390 Responses to START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD….

  1. johnnythefish says:

    The demonic pursuit of Exxon by the crazed climate change zealot and New York Attorney General, Eric Schneiderman, is unravelling big time as reported here:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/29/journalist-exxonknew-is-completely-unraveling/

    Well the latest is that his campaign is completely unraveling. First of all, it was a phony-bologna case to begin with, that Exxon had done these studies in the 70s on climate change and then lied to the public about what it had found. It didn’t. It published these studies in journals and made them available to everybody and they’ve been available ever since, so there was no mystery here.

    But the other this is that Eric Schneiderman claimed he had assembled 17 Attorneys General – all the Democratic Attorneys General in the state, in the US – to follow this case with him, and it’s increasing clear that that was just a lie. He committed his own fraud. Massachusetts and the U.S. Virgin Islands signed on for a while, but now they’ve melted away. California claimed it was going to launch an investigation and it never did.

    However, Googling ‘bbc #exxonknew’ the best I could come up with was this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36386001

    A sort of ‘scratching-of-head-why-are-Exxon-shareholders-stuck-in-the-dark-ages-over-climate-change’ piece.

    The second and last burst of applause in the meeting came on the question of freedom of speech.

    This is a very big issue for Exxon Mobil as the shareholders believe current investigations into the alleged undermining of climate science are an assault on their First-Amendment rights.

    “The fact that people have different opinions on climate change; they have every right to their opinion, whether we agree with it or not – I will support their right to say so,” said Mr Tillerson to a hefty ovation.

    It is a little ironic, then, that he did not want to extend that same right to all of the press, as the Guardian newspaper was told it was not welcome at the shareholder meeting.

    The more under the cosh Exxon feels, the less likely it is to embrace the ideas of outsiders, however mild.

    If its shareholders are really ready to take the steps many want on climate change or indeed anything else, green groups will need to find another means.

    They will not be told.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36386001

    Worth keeping an eye on any further BBC reporting of this but expect a deafening silence as the BBC 28gate eco-socialist zealots circle the corporation’s Prius fleet to protect the guilty.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Solar Astronomers and Atmospheric Physicists do not get any science from either right-wing Oil companies like Exxon Mobil or left-wing Environmental Organisations like Greenpeace. But the truth is that like all intelligent people, the Republicans talk to independent Solar Astronomers and Atmospheric Physicists, while low IQ Democrats like the W1A morons at the BBC, go to scientifically ignorant Environmental activists.

      The BBC‘s censorship policy for climate science, scientists and scientific debate was a result of the BBC not inviting any Solar Astronomers and Atmospheric Physicists to its moronic Environmental activist dominated Climate seminar. But I believe that these Attorney General’s are now defying a U.S. Congressional subpoena from the US Congress Science Committee. So like Climate Change itself, a left-wing subpoena based on assumptions, fails because outside of a fascist state, you need facts. And the United States Constitution still blocks Hilary Clintons Liberal fascist dream.

      These Democrats are now defying the Constitution, by not providing evidence to the US Congress Science Committee subpoena. I presume because like the left-wing Climate dogma, the Democrats have only “wishful thinking” assumptions, not supported by any evidence.

      What do the Democrats Attorney General’s do, those that can, run away, pretend nothing happened. Those that cannot escape would have to go to jail, either for assumptions being treated as facts, or for defying a Congress subpoena. Either that, or they may be waiting for Hilary Clintons Liberal fascist demolition of the US Constitution, starting next year with the burning down of Congress.

      All we now need is the start of the promised cross party Judicial Review into the BBC‘s censorship policy for climate science, scientists and scientific debate.

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  2. Mackers says:

    Bbc staff are multi talented so many doing so many different jobs. They are presenters weatherpeople quiz show hosts political experts comedians all capable of doing each other’s work. A remarkable team of allrounders. Hugh Pym is my favourite he’s bbc news editor on everything.

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    • manchesterlad says:

      Yes Mackers, they’re incredible aren’t they? Even more impressive is the number of their children that also turn out to be ideal for jobs too!

      I suppose normal employment competition rules don’t really need to apply to the leftist master race?

