‘leaves 15 dead'”…. I may have visited this site a few too many times recently but since when has an attack involving less than 20 people in Asia been a top news item? Hmmmmm…
Aha! I get it… We’ll now start reporting on all of the worlds terror, every last bit of it (and in true bBBC fashion we’ll involve news items that previously didn’t fit our agenda) in order to water down what is happening in Europe. F it, those europeans have had it far too good simply for being born into a peaceful part of the world… (No bBBC my grandad fought for it to be peaceful actually and got shot in the leg and who would be turning in his grave if he saw what was going on)
So there we have it – I could be wrong but I beleive we’ll be seeing this daily. You can see it in the engine room of W1A whilst we speak: F it, removing ‘terrorist’ from any part of the news story hasn’t worked, removing the word ‘islamic’ hasn’t worked, loan wolves have turned into a pack so can’t use that one any more, mental health issues (nope we’ve done that), white extremists (grrrrrr they don’t exist). “More terror?”, screams the intern. Yep lets run with it people, that’s a wrap, I’ll see you in the cocktail bar at lunch…
Prob the only thing they’ve got to be fair….
I was thinking the exact same thing last night: any mass murder will now get extreme coverage to try and show that Islamic terror isn’t so bad really, as you say it’s about all they’ve got left.
Do they think we are so stupid that we can’t tell the difference between mass murderers and terrorists? Any fool can differentiate between Brady/Hindley and the IRA, FFS.
Their contempt of the public is absolutely shocking.
Today programme, Tuesday 6.50(approx). Justin Webb said that disliking Trump was ‘understandable’ but the dislike of Hilary was harder to comprehend. I know exactly why I don’t like Hilary starting with her supposedly socialist views whilst with her husband amassing a huge fortune, their ruthlessness whilst Bill was Governor of Arkensaw, her ability to mis speak (I would call it lying), Benghazi, etc, etc. Some years ago my book club had for its book Hilary’s autobiography, oh what a perfect portrait of a ever so humble background it painted but suddenly large chunks seemed to be unexplained as her meteoric rise took place. I forget the detail and I might have the wrong company but she went from student to a director of Kraft in about one sentence. (Mind, we never chose another political biography for book club). But back to BBC bias, Justin if you are reading this, try moving in other circles other than the BBC approved ones and you might understand why we don’t like Hilary, won Brexit and don’t believe in climate change.
Yes Deborah, I heard the biased Justin Webb this morning. He wouldn’t even have to leave the BBC bubble to be better informed.
If he had only listened to interviews on PM last night he might have got why crooked Hilary is so unpopular.
Her supine, negligent response to the Benghazi attack and subsequent dismissal of any responsibility for it and her escaping prosecution for using insecure email to handle state affairs seem to be the hot buttons for those on the right.
And she’s in more bother on the left over wikileaked emails that appear to show a determined lies ‘n’ smear campaign against Bernie Sanders……the claim in mitigation is that “Russians hacked the email accounts” LOL! (That the Russians allegedly like Trump because he’s made some supportive remarks about Putin was used by the BBC to give a crooked Hilary story a booooo Trump!!! angle)
Democrats at the congress who were interviewed on PM last night were claiming that the whole nomination campaign had been rigged by the party establishment to favour Hilary Clinton. Their tone was of resignation and disillusion with the Democratic Party and the Clintons influence within it.
No wonder her opponents call her “Crooked Hilary”.
Heard the programme this morning, as you described, Deborah. But, as I predicted last week, after the disgraceful ‘interview’ by Jim Naughtie of the Donald Trump campaign representative, where he did nothing but throw insults from Mr Trump’s opponents, and challenge the interviewee to respond to what was nothing but smears, the corresponding ‘interview’ this morning with a Hillary Clinton campaign representative was an absolute ‘puff piece’.
Nothing of her dubious history was brought up as a challenge in any way and it turned out to be a segment where no tough questions were asked, no comparable innuendos or insults were made, and the campaign representative was given free reign to have a go at Mr Trump, and turn the whole segment into a party political broadcast for Ms Clinton.
Blatant Bias Corporation lives up to its name once again.
Good morning everyone
I know it’s been over a month now since the Brexit rebellion but I’m still getting a huge Wiff of sources grapes from the BBC. Fantastic! ! Please enjoy this 10 second video
BBC thrashing latest hobbyhorse to death,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36890398
“Police handling of hate crime is to be reviewed after a sharp rise in incidents following the EU referendum”
or should that be “a sharp rise in reported incidents”, yes I know it’s nitpicky, but there is a world of difference between the two. The devil really is in the BBC detail. Having thoroughly worn out the word ‘racist’ to the point where nobody cares if it’s used anymore, the BBC appears to be in search of a new word with which to silence intelligent debate and instantly take the moral high ground. Now instead of being racists anyone who dares question the wisdom of having unchecked mass migration enforced upon them by half witted pipe dreaming incompetent social engineers will be a ‘hater’.
‘…instantly take the moral high ground’
It is a very bad sign that Theresa May’s regime are now actively chasing the good write up with the BBC/Guardian, just as Cameron liked to do. From hug a hoodie to wed a bugger it was Dave’s dream to court and win the lefty media. Already we know Theresa’s nighmare is be thought of as a member of the ‘nasty party’. Maybe she and Dave ought to have joined the Liberals.
AsI,
Completely agree, there is no chance of ever winning over the BBC to anything but a liberal left world view. It simply isn’t worth compromising centre or right of centre policies to win over the BBC. The Guardian is totally irrelevant as hardly anyone other than committed liberal lefties read it, including those employed by the BBC. The most effective way of dealing with the problem of the BBC and its malign effect on British politics is not to court it , but to get rid of it.
