The BBC’s Frank Gardner knows what is wrong in Germany…it doesn’t provide enough mental health services for people…..
What drives individuals to commit mass killings?
Even the headline is disingenuous and intentionally misleading because the real problem is Islamist terrorism and immigration not random, ‘senseless’, murders by individuals…Gardner is trying to claim there is no overarching problem, it is an individual issue compounded by German government neglect.
Gardner has a psychiatrist tell us:
It is possible to find a common thread in the past history of murderers. He believes the clues are all in their dysfunctional backgrounds.
“It is a psychiatric problem,”
Curious how in contrast the BBC has scrubbed from the record that the killer of Jo Cox, Thomas Mair, had a well documented history of mental health problems and that the night before he killed Jo Cox he had sought help and been turned away. The BBC in that case preferred to ‘report’ that the murder was the result of the Leave campaign’s immigration ‘policy’ that incited a Far Right activist to kill. Why do they ignore Mair’s problems but tell us ‘mental health’ is the underlying problem for Muslim’s who kill? Odd how the BBC can link reasoned and measured discussion on immigration to a killing but won’t link an ideology that says kill all non-Muslims to terrorism.
What about all the many thousands that also have mental health issues but don’t go on to be terrorists? There are many levels of mental health problems…from stress to depression to murderous rages….so when Gardner say they were receiving help just what were they being helped with? Look at the Syrians on Bute now whinging about their new home and saying they are depressed….should we put them on a watch list? Is there some other contributory factor Gardner might like to consider?
Islam perhaps? Immigration of people who have a totally different culture and outlook on life and so will find it very difficult to integrate into a Western society…leading to self-alienation and possibly radicalisation and terrorism as they decide to revert to their own culture and religion….some choose to wear ever more distinctly Islamic clothing and take the war to the West through the media, law and politics, others will decide violence is the answer…there is no difference between the two other than the methods used…but for some reason the media and politicians thnk only the violent ones are a problem….their aim is the same…more Islam.
Gardner tells us:
Yet initial suspicions of an IS link to last Friday’s shooting rampage in a Munich shopping mall have been replaced by something closer to an individual, non-political grievance by the perpetrator. His killing spree bears a striking similarity to recent gun rampages by disaffected teenagers at US college campuses.
Likewise, investigators have concluded that the killing of a Polish woman by a Syrian refugee in Reutlingen is not connected to terrorism.
So there were ‘initial suspicions of an IS link’ regarding the Munich killings? Could have fooled me as the BBC absolutely refused to publish those links.
But what about this?:
His killing spree bears a striking similarity to recent gun rampages by disaffected teenagers at US college campuses….Likewise, investigators have concluded that the killing of a Polish woman by a Syrian refugee in Reutlingen is not connected to terrorism.
No mention of immigration or Islam…Gardner diverts us onto Mental health as the main problem when the real problem is immigration…the Munich killer was the son of immigrants and his bullies were all immigrants themselves.
Irnoically Gardner tells us:
“With a detailed look at the history of those perpetrators,” says Mr Aylward, “what we see is a sort of combination-lock of numbers that if arranged in the right sequence then the lock snaps open and a murderous attack takes place.”
He says far more work needs to be done to identify the signs leading up to such events before they happen.
Yep, let’s have a detailed look at what drives them….first they wouldn’t be there if it hadn’t been for immigration which sumps then in a totally alien environment that they refuse all too often to adapt to, two Islam isolates them and itself is the cause of alienation, and as they identify more with Islam and soak up the anti-West narratives of the Muslim agit-propagandists and of its allies in the Western media who pump out the ‘West is attacking Islam’ and ‘the problems in the Muslim world are all due to Western foreign policy’ narrative, they turn ever more against their host countries and want to do something to ‘help’ Muslims. Usually by killing as many as possible.
Gardner disengenuously tries to suggest that counter-terrorism officers think mental health issues are the problem…
At a recent meeting of Western counter-terrorism officers in Washington, it was concluded that agencies well-practiced in confronting ideological organisations like IS were ill-equipped to deal with lone individuals bearing murderous personal grievances.
The challenge becomes even harder when a troubled individual with mental problems is cynically recruited by a terrorist organisation, thus blurring the lines between the two.
Gen Michael Hayden, a former director of the CIA and NSA, say the phenomenon “allows the truly troubled and the truly dangerous to reach for a broader cause that gives meaning to their alienation”.
The concept of terrorist organisations preying on disturbed people to further their aims is not new.
But that isn’t what they said, Gardner slips in his own thoughts about ‘a troubled individual with mental problems’ and then links the words of Gen Hayden to his own, but Hayden talked of alienation…that’s not a mental health issue, that’s more often than not cultural and social….if you want to live by a certain ideology but it is at complete odds with the surrounding one you are going to be frustrated and as said Muslim activists whip that up into an anti-West narrative which is supported by the likes of the BBC.
