An enraged Biased BBC reader sent me this regarding the BBC Radio 4 Today programme this morning;
27/7/16 BBC Today programme. Discussing the murder of Father Jacques Hamel.
“John Humphries played back a recorded interview he did with a French philosopher who blamed Israel for creating the motivation for the cowardly murder. Humphries had editorial discretion on airing this pre-recorded interview and by his doing so reinforced the deliberate political correctness narrative of ‘terrorists are the victims’. Never once in 10 minutes of his broadcast did Humphries mention the word Islam let alone its teachings as a motivator of the murders. [Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”]
Humphries went onto challenge, in the same interview, a French government minister about the banning of face coverings in public places in France as being in part responsible for the terrorism.
The BBC yet again is putting our lives in danger with their left wing denial of terrorist cause and motivation.”
I agree with this entirely. The BBC are pushing the bizarre narrative that when Hollande “declared war on Islamic extremism” he has triggered Islamic extremism. Only the BBC could find this a logical conclusion but then again, and as I repeatedly point out, they really are Islam’s little helpers. Agree?
Yes, I think it’s now time to start calling the BBC for what it really is: an enemy of the west and of British patriotism. We’ve known for many years about the Leftist sabotage of the BBC. I think it’s clear whose side they are on.
And now that the Government have told the BBC that they face no curbs, the BBC have a free hand to pursue their evil “ideology “.
Right on, David, Alex, Vance.
Bbc doublethink: They ALWAYS and SYSTEMATICALLY under-report Islamic related crime/terror/violence, which they sometimes justify in the name of social cohesion, so as not to inflame so called Islamophobia.
Then they ALWAYS and SYSTEMATICALLY over-report, say, ‘racist’ crime or violence, real or imagined, thereby jeopardising social cohesion by inflaming groups like Black Lives Matter against the police.
Btw, if Islamophobia means fear of Islam, which it does, I must admit I’m getting a tad nervous myself.
If it means ‘irrational fear’… doesn’t seem all that irrational to me.
peter,
I am an admirer of David, but haven’t changed my name yet. LOL !
Yes, you are right. The BBC approach actually increases hatred and decreases social cohesion. Maybe that is their intention.
And the tragic irony is that turning a blind eye to the truth about the religion of peace affords it the cosy darkness in which can flourish horrors like child-grooming sex and prostitution gangs (on an INDUSTRIAL scale), terrorism, forced marriages, child marriages, ‘honour killings’, fgm etc etc.
P.s. where are our fearless lefty feminists when we need them? Where’s the outcry over Bradford, Rotherham, Rochdale and a hundred others? Too busy hounding out of his job a white (therefore evil) professor who made a very mild joke about girls in labs, perhaps. Uproar.
Map of paedo gangs – the scale is breathtaking. Except to the Beeb.
https://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map/
Ahh, cultural enrichment – doncha love it?
Peterthegreat, on the lunchtime news today a Labour spokesman was asked why Owen Smith made ‘sexist’ remarks about Teresa May. What he said was ‘smash her back on her heels’. It could be argued that incites violence – but what on earth is ‘sexist’ about it? The BBC is seeing ‘isms’ when they’re not there.
Cranmer,
It is certainly hate speech, but that is normal for Lefties.
Sexist?….but I thought there were no sexes these days?…we are all gender fluid, are we not?…whatever sex we feel we should be, on any day we feel….the great Obama instigated it, so it must be true…I mean, the BBC have been ramming this (eww) down our throats (Ewwwwwww) for ages now.
Where are our fearless feminists?
Well mouthy Maxine Peake waited until she could make money out of it: Maxine Peake and Lesley Sharp to star in Rochdale abuse drama.
To paraphrase Bill Shankly: if Maxine Peake was acting at the bottom of my garden, I’d draw the curtains.
Here is a similar map for Germany
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-09/presenting-interactive-map-european-refugee-assaults
So two muslims go into a Catholic church in France. Screaming “Allahu Akbar” they make the 85 year old priest kneel. They read an islamic sermon in arabic and slit his throat.