Oldspeaker, I am proud to be a hater: I hate unprovoked violence from whatever source and those that commit it. I hate Communism, Socialism and Fascism to the point I normally find it hard to distinguish one from another. I hate the fact that the law-abiding are treated as criminals just so as to not to be seen to discrimate against genuine criminals.
I hate the lies that come out of the left-wing’s mouths – particularly the hate-filled BBC whose lies have gone from the ridiculous to the downright evil. I hate the way that the ordinary person is being bullied and cowed by the evil combination of international business, lefty organisations and the MSM.
I hate the way the left-wing abuse the English Language so that words and names mean their opposite of their dictionary meaning – e.g. Hope not Hate, Socialist Workers, “British” Broadcasting Corporation etc. (they always did this – after all how democratic was the German Democratic Republic!). I hate the propaganda that comes from the BBC etc. to tell you that blatant facts are wrong,
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I hate the casual anti-semitism and the racism of lower expectations that come from these evil bigots.
Yes I’m proud to hate all these thigs and the people who commit them. But I love truth, compassion, justice, democracy, freedom, fair play and my country.
BBC classic conspiracy mode on ‘Today’ R4.
German Party AFD (anti-invasion) has, quite rightly, made the point that Merkel now has blood on her hands in view of the recent atrocities and that connection with “recent” migrants. Enter the German Ambassador. Interviewed by Justin Webb both seeking to play down any connection with Islam which, of course, is the proverbial ‘Elephant in the Room’.
Ambassador’s opinion? Although there is only minimal links to “recent” migrants, the problem is, wait for it, ‘Mental Health’. That’s fine with me provided it is stated that all adherents to Islam are classified as possessing mental health problems. Moving on. Webb puts it to the Ambassador that the German people are worried. The German Governments’s position? Things are improving and the migrants are settling in well and beginning to integrate everything is rosy. Naturally, as soon as anyone claims the Muslims are integrating, the listener knows for a fact that they are being lied to, Big Time – Muslims simply don’t integrate – it is contrary to Islam. No mention whatever of the crime spree the ‘migrants’ are engaged in across Europe let alone Germany.
More evidence of the BBC’s bias. For proper truthful and accurate news, (with cited sources) of the crime spree and more generally what Islam and its devotees are up to in Europe, there is only one source: http://newobserveronline.com/
Appallingly biased programme currently on R4. A collection of Luvvies and Arts apparatchiks are bemoaning Brexit. There may be riots, all sensible artists thinking of moving to Berlin, what can we do to ‘educate’ the ignorant Brexit voters of Sunderland etc etc. I had to switch off.
You have to hand it to the EU. Their policy of targeting grants at universities, the arts and other elite opinion formers is very astute.
England,
I would be delighted if all the luvvies moved to Berlin and enjoyed the enrichment in Germany. Good riddance.
“all sensible artists thinking of moving to Berlin”. How appropriate that they would want to select Hitler’s capital and the capital of the country which is being violently attacked from the guests who were welcomed in by their chancellor.
The British pop music scene was more vibrant, outward looking and successful in the pre EU 60s than in the post EU 70s. Discuss.
Every Snowflake knows from the BBC that once we leave the EU they can never cross the channel again, so if we weren’t in the EU (still under construction) in the 1960s how did the Beatles manage to play in Hamburg?
#RacistAnti-racists At start of the prog a panel member described how she’d turned up and asked for the show and then been treated as if she was an audience member, cos she’s a ‘black woman’.
Well that could happen to any panel member couldn’t it ?
She said look at this panel it doesn’t represent the makeup of this CITY, well that is hardly surprising since Radio4 is not a LONDON station, it’s a NATIONAL station.
SG, the BBC follow the demography of London when they employ staff hence the appearance in news programmes particularly of a preponderance of Asians. Not only that, surely its ‘warm and cosy’ to understand that foreigners form the majority of those living in Londonistan?
Oh dear, the inevitable failure of left wing policies has it appears come home to roost, and many of them at the same time.
First the BBC are still trying to deal with the waycist & xenophobic Brexit vote.
Then there’s been the attack on the Tory party over a non existent split, only for the real split t emerge in their favourite, the Labour party. Also don’t forget the issue with anti Antisemitism within the party too.
They tried a similar approach with the Trump nomination in the US, reporting on a non existent split within the Republican party only to have the real split reveal itself with their favourites the Democrats and Saint Hilary.
There was a report that BBC fave, leftie President Hollande of France has poll ratings so catastrophically low that he is considering not even running in the coming election!
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/382655d4-5251-11e6-9664-e0bdc13c3bef.html#axzz4FV8Gs4bC
Mad Merkels open doors migration policy has been defended by the BBC and assorted lefties, on the grounds that none of the actual perpetrators were from the current batch of migrants, however they are informed that those who have arrived have encouraged, emboldened and galvanised to action others with a grudge.
The only positive news for the biased bunch is the plan by May’s left wing Tory party to oppress the people even harder by the state political correctness enforcement squad which we used to call ‘The Police’. Apparently some Pakistani woman being asked if she needs help with her packing and taking offence is a much more serious crime than even murder !
Nothing the left dreams up ever works, the problem is the mess that they leave behind them and the resentment at those who have to clean up that mess, because as we all know, the left is perfect, and it’s only the scapegoats who foil their plans.
Anyone else hear the German ambassador on BBCs Today this morning?….according to him the main issue in Germany is “not migration, but increasing levels of mental illness that we see in young people”.
The issues raised by the “far right” AfD and, classic BBC this… “even on the left, who talk about reckless migration policy” were brushed aside. The ambassador saw it as positive that these arguments are “on the fringes of politics” I think even Justin Webb was slightly taken aback at this….he dared to point out the difference “in tone” from the French.
Of course the recent killings “are a tragedy for the families involved” but, he implied, are less significant than the German states need to virtue signal that it is open to refugees…who “now they are in the country we will check them” (ha ha..as we all know, they`re also now protected by human rights legislation so are now virtually undeportable) because the “wave” last summer was “biblical” and there were too many to process then. Yes..the “wave” was in response to a political decision by mutti Merkel, and was ably promoted by the BBC.