      After all, that would only be denying us (the public) the benefits of their superior skill.

      I always amazes me how Dan Snow (son of Peter Snow) suddenly appeared on our screens a few years ago, straight into presenter roles without even seeming to work his way up. It’s amazing how he must have just been the ‘best man for the job’ when it came to those challenging interviews for the post. What are the odds?

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      • G says:

        Manchesterlad, your first paragraph: are you suggesting that those people you refer to are in mixed marriages? Only this would account for the increasing number of black and ‘tanned’, ‘of middle-eastern appearance’, ‘Asian’ (and all the lovely other descriptions) of those appearing for, ‘The Worlds Most Trusted….’

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  3. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    The BBC really ought to be in favour of the hereditary peers in the House of Lords but, strangely, they and their beloved Labour Party are not. After all, if it’s good enough for Richard, David and Jonathan Dimbleby, the Coren tribe (Alan, Victoria, Giles and now David Mitchell by marriage) the Gompertz brothers (Simon and Will)…

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  4. chrisH says:

    Well done BBC!
    Off Sarah Rainsford pops across to Moscow to see how Putin deals with dissenters.
    Not very well apparently-who knew?
    Sarah seemed to be troubled by tales of ballot rigging, social media monitoring, police roughing up demonstrators, banning marches and re-routing them if indeed they`re able to proceed at all, criminalising legitimate demos re the incompetence of Putin etc…
    Well done Sarah!
    And then I think of Tommy Robinson in a Cambridge pub, PEGIDA marching silently in ghost suburbs of Birmingham, Lutfur Rahman and his Tower Hamlets postal ballot frauds and those of Falkirks Labour Party.
    If I were Tommy-I`d send all footage to RT,and get them to make a hour hour doc on how anti-democratic, threatening, corrupt and physically nasty and bullying OUR authorities are when THEIR consensus is being got at.
    Cambridge and Mile End a good deal nearer-same story, but hey….if Pegida and Tommy end up like Trotsky and the Mensheviks…as long as the Good Rebellion goes unquestioned eh Sarah?

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    • Dave S says:

      The most dangerous and corrupting of illusions that infest the liberal hive minds of the BBC/elite is that they are the true freedom loving and free speech defenders .
      That somehow a conservative is the very opposite of the perfect man or woman that these self styled BBC children regard as the only legitimate voices that should now be permitted to speak.
      This hive is but a short step away from a real and vicious assault upon our traditional way of life and our people. Those who comment here from the BBC hive need to understand that this hive has chosen it’s path and it is going to have to walk it come what comes.
      Our path is different . The two paths will never meet again.

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  5. chrisH says:

    Truly hard to believe that we share a gene pool with people like this

    And even more hard to believe that these people are much the same as the liberal left under the likes of Tonge, Corbyn and Galloway-only ruder and more naive.

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  6. Dover Sentry says:

    I was in Germany three weeks ago visiting with my son a German family I have known for many years.

    I asked about Angela Merkel’s decision to allow in thousands of muslims and the answer was simply a shrug of the shoulders. I mentioned Brexit and the response was that it was all a mistake and that in a couple of years the British may be allowed back as members of the EU. It was said to me with a degree of smugness that the pound was in free fall and that the British economy was now a mess.

    It was also said that the British were abandoning Europe and failing to take their share of muslim migrants.

    This from a family I have known for many years and certainly not left of centre.(His father was a German soldier in WW2 and was eternally grateful for being captured by the British rather than the Russians).

    The German media in my opinion have driven the debate towards ‘Remain’.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Presumably they get their understanding of the economic mess we are in mainly from Al Beeb. It certainly won’t help our Brexit negotiation if they think we are on our knees begging for scraps.

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  7. Mackers says:

    The debate over the american footballer not standing is growing a definite plus for trump I may increase my wager.in Germany the bias must be worse than here.

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  8. SquirePraggerstope says:

    More convenient selective reporting by Auntie on the News Channel just now regarding the long running saga of the Calais non-refugees and frustrated squeaks from various French politicians who wish to unload thousands of them onto Britain. Hollande, we are informed, ”supports” the existing agreement permitting UK customs officers to prevent asylum seekers crossing the channel illegally. Yet ”two of the main candidates” for the next French presidential election are seemingly intent on solving the problem of the camps for good.

