Well then, the BBC is in full Hillary-worshipping mode today, abandoning any pretence of impartiality over who should become next US President. It’s vomit inducing to watch it, so I don’t! Anyhow – the weekend beckons, we need a new one of these, and the floor is yours!
WEEKEND OPEN THREAD….
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More BBC than the BBC. More Guardian than the Guardian. The arch-globalisers from the Economist spell it out in a leader from this week’s edition http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21702750-farewell-left-versus-right-contest-matters-now-open-against-closed-new Disclaimer: I have a subscription to this magazine, and am sorely tempted to terminate it after months of pro-Europe, anti-Brexit, pro-Migration, pro-Globalization propaganda. However, as with the BBC and the Guardian I continue to monitor their output if only to keep abreast of the liberal discourse. So here’s an example of how the liberals are portraying the imminent collapse of their world.
“Farewell, left versus right. The contest that matters now is open against closed”
“America is not alone. Across Europe, the politicians with momentum are those who argue that the world is a nasty, threatening place, and that wise nations should build walls to keep it out.”
“Britain’s decision to leave the European Union has been the anti-globalists’ biggest prize: the vote in June to abandon the world’s most successful free-trade club was won by cynically pandering to voters’ insular instincts, splitting mainstream parties down the middle”
“The danger is that a rising sense of insecurity will lead to more electoral victories for closed-world types. This is the gravest risk to the free world since communism. Nothing matters more than countering it.”
“The wall-builders have already done great damage. Britain seems to be heading for a recession, thanks to the prospect of Brexit. The European Union is tottering: if France were to elect the nationalist Marine Le Pen as president next year and then follow Britain out of the door, the EU could collapse. Mr Trump has sucked confidence out of global institutions as his casinos suck cash out of punters’ pockets.”
“Defenders of the open world order need to make their case more forthrightly. They must remind voters why NATO matters for America, why the EU matters for Europe, how free trade and openness to foreigners enrich societies, and why fighting terrorism effectively demands co-operation. Too many friends of globalisation are retreating, mumbling about “responsible nationalism”. Only a handful of politicians—Justin Trudeau in Canada, Emmanuel Macron in France—are brave enough to stand up for openness. Those who believe in it must fight for it.”
“Republicans who are serious about resisting the anti-globalists should hold their noses and support Mrs Clinton. And Mrs Clinton herself, now that she has won the nomination, must champion openness clearly, rather than equivocating. Her choice of Tim Kaine, a Spanish-speaking globalist, as her running-mate is a good sign. But the polls are worryingly close. The future of the liberal world order depends on whether she succeeds.”
I will just repeat that last sentence “The future of the liberal world order depends on whether she succeeds”.
Probably time to think about cancelling my subscription.
It’s always important to know what the enemy is thinking. Preferably with your subscription money rather than mine.
Sorry was not looking on my IPad and pressed report comment by mistake
Yes …cancel and be damned.
This is the gravest risk to the free world since communism.
Oh, the irony! Talk us through that EU democratic model again….
Ah yes, ‘Closed world types’. Those quaint people who are a little bit averse to living in a society where a priest can have his throat slit at the altar of his own church. Those narrow minded nationalists who object to young children being deliberately mown down by lorries.
Active shooter….texas..multiple victims…..
One wonders where to go for facts….
Visit Biased BBC for any updates. It’s always reliable!!
Paul Watson nails BBC lies and cover up.
We certainly need You Tube
You all remember ‘Comical Ali’ and may have wondered where he went ?
Well I reckon he got employed by Al Beeb 😉
GWF,
Thanks. That is a great one , partly because Paul is a little less shouty than usual. Also , it is great that he and the interviewer are laughing at the MSM. Any chance of the BBC broadcasting this one ?
Yes GWF, we must laugh at their lies, ridicule their distortions and omissions until they can no longer keep a straight face when they say NTDWI, Religion of Peace etc.
And yes, ‘shouty’ is not good, though understandable: gives the enemy the excuse to call them rabid right wingers, foaming at the mouth etc. In this respect Douglas Murray is sound: manages to stay calm and factual, even in the face of hysterical attacks. These men and women are heroes, we salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability.
Peter,
Don’t bring Gorgeous George into this ! I think the Lefties are panicking a bit because they are losing the high ground and the edifice that they have been creating is crumbling. Expect them to get even more hysterical , manic and desperate as time goes on.
Thanks GWF and thanks Paul Joseph Watson, a sane voice in an ocean of lies.
Rucksack bomb full of shrapnel at music festival:
“We still don’t know whether the offender only wanted to commit suicide or whether it was his intention to kill other people as well,” Joachim Herrmann, the Bavarian interior minister, said at a news conference.
Ha ha ha ha, it’s the way you tell ’em Joachim Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Notice, no trolls commenting on that interview .
I just got round to reading Daniel Hannan’s article in yesterday’s “Telegraph”. Superb !
The BBC caught wishing Labour were in power?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-36913696
Sixty years after it accepted its first tenants, BBC Berkshire speaks to some of the Britwell Estate’s residents, including Home Secretary Alan Johnson.
The current Home Secretary is Amber Rudd, and seeing as Alan Johnson is Labour there’s little chance it could be him. Labours current Shadow Home Secretary is Andy Burnham . Johnson was Labours last Home Secretary and in position for less than 12 months !
But Alan johnson was one of the leaders of the Reamain campaign, so to the BBC he is a Very Important Person. In their fantasy world he should be Home Secretary – therefore he is. Truth is whatever the BBC wants it to be, and if the BBC says it, it must be true.
Front page news on the BBC News Web Site: Saatchi boss Kevin Roberts disciplined over gender comments.
His punishment is that he has been ‘put on leave’. His crime? He said this:
“…they (ie women) are going: ‘Actually guys, you’re missing the point, you don’t understand: I’m way happier than you.’ Their ambition is not a vertical ambition, it’s this intrinsic, circular ambition to be happy.
“So they say: ‘We are not judging ourselves by those standards that you idiotic dinosaur-like men judge yourself by’. I don’t think [the lack of women in leadership roles] is a problem.”
We know how this will turn out. Twitter and Facebook will go into mindless meltdown, the BBC will angrily demand to have him hung drawn and quartered.
He will then be removed from any jobs he has just as the Guardian columnists and BBC comedy shows will misquote him in order to destroy him.
It will end with a Soviet style public confession from Kevin Roberts of how wrong he is and how terribly sorry he is to have held views that do not fit into the soft left’s vision of the world.
Oddly, I have heard women say what the luckless Kevin Roberts quotes. The brilliant clinical psychologist Susan Pinker detailed how and why women don’t wish to advance too highly in her well-argued book ‘The Sexual Paradox.’ This doesn’t apply to all women, but appears to cover many.
When will men learn that before saying anything, they must check with BBC producers and Guardian apparatchiks?
I cannot believe that this country has sunk to this level. Meanwhile May is going to abolish slavery !
hahhha isn’t she about 300 years late
It’s impossible to abolish slavery and May knows that. Arab and African slavers have nothing to fear from a ‘government crackdown’. Or perhaps they are whispering among themselves in fear???
May should be spending her time dealing with her primary task…Brexit! And she’s doing next to nothing to further it. Which could be part of her long term plan.
It should be the only thing she is dealing with and we hear diddly squat – do they think we will all forget?
Dover,
Exactly. She is finding every excuse to avoid Brexit and distract from it. I think I posted yesterday that I hope the Tories replace her it they have the guts to do it. She is quite useless anyway.
Theresa ‘The Apeaser’ .
I had my doubts when she got the job, she is just buying time .
Tell your mates that this is still running…… …………………..
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/133618
Scribblingscribe, this is a very good analysis of the modern media ‘witch trial’. When I see this rubbish on the telly, especially the ‘public confession’ I am reminded of Goldstein’s confession in Orwell’s ‘1984’ which was constantly relayed on the telescreens.
I was forced to do it.
Exactly!
Al Beebistan’s mujahideen squad are out carrying out Allahs will again this morning, as the good Jihadis are once again doing everything in their power to take on the man who is willing to stand up and fight for the free world and protect all men, women and children from the pure Islamic instruction of mass destruction and horrific deaths…
“Fury as Trump mocks Muslim soldier’s mother Ghazala Khan”
Fury!! Sounds like it must be kicking off! If our peace loving Muslims are involved I am having visions of hordes of Islamic warriors screaming “Allahu Akbar” and burning pictures of Trump……
“Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump drew outrage from Republicans and Democrats by mocking a dead Muslim soldier’s mother who stood silently as her husband attacked him in a speech”
Right….so politically motivated and utterly biased voices are outraged at Trump!!! When are they not Al Beeb you devious, conniving bastards!!! Trumps the man they know that is going to end their cosy, privileged, delusional club and stop them from destroying our entire way of life and ending western civilisation as we know it!! Of course they are going to be f…ing having a hissy fit!
What did Trump say this time, to get these bet wetting traitors to throw their toys out the pram…
“If you look at his wife, she was standing there,” he said, “She had nothing to say… Maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.”