How should we react to this act of medieval islamic barbarity?
Let’s blame the Jews!
Problem sorted.
The Indy is pushing a wheeze by the Palestinians to sue the UK for the creation of Israel.
Bill Shakespeare had a view on what to do first with lawyers.
If this comes to pass, one can only hope Mr. Shiner is head of the line.
Another meme doing the rounds at Auntie and parroted by the evil Humphries is that France is too secular and should be more ‘accommodating’ to Islam. Yes, ‘accommodation’ is working really well in Sweden (on the verge of suicide) and the rest of Scandinavia, Germany and UK isn’t it?
Maybe France should ‘accommodate’ sex gangs, swimming pool rapes, Cologne style gang bangs and murder too.
In 1944, extremists massacred 642 French people in Oradour-sur-Glane. Perhaps it was because the French weren’t accommodating enough to the German “migrants”?
Mike ,
Not just extremists, but ” Das Reich” a Division in the German Army !
I live less than 5km from the “ligne de demarcation” that marks the border between occupied France and what the locals persist in calling “Free France” but the rest of the world calls “Vichy”.
The ONLY comments about Brexit that have been passed to me by our French neighbours (we’re the only non-French in the hamlet) are, whilst quietly looking around to make sure no-one else is listening, all variations of:
“Thank G*d you’ve done it, we want a referendum too, but our political class won’t allow it.”
Bizarre thing is, they’re all saying it, but they all think they’re the only ones who think that way. Hollande is finished anyway, but if they ever realise that ALL their neighbours want the same thing, Le Pen will walk it at the next election; that might be good, it might be bad, who knows, but it is dawning on me that it is not just the people of Britain who are waking up to islamification and the threat to national identity.
Every morning since the referendum result, I wake up feeling hopeful.
Still keeping up the target practice, though.
BBC lunchtime news. ‘Lone wolves’…’mental health problems’…etc etc.
Are they being told to repeat these words as some sort of neuro-linguistic programming?
Prediction for the site of the next attack in Germany by cultural enrichers:
(Lone) Wolfsburg.
I’ve often wondered: where does the beeb train its so-called journos in systematic wrong thinking and lying? Is there some Alice in Wonderland Institution of Topsy Turvy Thinking somewhere? Oh yes, it’s called the cultural marxist education and university system.
Google provides an excellent way to collate the case figures from local press court reports I make it 200 Sikh victims and 5292 white victims of Muslim Paedophile gangs. spread across 43 English towns and cities.
evad666,
“Google provides an excellent way to collate the case figures from local press court reports I make it 200 Sikh victims and 5292 white victims of Muslim Paedophile gangs”
Yeah, because courts make a habit of publishing the religion of rape victims – just so we all know whether they deserved it or not.
Go crawl back into your little hole, evad666
…just so we all know whether they deserved it or not.
What a strange conclusion to draw.
But then, looking at your closing sentence, maybe not.
If the BBC thinks it can continue to use Israel to justify it’s attitutudes then when Mr Trump is POTUS it can expect to be treated as the unwelcome and unpleasant media outlet it really is by the US.
I hope both countries expel it from their shores. Actually expelling the BBC from our shores sounds fine to me.
Would it be possible to sell the BBC to Murdoch? The nation could get back some of the money that it has wasted so far. Even a discussion of such a sale, is likely to cause stomach upsets among the luvvies.
Explosion in Germany near a migrant reception centre No casualties reported! …watch the BBC go into overdrive on this one. One word narrative FAR RIGHT!
Of course it must have been the “Far Right”. No chance it was one of the peaceful and well adjusted New Germans whose back pack just happened to go off is there?
Foxcote posted at 3.59 about the explosion near a migrant centre and at just after 5 I read a little about it on the Daily Mail site. At 5.13 nothing about it on the BBC news web site, I guess they are waiting to see who did it before they broadcast it to the world. And if it happens to be a Mo or an Ali and it is too late for the 5 or 6 o’clock news, well so be it. If it is anti-Islamic perpetrators then I am sure they will have time before the news ends.