    We are told that ”one of these is former president Sarkozy” (cut to clip of the poison dwarf saying he would abrogate the Le Touquet deal) -and thereby empty the camps via the simple expedient of facilitating migrants getting onto ferries or through the tunnel. This is, of course, all our own fault for voting for Brexit.

    Er… and that’s it. Report over. The BBC seems somehow reluctant to go on and identify the other ”main candidate”.

    Could this possibly be just because it’s the demon Le Pen woman?

    Or is it that Auntie disapproves of her preferred solution, which far from simply ratting on the deal with Britain and passing the asylum parcel over to Dover, is to bulldoze the camps and deport the residents back to their places of origin?

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Until Brexit is achieved I would have thought that we would be within our rights in tipping them out of their lorries at Dover and sending them straight back under the Dublin Agreement. Preferably on a French ferry so they have the problem.

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  9. Dover Sentry says:

    I would like to live in Australia but their immigration ‘points’ system prevents me from doing so.

    Maybe I should do the following as inspired by Calais?

    1. Live in a tent on the M4 central reservation approaching Heathrow.

    2. Refuse to leave until I have been granted residency in Australia.

    3. Tell the BBC that I have no modern sanitation and that I am in danger of harm from capitalist traffic when I try to obtain basic food supplies.

    4. Tell the BBC that I face hostility and threats from passing motorists which are obviously racial.

    5. When joined by fellow British campers, we could form a commune and erect a cardboard church in defiance.

    6. Cumberbatch and Sir Bob Geldof would have a permanent invites to attend. Perhaps Sir Bob would shelter me in his home? He promised the same for Syrian immigrants back in September. I expect he has kept his promise…

    7. I could create mountains of litter and filth (as in Calais) which would further my cause.

    8. I could grow a beard and say I was only 12 years old. This would fast track my case. My fourth cousin in Sydney who I have never met could vouch for the slaughter and torture of all my family in Chipping Norton by rampant and mentally ill Quakers and Norwegians.

    9. Where can I buy a cheap tent?

    ..

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    • Helena Hand-Basket says:

      Thanks for the laugh, Dover Sentry! But, as a Sydney resident, I think there is a more reliable way of gaining residence here. Arrive on a tourist visa. Leave all your clothes and identifying documents on Bondi beach. Swim out to sea. (The media will record yet another sad drowning of an unwary foreign tourist.) You emerge further up the coast, where you have buried a suitcase containing a bullet-riddled Koran, a luxuriant false beard and a bloodstained robe. Claim refugee status, in broken English. Tell your story to all the TV stations and politicians – they’re as appalling a bunch Islamophile virtue-signallers as the UK establishment. Claim the anti-immigration One Nation party beat you up. They’ll never be able to get rid of you.

      But seriously, don’t imagine Australia is some paradise with no immigration problems. Various groups have arrived here on refugee schemes and suchlike, who just aren’t subject to the same standards the British are. We have quite a large Islamic population. Many came here after Lebanon’s 1976 civil war. The then Prime Minister, Malcolm Fraser, was warned not to take them, as many were unskilled illiterates of questionable character, but he ignored it. Many have been quite a problem.

      And some so-called refugees really do seem to get away with murder. Look at Man Monis, who gained political asylum from Iran. Despite some appalling behaviour here, he wasn’t ejected. About eighteen month ago he took hostages in a siege at a Sydney cafe. Two died.

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      • Maria Brewin says:

        Doesn’t surprise me. I recall problems on Bondi a few years ago. Muslim men trying to claim an area as their own, as they tend to do everywhere.

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      • engineerdownunder says:

        Today on R4 this morning reported that the British man who intervened in the Townsville stabbing has also died. HouseMuslim Mishel asked the “reporter” “what do we know about the attack?”. Answer was limited to the alleged attacker being French and his name. That was it. That was all we know. How is it reported in Oz?