It was the mixture of condescension, arrogance and disregard of any argument to the contrary that we have come to expect from modern, globalist politicians; It is as if they are sitting, blindfolded on a little boat (with the rest of us unblindfolded) on a vast lake of petrol, juggling with flaming torches.
I heard him and I have to agree with you, his detachment from reality was astonishing, his care for left wing policy, and his lack of care over the lives of those lost because of his policies was disgusting.
It was his complacency that really got to me,
and the memory of the media storm over one drowned boy…”who changed the terms of the debate”.
versus the people hacked to death with axes, knives and machetes, shot, blown up who are brushed aside as “tragedies for the families concerned”, and not relevent, as they weren`t carried out by more recent arrivals.
Worried about “rising levels of mental illness in our young people” Mr Ambassador? Consider “dislocation theory”; it`s been applied to addiction but could also fit increases in other mental health disorders.
A society being invaded by state invitation, against the interests of the native population by peoples whose culture is incompatible with the culture of the native population is a dislocation.
Both groups are affected by it. We used to call it “culture shock” until the multiculturalists tried to make us buy their delusion.
Totally agree with you Embolden. I listened to the German Ambassador with increasing astonishment. I know these people have to toe their governments line but this man sounded delusional. The world will be a better place when Merkel is out of office.
i have given it my considered thought
I have come to the conclusion that the attacks on westerners by barbarians is indeed a mental health problem……..but it isnt the so-called mental health of the perpetrators we should be concentrating on
oh no
the lunatic left are the ones who need to go visit a shrink to find out whats behind all this cognitive dissonance and pathological lying
Credit where it’s due, the BBC did seem reasonably quick off the mark with the Rouen siege as breaking news. Ahead even of France 24, although both were behind RT news. Still nothing on CNN from what I can see.
Breaking news on men with mental health issues; men with knives take hostages in Normandy church. Reports say that French police have shot them dead. Adrian Chiles on Radio 5 Dead has just asked the reporter if it was “a, you know, a jihadist type thing” (I kid you not).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36892785
Another terrorist attack in France. BBC spin merchants on overtime again. Wonder what they will come with this time?
It’s obvious. The priest obviously put his throat on the poor, depressed, mentally ill refugee’s blade because he was a white supremacist who hates Muslims and wants to give Islam a bad name. And he’s far right. And supports Marine Le Pen.
… after which the Islamophobic police shot the Muslims in an extrajudicial execution.
So Muslims are the real victims once again.
I don’t know about you, but my sympathy has worn very, very thin.
“Ignoring their Human Rights”?
RT News reports that the parish priest had his throat cut and is dead.
https://www.rt.com/news/353311-france-hostage-church-rouvray/
http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2016/07/26/01016-20160726LIVWWW00086-prise-d-otage-en-cours-dans-une-eglise-de-saint-etienne-du-rouvray-pres-de-rouen.php#758443
French press reports priest’s throat cut (dead) and one other injured. 2 suspects shot when they left the church.
Will this be enough to make the Priest a saint, as he was clearly a martyr?
Attack on a church in France. I wonder if the BBC will report this as a hate crime against Christians. I suspect not.
I also wonder if the usual suspects are involved. I suspect very much so.
I think we’re approaching the stage where it doesn’t matter what the police, governments, or MSM think. People are beginning to take a serious interest because they are worried – particularly those with families. When concern reaches a certain point, it will take its course regardless, and it won’t be pleasant.
There are millions of people in Europe who simply shouldn’t be here. It’s becoming difficult for governments to spin their way out of that very simple, basic fact.
Merkel and quite a few others already have blood on their hands.
Probably home grown French-Syrians who were driven mentally ill by the sound of church bells ringing.
I’m just waiting for the usual response…….The muslims asking for 24hr protection for their leaders because of the backlash that’s going to occur.
But first the BBC will create an article called “What’s it like being a Muslim in Rouen?”
Likely to be read out on air by a carefully chosen descendant of Robespierre dressed as Henry the VIII, with Mishal Husain and Tim Wilcox waiting to analyse in the wings whilst doing their knitting.
I think we already knew that there is something seriously wrong with the way that people are selected for these public bodies, including of course, the BBC:
Outrage as British Council boss blasts Prince George on a post branding him a ‘d*******’
The main issue as I see it is not her republican views, but the way that she chose to express them. He’s a child and this woman is supposed to be a professional for God’s sake.
Furthermore, it is in many ways typical that she has immediately bought into this obnoxious “white privilege” bullshit.
Obviously this was the final destination in her long march through the institution. If her views reflect current thinking within the British Council, to even a small extent, she must go. In fact I doubt if we need the organisation anyway. The danger is that she would be replaced by some similar parasitic rubbish like Bonnie Greer.
Her comment sounds a bit like “hate” to me. But then the Left has always been rather good at that.
Apart from anything else , this is child abuse. This disgusting woman should be sacked. The British Council, like the BBC, is a publicly funded Left wing propaganda machine which serves no useful purpose and should be scrapped.
87% think she should be fired, on the Express’s online poll.
Can’t believe the attitude of the British Council saying it was on a private account, implying that it’s none of their business. Pontius Pilate.
The galling thing as well, is that this bitch is apparently paid 80K a year of OUR money to spout this shit.
Throat cut. So many knife attacks with reported throats cut. I hate to be gruesome but are these attempted beheadings?
This aside, the media must be addressed, especially the BBC which, it is hard to conclude that it is not a terrorist supporting organization. Just wait for the BBC reports to filter through their political committee.
“I hate to be gruesome but are these attempted beheadings?”
Reasonable question, given how they covered up torture and mutilation at the Bataclan.