So… Trump stated a fact about the Muslim mother being the traditional ‘5 paces back’ from the father, and how she didn’t say a word… This may have been because she was too upset, though it could have been because women are subhuman in Islamic teachings… And Trump is being a great statesman by asking another question about the suitability of Islamic practices and its compatibility with the freedoms and tolerances of the United States.
Plus!! Trump should have been able to respond back to the slanderous and without any basis statements from the Muslim man who criticised Trump in front of millions of people. Trump is doing everything he can to save the US.. Islam (which this man is sworn under pain of death to follow and Hitlery Clinton is fanatically trying to pro) is doing everything it can to destroy the United States of America!!’
Well done Al Beeb. Allah will be proud of you
Allahu Akbar
I was about to comment on that article but find you have done so much better than I would have.
I find myself reading these stories on the Beeb and asking myself what the real facts are, not just those the BBC has chosen to tell us. One thing: you can be sure that Trump has done this for a very calculated reason. Probably on the basis that the “fury” comes from those who will never support him, whilst those considering doing so might say to themselves, “You know what, he may have a point”.
Thanks mate I saw the headline and couldn’t be bothered to read it
I don’t bother reading any BBC report about Trump now. The BBC use him as the object for their daily ‘two minutes hate.’
As usual, Biased BBC prioritises its own prejudices over the facts. No wonder a lying, duplicitous imbecile like Trump, who says anything that will get mindless bigots to fall behind him without question, gets such adulation from this cabal of racist halfwits.
> Trump stated a fact about the Muslim mother being the traditional ‘5 paces back’ from the father, and how she didn’t say a word
Fact my arse. Ghazala Khan has spoken alongside her husband about the loss of her son:
http://on.msnbc.com/2alFW5v
She’s clearly visibly upset in that video. The possibility that, say, she felt that she couldn’t speak in front of a stadium and millions of people via television never occurs to Tothepoint. And why? Because he’s too busy telling himself that his bigotry-fueled theories are “facts” to even stop to think about what a mother who lost her son in service to his country might be going through.
But hey. If your want to believe a documented liar, a renowned bigot, and someone who will say anything in order to attract attention for himself, take your pick: either Trump or Vance will satisfy your bigoted little desire to be told whatever lies you want to hear.
Name one statement that Trump has made that can objectively be called racist. Please enlighten our readers on what grounds is the average reader of this website racist. Can you give even one example?
Name one thing he last lied about during this election. What makes us crave bigots with a ‘bigoted little desire’?
The fact of the matter is, you can’t give us an example. You will ignore the facts and continue in your attempt to deflect real issues that only facts can prove, such as Hillary’s corruption and the totalitarian and intolerant worldview posed by Islamic doctrine. Are you one of those trolls that keeps popping up? If that’s the case, consider myself no longer taken in by your pathetic bait.
Jerrod and his komrads in thr SWP, BBC, UAF, Ckass War and all are obliged to portray Trump as a racist, along with Farrage but mainly anyone who criticises Islam or its followers, or those in the media who portray it as a perfect ideology/religion/ doctrine of peace. If challenged to give evidence they will cite some quote from a speech, but never portray any doctrne where Islamists are denounced because of the colour of their skin or any other characteristic that consitutues membership of a race.
I have asked him before to tell us whether he supports Islamic terrorism and if he does why.
For the sake of argument I have raised this question on the FB pages of the above named leftist sites.
On every one questions regarding the claim that criticising Islam is racist have resulted in instant blocking, no response no argument from them. Just a block. And Jerrod describes people who post here as bigots.
You want examples of his lies?
Torture works.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/trump-torture/
That Bernie Sanders misrepresented his views on the minimum wage.
That Putin called him a genius.
That Clinton deleted emails from her server after being served a subpoena.
That people knew about bombs supposedly found at the home of the San Bernadino shooter but said nothing.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/trumps-press-conference/
That Tim Kaine has called for the US to accept more refugees than Clinton has said they should.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/trump-blasts-kaine-for-syrian-refugee-plan/
I could go on. But you won’t listen will you? You only listen to “facts” that prop up your own prejudices, and then get all hufty when someone pints out the bleeding obvious about what a pathetic little racist you are, and how you’ve let yourself be conned by a megalomaniac sociopath who is more concerned about self-publicity and attention from dimwitted lunatics than he is about politics.
Jerrod:
Why are you so bothered about what “pathetic little racists” think? Is it double time on Sundays or what?
Why are you upset when people get called out? The prospect of realising that your views aren’t shared by rational people a little too upsetting for you?
Jerrod:
Why do you think I am in the least bit upset by anything you do or say? I assure you I am not, I could not care less about you, I merely wonder at your strange motivations. I suppose everyone is entitled to a hobby.
Jerrod, so that list counts as evidence that Trump is a racist, wants to discriminate against peope because of their skin colour. Or is it a list of things which the left (rightly or wrongly) find objectionable in Trump.
You have failed to respond to the question – give us evidence that Trump is a racist?
I could add a few criticisms of Trump of my own. But like you I see no evidence of his racism.
Cut the shit Jerrod or piss off back to your freaks on the far left.
Jerrod. Hope you feel at home with your Komrads in Liverpool, fighting/fisting for left wing ideals.
Jerrod, is it racist if I say I dislike fisting?
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13876406_1742527949298158_6557954970134062758_n.jpg?oh=526ee83347db6a7001fdad32e16a7969&oe=585AF303%5B/img%5D
Wouldn`t you think the Green Nazis among the Lefties would be appalled at all that smoke from their flares?
Volcanic ash for fairies-asthmatics on their march(well, getting wheeled around in go-faster, pimped up disability scooters)…and as for that carbon footprint?
Poor Gaia will be choking on the patchouli warriors exhaust in this picture…does NOBODY think of the Children?
Course not-they`re not having any, best not to tell them to go f themselves-cos they do.
Turkey baster(d)s all….
Nice to see GWF finding his level as always. The poor, sex-obsessed loner who pretends to be superior but who can’t help betraying his gutter instincts.
Jerrod, Your friends not mine – you are the person here who doles out accusations of racism but fails to back them up.
As for me, I have a sense of humour. If people like fisting – and I have seen it including some eminent leftie univ lecturers in Rembrandt St, Manchester – that is fine, but really folks, it is not a vote winner is it? Somehow your komrads think it is a route to the revolutionary society.
Now take my suggestion seriously. Answer the questions put to you or fist off.
It is 12 years since their son was killed in Iraq, they had decided to speak at a Democratic convention, and when you raise your head above the parapet like that, then you have to accept you are going to get shot at!
The point Trump makes is a wider one which goes to the suppression of women in Islam & its culture, the BBC are outraged that its mentioned, but are not outraged that this kind of suppression goes on regularly.
Do you approve of Muslim men forcing their women to walk 5 paces behind their husbands and to be silent until spoken to Jerrod? Or is it in fact the case that Trumps sin here is to talk about it at all?
The BBC has consistently failed to report on some incredible issues and scandals with both Obama & Clinton, leaving the people in the UK misinformed about what has been going on in the US.
Without looking it up can you name any of these scandals, because if not it rather proves the point.
The BBC has a massive pro Democratic bias in the US election, indicative of the wider left wing bias it has in domestic broadcasting.
Thoughtful,
I wonder how much they got paid to speak at the Democratic Convention ?
Any chance of you stopping this passive-aggressive crap Jerrod?
Stop the abuse will you?
If Trump is racist as you say…you`ve been asked to give the evidence.
Why come to this place if we`re all as you say?
Arguments only-leave the abuse for the CiF website and its like.
It`s no nicer from you than it is when Islam does the same thing…murders people then raises money for the orphans they created…..
Ah, I see all the crazies are coming out today. Interesting how defensive you all get when somebody points out truth about Trump that is too difficult for you to ignore.
And out come all the personal attacks that Biased BBCers claim to hate, but can’t help themselves using. It’s like the part of the brain that recognises that they’re being massive hypocrites is just one more critical faculty that they’re missing.
Jerrod,
Instead of the insults take the opportunity of free space on this site to provide your evidence that Trump is a racist, that Trump discriminates on th basis of skin colour..
Remember, you are allowed to comment here. The sites of your komrads are very severeley moderated.
GWF,
Don’t forget that Lefties are so stupid they think that Islam is a race !
Who looked at a word you said, you deluded oaf?
I responded to your endless attacks on Vance and contributors who DO have things to say that are worth reading.
Unlike you-I see your views on the usual sites, so you`re not going to say anything new or interesting now are you?
I repeat again-don`t confuse your trashing of Trump with something to bring out the likes of me.
I don`t read you-just don`t like your endless abuse, then whining when you`re given a bit of your own.
Close the door behind you eh?…my last post was by no means a “personal attack”…and, to be honest; the nicer we are, the nastier you get-so be warned that it might be best to be less civil if you persist in coming here baring your balls….
cH,
Quite. I don’t even bother to read these numpties. Getting a reaction from people on this site is a big turn-on for them. They are probably masturbating at the same time. That is, assuming they know how to do it. Maybe have to go on a BBC training course for that !
Think he`s gone Grant…
Heard a shuffling of old slippers and got the faintest smell of sweet wee over the cabbage soup.