The Telegraph has a much more realistic editorial on the problmes that Germany [and the rest of Europe] faces:
Germany is in a dangerous state of denial about immigration, Islam and terrorism
In the past seven days, German civilians have come under attack from four men of Middle Eastern or Asian origin. Three have been linked to Isil. The latest incident saw a Syrian blow himself up outside a Bavarian festival after pledging allegiance to Isil.
Joachim Herrmann, Bavaria’s interior minister, has suggested that such attacks raise questions about an immigration policy that has seen more than one million migrants enter Germany largely unchecked over the past year, many from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. Raising such questions may appear logical and sensible, but Germany’s debate about migration issues does not always follow logic or common sense. Thomas de Maizière, the federal immigration minister, attempted to argue that the open door offered to migrants by his boss, Angela Merkel, is not relevant to the recent attacks.
While Mr Herrman’s attitude is more realistic, Mr de Maizière’s is more typical of Germany’s political debate about issues of immigration, integration and security. For many reasons, some of them historical and understandable, many German politicians are wary of acknowledging, first, that there are questions about whether all immigrants can smoothly integrate into Western societies and accept Western values and, secondly, that some voters have legitimate worries about the arrival in their country of people whose attitudes seem far removed from their own. This reticence should end, because it risks doing real harm.
Western democracies are now frequently experiencing political events that were previously considered unthinkable, at least by their political elites. If there is a common theme to Brexit, the candidacy of Donald Trump and the rise of the Front National in France, it is that political establishments which ignore and ridicule voters’ concerns about issues including immigration and cultural cohesion are simply storing up trouble for the future. Such concerns do not go away just because politicians refuse to acknowledge them, instead erupting unpredictably. To avoid these eruptions, those worries must be addressed sensibly and calmly by mainstream politicians. Otherwise the only beneficiaries are fringe factions more inclined to exploit social problems than solve them.
Too many German leaders remain in denial about the questions raised by Mrs Merkel’s open-door immigration policy. They must end that denial and start answering those questions, before less savoury elements offer their own answers.
The underlying problems are immigration and Islam….without them the problem wouldn’t exist regardless of the mental health treatments available in Germany.
Gardner and the BBC are not only in denial but are actively working to hide the real problems…..but it’s not just a matter of terrorism or ‘mass killings’, they of course totally ignore the other problem, that of crime…the murders, the rapes, the assaults, the gangs, the drugs, the robberies and frauds carried out by immigrants…all only occuring because they have been allowed into the country…how many people would still be alive if uncontrolled immigration hadn’t allowed in vast numbers of unknown people?
If Gardner was looking for one of the root causes of the problems that Europe now faces he need look no further than his own bathroom mirror or at the big sign above his workplace that says ‘BBC’.
The BBC, in denial?
Be interesting how they report this one given the multiple dilemmas presented:
Or maybe they will decide editorial integrity kicks in on a watertight oversight basis?
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Gardner is either a liar or has his own mental problems. His deceit on behalf of Islam is nauseating,even questioning a witness to the murder (on BBC news 24) of the French priest who stated unequivocally that the killers said they were from Daesh (BBC bullshit for real Islam).
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So were those muslims who caused Mr Gardner’s appalling injuries just in need of therapy? Would a series of psychotherapy sessions have sorted them out and stopped them being violent towards unarmed journalists?
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Frank Gardner might as well argue that Saudi Arabia is one giant lunatic asylum.
The problem is islam, and the only solution I can see is separation.
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Watching RT. They had an “expert” on Middle Eastern culture or something. After a lot of beating about the bush, he admitted that this attack on a church, and the probable beheading of the priest, was a religious attack. His solution was to separate Muslims from Christians, as they do in Islamic countries. His words
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Unfortunately for germany their denial will be the longest and their people will suffer longer because of their guily over ww2. Merkel admit your mistake and resign.
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Mackers
‘Merkel admit your mistake and resign’
I prefer.. ‘Merkel admit your mistake and off to the gallows’
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Thats guilt
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Poor Frank Gardner is still suffering from the murderous attack on him. This attack was just as brutal as the murderous attacks of ISIS. Cold blooded brutality. He needs counseling and our sympathy.
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No, he does not need counseling and our sympathy. Those who were forced to commit the allegedly murderous attack – provoked by Western foreign policy, Islamophobia in the West, Israel’s brutal occupation of, er, Israel, and in anticipation of a future Brexit – are the true victims here, as are all Muslims. Frank has been brave enough to admit that he was part of the problem and that any such attacks, even if allegedly carried out by card carrying members of ISIS or Al Qaeda with written instructions on them and a video on Facebook, are, er, Nothing To Do With Islam (TM), which is a Religion Of Peace (TM). Vote Corbyn and fight Fatcha’s Tory Cuts.