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Wednesday Brexit prog Does BBC use an independent voice or someone who just fed doubt ? Go on guess

    11am Wed R4 Brexit: The Leavocrats with Gus O’Donnell, who was in the papers 2 days ago saying ‘Brexit is not inevitable and Britain could remain in the EU’

    Lord Gus O’Donnell, the former head of the British Civil Service, returns to Whitehall to find out how his ex-colleagues are gearing up to take on what’s been described as the Service’s greatest challenge since the Second World War – making Brexit happen.

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  11. Kennedy says:

    The other day, a link was posted to an article about Kenyan closing the Daabab refugee camp and sending people back to Somalia. Here’s another article about immigration policy:

    http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000213890

    The government of Kenya is reiterating its policy that there is no need for foreigners to do jobs that Kenyans can do. Seems like a sensible policy to me.

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  12. EnglandExpects says:

    Massive BBC coverage of migration today. Rescues off coast of Libya, report of uk arrests of illegals running at 27,000. Embedded reporters in Calais and Dover including the ever gloomy sounding regular , Matthew Price.
    It’s all a bit more subtle than before. Less bleeding heart, interviewing lorry drivers sympathetically rather then just pushing the migrants’ case.
    So what’s the objective? Just embarrassing the government perhaps? Maybe a campaign to eventually show the problem is insoluble so just give in and open the floodgates ? The motive certainly won’t be to support the case for getting net migration down below 100,000!!

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Another 6,000 plus picked up from the Med yesterday, I’m surprised there’s anyone left in Africa. How many of that 6,000 will reach Calais? Its reported that the Jungle is nearing 10,000 bodies, yet there’s almost a shrugging of shoulders on the media with calls for the UK to take in the children. Why ? There comes a point when doing what’s ‘morally right’ doesn’t hold water anymore – France doesn’t have any ‘moral’ responsibility so why should we ? Perhaps it needs a flying squad of boat assassins to be permanently stationed on the coastline of Libya to disable any potential sea craft, seaworthy or not, – that would cripple the travel arrangements of the bastards somewhat.

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      • G says:

        Brissles, some French Politico’s maintain that UK Asylum should be granted IN France. I wonder, would they support a similar grant of Asylum as soon as the French water-taxi arrives to pick up the ‘Refugees’ just outside Libyan waters?

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    • KatieH says:

      The wrights stuff on 5 have been banging on this morning about calais and taking in the illegals as if they are entitled to be her. They had this corbyn loving thatcher hating imbecile Oliver James on saying it was our duty. He also told us Corbyn is the only leader that the country deserves.

      His twatter is here https://twitter.com/oliverj_psych. Enjoy.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        KH …….Oliver James on saying it was our duty…

        If anything gets my hackles raised its the term “our duty”. Is it f…! Duty ? for what ? helping Africa and Asia to take root in the UK? Over the past 60 years I’ve seen our forces sent overseas to fight, help stabilise, and protect various peoples/countries around the world as though it was OUR responsibility to do so. Bulls…t ! Many voices were of one accord during these conflicts, saying “why do WE have to go and poke our nose in,”, exactly. Why IS it our duty, moral or otherwise, to be the policeman, social worker, charitable worker and free health provider of the sodding world ? Scandinavia isn’t, Asia isn’t, Russia isn’t, and leaving out the Vatican City and Monaco, we are one of the smallest nations in the EU yet our bloody politicians have to put their hands up and say “please Sir, we’ll do it “.

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  13. Maria Brewin says:

    The Spectator highlights a BBC trait we are all familiar with:

    LISTEN: BBC’s appalling comedy sketch attack on ‘working class’ ITV viewers

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    • Demon says:

      Why do left-wing “comedians” have such nasty faces? Clearly when they are so full of hate and bile it is reflected in their looks.

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  14. peterthegreat says:

    So, what’s lying-beeb not telling us today?
    – Merkel gets nasty: ‘It is UNACCEPTABLE’- Merkel sends warning to EU states opposing migrant quotas’ (In case anyone’s been on Mars, or only getting so called ‘news’ from so-called bbc, East Europe is sensibly saying ‘Thanks but no thanks’ to any more Islamic enrichment).

    – Wave of local protests forces cancellation of plans for refugee centre in Germany.