Vance,
“John Humphries played back a recorded interview he did with a French philosopher who blamed Israel for creating the motivation for the cowardly murder.”
This is completely and utterly untrue.
The French philosopher, Bernard Henri Levi (one wonders why that little detail was left out) said no such thing. When asked how “we should respond [to terrorist attacks]”, he said; by adopting the same policies as Israel – “which worked, at the end of the day, not so bad”.
Your “Biased BBC reader” isn’t just enraged; he/she is also perfectly and thoughtfully deranged.
How very unusual…
I thought the government, like most organisations, would have had a press unit. Does no one there monitor the output of Al Beeb? If not, that’s disgraceful and neglect of duty. I noticed today in some report that the “rapes” in Germany on New Year’s Day were still “alleged”. Shameful.
“Muhammad was once a refugee taken in by the Jewish City of Medina. Within 5-years, he had driven out, executed, or enslaved every jew there.”
…How very revealing,
Not one single person, not Vance nor anyone else on this blog could be bothered to check if the claims of “an enraged Biased BBC reader” were true or not; before crawling over each other to express their ever more outrageous outrage.
Quick, change the subject.
Zero,
Do you believe the terrorists were in some way justified in their actions? Do tell us.
I checked the claims. You are right on the point you made above about Bernard Henri Levi’s comments. Humphries did challenge the French ban on full face coverings. Final score 1 – 1.
Do you go through the BBC’s output with the same fine toothed comb?
You would need a Karcher pressure washer and a stiff yardbrush rather than a fine toothcomb Steve Jones
Steve Jones,
“Humphries did challenge the French ban on full face coverings.”
John Humphries;
“And as a final quick thought. Some people are saying you should be a little more accommodating to Islam and maybe repeal your ban on wearing the veil in public?”
Hardly “a challenge”, and at no point did Humphries suggest that the ban was; “in part responsible for the terrorism”.
Thanks Steve for highlighting yet another inaccuracy in Vance’s post.
No doubt Mr Vance will be quick to offer an apology and disassociate himself from such blatant lies…
Zero – pendantic as ever.
Did you notice that entire interview managed to entirely avoid the mention of the word “Islam”, or “Muslim”?!?
John Humphrys almost tripped up over his own tongue trying not to say the “M” word:
But what we try to do is, is to discover who is behind this, who is responsible for this, where has it – however we define “it” – where has “it” come from, who’s responsible?
What an amazing sentence!
Yes indeed John: what is “it”, and where did “it” come from, and why can you not even name “it”???
I would say (although no one has elected me their spokesperson) that THIS is the sort of thing we are outraged about… not whether a French philosopher did or didn’t blame Israel.
So yes, technically you’re right – Israel wasn’t blamed in that interview – but (a) who has time to trawl through a three-hour programme to find out, and (b) I can’t see any comments on this thread which are based on the misquote – so your imputation is misplaced.
In case anyone else wants to listen, the recording of this morning’s today is here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07lh8ck
The interview with “France’s most distinguished philosopher” is at 02:10:20
Listen and judge for yourselves…
Mike Hunt
“Zero – pendantic as ever.”
Pointing out that Bernard Henri Levi didn’t in any way blame Israel and that Vance is repeating a complete and utter lie; is apparently being “pendantic”?
I feel for you Mike Hunt. Let’s never talk of this again…
Yes, you are being pedantic – and my post explains why. But as usual you don’t debate the facts, you just resort to slur.
You pick up on a mistake and call it a lie, ignore all the rest of the arguments made here, and talk as if the mistake you have found (hurrah!) disproves everything else everyone has ever said. Well bully for you. Look, it’s simple: finding one factual error in a field of evidence doesn’t disprove the theory, it simply calls for correction.
Yes, it was a mistake – but calling a mistake a “lie” is simply laughable, as is the idea that every poster here should check the entire episode of “Today” (all three hours of it) to check the veracity of the claims, otherwise they will incur your scathing wrath.
GMAFB.