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Sadly for the BBC they’re rapidly eroding the trust of growing swathes of the UK population as a casual glance at the comment sections of their publishing house, the Guardian, will clearly demonstrate.
To its credit the Guardian still allows a limited opportunity for readers opinions concerning the state of UK multiculturism and judging by the responses that actually survive their enthusiastic blue-pencil policy, very few readers have any sympathy for their editorial POV and I think it fair to assume that the majority of the excised comments support that trend.
Camouflaging terrorism was a successful strategy for years by the BBC but that technique is now not only useless but counterproductive and its continued application simply reinforces the beliefs of a growing population that the BBC, as a news source, cannot be trusted as an impartial and benevolent purveyor of news.
Once that perception reaches a critical mass (and I make no assumption whether that state has or has not been met) then the default position for many will be to discount anything the BBC says (even if what they say is true or not)
I take no pleasure in seeing the demise of an institution that once we looked on with pride but its own actions have made it unfit for purpose.
RIP Auntie
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Even a couple of years back, Guardian commentators had had enough of the RoP. They were so scathing of the Guardian POV, that they could be labelled Islamophobes. Bear in mind though, that when it comes to visceral hate, the Left is untouchable.
PS: Why does my spell checker not recognise “Islamophobes” .
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NCBBC
My keyboard does not accept ‘Islamophobia’… I worked out why, it’s because it doesn’t exist!
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Thanks Jerry. Must get a new one that has a proper spell checker and keyboard.
I’m surprised that the The Ministry of Current Truths does not have an an update
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“…then the default position for many will be to discount anything the BBC says..”
For me this is already the position – If the BBC’s lips are moving then you know they are lying. If the BBC’s lips are not moving; there is something they are keeping from you.
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Be interesting to see how “Frank Denial” handles the reporting of the latest atrocity coming out of Normandy.
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Interestingly nothing over here from mental Muslims could it be down to the English channel or Merkels error of judgement. That poster was full of men leaving war zones is it really any surprise. Time for action your citizens are being murdered. Wake up.
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Just worked though the emails from last night.
As of this moment, this is the only BBC ‘Breaking News’ one received:
Japan knife attack ‘leaves 15 dead’
At least 15 reported dead after knife attack at residential care centre near Japan’s capital Tokyo, local media say
A few things spring to mind:
1) BBC Breaking News is at best, tardy (if, given what they call news, no loss).
2) BBC Editorial Integrity found no time, or space, to write and send any other emails.
3) The BBC is still working on how they spin the subsequent news or… hoping Mrs Trump will cover Michelle’s latest triumph.
Envy of the world, and a snip at £4Bpa to employ 20,000 people to fail to do their jobs.
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So if the problem of the current spate of mass killings, which only began after the massive influx of Middle Eastern Muslims into Europe and especially Germany, is all because of the lack of proper care in Germany for people with mental problems why have the same kind of massacres for the last thirty, forty, fifty years or so?
The bBBC are running round like headless chickens trying to deflect any connection between the massacres and Militant Islam. When there is no chance of claiming it is all because of some mental health issue or other the bBBC immediately goes to it’s fall back anti-American Gun Law propaganda by trying to make an association between the mindset of the Muslim Terrorists with those of school shootings in the US.
The bBBC will perform summersaults to try and avoid admitting what is obvious to all but the most self-deluded members of society, that the butchery is being carried out by a fanatical section of Muslims who are determined to destroy not only Western Civilisation but also all the other Civilisations around the world who do not conform to their own narrow and outdated Dark Ages version of their Faith.
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Douglas Murray in today’s Coffee House blog…
“The more complex story of the Munich shooter allowed everyone to double-down on their favourite explanations for violence. Inadequate welfare provisions, unsuitable town-planning and bullying were all wheeled out to explain why Ali David Sonboly started shooting in a McDonalds. Others were a little too keen to claim him as an Isis warrior, when it seems he wasn’t. The BBC got around the problem by excising the ‘Ali’ and all reports of his religion. Instead, speculation about the shooting happening on the fifth anniversary of Anders Breivik’s terrorist assault in Norway meant that every-one could ignore the Muslim eyewitness who heard Sonboly shout ‘Allahu Akbar’ and headline on Breivik instead. Meaning that in Europe in 2016 a child of Iranian parents can be portrayed as a white supremacist, while no amount of Mohameds shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ can be said to have any connection to Islam.”
Much better put than I could.
Link
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/will-politicians-accept-reality-islamic-terrorism/
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