    – Briton dies after Australian attack – failing to mention the attacker’s background or what he shouted at time of attack and subsequent arrest. Clue: Starts with two A’s and wasn’t Advance Australia Fair.

    – and on and on, why do I even bother?
    http://www.express.co.uk/

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  15. Sluff says:

    I think this may be a new bBBC low.
    On Toady this morning, Mischel ‘useless’ Hussein interviewed a lawyer about a forthcoming murder trial.

    Nothing untoward. Except that the trial is a fiction. It is not real but part of the plot of ‘The Archers’ later this week. And this, on the ‘flagship’ ‘news’ programme.

    Yours for only £4bn per annum.
    Words fail me.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Did Mishal offer any thoughts on the acceptable number of deaths necessary before it could even be called ‘murder’?

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    • Oaknash says:

      Sluff – I actually have buggered my car radio tuner when I heard this as I hit the tuner/off button a little too hard – Bloody unbelievable!

      I suppose we shouldnt have been surprised really as it was just the BBC doing what Aunty does best. – PURE BLOODY FICTION!

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  16. Number 6 says:

    From jihadwatch

    So called bbc have already pre-empted this….

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/08/kerry-media-should-cover-terrorism-less-so-that-people-wouldnt-know-whats-going-on

    Kerry: Media should cover terrorism less so that “people wouldn’t know what’s going on”

    AUGUST 29, 2016 5:41 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER 62 COMMENTS

    You see, he wants people not to know what’s going on, so that they don’t start in any significant numbers demanding real action and an honest approach to the motivating ideology behind jihad terror. He wants to keep people ignorant and complacent so that they don’t question the administration’s suicidal approach to the jihad threat and the Muslim migrant influx.

    Kerry in Bangladesh: Media Should Cover Terrorism Less,” by Jeryl Bier, Weekly Standard, August 29, 2016:

    During Secretary of State John Kerry’s first official visit to Bangladesh, he met with top Bangladeshi government officials and held a press conference at the Edward M. Kennedy Center in Dhaka. In light of recent terror attacks in that country, Kerry addressed the problem of terrorism, including root causes and how the terrorists spread their message. The secretary said that the media could “do us all a service” by reducing coverage of terror attacks:

    Remember this: No country is immune from terrorism. It’s easy to terrorize. Government and law enforcement have to be correct 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. But if you decide one day you’re going to be a terrorist and you’re willing to kill yourself, you can go out and kill some people. You can make some noise. Perhaps the media would do us all a service if they didn’t cover it quite as much. People wouldn’t know what’s going on. (Applause.)…

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    • peterthegreat says:

      “People wouldn’t know what’s going on.” Beeb have been doing that for years. For once I’m proud of our beeb, way ahead of American Secretary of State.

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    • G says:

      Sorry No.6, but the BBC and other National Broadcasters in the EU are complying with this view already: they are all dealing very selectively with terrorism.

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  17. Number 6 says:

    Also from jihadwatch,more evidence of Germany’s pending implosion

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/08/german-army-has-admitted-over-60-suspected-islamic-state-jihadis-into-its-ranks

    “German army wants security checks for recruits after admitting more than 60 Isil suspects in its ranks,” by James Rothwell, Telegraph, August 28, 2016 • 4:31pm

    The German army has said it wants tougher security checks on recruits after admitting that more than 60 Islamists are suspected of infiltrating its ranks.

    In a draft amendment seen by German newspaper Welt am Sonntag, senior Bundeswehr officials said all applicants should be screened by the intelligence services for jihadist links before they begin basic training.

    And they disclosed that 64 Islamists are already feared to have embedded themselves within the armed forces, along with 268 right-wing extremists and six left-wing extremists.

    Terrorists are attracted to the army because they can use the training to plot future terror attacks in Germany, the document added.

    “The German army trains all of its members in the handling and usage of weapons of war,” it said, “[terrorists] could use those skills acquired in the army to carry out well-prepared acts of violence at home or abroad.”

    The proposals would lead to a major overhaul of the country’s recruiting policy as under the current system soldiers are only checked for Islamist ties once they have enlisted.