Zero – just if I can for one second to stop you in your rampage across the forum picking out minute details. You are exactly the reason that this forum exists, you are clearly intelligent as like most rational beings you make academic arguments, sadly you are on the wrong side of the arguments every time and it is people like yourself and this “let’s overstretch ourselves beyond belief academically apologising for despicable acts and in many cases people” that has:
1. Flooded UK/Europe with thousands (I hope its that low) that genuinely want to kill us and will actively do so for their warped ideology – either open a newspaper or just sit back and watch since this is just the beginning
2. Silenced any rational debate surrounding islam and its problems – as another poster stated I beleive once the deathtoll in Europe hits 1000 – then and only then will people like yourself be willing to host the debate – although I’m sure you will still shout us down despite our logic and cold hard facts
3. Genuinely endangered the lives of european people and I’m sure will continue to do so
I’m a musician so I have this debate very very regularly and as I say to everyone else like yourself I just do not understand why you bring your ration and logic to the table whilst being pro multi culturalism, mass immigration and of course islam no doubt.
How much rational academic reasoning do you think the lorry driver in Nice gave to his victims before he ploughed them down? How rational and academic was the kid who BEHEADED a priest doing a morning service? How rational and academic were the Parisian attackers?
This is getting serious – if as I believe due to your views you are, like me a londoner (albeit no doubt once your humanities degree ended) this is very very fucking serious and people like yourself please need to grow up. All people on this site want is rational debate, that’s it. We don’t want to kill anyone. We see there is a problem and naturally want to fix it. The other side however have very different ideas.
TheBrutalTruth,
“Zero – just if I can for one second to stop you in your rampage across the forum picking out minute details.”
“Rampage” = a couple of posts.
“Minute details” = a complete lie.
“…and it is people like yourself and this “let’s overstretch ourselves beyond belief academically apologising for despicable acts…”
I haven’t apologised for any “despicable acts”. You aren’t actually arguing with anyone real, just a chimera you’ve constructed out of your own imagination.
“How much rational academic reasoning do you think the lorry driver in Nice gave to his victims before he ploughed them down?”
Well, I could point out that he expressed himself in what he felt was the only way left to him… murderous violence against the establishment that refused him a choice and denied him a voice.
But by what logic? I assume you, like most that I speak to, are referring to the destruction of the Middle East and the so called reprisals we are now seeing… Let’s use that logic because my grandad who fought in WW2 bought me up to quash that “eye for an eye” logic. Grandad was a major and was shot in the leg – so effectively maimed by the Germans, albeit not killed – his love of custard and fatty foods did that job! Ha on that note should I walk into the Bird’s custard factory and blow them all up too….
If we use that same logic shouldn’t I be in Germany right now filling my backpack with chemicals and nails to “honour” my people?
Zero you seem like a nice guy just your anger and no doubt social circles are pointing you in the wrong direction my friend! If you are London based which you didn’t call me out on so guessing I’m right on that I will happily take you for a few beers and much like the british public at the moment, fingers crossed you too will realise that we are not racists. We are europeans that see our way of life threatened and despite the governments non existent response are willing to fight for it. The true question being when, not if.
Also fellow bBBC’ers lets not vilify zero for thats what he wants – me and my best mate are on opposite political sides of the spectrum and one thing I have learnt is logic and reason win through… It takes time but it does.
The more people like zero that we can engage (he clearly doesn’t work for the guardian as I’m yet to see the screamy shouty true lefty crap) the better for our cause… In his mind we are all right wing fascists but there’s a reason he keeps coming back, the seeds have been planted. Also the fact that he responds to reason and logic himself means he may well be a useful future ally. Any shouting down of him will just relay his inner (no doubt inherited from al Beeb largely and family/friends) prejudice against the right wing. If there is any time to prove who we are it is now, we’ve stood strong through Brexit despite outrageous slurs and so we shall continue!
“How much rational academic reasoning do you think the lorry driver in Nice gave to his victims before he ploughed them down?”
Well, I could point out that he expressed himself in what he felt was the only way left to him… murderous violence against the establishment that refused him a choice and denied him a voice.