LOL !!!
Chris, I know your rankings rarely, if ever, have any sense to them – but to claim that you don’t read what I post and then, in the very next sentence, whinge about what “endless attacks” I supposedly make is highly amusing.
You keep Grant amused, though. Admittedly this is an achievement which can be made by a piece of shiny paper on a bit of string, but a person of your standing has to take credit for whatever you can, I suppose.
Jerrod, I usually skip over your posts, but seem to remember that once you told people here to produce “facts” to refute you. The above seems to me to be ad hominen abuse directed at Chris and Grant. Perhaps I remembered wrong, but I do not like to see posters on this site indulging in personal abuse of other posters. Last week I made what I thought was a fair criticism of the BBC, only for it to be refuted by facts. I accepted the criticism in polite terms and thanked the poster. I won’t indulge in personal abuse of you, but, politely suggest that you moderate the tone of the above. It appears to me that you are posting “under the influence” and did not take the time to edit the post as the site gives the opportunity to do, e,g. “rankings” when I assume you mean “rantings”. Given that that I am the person who suggested to other posters here not to respond to trolls by citing the great Dave Allen joke, broadcast by the BBC no less, about not to give pleasure to masochists so that you can really torture them, I have wasted too much time on you and will not reply to anything further you post, except to quote the great Sarah Palin, “Suck it up, cupcake!”
Kennedy,
Good one. Don’t worry about me or CH. We are big boys. Little mosquitos, like the Trolls here, are annoying as some little children are, but not a big issue. This is their playground and
they are welcome to play. But , one day , they will have to grow up and deal with the real world . But I do not hold out much hope for them.
Thanks Grant. One for all etc!
Kennedy,
Yes ! Greetings from sunny Gambia ! But , I am in Scotland right now !
Jerrod – Maybe Darling you should have the whole of this site to yourself because your views are all just so much more important and well thought out than the rest of us waycist filth
Why do you waste so much of your valuable time on us – Oh the humanity of it all!
One of these days you wont come here any more, then we will all be sorry – that will teach us !
Look sweety I am so sorry that we dont all agree – but thats life sometimes.
Big tip – if you took the big pink pills like doctor told you rather than just spitting them out, life would be just so much more agreeable for you!
Jerrod
Is there any possibility of obtaining a response from you?
I have asked the brand of computer you are using so that I may establish the remarkable materials from which the keyboard is apparently made.
The material in the keyboard apparently violates the laws of physics in that it is immune to wear as demonstrated by the continued functioning of its B, I, G, O and T keys. The R, A, C and S keys also continue to function.
There may be an earth shattering scientific discovery to be made, so please provide details.
Even if the explanation is that “The World’s Most Trusted Broadcaster” buys you a new laptop every time you throw the current one against the BBC senior canteen wall, provoked by justified criticism of your beloved employer on this website.
I don’t work for the BBC, as I have explained many times over and which should be able to be understood by anybody with a functioning brain. Maybe you can find such a person to explain such a difficult concept to you, as it’s clear you lack such basic comprehension skills yourself?
Why do you even bother with this Jerrod c**t? You will never get anywhere attempting to debate with folk like him: he’ll either (eventually) see the error in his views or he won’t.
It’s best to ignore him completely (IMHO), whatever feeble minded nonsense he posts on here; he’ll then just f**k off altogether if there’s no reaction to any of his dross.
AS
Sadism, I enjoy winding him up.
As my old Dad used to say many years ago “usually the person losing their temper is the person losing the argument”.
What I find strange about Trolls, like Jerrod, is , why he would want to “debate” with anyone who does not have a functioning brain ? I guess he is just lonely and needs any friends he can get. Sad.
Al,
I agree, but I still feel sorry for the Trolls. They really have nowhere else to go and that is very sad.
>Trump stated a fact about the Muslim mother being the traditional ‘5 paces back’ from the father,
>and how she didn’t say a word
Fact my arse. Ghazala Khan has spoken alongside her husband about the loss of her son:
http://on.msnbc.com/2alFW5v
Yes, she speaks, but not until 2:37 into the interview.
So one could say she’s not only five paces back, but also two-and-a-half minutes behind.
Kind of reinforces Trump’s statement, does it not?
And yes, Ghazala Khan has spoken, but not in front of unrelated males, which would be Haram.
She couldn’t address the convention because the audience contained thousands of unrelated men, which is forbidden by the Sharia.
In the NSNBC interview where she does speak there are no other males present in the room with her apart from her husband (the interviewer was in the studio), so it was permissible under the Sharia.
During this brief hiatus between terror attacks our national broadcaster returns to its favourite role of unofficial opposition to anything and everything vaguely British/English or conservative.
Where’s the official opposition – remind me, is it Corbyn Alibaba and his 40 thieves (just short of 50 but game on keyboard revolutionaries!) or is it the 180 Blairite Labour refusniks…?
Anyway looks as though Labour is going to be signed off work for a month or two – diagnosis : hurt feelings for the girls and the chaps have a broken thermos flask.
So in steps the BBC – delay to the decision on the new nuclear plant : BBC not too sure what they think but pretty damned sure the Tories must be wrong. And so this week the pattern of thoughtless reaction opposition is set. Yah boo media/politics, anyone?
Have the BBC arrived at a position on Hinkley Point yet?
Didn`t hear it mentioned today.
Like their islam-gay axis of conundrums and tumbleweeds…so goes their Nuclear Plant v Tory infighting ones?
Lob in the unions and the 900 jobs in Somerset…and the BBC are stuffed…how will THIS one be resolved to their satisfactions…can`t please Norman Smith, Len McClusky and Caroline Lucas on THIS one can they?
Obviously the BBC is against nuclear power. However, it has to pretend to be in favour of jobs (sadly construction jobs tend to be done by white men, but you can’t have everything). However, the financial deal struck by the boy wonder Gideon Osborne means each job will cost about a million pounds to the taxpayer.
For once, Theresa the Appeaser has done the right thing in not signing the contract, but examining it first. I support nuclear power, but not this deal, it is ruinously expensive and a bad deal for everyone but the Chinese. I wonder what Gideon has got lined up for his retirement?
How would the BBC cope with a Black UKIP Leader?
Would he get the fawning and slobbering Obama treatment?
A dilemma for them, perhaps?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36712733
Mainstream media response in these cases is usually:
1. Black liberal/left – a wonderful celebration of diversity and hope for the future etc
2. Black conservative/right winger – don’t mention his/her race at all, or if you do, ask puzzled questions as to why someone with that background would hold such views.
Barrack Obama and Steven Woolfe are both half black, half white. The BBC treat Obama as all black, they will treat Woolfe as all white. Simples.
I never know Woolfe was half black. No surprise the BBC didn’t tell me though, it doesn’t fit their narrative that UKIP hate anyone who isn’t 100% white.
It’s pretty vile the way they refer to Obama as “black” when he is just as white. It’s not just vile, it’s a plain lie. It’s as incorrect as saying Obama is white. He’s mixed race.
This is the closest the BBC get to calling Woolfe half-black:
“Born in Manchester, with African-American, Jewish and Irish Catholic roots, he is also head of the party’s Black and Minority Ethnic (BME) association.”
Can you imagine the outrage and mayhem if the BBC said the same thing about Barry?
Rob,
Perhaps it is a minor point but for those who are obsessed with the colour of skin and identity politics it is worth mentioning that Obama’s claim to be the first black President has been challenged.
‘Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya, his father’s family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro).’
Read on
http://www.cf-cia.org/obama_lineage.htm
I would rate him as a crap President who has played a role in dividing America.
G.W.F. that Arab element: Always emerges sooner or later.
As for ‘colour of skin’, anyone see Roz Altmann this morning discussing the State Pension? Bitter having been removed from office? I reckon so. Perhaps with her, “Tanning” she could be confused by the BBC as a terrorist?
I’ve heard Steven Wolfe addressing conference and he comes across as a very passionate speaker. It will be interesting to see how Al Beeb treats him ?
Woolfe comes from my old patch of Moss Side in Manchester.
He`s the man they need-his willingness to offend Emily Thornberry and the whole of the Any Questions audience in London a few weeks ago proved it.
Can`t say I`d warm to him personally, but that `s irrelevant-UKIP need the profile, the intellect and it`ll stymie the race cards of the BBC…and he`ll destroy the anti-Semites in Labour and the BBC,
ChrisH,
Small world. I ived in Moss Lane East for 10 years. Got on well with local black community until multiculturalism and anti fascism was foisted on us. So I moved. Great people
Good man, I was near the Whalley Hotel…did my mums funeral for nothing, great people.
Hydes Brewery may not make the best beer, but boy is it cheap.
£1.60 a pint last time i was there a few years back…get the idea it`s pumped secretly direct to the bar for that price.
ChrisH,
Love to swap stories with you. I used to walk my dog around W Range and the Ladies sitting on the walls looking for business would call me over so they could cuddle my dog. Bet that dog got more affection than their clients. Locals in Moss Side had an ice cream van and I asked for an ice cram for my dog, so the guy left his van and brought one from the shop. The substances sold in his van were not made of ice cream.