    They would also require an extra 90 military officials to be hired in order to carry out a further 20,000 checks per year.

    The reforms, which would cost an estimated 8.2 million euros (£6.9m) per year, are expected to be approved by German commanders next week, Welt am Sonntag reported….

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    • Dave S says:

      Is the German army of any use at all? Somehow I doubt it. Merkel will have made sure that it has been hollowed out in true Gramscian manner. No doubt this is a factor.

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  18. EnglandExpects says:

    Radio 4 Today end-piece . Two left wing historians try to compare Suez 1956 with Brexit. The BBC love to analyse Suez, they revel in End of Empire, the decline of Britain and Europe generally. The more balanced case based on the dangerous precedent set by Nasser in deserting the West for Russia, the start of the long term disaster for the Middle East of ‘socialist’ anti democratic Arab Nationalist rulers, the shortsighted view of America in failing to support it’s allies, is all ignored . The BBCs tame leftist historians find many similarities between Suez and Brexit . A balancing viewpoint from a more substantial figure would have been welcome. Alas, none.

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    • Number 6 says:

      Those remoaners….. still dont realise the fact that THEY LOST- GET OVER IT

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      • Dave S says:

        Incorrect thinking. They did not lose .The voters failed to understand their real interests and now need to be re educated.
        Mrs May and her lot will now assume the sacred task of correcting what has been a regrettable failure of the true democratic will of the nation.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Suez was indeed a disaster. Britain and France won militarily, but were stabbed in the back by the USA, which seemed to be living in some sort of fantasy world in which Arab national socialism was a Good Thing.

      One outcome of Suez was the Treaty of Rome, which France signed in a fit of pique in 1957 to punish the Americans for being so stupid.

      Overall, I’d say that Suez was America’s, not Britain’s, worst foreign policy mistake since World War II.

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      • Demon says:

        Rob. that’s exactly how I’ve understood it from people alive at that time.

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          Agreed. I heard Lord Owen on a radio programme recently. He said that in 1956, as a Young Socialist, he was canvassing Plymouth, expecting the workers to oppose British aggression and stand up for “international law”. Instead, he was shocked to find that they were robustly patriotic, and couldn’t wait to get stuck in to the Gyppoes.

          Lord Owen has grown up since then, and is now a decent sort. However, I can’t help thinking that the more hateful of his Labour comrades might have learned the lesson that the white working class cannot be trusted, and that new, more pliable voters must be brought in. It’s as good an explanation for the madness of mass third world immigration as needing cheap workers for the dying textiles industry.

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      • RJ says:

        “Overall, I’d say that Suez was America’s, not Britain’s, worst foreign policy mistake since World War II.2

        Eisenhower said that the biggest mistake he made as President was not backing Britain and France over Suez.

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  19. Deborah says:

    Radio 4 Tuesday – interviewing an American – I didn’t catch his name and it used to be that by going to the Today home page you would get the programme running order with their guests – no longer it seems. Turns out after a lot of pontificating about Brexit that the American was/is an advisor on the Labour party economic committee but the committee had not met since the turbulence began. But what I found even more interesting that between this man and Justin reference was made to David Blanchflower being on this Labour Party committee, because whenever he is invited onto the BBC for his usually wrong economic opinions he is always introduced as ‘a member of the Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee (which he only did for 3 years and his appointment ended 7 years ago) and he is presented as an independent observer rather than a political appointee (although of course those of us regularly seeing this site know just what his politics are).
    Oh – and the Today site – story about the Asylum Seekers and allowing them to apply for assylum in the UK whilst still in France would be like a ‘magnet’ – the BBC’s quote marks not mine, a report on the Polar Ocean Challenge (ie climate change) and Owen Smith on needing a second referendum for Brexit some days ago – none of these really news – even the French call for the assylum is grandstanding with the BBC adding fuel.

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  20. Roland Deschain says:

    This morning’s Today interviewed two people with regard to Apple’s impending Irish tax bill. Now who might we all think suitable to discuss this? I suspect we’d all come up with many different names, but I doubt many would have thought a Green MEP (whose name I didn’t catch and it isn’t on the website running order).