Even in today’s age of desensitisation thanks to the internet and availability of television, what happened in that Bataclan that night actually frightens me and makes my blood run cold.
These animals must be sent back where they came from.
Or, maybe GWF, simply Halal killings? That would explain everything!
It is undoubtedly true that there is a big but under-regarded problem of mental illness. On the other hand very few people with mental illness go around harming others. Those in the west who do, as has been well documented here, do seem usually to have in common some connection with the religion of peace. Why is it that the BBC does so much to avoid saying this?
I agree there is much mental illness, but the point I want to make here is a logical point. Explanations have stopping points. For example we say that a killing is wrong because it was murder (not self defence) but we don’t need go on to explain why murder is wrong.
Likewise – to establish that the terrorist was a muslim, who shouted allah akibar, attended a mosque, killed in a fashion advocated by muslims in many parts of the world (bombs, be-headings, trucks into pedestrians) is by itself a sufficient explanation. We don’t need to sanitise it with reference to mental problems, climate change or additional explanations..
I come here to ask a serious question. One related to everyone’s favourite religion, Islam.
To cut a long story short, I’m not sure if I feel comfortable interacting with Muslims anymore. I know that it’s #notallMuslims who commit these atrocities, but Muslims do have one thing in common – they subscribe to a death cult that calls for the humiliation, torture and murder of people who don’t subscribe to their death cult. A Muslim who is seemingly friendly and respectful could well be acting in such a way to gain favour. I’m sure we all know of taqiyya. It’s perfectly acceptable for a Muslim to lie and seemingly act un-Islamic to further the cause of Islam.
I don’t want to tar the whole religion’s followers with one brush, but the actions of an increasing number of “refugees” in Europe are leading me to do this. I utterly despise Islam and what it stands for. It’s demonic and satanic. Calling it “medieval” is a compliment. Medieval Europe was leaps and bounds ahead of these savages.
Is this a reasonable frame of mind or am I overreacting? I find Muslims more and more untrustworthy. It’s just not possible to know when they are telling the truth or lying to further the cause of Mohammed. In World War II, any German sympathisers were rounded up. Anyone with a German accent was rounded up. But in this fight, the enemy is so much more hidden. Why, then, are we giving Muslims the benefit of the doubt? We just don’t know who’s a ticking time bomb.
Regards
MoreHamHead,
A couple of years ago I would have disagreed with you. There is too much evidence emerging daily for me to hold my former views . Bill Maher said that with so many rotten apples it is time to investigate the entire orchard.
I think your reaction is entirely reasonable.
Your comparison with WWII is a good one. German losses were severe and I’m sure that most of them were perfectly decent people, but we killed them anyway. Decisions had to be made at the time, without the benefit of many decades of hindsight and analysis.
I see a situation developing rapidly (I used to think in terms of 20-50 years) where governments, not necessarily composed of the people in charge now, will also have to make “difficult” decisions. Civil war can be very ugly but I fear that is what this is leading to. Warnings have been issued and ignored. Those responsible for the current developing situation will have blood on their hands and history, if we are still lucky enough to be writing it, will not judge them kindly.
I completely agree,some two years ago now I made the decision to stop all financial dealings with followers of the ROP. I don’t purchase anything from mudslime establishments including curry houses and I do enjoy a curry but now cook them at home for myself. I also run my own business and will not deal with them.
An insignificant gesture some might say but at least I know that none of my money ends up funding Jihad via zakat.
The problem with Islam is what I’d call the 1 percent rule. I percent of it’s adherents may support violence against infidels and say 1 percent of that 1 per cent will commit such acts . With around 3.5 million Muslims in the UK and rising fast, that’s enough to cause an unmanageable law and order problem. Just do the maths. We cannot rely on MI5 , GCHQ and the police to contain this problem. And why should we have to? Our culture as well as our lives are under threat. The MSM must stop living in la la land and be honest about this.
Islam spread due to military conquest and violence, not proselytising in the manner of St Paul and the Apostles. It’s adherents do not give the religion up to any meaningful extent. So the remorseless maths of Islamic extremism work their way through, destroying western life and culture.
Yes England, very much so.
And it’s not just the 1% who actually carry out attacks – what about the 24% who support them?
As you say the Muslim population of the UK is somewhere over 3m.
According to the Comres poll of British Muslims for Radio 4, 24% think that acts of violence against those who publish images of the Prophet can sometimes be justified. One quarter of 3m is 750,000 people.
According to the same poll, one in nine (11%) British Muslims feel sympathetic towards people who want to fight against western interests. 11% of 3m is 330,000 people.
This is not just a theoretical problem, it is a situation we should be very, very concerned about. As even the BBC reported recently The number of foiled/prevented/actual terrorist attacks in the UK is the highest in Europe.
As repugnant as it might seem, it is hard to see how we can resist calls for internment (as others have already suggested) or repatriation: self-defence is not only a right, it is a duty.
The only way the lefty InsaneStream Media, of which the BBC is such a fine example, will ever report accurately and speedily on Islamic terrorism is when instructed to do so by their Islamic masters.
“Priest killed in French church attack”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world
Damn those French churches.
“Damn those French churches.”
Like that statue of Cecil Rhodes that was attacking blacks at Oxford.
Must be a rising golem problem.
Rebecca Jones at 11am
It has been reported that a priest has been killed after 2 men armed with knives took several people hostage in Northern France. According to a police source between 4 and 6 people been held by the assailants South of the City of Rouen. Local media claims the hostage takers entered the church while mess was taking place. They have now been killed
by security forces, that has been the latest report we have.
The alarm was raised when one of the worshipper escaped. French prosecutors said they are treating the initial investigation as terrorism inquiry.
Well Daniel Boettcher, what can you say about it?