Johnny Briggs(who used to play Mike Baldwin in Coronation St) used to drive by and stop on the way home from work…suitably flash with assorted gals in tow.
Used to work in the new shopping centre at The Hotpot…and the Co-Op…rough was not the word back in the early 80s…did do quite well out of the BBC and ITV when the riots were on though…never sold so much saltfish, rice peas and agee…and plenty petrol-scented jackets going cheap.
Funny that-the rioters trashed Barries clothes shop and the Toy Depot-local businesses that had roots for eons…but left Ladbrokes and the Nile Club shabeen alone..told me a lot about the trash that trash their own hometowns, but leave the booze and bookies alone.
Mr Khan’s son is a hero, There is no doubt of that.
Some speakers at the DNC have made sacrifices:
Madeleine Albright ”sacrificed” 500,000 Iraqi childrens’ lives
Barak Obama ”sacrifices” numerous Afghani lives with his aggressive drone policy
Hillary Clinton ”sacrificed” Libyan, Syrian and American lives with her failed foreign policy
Good for the media to flag this one up.
Yet they`d never invite the parents or wife of a policeman murdered by the BLM onto their stage to address them would they?
But if you SUPPORT such killings of white(and of course all other races now) policemen?…well the Democrats will want you.
Any response Jerrod?-note his rogue unicorn in a cup cake shop impression above somewhere!
People are dying for their country on a daily basis in some war taking place around the world. But to wheel out Mr & Mrs Khan for political propaganda was beyond the pale. ChrsH is right, the parents or wife of murdered policemen would never get a platform.
From the pay walled Sunday Times today, under the title “Voters are ready to punish Merkel in aftershock of first suicide bomb”
Jens Spahn, 35, deputy finance minister (of the Christian Democrats) and often spoken of as a possible future chancellor, called for a ban on burqas, niqabs and other forms of Islamic dress that cover women’s faces.
“In this sense I am a burqaphobe,” he said. “Anyone who thinks men are worth more than women, refuses to learn German or to send his daughter to school swimming lessons should seek asylum in a country that suits him better.”
When will a UK politician have the guts to say this?
Scribblingscribe, in answer to your last sentence – When the UK is ‘topped-up’ with Muslims as much within a year as Germany has been!
“topped-up” with Muslims will no doubt be achieved by 2030, another 14 years from now. This gives the current Muslims in residence the opportunity to create another generation, – I’m no mathematician but given the numbers here now, it could possibly double or treble the figures in our towns and cities. Those that welcome migration and multiculturalism seem to have no vision of what the future is going to be like – only what they see at the moment. Even if the gate is shut tomorrow, there are enough migrants here now to create an Islamic state of the UK by birth rate by the end of this century. But no-one is doing anything about it, or cant see it !
Douglas Murray has said the Muslim population doubles every ten years. Eventually they will be able to vote for an Islamic State
They breed like rabbits and, if you can have up to 4 wives, well the sky is the limit. And that is not including the girlfriends . Islam is all sex and violence and nothing much more . Reminds me of the BBC . I look forward to Troll comments . LOL !
Here’s a BBC Magazine article called Going Hungry in Venezuela
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36913991
Funny how the word socialism never gets a mention…
Not much talk of how great Chavez was any more…
Anybody else wonder what the big religious story this week?
It`s just that Ed Stourtons execrable “Sunday” seems to think that Clintons handbag carrier she`s appointed as VP…being a Catholic (but only in the Stourton sense)…makes the lead story for him and the BBC.
Next up-Jedi/Pastafarians on Australias census…then Ebola weepie crap that fits on any and every OTHER Radio 4 soapbox show-and then…and then…
Maybe we`ll forget eh Stourton and Muslim boss?…imagine he`ll nest it in under Catholic Boy Scouts meeting in Krakow…with Francis hoping we`ll think it`s all over the desert tribes fighting for bottled water brands.
FFS BBC…if you CAN`T in your heart spare a word for Fr Jacques Hamel after what happened in Tuesday-and then extrapolate what this may yet mean…then what is the bloody point of you?
Straight to hell Stourton-drop your boss in the seventh circle of hell before YOU go down the spiral, you piece of posh crud!
Fr Jacques very last Gospel reading?….
“Blessed be your eyes, for you see …blessed be your ears for you hear”
“For I say now many good people and prophets longed to see what you saw but didn`t…wanted to hear what you did, but they didn`t”(Mt 13-16/17).
It`s the end of Jesus teachings on the dividing nature of his parables…and if the butchery of Fr Jacques is NOT a parable for our times…well my name is Frank Imbroglio.
Didn`t bother going to church today-just can`t imagine one who`d teach what is needed anymore…ah well, the Pop Ups are coming…and no scum with a sharp knife will pop these bouncy castles we`re creating…
Chris, I did go to church today, as I do most days. Exemplary sermon about rejecting the values of the world around us and standing up for the teachings of Christ. An impulse made me look around the congregation and I realised that I was the oldest person there, being aged sixty, and the other people looked to be agreeing with everything being said. Then again, I do live in Africa.
“Then again, I do live in Africa.”
Presumably that means your church is led by Christians.
RJ,
I think that most churches, at least nominally are led by christians
Grant,
I have my doubts about UK churches. A belief in socialism is mandatory but I think that Christianity is optional.
Hillarys bagman gets the full suckup from Stourton…gay marriage, likes abortions….his kind of Kuffar licker. (catholic spelt as it will soon be).
Go back to the Sunday website from last week-and Trumps “Far Right/Religious Right” VP is decribed as Trumps ” sidekick” at the very top of the site.
Nuff said….
OMG as they say!
Stourton asked the MCB bloke last week about news that the Home Office would be giving money to churches(and mosques natch) re the Brexit violence to come.
MCB bloke likes this.
Abnd two days later…which “place of worship” gets its priests throat cut?
Bloodyt Brexit eh/
Beyong comedy-the BBC
Here’s a headline you won’t be seeing on the so-called bbc so-called news any time soon – unless it’s to show how waycist our police are.
“Police arrest 900 Syrians in England and Wales for crimes including rape and child abuse
Express.co.uk – 4 hours ago” http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/
But at least the situation isn’t as bad as Germany yet: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6668/germany-migrant-crime-wave
Sorry if this has already been posted.
“Remove all EU flags from Public Buildings”.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/142279
My
Mother enjoys “Songs of Praise” and is puzzled why the BBC keep changing the timing . Today 3 pm. It raises a bigger question of why the BBC hate Christians and love muslims. The day will come when the BBC broadcast Friday prayers from some mosque. Would they dare shift the time around ? Maybe the Trolls could address this issue. LOL !
Grant,
Funny how the Trolls avoid discussion.
A moslem in charge of religious broadcasting. I wish they would share the post with the Chrurch of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. At least those guys do not hate Christians.
GWF,
Yes, the trolls methods and characteristics here seem to be :-
1 . Personal abuse, mainly aimed at Alan and David Vance, but otherwise a scattergun . This is evidence of self-hatred. ” I hate everyone who disagrees with me “. A common affliction in some teenagers. But in extreme cases, it continues into ” adulthood “.
2 . An obsession with detail. The slightest error gets picked upon as if that is evidence that the bigger picture is wrong. So, a childish avoidance of bigger issues.
3. Mindless dogmatic adherence to the ideology. No evidence will change the pre-programmed ” mind “.
4. Totally ignoring any argument or evidence which contradicts the mindset.
5. The personalisation of everything.
I could go on but that is enough just now
The trolls are aided by folk engaging in dialogue with them…..they are best ignored.
Not unexpected PTG. In fact that crime wave is throughout Europe now.
Contrast the German crime situation with the fact that only 2% of the 1.3 million have found (and are likely to find) any work at all and it is surely a recipe for disaster to overtake Germany soon. http://newobserveronline.com/germany-2-invaders-work/
You guys looking for a non msm source of what is actually going on
Infowars.com
You definitely wont hear any of the stuff on there on the quisling networks
There’s good reason you don’t hear InfoWars content on the ‘MSM’.
Yeah….i think i made the reason clear
Quisling scum
Am I the only person here who feels a bit sorry for the Trolls, who seem like rather lonely , friendless people ?
Dont feel sorry Grant – Modern medicine works wonders these days.
Providing they keep taking the pills!
I suspect more than a little sock puppetry and a bit of shared log ins going on 😉
Oak,
But it is strange. I sometimes dip into Leftie websites to confirm the inevitable. Then I dip out . I don’t spend hours a day commenting on them. Do the Trolls here really think anything they post here will change the principles which guide my life ? Sure, they might change a few things around the edges. Small deal. So what is their motive ? I can only think of loneliness or some kind of masochism. Weird .
Grant, if anything, the trolls on here just convince me that we’re in the right, as they seem incapable of reasoned argument. If somebody came on here with reasoned, well informed arguments refuting much of what we discuss on here, I would actually welcome that and would be happy to engage with them. Nobody likes an echo chamber, after all.
Cranmer,
Agreed. From them it is just hatred and trivial point-scoring. Just like the BBC. Immature teenagers .