Sounds like you just climbed down off the fence.
Unless you were being ironic, in which case it was in very poor taste indeed.
‘Zero you seem like a nice guy’
Considering some of what he has posted, hope he never follows a darker side.
Zero…..you are a half-wit….you are not, in any way intelligent….though you think you are. If you are not already employed by the BBC…..you should be.
Grim,
LOL !
‘Well, I could point out that he expressed himself in what he felt was the only way left to him… murderous violence against the establishment that refused him a choice and denied him a voice. ‘
Zero, this argument could equally be used to defend the killer of Jo Cox. We are going down a very dangerous road if we excuse murder on the grounds that its perpetrators were ‘denied a voice.’
Well said , Cranmer. Many people in the UK are denied a voice. For example the Lefties have their own broadcaster, the BBC, paid for by all of us. But the rest of us do not have one. So we are denied a voice by the Left-wing establishment. But I don’t thinks we slit people’s throats because of it.
“Allahu Akbar “, “why you christians kill us ?” , Followed by a Islamic sermon . The clues are there. If it was about “the Establishment”, they would have murdered a politician.
Cranmer,
“We are going down a very dangerous road if we excuse murder on the grounds that its perpetrators were ‘denied a voice.’”
I completely agree, Cranmer.
Here’s what Alan said about Anders Breivik;
“He therefore expressed himself in what he felt was the only way left to him…murderous violence against, not Muslims, but the Establishment that refused him a choice and denied him a voice.”
Zero, I’m not one to defend Alan, I’m sure he’s big enough to do that for himself, but from my own point of view I find it sickening that quote him completely out of context, in what sounds like a justification of an Islamic terror attack.
As I am sure you already know (but what you chose not to tell us) is that what Alan wrote was based on what Brevik himself actually said about the motivation for his own actions.
On the other hand, what do we know about the Nice terrorist? We know that he was radicalised by ISIS, and committed an act of Islamic terror as a result, an act of Jihad.
It couldn’t be more radically different.
For those who want the full context of Alan’s comments, along with the statements of Brevik on which he based them, you can read it here.
Zero ought to realize that there is a difference between a justification and an explanation. However, the line is often very hard to maintain. And the BBC frequently blur that distinction when explaining Islamic terror in terms of alienation and Moslems being victims of discrimination. Fairly standard justification/explanation of class and race based violence against a percieved oppressive class. Brevic offered a justification at his trial which to the outside world was merely an explanation. Accrording to the transcript of his trial exclusion was very much his explanation, but in no way did it justify his murderous deeds. Mrs GWF is a leading lawyer with connections to his case and assures me that this was the gist of his defence from her reading of the transcript in both Norwegian and English.
If Zero wants to pursue the ethics of terror I would direct him to the writings of Lukacs who speaks of sacrifice of the soul as the only justification of murder that one recognises should never be comitted. Non of his fellow Marxists (end justifies the means brigade) would follow him down that road. It is a complex ethical argument I have wrestled with over many years.
Trouble is, I fear that Zero would waste time nit picking and never engage in a serious ethical/political debate. He is better off with the BBC.
Mike and GWF,
Well said !
Mike Hunt,
“I find it sickening that quote him completely out of context, in what sounds like a justification of an Islamic terror attack… …As I am sure you already know (but what you chose not to tell us) is that what Alan wrote was based on what Brevik himself actually said about the motivation for his own actions.”
Yes, that particular quote was based on what Brevik himself actually said.
Unfortunately Alan happens to agree with him – as he makes perfectly clear;
“Breivik, and anyone else concerned about immigration, was denied an opportunity to voice those concerns by the Norwegian Establishment and media.”
But Breivik wasn’t denied an opportunity to voice those concerns.
It’s nothing more than a false victim narrative he desperately constructed around his self-obsessed megalomania.
Unfortunately, by repeating such false narratives as if they were true, Alan isn’t “explaining”; he’s “justifying”.
“Minute details” = a complete lie.