It seems this hostage situation is now over, ended about an hour ago, but the area is still cordoned off. From local media pictures you can still see large number of police and other emergency vehical at the site. Now this happened during a service, in a suburb in Rouen, French official saying that they
killed 2 attackers, french television saying that shots were heard after the police arrived. It seems the 2 attackers were armed with knives as they took hostages inside the church.We don’t know exactly how many but it has suggested that between 4 and 6 people have been taken hostage and it has been reported that a priest among the people taken hostage has been killed with a blade and another person
has been seriously injured. The french minister and the french president are on their way to the scene. At the moment we don’t know the motif of the 2 people behind this event.
France is of course on a high state of alert after the attack in Nice where 84 people were killed. But we don’t know at the moment what the motif might have been behind this attack but we have been told that France’s anti terrorist prosecution unit said that it has now been taken over the investigation.
it is now 11.05 and the I word has not been mentioned ONCE…..
I am joined now by the security correspondent Frank Gardner, Frank I don’t know if you have any more information but it was interesting what Stefan someone was saying there that they were shouting Daesh as they went into the church.
Well, it is an odd thing to shout, because the Islamic State don’t like when they call them Daesh, which is the Arabic acronym for Isis, they don’t like it because it limits them geographically as their aspirations are global, but whether or not it is true it certainly looks like an Islamist attack.
OMG 1.06 the I… word appeared !!
Now it is too early to say certain, and remember the mistakes were made in assumptions made in Oslo which turned out to be Andres B, the lone extremist, so called far right extremist, likewise with Munich, the shooting in Munich in February which at first sight looked like a rampage by Isis supporters but turned out to be a lone person with mental problems.This one I think might be different as they have chosen a church, that they have killed a priest, it certainly looks like an ISIS motivated attack. But let’s wait and see exactly what happens.
Well we have news from BBC monitoring now that anti terrorism judges are to take on the investigation according to a spokesperson. It would seem to chime with what you are saying.
It seems the French treating it as a terrorism event.
OMG
You could not make this up even if you tried. Recruitment must be like this at the BBC: can you please waffle about a serious terrorist attack without ever mentioning the word Islamist for 5 minutes and the job is yours !!
The BBC – becoming more creative as every week moves on!
The left never cease to amaze me. Yet another (probably) Islamic atrocity carried out on European soil. The left fear the rise of the right in return.
It’s enough to make you vomit.
France latest: Gross over-reaction of French police. Two student Halal butchers passed oral and written sections HNC (EU equivalent). Mistook venue for practical exam with tragic consequences. Local imam set to complain to authorities. Hollande makes TV apology for ‘serious police breech of immigration protocols’. Frank Gardiner concerned for mental state of both corpses. Ends.
MHH …. I’m with you on this. I get increasingly angry listening to the likes of Yasmin Alibhai -Brown, the many spokespeople for the Council of Muslims, and Islamic representatives who appear on debate programmes like Sunday Morning Live / The Big Question etc, – when they all spout the same mantra, that these atrocities are not in the name of Allah, – er perhaps not according to them, BUT it certainly is to the rest of them ! A book called ‘While Europe Sleeps’ envisaged the scenarios we are now witnessing and worse, so all the ‘solidarity’ crap and politicians linking arms is only fodder for the cameras. We are at war, simples, and just like the Orientals were rounded up in the States after the bombing of Pearl Harbour, then a similar exercise should be considered in Europe.
The Germans here were rounded up too during WW2 and sent to the Isle of Man, that is not something, I would speculate, which the Manx would welcome if we tried to send them our current enemy aliens.
Another step towards the election of Presidente LePen I would think
One can but hope.
The BBC and mainstream politicians keep insisting that the current spate of terrorism ‘has nothing to do with religion’.
Just maybe by the targeting of a Christain Church and ritualised murder of a Priest the terrorists might, just possibly, be trying to tell us that it is actually religion that is uppermost in their minds.
ASISeeIt, I have been pretty shocked by this latest outrage. It puts me in mind of the killing of St Thomas A Becket as he prayed in Canterbury Cathedral. If anything good can possibly come out of such horror it will be to serve as a wake up call to France and the rest of Europe about what is really going on. ‘That which I have preached, I will seal with my blood’. (John Rogers, first Protestant martyr).
Cranmer (Archbishop) – St Thomas a Becket, John Rogers……. something historical going on here ???
Ninety-two year old priest murdered by followers of islam. Is there anyone outside of the BBC and the lefty islingtonists who cannot see that this is soon coming to Britain? And is there anyone inside government who sufficiently appreciates the danger we are in, that adequate protection of our borders is immediately put into place? France, in particular. is going to be in serious conflict very soon, and when Le Pen gets elected, restrictions on the muslim community must increase markedly, and many will seek to leave that country. What’s the betting May, Rudd, Hammond et al. will still be weakly saying “yes, we do have plans for increasing border controls” when all this kicks off. As I have advised many times, do not let the UK be the last country to put controls on muslim movement, otherwise the country will be irretrievably lost (without a major civil war and a coup by military patriots).
Who now possibly criticise Trump’s stated intention to stop all Islamic immigration until they understand and get a grip on the situation?
I’m sick of this media concept of ‘radicalisation’ as if these people have had magic jihad dust sprinkled over their heads while they sleep therefore implying that they are not really responsible for their actions. Rant over.
Gunman shoots doctor at Berlin clinic, anti-terrorist unit at scene – Bild
Published time: 26 Jul, 2016 11:34
Edited time: 26 Jul, 2016 11:50
A doctor has been shot at a medical clinic in the German capital Berlin, according to the Bild newspaper, who are also reporting that the gunman later shot and killed himself.
The incident took place in the Steglitz district, located in the city’s southwest, at around 11:00 GMT.
DETAILS TO FOLLOW
Is this ever going to end?
Obviously mentally ill. Has the BBC reported this yet ?