Maybe Grant it is because websites like this are seen as a threat to the BBC view of the world. Aunties little helpers do seem to put rather an excessive amount of effort into “rebutting” all of our lies.
I f that is not the reason then you are probably right – loneliness and sadness are quite likely reasons for their persistence.
Any sort of attention providing it is attention. A bit like one these beaten wives who come out with the old mantra “hes a bastard but I love him)!
It’s a fair point. I would not bother to go on a leftist website and try and abuse them into rational thought.
For a start, anyone opposing the views of social justice warriors would soon be blocked, but assuming he was not, why would calling them communist pinheads (even if true) be expected to convince any of them that you were right and they were wrong?
For my part, Jerrod, Zero and the Clapham Bus Man can say what they like, because it does not affect me at all. In fact, it can be of interest to see their mindset in action. But what they think they will accomplish is another thing. Still, they can waste their time if they want, as fas as I am concerned, but I don’t waste my time trying to argue with them. No point in that at all.
The other night I met socially a friend of a friend who is a QC and a very strong Remainer. After a few drinks we got into a bit of an argument/discussion about Brexit. My god I would not want to be cross examined by him in court! Still, I held my ground and got my points across reasonably well I think (considering I’d had about five pints). Now that’s proper argument – not swatting away silly trolls online!
” Loneliness and sadness are quite likely reasons for their persistence. Modern medicine works wonders these days. Providing they keep taking the pills!”
ECT, and turn it up to 11.
I hope you mean 11kv RJ! Harsh but fair I believe!
No, Grant, you are not alone as I think some of you guys don’t half give ’em a hard time. OTOH, they are super-quick – if they bother to respond at all – to come back with an insult and get all ‘nyah na, na na naah!’ in return.
As someone (sorry can’t remember who) pointed out only yesterday or Friday, whether trolls or not, they seem unable or unwilling to fully engage in a reasoned debate although occasionally one or two have tried a bit more recently.
Up2,
I suspect that some Lefties are beginning to see the light but reluctant to admit it. Many on MSM are quiet these days. The others are like rats in a corner . But the war is not won yet. In terms of European politics, Mad Merkel, Mad May and Hollow Hollande must be removed .
New Hate Crime: Beebophobia.
Guilty M’Lud.
Im getting tired of our normal trolls maybe we can have a new troll with a new troll name
Maybe we could pick the name has to be a sort of original/classical/slightly offbeat/radical intellectually yet accessible so the “kids” can relate to it.
I like bulbasaur
I like SFB. But they wouldn’t get it. (S**t for Brains)
Does that relate to a song, Oaknash, or am I getting muddled?
Could we not take turns to be “Troll for a day”?
Rota basis.
WE could cut our teeth and learn the rapier wit needed…bit like wearing a big glove for when the police dog attacks us.
Maybe we could have a roll call of “great trolls” of our time…some of us may remember REAL trolls , as opposed to the pissabeds who crop up here these days.
Or am I being sentimental here?
Chris -Maybe we could sign up to a Troll Hopscotch workshop run by Hope not hate and the SWP.
Classes could include lying and Advanced Lying run by Tony Blair
Compassion courses run by Benedict Cumberpatch
and keeping your head down when you have been a twat course (also run by Benedict Cumberpatch)
And of course General Obnoxious Bastard and hypocrisy courses (my favourite run by St Bob himself)
Something for nothing course (incorporating the popular shaft a serviceman unit) run by Phil Shiner.
Smug, middle class silver spoon socialist course (run by the delightful Harriet)
I could go on but I think I run the risk of having to run the Boring Bastard Course myself.
cH and Oaknash,
LOL ! I cannot compete. Oak, yes , you are a Boring Bastard. I prefer the rapier wit and repartee of Jerrod and his cub scouts ! Yeah man !
Great posts ChrisH and Oaknash
I’m up for participating in some sexual deviancy/trolling. There’s a masters degree course I can take on the subject being taught by a lunatic who sits outside my local train station, and spends most of the day licking curbs and talking to his toenails.
Think he keeps calling himself “Jihadi Jerrod” or something like that…. It’s so difficult to understand most of what these deviants are going on about…
peter,
I plead guilty too !
Snuff and Grant where you been, get with the programme! You two really need to get “down with the kids” (but not in a Savillesque way).
Bulbasaur is a “monster” from the new Nintendo Pokemon Go game. Where you walk round staring into your I phone in a state of augmented reality collecting pokemon monsters.
I was alerted to the amusing possibilities of this new game last week when – I nearly run over a couple of teenagers, when they blundered into the road in front of me staring into their phones. They then looked at me like I was an idiot for not anticipating this rather bizarre behavior.
I guess its just another fad for much of our youth where anything is better than dealing with real life.
Oak,
I have no idea what you are talking about, but I am concerned that you do !
Look Grant – I dont own an I phone!, I dont own an oversized baseball cap! and I certainly dont possess any skinny jeans! In fact I dont even say cool!
I only found out because I happened to enquire from a number of people (younger than me) why these youths were so keen to decorate my front fender!
Going to lie down now you have raised my blood pressure !!!!!!!
Oak,
LOL ! Yo, Yeah man, give it 5. Go write a rap “song”. Young blood. Yo. Ok ! And I am talking to you !
Grant they are all over the place surprised you haven’t seen them . Every night I walk the dog over the park it is full of zombie like kids walking around glued to their phones. They are playing a virtual game in reality if that makes sense. No idea how the game works but I think they are hunting Pokemons or something it is sad to watch .
Lock and Oak,
Yes, fiddling while Rome burns. At least Nero was aware of what was happening. It is all so sad.
Grant and Lock
I think there should be new EU referendum as Pokemon Go was deliberately released by Nintendo as part of a right wing plot to keep the kids too busy to be able to vote – Gotta catch em all!
Got to go walk my dog now – fortunately its on my I phone too so I wont have to leave the settee – far safer!
Grant … double LOL!
Up2
Thank you. But where is the Trolls sense of humour ?
I’ve got this vague recollection of some drinking song or some-such with the Bold Bulbasaur as last line character or was it a song done by Roy Hudd or someone like that?
Oh dear, am getting old, memory going
“Have I had my tea yet?”
Maybe Abdul Abulbul Ameer ?
I was just watching RT’s weekly review of news when up pops our own David Vance in a debate with Mo Ansar televised about five days ago. RT only showed a very short section, so here is the full discussion. Well done David for getting your points across in the face of Ansar’s continual interruptions and crass dissembling.
Mo Ansar: “These are chickens coming home to roost.”
David Vance: “Islamic chickens.”
Not “dissembling”: Taqiyya (lying to spread Islam)
Mo shows Bob Dylan style list of countries France ‘invaded’ (many to stop the local internecine slaughtering, but moving on). I’d like to know how that explains explosion of crime and terror incidents in Sweden, Germany, UK etc.
Did I miss the dastardly Scandinavian colonial wars?
He further claims that doesn’t ‘excuse’ the killings… so why mention it?
ptg, that Dylan-style-list begs the question: how long had those countries been Islamic and had they voluntarily turned to Islam?
(Notwithstanding some errors, I think, with Italian colonies and WW1/WW2 battles in the mix.)
Mo shows Bob Dylan style list of countries France ‘invaded’….
So how exactly did the Islamic hordes get from Arabia to fighting the battle of Tours in France in less than a century after the birth of Mohammed? Wonder if the BBC know?
The Bob Dylan posters were a distraction; it does not matter what innacuracy they depict, it simply distracted attention from the speaker.
Excuse me, I think I misheard him. Rewind. Oh no I didn’t, he really said it. “The founding fathers in the US, the ideas of enlightenment and tolerance, these high virtues came from muslims in Europe.” Whodowhatnow ? I expect a six part BBC documentary in to this from Simon Schama anytime soon to reeducate me and my crazy sense of history.
Yes indeed. Washington, Adams, Franklyn – their names echo Islamic history and tradition.
I think Mo has been listening to one too many Mary Beard lectures.
And he will definitely be encouraged in his fantasy by the BBC’s version of Middle Eastern history – especially the bits they choose to omit.
Not content with taking licence fee money, now David Vance is taking Putin’s ruble.
And my wife’s tomato plants aren’t very productive this year!
johnny
Much worse than Mary Beard: Karen Armstrong, arch-apologist for Religion of Peace.
peter,
Mary Beard is awful ! But Karen Armstrong , brain dead !
Agreed.
Agreed, Peter.
obc, why are the BBC so obsessed with Simon Schama ? He is a very third rate ” historian “. Totally unacademic. They should try many others. For example Eugene Rogan , and others with independent minds. Ah, I just answered my own question !
Grant. Spot on about Schama. Third rate is even better than he deserves.
wronged,
I am almost tempted to call him a wanker, but that would be profane on this site.
Laughable.
How does Mo Ansar get these gigs?…who gave HIM permission to speak for anybody…as opposed to Inyat, Mona, Anjem of the latest beanbag filler from the MCB.
Still-to see that France was paying for “attacking ” the Ivory Coast in 1655…with Mo and his little cards…was quite a thing.
Classic dissimulation and smokescreen flurries…a spray-by skunk, saying nothing but clearly using words.