Oh right – so in your world, zero, an honest mistake is a lie, is it? Well, fair enough: you are entitled to use words according to the 1984 dictionary if you want to 🙂
But hang on a minute, though. If you call honest mistakes lies, how would you categorise the ridiculous economic claims of the Remain campaign which were propagated verbatim by the BBC, and which have now been proved utterly false: were they a mistake, or a lie?
“Rampage” = a couple of posts.
Sorry zero but anyone who has had the misfortune to read your verbiage here will know that your posts are invariably riddled with nit-picking and pedantry. It’s your stock-in-trade, your modus operandi.
So no, zero, it’s not just “a couple of posts”, as you must be well aware. So… was this claim – and your pretence at innocence – an honest mistake, or a bold faced lie?
Biased BBC commenters, and Alan and Vance in particular seem to make a lot of “honest mistakes”. It’s almost as if they’re too busy telling themselves they’re right all the time to bother about engaging their brains enough to not be wrong.
Or maybe they just don’t give a shit about lying because they know Alan will come along in his “Mike Hunt” persona and make excuses for his alter ego and pals.
“It’s Friday, it’s 7.49, and it’s the Crackers J!”
At least only moderately potty mouthed pre-watershed, which is a mercy.
Is that the heightened intellectual debate Biased BBCers claim they indulge in?
Or is it just the site’s self-appointed school prefect sticking his nose in because he’s desperate for attention and knows that he has nothing else of worth to contribute?
Guest Who – do you believe Vance and Alan’s repeated misstatement of facts are deliberate lies, or a result of ineptitude? Which is it? Are they liars, or fools?
If it helps, “both the above” is also an acceptable answer.
Jerrod, have you not learnt the difference between argument, refutation, and insulting opponents?
I sometimes think Jerrod is a poorly educated student from a crap new university taught by underskilled and over worked tutors who frequently praise nit picking and insults, and mistake it for robust argument. The result is that he has never learnt how to conduct himself in a debate. I sometimes encounter this type of student when they apply for research posts and within 5 minutes realize they have to be rejected.
Then he could be an adult probably working in a Labour controlled local authority, appointed above his ability because his assertiveness passes for knowledge.
You can spot intellectual weaknessess in those who fail to confront the substantive points made by an opponent and nit pick around the edges, attribute underhanded motives to an opponent, whilst really believing that they are making inroads.
> Jerrod, have you not learnt the difference between argument, refutation, and insulting opponents?
Not this again. Biased BBCers just don’t seem capable of holding themselves to the standards they claim to hold dear, so why should anyone else feel beholden to their demands?
If you really care about standards of debate, then show it by calling out the usual culprits on this site on all sides, not just those you disagree with. I realise that you don’t have the bottle to do so, though, so will just have to accept that you’re both a hypocrite and a coward.
Why don’t you try to hold us to some kind of ‘standards’ then, Jerrod, instead of keeping your head down when the worst examples of BBC bias are flowing from our keyboards? Or might you find that a tad difficult when you fail to condemn the barbaric acts of Islam and the medieval everyday practices they have brought to this once liberal and enlightened country of ours? In fact, worse – any criticism of these practices (such as gender-based abortions and gender segregation, to name but two) by posters on here brings out the worst from you. Remember this?….
…doesn’t matter that you’re a prejudiced little worm who can’t treat people with fairness and equality, because MUSLIMS….We all know from all your previous rantings that you’re an obsessed little bigot who is clearly so insecure about his own place in the world that he has to obsess about anyone and everyone who is different from you. Don’t go changing, johnnythefish……If you started behaving like an adult instead of a moron, the Biased BBC Club for Bigots in Self-Denial would have to rescind your membership cardRather a narcissistic, if not downright sociopathic, approach to life…
Hope you have the guts to stand up and be counted when the Islamic shit really does hit the fan in the UK. Alternatively, why don’t you move to Glodwick (go on, educate yourself and Google it) and get on down with the religion and culture you admire so much – you will be surrounded by it – then report back. Yes, I’ll look forward to that one….