Nah, nothing at all. Then again the German news now saying that it was not terror related.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/berlin-hospital-shooting-gunman-shoots-doctor-in-german-clinic-a3304841.html
As the BBC would say, who wouldn’t have thoughts of such violent actions while sitting in the chair during root canal …..
Only when every Muslim has been rounded up and dumped back in their own Islamic controlled countries . Perhaps building a citadel like in the film Escape from New York, where they can blow themselves up to their hearts content.
Brissles,
Just call them safe spaces where they can go to avoid the backlash against the misdeeds of the fellow RoPers. They can be accompanied with their fellow travelers from the universities and left sects
On a lighter note. Gays and blacks for Trump.
It will be a cold day in Hell when the BBC show this.
Yesterday we had “FTSE 100 slides” when the index was just 0.3 % down on the day and still within a few points of a 12 month high. So what language would the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation make of the following:
Italy (MIB) 28% down over 12 months, Spain (IBEX) 24% down over 12 months, and France (CAC 40) 11 % down over 12 months. Note these declines have not taken place since the BREXIT vote, but represent a steady loss of investor confidence in these markets despite efforts by the ECB to boost confidence by cutting interest rates. And what of the one bright star, the DAX ? Well this is down by 8% over 12 months. Given the fatal structural faults in the euro-zone monetary system , it is no surprise that international investors are wary of these markets.
And FT100 recovered by 0.28 % already today . That should be big news for the BBC.
For some reason they seem to have lost interest in the FTSE250 which was flavour of the month a week or two back. Nothing to do with the fact that it’s doing quite well at the moment, obviously…..
Quite surprising in the wake of disaster, don’t you think? As we said yesterday, unlikely the BBC would regard this as newsworthy.
BBC News report, every hour, of every day, of every week, of every month:
BBC News reporter glances up from her Guardian: ‘So Frank Gardner what links the Muslim attacks in Germany, the Muslim attacks in France, the Muslim attacks in Belgium, the Muslim attacks in Spain, the Muslim attacks in Britain, the Muslim attacks in Canada, the Muslim attacks in the US, the Muslim attacks in Australia, the Muslim attacks in Pakistan, the Muslim attacks in Saudi Arabia, the Muslim attacks in Russia, the Muslim attacks in India, the Muslim attacks in Kenya, the Muslim attacks in Tunisia, the Muslim attacks … (ten minutes later) … and the Muslim attacks in Denmark?’
Frank Gardner: ‘before we jump to any conclusions we must analyse the cases individually. There is no single connecting issue. I have scratched my head for years looking at these attacks and cannot see a single connection.’
‘Indeed, so why are you paralysed?’
‘I was shot in a Muslim Attack in Saudi Arabia. There is no connection between the attacks you listed and the one on me.’
News Reporter: ‘So anyone who dares say different is a murderous Brexit, bigoted, uneducated, Daily Mail reader.’
‘Exactly yes, With Brexit voters we can always jump to conclusions without evidence. Now excuse me, there has been another Muslim attack in France today. Gosh, if only I could see what connects them all because until we can discern the cause we cannot tackle the problem.’
(This interview will be repeated every day for the next millennium)
scribbling – Quality !!
Ha! After the beeb’s joyful article about the Malawian ‘hyena’ (paid to have sex with teenage virgins), Sky now have an article reporting that he’s been arrested. He’s also HIV positive and knew it. Lovely chap.
http://news.sky.com/story/man-with-hiv-held-for-sex-ritual-with-100-girls-10513057
Looby,
The BBC website describes him as a “sex worker ” !
But in the corridors of the BBC TV Centre they describe him as a “lucky buggar”.
How can loopy liberals read this and still insist that “all cultures are equal.”
Lol, yes the article had that vibe through it – like ‘isn’t it fun that he’s ALLOWED to do this!’ But on the other hand….no-one mention Jimmy Savile, and Gary Glitter has been erased from music history.
Looby,
The BBC report was also racist as it implied that this was some kind of African tradition and therefore ” cultural ” and ok. No hint that many Africans condemn these primitive practices. It seems to me that the BBC underlying assumption is that you can’t expect black Africans to follow white Westerners standards. In my book, that is racist.
I agree with you Grant, but sadly, rightly or wrongly, there are so many inferences that many black Africans are corrupt, many black Africans are the main poachers and hunters of wild life, many black Africans are the main carriers of HIV, and many black Africans are responsible for many of the telephone/computer scams that we experience in the UK, and not forgetting the BBC investigative progs that show many black African/West Indians involved in fraudulent benefit scams.
Brissles,
Yes, I know, I live in Africa ! But the point I was making is that it seems to me that the BBC go easy on these practices. That , in my view is patronising and a form of racism .
I think you were right on this patronising racialist shit – But I think there was another element to it.
It seemed a bit reminiscent of the Victorian days when cultured members of society when working overseas bought lithographs of ” tribal woman ” ostensibly for “research” purposes but in reality for purposes of titillation.
You can imagine the conversation in the editing suite (out loud) “How sad and disgusting”
Then quietly to themselves (phwoor – wouldnt mind a bit of that!)
I heard some of the programme when I was driving to a site and I did think some of the details were a little too graphic. Bearing in mind many of the “lucky recipients” of the Hyenas were in fact children I think the they tried to paint an almost sympathetic picture of the Hyena making him to appear a victim too.
Maybe I am being the weird one here but at the time it did truly strike me as trying too hard not to be judgemental and in the interests of balance having too many details.
I guess we should not be too surprised in the light of the editorial prowess employed when dealing with the Saville and child abuse scandals. Our national treasure of a broadcaster obviously likes to play fast and loose whenever sex is involved.
Oh yeah!
Oaknash,
Yes, quite !
Meant to add
Sex abuse victims are only only considered victims when they have passed some arcane BBC Victim test which often bears only a passing resemblance to normally acceptable morality.