You can tell that Islam no longer needs to care about its public image and lack of reason and intellect…there`s simply not an intellect that can defend it…I mean..Tariq Ramadan?
Like Labour and the BBC they`ve given up on any effort to win us over…it`ll be force and law very soon, if they get their way.
People get ready. as the song goes.
Apologies if this has been mentioned already on the weekend post:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-36932841
Buried: “Man, 31, set alight in Waltham Abbey Gardens attack”
The victim has described his attackers as being of “Turkish appearance”.
BBQ gone wrong? Climate change?
BrutalTruth
Attempted suicide. Worst case of involuntary attempted suicide I ever seen.
BrutalTruth
The ‘Turks’ were driven mad by Brexit, I reckon. It’s the only logical explanation.
LOL – sorry of course how could I forget!
So far as I am aware, none of the terrorist atrocities have been carried out by Turks.
LOL ! What the hell is “Turkish appearance ? “
Grant,
Whirling Dervishes with Turkish appearance. Watch out for them
GWF,
I lived for 1 year in Konya and this will make me cry ! Many sufis are being killed now in N. Africa and teh Middle East. Why ?
Sufism is anathema to mainstream Islam for complex theological reasons and has always been persecuted by the RoP, many of their saints gruesomely tortured to death.
Basically, if it’s different exterminate it.
And don’t even get me going on the gentle, tolerant, peaceful Bha’i faith.
Kill, kill, kill.
peter,
Yes. If the scumdog Erdogan gets his way , he will destroy everything to do with Mevlani. That wonderful sufi shrine in Konya where everyone is welcome will be destroyed by that ignorant dog, Erdogan. I could go on but I am crying too much for Turkey, a country I love so much and it is being ruined by an ignorant asshole. Erdogan.
Grant – Well, I didn’t expect to get into a religious dialogue, but I agree: Sufism is a beautiful mystical tradition, Rumi, Hafiz, Rabi’a (a woman, oh horror!) etc.
If Islam could rediscover its tolerant mystical core, there might be hope yet.
When pigs fly, oops.
Reply to myself: tolerant mystical CORE is probably not the right word. Its core isn’t tolerant. Branch may be a better word. (I suspect I’m getting a bit esoteric here and losing my usually huge loyal following of 3.)
I think it’s important to understand these things peterthegreat. As I understand it Sufism is similar to the Orthodox branch of Christianity (ie, mystical). Shia are more like Roman Catholics in that they believe in a sort of apostolic succession from Muhammed, Sunnis (the most dominant group) are more like Calvinist protestants, very rigidly concerned with the teachings of the founder rather than what came after.
Cranmer – that’s 1 way of categorising the various branches but it would need lots of caveats and qualifications. For one thing, ‘mystical’ doesn’t necessarily mean bells and smells – in the case of Sufism it can mean ‘the direct experience of Truth / Reality / the Absoute’. Also Islam never had a proper ‘Reformation’ (long overdue imo), so it’s tricky comparing it to Protestantism. It’s a huge subject and even scholars can’t agree, for example some say Sufism is not Islam at all. And I ain’t no scholar so i’m bowing out of this one.
peter,
Yes, this is not the place to discuss this.
But this site throws up so many people with specialist knowledge. It always amazes me. Your last post is superb. I must just tell a quick story. The last time I was at Mevlana Kurbe ( even these words are controversial ) in Konya, there was a western tourist trip who had been reading ” Lonely Planet Guide to Turkey ” .
The ladies were changing out of shorts into trousers and headscarves. The Turks were laughing and saying, I translate, ” We do not care what you wear but please read Mevlani. “
Nice Grant
Ps Grant: not ‘specialist’ – barely an amateur 🙂
peter,
We are all amateurs, but the BBC are professionals , so we should all worship at their shrine .
GWF – LOL
another useless euphemism
Pete,
Yes
Someone covered in icing sugar and looking delightful?
Er, maybe I should visit the coat-stand by the door …
We live in interesting Times where the national broadcaster is avoid of naming what type of crime (it obviously is), what nationality (that man is obviously) and the number of crimes (that are similarly linked to that nationality) and the identity of the man (which is only revealed as ‘is a man’ is more absurd that that of being of ‘as Turkish’ origin (when in fact the man – is usually of Syrian import via Turkey), the fact that he has (or has not) a passport (usually not), that fact that there is no official immigration papers. Just the end result that the crime was committed by ‘a man’ is really not ‘news worthy’. And that’s the point really of BBC inspired liberalised media. When the obvious multicultural failures are TOO BIG to report (and many are) denial is far easier than to report that ‘ISLAM’ is not compatible with western democracy. Far easier to non-report, deny involvement, redeploy the enemy to offer a ‘positive spin’ on the most recent Atrocity. The Channel 4 alternative is to hire Muslim news reader to report that a ‘man’ of unknown nationality was involved in a ‘hate crime’ which involved a death of a priest (Catholic), or the recent abuse of a child (English), or electoral fraud (by men obviously). Of course any suggestion of the rather obvious links is a ‘thought crime’ in today’s media studies. Perhaps the only way to fight crime (in the future of the EU) is to deny that any crime exists on our shores (or on EU environs). The only victim is the TRUTH and what ‘they don’t know (i.e. the plebs public) they won’t worry about. Another plus (using BBC defined logic) is that if you ignore the Islam problem, then it will go away as they will all be ‘integrated’ into wider populations. So in (BBC Logic in action) calling everybody ‘racist’ who questions anything to do with Islamic inspired local murders and local (or national) intimidation, sexual abuses and electoral fraud is an acceptable ‘trade off’ to multicultural toadies. It is insulting to Polish, Turks and Asian who already work here to hear that ‘a man’ has committed a crime when in fact the link in all of this is the dominance and failures of the Western countries to accept that not all cultures can be integrated without abandoning all things that made this country a refuge from European wars and the answer to European Wars. When we adopt the same standards as our enemies, we have in effect surrendered and lost our Army, Navy and Border controls.
Philip_2, it used to be said that ‘dog bites man’ was not news, but ‘man bites dog’ was. I imagine nowadays the BBC would report it as ‘person in animal attack’.
Breaking bbbc news.
Somebody has killed somebody somewhere.
Emmanuel
Nobody knows anything about it except that there is no link to Islamic terrorism, that much we’re sure of.
Muslims attend Mass across France
Beeb headline proudly proclaims : “Muslims across France attend Catholic Mass in a gesture of solidarity after the murder of a priest on Tuesday.”
Hallelujah, a new era of mass interfaith rapprochement has dawned!
In all the pictures I counted less than a dozen. Two churches are named, the second slightly ambiguously, “A service was also held at the Saint-Pierre-de-l’Ariane church in a mainly immigrant area of Nice”.
Not exactly ‘across France’. A third was in Rome.
“We’re very touched,” the Archbishop of Rouen, Dominique Lebrun, told BFMTV.
“It’s an important gesture of fraternity. They’ve told us, and I think they’re sincere, that it’s not Islam which killed Jacques Hamel.”
Bless.
It is a start though Peter.
These days , we might have cause to be grateful for small mercies like this one.
And-Peter Hitchens DOES say that Islam might only be the primer, once you add a drug habit and addiction to violent video games.
And-again to be fair, these nutters cite Islam maybe the way ex hooligans would claim to be fans for their teams.
Now-if the BBC and the like let this sink in, we can thing again-but if they DARE to imply that the Muslim attendees are somehow showing that Islam itself is not the problem…but the old or the pious might be…then I`ll rescind what I say.
Noted no “We are Jacques” hashtag crap…I mean, he`s an old bloke in a drab region of France-and the BBC will have to get over their “got to be a paedo then” nastiness to priets.
This story will run…a new low in the West, and it`s tipped something we won`t feel just yet…but feel it , we will.
Pure BBC left-wing propaganda:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35100094
Fateen Seifullah thinks unreasonable demands are being made of the Muslim community”
Fateen Seifullah thinks unreasonable demands are being made of the Muslim community”
Yeah….unreasonable demands like respect the country you live in snd stop tying to murder people
Dead unreasonable stuff like that
No 6
Yes, like try and behave like humans and not dogs ! ( No insult to dogs intended )
It might be ‘a start’. Or it might be a tactic at stage 1 of Islamification when compromise and gestures of goodwill are in order, while it’s still a minority. Don’t believe me? It’s all in the Good Book.
https://civilusdefendus.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/4-stages-of-islamic-conquest/
Ta for these Peter.
Know much of David Woods work-but hadn`t seen this one…from 2012, so guess I didn`t look way back.
The other clip was very good too…both are clear and related of course.
Think we need something approaching a full spectrum response, and some intelligence and cunning…and certainly don`t feel as dismal as the last clip might suggest.
Whether it`s a Crusade at one end of the spectrum, and mocking how Muslim blokes pee( they`re meant to squat like ladies do-Muhammad did, so they`re meant to do the same!) at the other?…if Muslims know you`re the strong horse, then they`re fine.
They despise the BBC and the effete left as do we…but no Christian who knows his book and how to use the culture we`re in to threaten or to mute them need worry.