    As an aside, under what provision can you go back to a company and say “Sorry, but what we agreed was your tax bill actually isn’t, because it’s been decided we charged too low a rate and we’re going to go back several years and recalculate”? Surely Apple would be entitled to tell them to **** off?

    Or is this just another manifestation of what Tommy Robinson found out, that the law is whatever our lords and masters say it is at any time?

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    • G says:

      Or, Roland, preferably, ‘we paid the tax you levied – any shortfall, Ireland, you pick up the tab’. What do you think?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Molly Scott Cato MEP @MollyMEP
      Green MEP for the South West of England and Gibraltar; Green Party speaker on Brexit and on Finance
      (The trick is to search Twitter of the phrase R4Today or bbcr4today ..and then click the LIVE button)
      She was on R4 Any Questions a few weeks back. Certain people , especially Greens seem to be given their own set of master keys to get into BBC studios, whereas with other people the BBC practices GATEKEEPING. Lord Lawson, Skeptical scientists, UKIP politicians etc. are kept off air except for token appearances or set-ups for monstering.
      todaygreen.jpg

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      • StewGreen says:

        another tweet points out how out of touch the Green was.
        They’d just aired a report about the Arctic ice not melting as predicted..yet she whinged about melting ice.todaygreen2.jpg

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    • JimS says:

      Companies hope to make a certain return on their capital to retain shareholders and to pay off any borrowed funds. This is on top of costs such as wages, rents, raw materials and taxes.

      If governments increase the imposed taxes then in order to maintain the return on capital the company will need to increase its income and the easiest, (though not necessarily the best), way is to increase prices.

      The result of that is that the ‘fat cats’ get to keep their money and the poor plebs get to pay indirectly the taxes that they were bleating should come from the international companies. In the worst possible scenario the companies up sticks, so pay no taxes or wages locally, but we still get to pay the higher prices!

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  21. StewGreen says:

    #bbcPetIssue Bingo ..switched on R4 at 10am to hear Green leader Natalie Bennett ..It’s just a free advert for the Green Party cos their leadership election has already taken place, so there is no point in discussing it until the results are announced on Friday, so the item is just an homage to Nutilly Bennett

    On Friday the Green Party announces who will stand as their next leader, almost four years to the day since their outgoing leader Natalie Bennett took over. She joins Jane to discuss the highs and lows of her time as party leader, what it was like sharing a platform with the party leaders during last year’s General Election, and why Parliament should encourage flexible working.

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    • Number 6 says:

      “and why Parliament should encourage flexible working.”

      you mean that’s not they way it has been for years?

      house of lords seems very flexible to me to the point of walk in,walk out,£300 please

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    • GCooper says:

      The BBC has been dishing out endless publicity for the ‘Green’ movement for years and never misses an opportunity to advocate its policies and ideas. It tries to disguise it by wrapping it up in programmes pretending to be about rural issues but the political angle is always there.

      No matter how little support there is for the Green Party, the BBC can be relied upon to champion its idiotic notions.

         19 likes

  22. Roland Deschain says:

    Talking of the Today running order, I’m devastated to see I missed this one:

    0829

    This year sea ice in the Arctic has been melting at one of the highest rates on record. Peter Wadhams is professor of Ocean Physics at the University of Cambridge and author of A Farewell To Ice.

    Can those who did tell me if it was as bad as it sounds?

       9 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      R4Today audio MH “Northabout has already made it thru the NE Passage, but encountered more ice than it bargained for”
      David Hempellwell Adams ” …to the Laptus sea which caused us our delays with all the ice..and we were very lucky to get thru this year ..oddly enough looking at the ice charts it’s closed behind us now..then we went into the Siberian sea and just left it today … We’ve passed the 180 degree mark” ..
      (He sounded quite positive that they would make it and not get trapped again ..mentioned one bit of ice coming they’re going south to skirt it.) (I’ve got him down as more of a realist than a GreenBlobby)

      Michal Hussein (BBC’s head of deceiving narratives) “This years SEA ice in the Arctic has been melting at one of the highest rates on record” (is that true ?)
      MH : “It one of the things prof Peter Wadhams monitors closely”…”His book A Farewell to Ice is published this week”
      PW “It retreating quite fast, it’s thinning, the main thing is the structure is changing..most ice is much younger than it used to be ..It’s only less than a year old (really ?)…So it’s shrinking in area so that we can expect….
      WITHIN A FEW YEARS, BEFORE VERY LONG THERE WILL BE A PERIOD IN THE LATE SUMMER WHEN IT WILL BE ESSENTIALLY ICE-FREE (Mumbles) we have quite reached that.”