Jerrod, Your failure to adopt standards of discussion is a serious matter and Johnnyfish has covered it.
But I was referring to your inability to construct a coherent argument or response to argument.
For your information, there are many different opinions posted here. Many posts are in disagrement or express different opinions on a wide rnge of matters. But you would not recognise them because we are not using insults.
Getting booted out of the Department of Crowrther and Glaze Studies at Penge U seems to have added extra bitter to the twist.
Especially when Bat Guano and the Twobyfour twins made the cut.
Can’t wait for when it’s 5 o’clock this fine Friday.
Don’t bother feeding the troll.
NotaSheep,
My view as well !
Mike Hunt,
“Oh right – so in your world, zero, an honest mistake is a lie, is it?”
If it was, as you say;“an honest mistake”, I would expect the person making it to admit such, perhaps even apologise…
But as it is, Vance is fully aware that he posted something completely untrue and yet, quite obviously, couldn’t care less.
Which marks him out as both a liar and a gutless coward.
Strange that the bBBC has never claimed that responding to Nazi extremism and declaring war in 1939 we were the ones who were responsible for creating Nazi extremism. Well, if they want to claim that by responding to existing Islamic extremism we are responsible for creating Islamic Extremism then surely they should make the same claim for 1939 and imply, as their assertions over Islamic extremism, we should have meekly sat back and done nothing whilst Hitler attacked and destroyed the existence of our European Civilisation, something the Islamic Jihadists have also declared to be their avowed intent. But that kind of selective thinking is something the bBBC has steadily perfected over the last forty years or so.
Surely the solution to radicalization lies in the Public sector where employees with 6 figure salaries can soon expect a rise?
The Muslim radicals are obviously frustrated hospital consultants who are desperate to regain their work life balance stolen from them by Tory Health Secretaries or frustrated BBC TV stars?
F…ing Hell – this thread is a zero jihad
Nothing surprising here
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/07/27/sharia-compliant-bbc-welcomes-designated-terrorist-group-cair-spokesjihadi-to-whine-about-donald-trump/
BBC website reports that the sinister , BIg Brother, ” Named Person Scheme ” which the wicked SNP are trying to bring in in Scotland, has had a setback in the Supreme Court. Does anyone here know if any other countries have anything similar ? I have googled a bit but can’t find anything.
Madam Le Pen’s response to the ongoing Jihad en France; I hope she is their next president.
Marine Le Pen, Front National, July 26, 2016
(Translation by Adrian Davies)
The victims of the latest Islamist terrorist attack carried out this morning at the church of Saint-Étienne-du-Rouvray are in all our thoughts. Father Jacques Hamel died after his throat was cut, while horrified nuns and parishioners were forced to watch.
We are in a state of shock. The savages who publically proclaim their allegiance to this murderous ideology have gone too far by attacking a Catholic place of worship and committing such atrocities against peace-loving men and women. The very heart of our nation’s cultural identity is now under premeditated attack.
Faced with the frightening increase in the number of attacks carried out on our soil–there is one a week these days–and the intolerable ratcheting up of the degree of savagery, we say to the government and the President of the French Republic that inaction is no longer an option. The French people, for whom I am merely a spokeswoman, demand that at long last the government should take the necessary steps to bring to an end the decades of willful blindness and weakness that have brought France to this pass.
There must be a political response. If the rule of law, to which we are committed, is to be maintained, the first step is to apply the existing laws and impose the punishments that they prescribe.
Yet in the two most recent presidential terms of M. Sarkozy and M. Hollande, the slide towards Islamism has known no obstacle, and the rise of the criminality that serves as its breeding ground has sped up. We now know what consequences the inaction of successive governments has had. We will no longer be content with fine words, but expect that the present government will act at once.
Might I remind the government of our principal proposals, which they can put into effect. The closure of extremist mosques, the expulsion of hate preachers, proper border controls, an end to immigration, a veto on the German policy of welcoming immigrants to Europe, the deportation of immigrant offenders after they serve their prison sentences, internment of those on the security service’s watch list, strengthening the police, the intelligence services and the army, the reform of our law of nationality, harsher punishments for crime, actually making criminals serve their sentences[1], building more prisons.