That the Catholics left Fr Jacques and the pensioners/nuns so bereft is NOT how we need to do this-no Mosque would be such a target,no Muslim would let one of his own be butchered like we did as “The European Western Christendom” on offer last Tuesday.
They crossed a line…now it`s our Cross they`ll need to watch now, and the liberal media know nothing of that.
Sharks smell blood and respond, horses smell fear and show contempt…we the People of God, the Friends of Jesus have no excuse not to take note, and act in direct response.
Muslims won`t lay off until we make it clear that this is Christian England-well, those few bits that are maybe?…but it`d be best not to mess with it.
We take our faith as seriously as they do-and we know ours better that they do theirs.
Until then, we`re sitting ducks for them….we need not be so.
Anita Anand: Hardeep Singh Koli: Tommy Sandhu: Naga Munchetti – all on one programme, Sunday Morning Live. Oh and not forgetting the rise and rise of Anita Rani; clearly this is over representation by ratio of eth/mins – and cant help but think this is a numbers game rather than skill or talent, so where are the vacancies for all those kids who have graduated in media studies ? Its like the recent news of overseas visitors getting priority treatment for their cataract treatment over the indigenous population – no different.
Thoughtful – …and find a free NHS dentist.
And a painter.
Was it Lee Harvey Oswald again in Texas? or has the BBC reported that an unaccompanied gun with mental health issues got a bit unruly after a few cold beers ? Has anyone seen any news on this seems to be well locked down can’t find many details
Lack of details a sure sign that’s it’s not a pc story: ‘ethnic’ crime, as opposed to white crime. Quick, hide, confuse, misinform.
Sems to be dropping down the priority list
1 of 2 reasons
Effnik or muslim
Easy…..
Much discussion of and with trolls. Well, it’s a free country (sort of) and you’re welcome to lock horns with them, good sport, but imo it’s a distraction and waste of time and we have more important things to do like expose, attack and mock the odious beeb. Again and again and again.
Two articles caught my eye in The Times (this Saturday). Not in the BBC’s interest to report, obviously..
1. UK export growth leads world thanks to sales outside Europe
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-export-growth-leads-world-thanks-to-sales-outside-europe-kkzdkrcjj
2.Go compare that to this:
French strike action drags economy into contraction as eurozone growth stumbles
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/23/french-strike-action-drags-economy-into-contraction-as-eurozone/
add to this the Italian Bank collapse:
Italy eyes €40bn bank rescue as first Brexit domino falls
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/27/italy-eyes-40bn-bank-rescue-as-first-brexit-domino-falls/
and then add Spain’s financial problems:
Eurozone RUPTURE: Now SPAIN threatens to tear EU apart as banks LOSE €1.4BILLION in a day
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/674092/Eurozone-Spain-meltdown-shares-plummet-EU-Spanish-banks
And then Greece never really ever went away…
Greek debt crisis threatens to flare up ahead of Brexit vote
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/05/07/greek-debt-crisis-threatens-to-flare-up-ahead-of-brexit-vote/
ADD ‘Euro bound’ IMF euro critics of the UK (and then IMF finds itself having to apologise) whilst former and current both heads of the IMF ends up in the courts on separate state charges…
IMF admits disastrous love affair with the euro and apologises for the immolation of Greece
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/28/imf-admits-disastrous-love-affair-with-euro-apologises-for-the-i/
And then there’s Turkey.
Erdogan moves to tighten grip on Turkey after coup
(24 hours ago) Of course the BBC would prefer that we all went down the toilet together. The last one flushing would be Turkey sponsored by Erdogan which the BBC would describe as ‘a man’ who likes goats.
The BBC have so many times told us Turkey is a ‘secular’ country (thus acceptable to the EU). We just make all Europe Islamic and peace will reign on Earth. The BBC don’t believe in god, but they believe in Marxism.
‘Democracy is like a tram. You ride it until you arrive at your destination, then you step off’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3693768/Standing-blood-vengeance-against-coup-beaten-Facetime-Mail-Sunday-reporter-watches-savage-retribution-against-Turkey-plot-unfold-walks-bullet-ridden-military-vehicles.html
This is a quote from one Recep Tayyip Erdogan, (aged 62) a militant Islamic who since 2003 has revolutionist a secular country. He is accused of crushing protests, shutting down critical media (not the BBC unfortunately) and locking up opponents.
The BBC would agree with that statement. Through Islam to Marxism.
From beeb online: “The Republican presidential candidate responded to the killings in San Bernardino by proposing the suspension of all Muslim immigration to the US, a statement that sent chills up Muslim spines.”
Terrifying indeed: how will they conquer without fresh troops?
Slow news day at bbc news at 10. Top article, Rio olympics – snore!! Couldn’t give a monkeys, but made me laugh at the promises Rio haven’t fulfilled , like the polluted sea water!, then slavery (avoidable), then the Muslim couple speaking at the democrats conference in the us. So not political then. Not our election, bbc! Please can I have my money back?
I have to admit that I’m having trouble with the BBC’s reporting of the slavery story.
I thought that the BBC line is that we now have to accept that the UK is a multi-cultural society and that all cultures are equal. If we have welcomed a minority whose culture is to have slaves, are we not being judgemental, or even imperialistic, if we say that our moral standards are superior to their’s and they have to live by our standards?
Being White British I happen to think that my culture is superior to others and that people who choose to live in my country should be required to obey the laws of the country they have chosen to come to; but the standard BBC response to such a view is “Racist Bigot”.
What have I missed?
RJ, Good point.The BBC will really be in a fix if Muslims were found to be much more prone to having slaves then white folks.I suppose they would just kill off the story after all they have the power to do as they please.
Loobyloo, re the ‘Muslim couple’: I guess the BBC will pin that ‘post-it’ note to the Editorial Notice Board for future reference. Its no doubt given them an idea for putting devotees of their favourite religion on a pedestal. Fraid’ it’s a bit thin on the ground otherwise what with all the murder and mayhem their fellow Muslims are creating in Europe. Right now, they’re probably scouring the few Muslims currently in the armed forces to do just that for future reference.
A quick thought, surely when the Muslim serviceman (no females?) is attested and within that a declaration to support ‘Queen and Country’ he had to apply ‘Taqiyya’? BBC, lets have a documentary on this mental conflict and how the Muslim servicemen overcame the ‘attestation’ problem. Tag on the Muslim approach to women serving in the armed forces and, Hey Presto! you have the makings of a very interesting documentary.
Ah well, if Trump becomes President he’ll get the blame for everything that goes wrong in the world ………… and give Brexit a breather !
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=80467
UK Man wins court case against BBC. He refused to get a license because the biased reporting of 9/11. And He won.
well throw a slipper at a Mosque, We may have a chance to break their back after all.
Just don’t pay . Simples .
Except he didn’t win…..and the man’s a loon:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284337/TV-licence-evader-refused-pay-BBC-covered-facts-9-11.html
Rooke, who admitted owning a TV and watching it without a licence, was found guilty of using an unlicensed set, given a six-month conditional discharge and told to pay £200 costs……….Sentencing, Judge Nicholls said: “I have explained to Mr Rooke even if I were to accept his evidence I would be unable to find a defence.’
Not entirely sure of the bbc tack on this
Thousands march in Germany in support of Turkey’s President Erdogan
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36937891
But it reminds me of ‘you reap what you sow’
Also watching catchup of spring watch (yes, that sad), and the plight of the turtle dove which is in danger of human predation in Southern Europe but not in Africa (by omission)….they really do think we’re thick at the bbc.
Loobyloo, RT referred to, “hundreds” of protesters marching. Guess they got the arithmetic wrong for some clandestine Russian reason.
At last the government are getting tough on immigration.
They are going to deport……errrr…….an Australian family who have been here for about 10 years.
FFS
Just been watching that. Personally I don’t care where they come from if they don’t meet the rules they should be on the plane. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-36377458 The main defence appears to be that their sons first language is Gaelic. Despite the fact the parents speak English. So what do they do at home? Get a translator to ask the child, who didn’t utter a word in the interview, if he wants chips. Really?
“if they don’t meet the rules they should be on the plane.”
I’m not an expert on their situation but, as I understand it, the rules which they complied with were changed retrospectively. In other high profile cases, deportation has been ruled out for highly spurious reasons.
Speaking purely for myself, I do care where they came from, and I make no apology for saying so.
Agreed Maria, the “kith and kin” argument frequently and successfully deployed by those who aren`t kith and kin under the guise of “right to family life”.
Guess the Aussie family are part of the balance in the system….to be used as an example to prove it`s not waycist.
I agree with you in cases where all other considerations are ok (i.e. no fraud, no criminality, no conflict with cultural norms ) British stock should confer advantage in Britain.
And retrospective imposition of migration law is against natural justice…an argument you can be sure will be heavily deployed as Brexit proceeds.
And I care what you think because?
Your reaction is a matter of complete indifference to me.
A great deal of attention given to Cameron’s draft crony awards list this morning.
Quite right too but it’s hardly new, is it?
Anyone remember Marcia Williams, later Baroness Falkender?
Fred the Shred and team.
Sir Philip Green.