If they fail to pass the test (such as in the Rotherham case) They are given recognition in lip service only or not at all.
BBC = World Class Broadcasting!
Just tuned on BBc after 48 hours of not watching it. I didn’t miss it. The latest atrocity < The BBc dance around the subject again. In between they run on the warpath against hate crimes https://next.ft.com/content/e0d9f39c-52a7-11e6-9664-e0bdc13c3bef Yes the murderous odious evil that is hate crime. Yes there are so many they have to re- visit the stories they ran on the subject a month ago. The dubious fire, the dubious placards, the dubious white powder. So don't criticise, don't look or the Stasi will be kicking in your door,
BREXIT impacts. Remember Brussels Broadcasting telling us we should disregard the FTSE 100 (too many big companies with foreign earnings), it was the FTSE 250 which was the true barometer of the dire impact of BREXIT and the 250 was diving. Well guess what, the 250 is doing fine and is just 2% down on its level one year ago. Guess they’ll have to find another index….
BBC thinking goes something like this.
If there is a problem in Britain, let’s identify it and then make it many times worse. Let’s do as much harm to the country as is conceivably possible.
Here is an example
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36621822
Will there be a referendum for a united Ireland?
Why promote this unless for the purposes of ill will and malice.
But there again, the British broadcaster is after all anti British, pro Muslim, anti Isreal, pro Palestine, anti Trump, pro Clinton,anti Christian, pro Muslim.anti white, pro black, anti Brexit, pro Remain,anti right wing, pro left wing……this list goes on and on and on.
Almost everything they support I support the opposite. It’s almost Pavlovian.
Is it any wonder why I hate everything the BBC stands for. It’s come to the point now that if I hear a negative slant on any world political issue I support the other side without thinking! It’s automatic!
R4 12:08pm #Everydayleftyism Saira Khan said (direct audio)
“I wanted to go to uni, but I hadn’t made the grade.
But I managed to go down to Brighton and see the admissions tutor and blag my way in, with a bit of story cos middle classes love that thing ..I said ..my parents are immigrants , so I have a lot to bring to this univesity, multi-culturalism and all that …he loved it and they let me in”
Previously R4Today prog had ended by at 8.54 on boat on trip around Norwest Passage (hint it’s still full of ice so they are travelling real slow)
The prog said this was the first of series of diary items.
They failed to mention the GreenBlob PR agencies send such trips to the Arctic every year ..and every year they fail and get rescued.
It was the last 6 mins …………. search PolarOcean on Twitter
Diary was with David Hempleman-Adams ….Met office guy Dr Ed Brockley
Interesting 2 blogs quote a DavidHA blogpost which (disappeared)
You are right. Have they ever got through?
No greens have got thru recently
other people do get thru with ice breakers
an people did manage to get thru like 50 years ago very occasionally
It’s thought that the 1970’s era chosen for the beginning of graphs was a particularly highpoint for graphs ..and that in the long term the variance has been quite big.
Any one got anything about a ‘Security Cordon’ set up in London ?
Reported – “A Gas leak”?
“The Guardian has developed this incredibly annoying habit of, not just being nakedly politically biased, but being blatantly biased in a smug, patronising, fact-free sneering way that puts people off whatever they’re supporting and makes people sympathise with whatever they’re opposing.”
The above is from comments to a Guardian article which was supporting Hillary Clinton.
Come on Trump.
I have agonized for decades over why the Guardian gets up my nose and there it is in an easy to digest nutshell. Thank you for sharing TruthSeeker.
And they are paying for it. ‘Guardian Media Group hit with record £173m loss – FT.com
Guardian Media Group will this week reveal a higher than expected full-year LOSS!… (July 24, 2016) and ‘(FT) – Guardian Media Group will this week reveal a higher than expected full-year operating loss of £69m as the owner of The Guardian newspaper battles … ‘GMG’s total pre-tax loss will hit £173m as the group belatedly writes down about £80m in the value of …’
Ironically for the ‘Grauniad’ News its not BREXIT – that ‘done it’ them – but (oh the irony) the BBC co-conspirator itself (redistribution of news content without paying for it (has been made several times by the DG who’s not best pleased with the BBC ’embrace’) as the number of BBC press Ads (BBC wierd coded job adverts do not add-up to £173 million quid LOSS after the BBC have already knicked all the (top?) news stories and paid (Euro) peanuts for BBC job worthies Ads). More (NUJ nut journalist for the BBC (for hire)! Have we not got enough already in the media?
24th January 2016 (no Brexit here, no Brexit here!)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/12120006/Guardian-to-slash-costs-by-a-fifth-as-losses-mount.html
26th July 2016 But here we are again ‘post Brexit’ (and dear me! – its all gone, gone, gone where has all the (EU) promo money gone! (What a predicament). Austerity! Lefties in dire militant crisis!, Labour in Corbyn denial crisis, Only the BBC in pig-swill fragrant clover, all paid for by the UK taxpayer (who all would rather wish they didn’t have to). The Guardian in crisis. Note: the picture on this website below and smile…, of course they blame it on BREXIT!
http://www.teaparty.org/guardian-media-group-hit-record-173m-loss-178267/
BBC Radio news seems oblivious that attacks attacks by Muslims on Christian worshippers have been happening world wide for years.
Also again the BBC is predictably warning how there could be a right wing backlash.
They could be right !
What is amazing is how limited any ” right wing backlash ” has been so far !
“Also again the BBC is predictably warning how there could be a right wing backlash.”
If only. It’s a shame the BBC (and others) aren’t as interested and concerned for the very real and tangible threats posed by their favourite ideology as they are for their own personal phantom fears of the (increasingly much needed) “right wing”.
Not really BBC related but do you ever get the impression that Sadiq “taqiyya” Khan might have been placed as major of London in the hope it will help reduce the odds of Islamic attack in the city (at least in part anyway)? Just thinking.