The social contract upon which our Republic was founded vests the right to use force to protect the people in the government alone. History will condemn this government if it continues to fail to take actions, so harming national cohesion or, worse still, public order.
Good grief ! Could you imagine any British politician saying anything like that ? They would probably be arrested. Vive Marine ! Vive La France !
Grant – 100%. Front National enjoys a significant approval rating premium over Holland’s increasingly decrepit regime that, like our political ecosystem, is seriously out of touch with public sentiment. Viva Marine indeed. Viva la France. And viva UKIP.
soyel,
Yes, UKIP is the nearest we have got. Need to wait and see where they go with the new leader.
Have noted Marines post-card simple demands to deal with Islam in France.
Bloody obvious and unarguable.
We need to reorder them for the UK and then link up to agree with her and the FN.
This surely is “European Solidarity” in action…one is cut, we all bleed…existential outside threat and all that.
AND we have the double lock in light of the fact that the catholic Church is a worldwide institution too.
Keep it simple for the enemy-let THEM tell the British public that Cologne, Nice, Munich, Paris, Brussels, Wurzburg, Ansbach and/or Rouen do NOT merit any of what Marine and her niece, her party are now demanding.
We are all French on this one…and the mockery of Prodi, Delors, Patten, Kinnock and Schultz parodies and piss taking co-opting of that word “Solidarnosc” as THEIR fey Islamic death rattle and roll now has got to be stopped…now.
PS-can`t read names above who are posting…but can see enough shit and skid marks above to know that Jerrod is trailing something unpleasant above…can smell it down here, hope it`s not seeping out the sides of his kanga pants.
cH,
LOL ! Especially the bit about Jerrod. I never knew what kanga pants were until now !
High minded non offensive debate Biased BBC style (ie gratuitously offensive juvenilia from the usual suspects).
Thanks for proving my point.
If you object to anything try and be specific not gobbledygook
Mackers,
You are quite new here and very welcome ! At the end of last year we had an informal vote on “Poster of the Year” and ChrisH won hands down. He probably has more knowledge than the rest of us combined ! After you have read a few posts , you will get the hang of it and he makes many perceptive points among the apparent craziness ! Enjoy, he is unique !
i was refering to the liberal lefties not chris grant
Vance and Alan completely skewered again – beautiful!
And this line is a spot on description: ‘the site’s self-appointed school prefect sticking his nose in because he’s desperate for attention and knows that he has nothing else of worth to contribute?’
You and Jerrod on tag team duty exchanges here are like two chavettes on a bus seat texting each other having bunked off early Friday from ‘college’.
Poor Guest Who. Must be so upsetting for him to realise that nobody falls for his pompous persona, and that everybody realises he’s just a sad, miserable, lonely little man who pretends to be more important than everyone else because, in the real world, he’s about as effective as a David Vance election campaign.
To be fair to the French Government, there is a logic to what they`re hoping to do.
Nice revealed a row between the local authorities and the national Ministry of the Interior.
The local authorities and Mayor wanted the CCTV of the truck bomber kept-and the Government wanted it banned and destroyed.
For reasons of “refusing to glorify”…in reality, “fear of embarrassment over incompetence” more like.
Having read more about the two Muslims who ritually cut the throat of the 85 year old priest in Rouen, can see why the French government would rather we not know about them.
Prison radicalisation, dark web apps, clear threats to kill on audio-and the judges over-riding the clear concerns of the State prosecutors, only restricting IS wannabes to a part-time electronic tag.
Where do you start with THAT heap of State incompetence and indifference?
No wonder the French State-and, of course the EU Human Rights lobby with Geoffrey Robertson etc-would rather we not know all this.
Think we can expect Merkel to back this “don`t give them the publicity” meme…what they mean is “don`t ask us to explain yet another needless Islam atrocity-it`s not our problem, it`s yours”.
And the BBC clearly like the idea…none of that endless lists of Muhammads to embarrass the Imam,