Baroness Scotland, Amos, Uddin
Lord Kinnock. Prescott, Ahmed
Sir Clement Freud, Sir Jimmy Savile, Sir Robert Maxwell.
Yes-Cameron only continues a long line of left/liberal appointed gonads appointed by “The Beautiful People”.
And, to be fair to Cameron-he`s probably not selling them in return for party funds as did Blair.
But no less oily and nasty….
The recommendation of Will Straw though really sticks in one’s craw, unless of course its for service to Brexit.
What with Kinnocks boy having to cover up the fact that he sent his kid to the (very private and expensive) Atlantic College…and now Jack Straw the Second and his CBE..does make you wonder what happened to all this class and toff stuff does`nt it?
Corbyn could do us all a favour if he and his henchmen could clear out these prancing woolsack wankers who seem to have a claim on taxes that other better people had no choice to pimp off.
Unlike them.
I favour The New World Observer as the only site packed with honest information on the ongoing invasion of Europe. I particularly welcome the cited sources or photographic evidence provided. To those devotees of the Conspiracy Theory and the Grand Plan and the New World Order, today they will welcome this article – http://newobserveronline.com/un-supplying-invasion-europe/
I didn’t realise that the UN and Soros appear to be behind the invasion. Yes, actually aiding and abetting.
Assuming they don’t know, Europeans are likely to be exposed as never before to new Islamic invaders shortly – http://newobserveronline.com/turkey-issues-ultimatum-eu/
I wonder what the EU’s sole leader thinks about this in view of her affirmative position on the existing invasion and even more invaders? Importantly, what the German people with think – assuming their national broadcaster gives them the info………………………
OT: I cancelled Sky (finally) this morning.
Hi Sky News Team,
More pointless, un-evidenced climate change scare mongering on your site today, I see.
http://news.sky.com/story/eco-safeguards-urged-as-arctic-ice-retreats-10518896
I thought you guys left that sort of political meddling to the BBC (and it’s little helper, Channel 4). Pathetic. You’re just as bad, if not worse than the BBC. I thought I was paying for an alternative voice in the liberal-dominated current affairs msm in this country. Seems I was wrong. These days, the only truly alternative voice in current affairs comes from the likes of RT. It’s a parlous state of affairs. Between Sky’s reporting on the recent Islamic terrorist attacks (pitiable, low-grade stuff), the channel’s undisguised disdain for anything to do with Trump (the sneer is clear) and a continual willingness to parrot CAGW propaganda without any attempt at rational scientific criticism… well, I think you know where this is headed.
Time to have a chat with Sky Customer Services about cancelling my 4 year-old subscription. I need to make some economies and getting rid of yet another biased, left-leaning current affairs provider (the existing market is so short of them, after all, don’t you think?) seems like a good place to start. A shame we had to fall out like this – but I’ve really had enough. I can’t ever get rid of the BBC without having to go without a TV completely, but at least with Sky I can decide to put myself out of your misery.
Regards,
I then called Customer Services and cancelled my Sky subscription, effective from 1st September. It’s been something I’ve been thinking about for a while, but recent p*sspoor coverage of the Islamic terrorist attacks across Europe (don’t mention the ‘m-word’), Sky’s undisguised contempt for Trump and incessant climate change bollox all add up to = better off without Sky.
On the upside, I get to keep my Sky HD box which now becomes a Freeview box. £34 better off a month into the bargain. Result. I feel better already!
You’ll still get Sky News! You won’t be able to use the box to record or play back though, when the subscription expires.
Fair enough – but at least I won’t be paying those trolls any more. That’s gotta be a plus, right..?
“Dozens of prominent French Muslims and Prime Minister Manuel Valls have called for a national drive TO PROMOTE MAINSTREAM ISLAM and combat the radicalisation of young Muslims.”
(beeb headline today, capitals mine)
Is it just me or do those sound like weasel words to proselytise Islam, no doubt at tax payers’ expense and with full government backing?
Stage 2 of Jihad? (Get the dim dhimmis to PAY for it – brilliant!)
Time will tell.
Maybe I’m paranoid but remember Taquiya, lying to spread Islam)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36939601
Michel Houellebecq’s ‘Submission’. It’s all in there. You can find it on Amazon (books).
Agreed ObiWan.
Most important piece of European fiction for years.
Describes the louche, amoral university lecturer who betrays his Jewish girlfriend who moves to Israel, as he conveniently becomes a Muslim to keep his job.
So plausible-the amoral, unthinking reflex lefty betrays the Jewish friend for a more pleasing life, pick of the Muslim girls now available in classes(and others who need less consideration if they are to pass)-and, , as a bloke-he need not fear of not getting plenty better jobs now the women have been removed from the top ones at the university.
No one in Britain could write it-for Houellebecq reveals his own anomie and is unsparing in that of his fellow lefties and intellectuals-we have no tradition of independent thought in our culture anymore, unless its online and out of MSM influence.
Came out on the day of Charlie Hebdo…showed clearly the plausible ratcheting up of Islamic domination of France, via sole use of the education sector( guess what, Islam only wants THAT?-so they`re as perceptive as the west isn`t…I mean, Nicki Morgan?…Estelle Morris?..say no more!).
And the best bit to me is that the French electorate are soothed and corralled into the Islamic pen, because they`d rather have a Left-Islam Alliance in power than the far more popular FN.
That sounds all to right to me…wonder if the BBC will do a “History Man” on this prophetic book?
As if…
“…wonder if the BBC will do a “History Man” on this prophetic book?”
No chance. They ignored it when it was published; they’ve ignored its international success (both critically and commercially) and they’ll keep right on ignoring it. It doesn’t fit the BBC narrative. Ergo, it doesn’t exist.
I therefore urge everyone here to get a copy and read it. The word I’m looking for is ‘prescient’.
‘Alarming’ might be another.
Mr Muhiddin Mire is sentenced to life imprisonment for the attempted Jihadi murder of a tube passenger, and tryinf to behead him.
Amazing how the media is ever willing to repeat the meme “you ain’t no Muslim bruv” but not the fact that Mire is a Somali migrant who arrived here during the BLiar mass migration ruination of Britain years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36942245
Despite the fact of the media being coy about the mans origin, even the Guardian can manage to report that he came to Britain as a young boy from Somalia, yet the BBC can’t even manage to type the words !
Wonder why ?
Just missed Classic FM Global Woes and they had the ‘story’.
Seems he’s going to serve ‘life’, for a minimum of 8 1/2 years.
Next story is about the rise ‘hate crime’.
Give it 9 years tossers, and you may just see another surge in the one that matters.
More enrichment by Academy School staff stealing government (our) money:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36943526
Although its reported on Radio 4 PM it’s buried away in the regional news section:
Bradford Kings Science academy staff convicted of fraud
The founder of a flagship academy and two members of staff have been found guilty of defrauding the government out of £150,000.
Sajid Raza, 43, Shabana Hussain, 40, and Daud Khan, 44, made payments from Department for Education (DfE) grants into their own bank accounts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-36943526
Even then the BBC manage to put some anti Tory spin on the affair, as the hopelessly credulous Camoron opened the school in 2011. Always ready to believe the Disney version of Muslims, yet again he’s another leader to find its bitten him on the arse. A good job he’s no longer in charge !
Ok folks, have a read at this pathetic drivel. I mean, how could we possibly get it so wrong? Of course the Socialist Worker is here to help: it’s capitalism and right-wing racism that’s to blame for Islamist terrorism.
https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/43126/Migration+didnt+cause+the+attacks+in+Germany
For the love of god, I just don’t understand how anyone can subscribe to this socialist left-wing gibberish and cobblers. It’s outright lies, fantasy and mumbo jumbo. I suppose when you’re out of your face on weed everyday and are subjected to sociology modules on your contemporary theatre degree this makes great reading. Its readership will get a shock when they grow up and have to pay back their student loans.
Compare & contrast this report by the BBC and its reporting of Islamic terror.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-36941296
Here we have a bona fide diagnosed Schizophrenic who has committed a gruesome murder . Undoubtedly he was failed by the socialised NHS which should never have discharged him from secure care.
Mr Lound (the victim) was gay and occasionally cross-dressed and Arnold (the killer) considered his victim to be “a weirdo”
So the murder is described as ‘Homophobic’ and ‘transphobic’. Odd that, because when some Islamist murders several people in the name of his religion, and even if he is never diagnosed as being mentally ill, that illness is diagnosed post attack by the media.
Muhiddin Mire (diagnosed Schizo) Is not described by the BBC as an Islamist nor is it a ‘hate crime’ nor ‘racist’ or ‘Xenophobic’ which it would have been if the perpetrator had been a white Christian.
Discrimination is defined in law as treatment different on the ground of race religion disability etc etc. And on that basis I’m going to call the BBC out as anti white racist, xenophobic and anti every other religion & none, due to its blatant Islamophillia !
BBC News at 6 now. Lead story about Dave’s honours list. I think the honours system is a load of crap and should be abolished. But is this really the biggest story in the world today ? Only in the tiny twisted minds of the BBC morons. They are pathetic. They have just looked at previous PM’s but did not mention Wilson. BBC garbage !