Also, new registered member of the site though I have been observing its activity for a couple of years or so now. Thought I’d share that.
Just a theory of mine but I think Mr Khan is destined for higher things. The most successful – according to the BBC – mayor London has ever had, emerges to become leader of the Labour Party following its near self destruction. He will unite all factions. His dad was a bus driver in case that has escaped attention. He will combat a Tory Party disillusioned after the Appeaser blocked Brexit and let in millions of RoPers who will vote for him
Makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand-up. Very likely you’re right as well. Short-term effect is it becomes a beacon to the Islamic world that the capital of a major Western power now has a significant Muslim figure in a position of power. The longer-term objective is to press this development even further.
Like people keep saying, you couldn’t make this stuff up.
Oh god – I really hope you’re not right G.W.F. but the sense in me is saying you are and as an actual londoner (yes we do exist but admittedly in fear) I have seen enough of my city changed forever and it breaks my heart
Oh god – I really hope you’re not right G.W.F. but the sense in me is saying you are and as an actual londoner (yes we do exist but admittedly in fear) I have seen enough of my city changed forever and it breaks my heart
Here comes Mr. Jordan… again…
https://bbcwatch.org/2016/07/26/bbc-to-review-its-complaints-system-again/
Those less convinced of the BBC’s commitment to transparency may feel any adjustments are more likely to be in ways to ensure that whatever slips from the BBC’s grasp to the already safe pair of hands that is OFCOM, it is as anodyne as their filter system can make it before handover.
Ms. White is well named, and the DCMS has washed it hands of any sensible accountability.
WARNING ALL! Don’t tune in to C4 news their bias is absolutely disgusting… So the main stories are 1. Germany is cracking down on migrants… story running FROM THE MIGRANTS SIDE!!!! A moderate migrant claiming how he feels he has “had his back turned on him by the german authorities”… Better than your back literally stabbed mate.
Standard cover(ing-up), god forbid true coverage of the terror attack today and just more of the same. Although there is a buried realisation from the MSM that something needs to be done about the ROPs true colours… Going to see how long I can have it on for, maybe that can be a new game to play, turn on BBC or C4 and see how long you can last
I honestly think that Channel 4 is even more seditious and disgusting as the BBC. Channel 4 excels and revels in making trashy shows for trashy people. Naked Attraction, anyone? A dating show where the “contestants” are NAKED. They even showed someone getting an erection. The channel is popular among brainless dullards, hard left university students and Green party supporters.
All one and the same I suppose.
Yes, this is the type of channel and organisation I want showing me the news of the world.
JESUS CHRIST…. 15 mins I can’t do it anymore. The classic “muslims are the real victims” is the narrative, when in actual fact John Snow was asking some very poignant questions about why we can’t hear voices from the islamic faith condemning these attacks…. I’ve been following the media very closely in the last few weeks and just like John Snow I too haven’t heard a single voice from the islamic world come out. And lets be honest guys we’d F ing know about it if they did, Al Beeb would have a field day over it
John Snow sounds like a far right Islamophobic extremist to me and I think he’ll be sat on Channel 4’s naughty step for a while.
It got worse. Apparently hate crime in this country is increasing and it is all the fault of those brexiteers. if anything C4 is the true fantasy news of the day now.
Is anybody still listening?
Everyone-else-to-Muslim hate crime fatalities in the past year in Europe: 0
Muslim-to-everyone-else hate crime fatalities in the past year in Europe: lost count. 82 just last week.
Chance of this being reported on al-Beeb or Channel 4: 0
TBT, we never will hear or see any table thumping passion from any Muslim condemning these attacks. They’ve had every opportunity since 9/11 but the silence is deafening. We DO hear constantly though that “the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving”, but that sound-bite is wearing extremely thin in light of recent events. I expect the Beeb are now contacting all the Muslim ‘spokespeople’ for appearances on various debate programmes, c’mon Alibaba-Brown lets hear what you’ve got to say !
Change of topic but I have still gnawed through my own legs because of the deceitful, devious, white man hating lunatics at Al Beebistan…
Fort Myers shootings anyone??!!…….
…..it’s completely gone!! Youngsters shot to shit in a nightclub!! Is there anything worse for a civilisation than seeing their young butchered???…..
….oh wait a minute… Suspects are black….. Which means the whole racist “Only Black lives matter” movement have protested and chanted about killing innocent young black kids right??… Surely this IS the time to get on the streets and protest……..
….absolutely nothing. Not a sound. Nothing from the traitorous Al Beeb because it tears apart their “white people are the cause of the worlds problems” narrative. Nothing from the race baiting, racist, white man hating lunatics screaming “we want dead cops”…..
Move along. Nothing to see people ?
Vary salient point TTP – my more conservative side of my brain is asking do the establishment want an all out race war – because I could give some strong arguments for why it would appear so. Sad more than anything, especially since us brits (contrary to MSM narrative) love british people of all factions, I’m a londoner and some of my best mates are of islamic and west african heritage (not the type Al Beeb would report on as they share exactly the same views as me) so WTF is going on? I hate to quote old trumpy but something is very wierd and thank god for the internet bringing people like ourselves together to question this madness
Why oh why did I click on BBC Radio 4 as I was driving back from friends?
Cultural response to Brexit – a short version from this morning’s SPECIAL mind altering discussion.
How the Brexit should be addressed by the “creative community”. I just love these discussions as they are all seem to be expert in the arts and creative industries and …..all that counts to most of us, as well as what on online we heard from many listeners ( carefully selected ) ‘cos all selective opinions matter at #culturalresponse, the the top trending thingy on Twatter.
NOT ECONOMISTS and POLITICIANS, nah… not the balanced ones anyway…
They reopened the # toptrendingtwatterpost to read out more responses from those who no longer able to milk the EU gravy train and need to move to Berlin.
why oh why do I do this to myself……