      PW “Already possible to negotiate the outside edge of the ocean in summer , which is ice free (not continually or easily) and sail around..but the central part will be ice free as well ..mumble mumble.”
      MH “..That’s a bit different from some of your earlier assessments .like the book says”possibly ice-free by the time its out….do you think that you have been A LITTLE TOO ALARMIST IN THE PAST ??”
      PW “NO I don’t think so, NOT AT ALL, because in the world of nature there are trends and there are fluctuations, such as we have with weather …and the TREND has been ENORMOUSLY downwards”…”reducing area, reducing thickness of ice has been a very strong downward trend” ..”We can’t SPECIFY the year” (Why have you specified the year many times in the past ?)

      MH ….”Some of your colleagues …..eg Ed Hawkins”
      PW “NO I believe it’s the opposite of what he said cos serving the public means telling the public what the data says , not serving out the results of computer models they say 2050 ..they are miles out ”
      OK I am missing loads of words we need someone to do a proper transcript

      PW went on to say it’s already too late we need Geo-engineering to take Carbon Dioxide out of the atmosphere. Ends at 8:51 so he got almost 5 mins himself.

      Of course a bit strange how they forgot to mention the ever growing ice of the Antarctic !

         7 likes

  23. wronged says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-37172500
    Morris Dancers of Shrewsbury with blackened faces

    Liz Weaver: “I don’t think some of you are quite understanding the offensiveness of the blacked-up face. This singing and minstrel costume is depicting Uncle Tom. A black man who used to perform for white people. The implication that Uncle Tom was complicit in his own slavery is where the offence comes in.”

    Please tell me somebody, do the BBC go out of their way to find thick, thick people like Liz Weaver. I thought the BBC was meant to educate people.

    There is no mention in this report of the real reason why Morris dancers blackened their faces.

    Let me inform the people, because the BBC are unable to do so.
    For many centuries the Morris men blackened their faces for fear of being recognised. They danced for money, usually if they had fallen on hard times. They did not want family members or friends to recognise them.
    It has no historical racial connotation whatsoever.

    Yes, the explanation was that simple but the BBC want to make it racial and would rather quote an idiot member of the public than the truth. Maybe the BBC are continually anti British because does not want to promote British culture. Actually there is no ‘maybe’ about the BBC is definitely anti British.
    This is a good example of the BBC incorrect reporting a false explanation to denigrate British culture and promote racial tension where there is none.

    Morris Dancing encapsulates everything the BBC hates. It prefers the violent non British Afro Carribean Notting Hill Carnival culture.

    Something needs to be done about our ‘informative’ inept BBC
    It is completely useless. It really is.

       50 likes

    • G says:

      “…the BBC is definitely anti-British” – What can you expect Wronged? With all the foreigners the BBC employ, and in particular the number of Muslims who as an essential requirement of their religion, are anti-white Kuffar anyway. This show of inclination toward anti British(ness), the BBC hope, will find favour with their increasing number of Muslim viewers/listeners. It will become normalised once the critical mass is reached.

         24 likes

  24. wronged says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-37211350
    Today.

    Black girl whitens up. So what!!

    ….And here we go again. Is this really important world news for the BBC website?

    BBC again trying to create racial tension.

    GROW UP BBC. FOR GOD’S SAKE GROW UP!

       21 likes

    • AsISeeIt says:

      From the BBC report:

      ‘The incident sparked furious discussion on social media’

      Hence they shove this non-story into our news. I’ve said this before but will say it again – if I wanted to know what was trending on Twitter I would go to Twitter and not BBC news!

         20 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      No byline.

      Likely Jon Donnison on his bimonthly stirring things up post from down under

         6 likes

  25. Mike Hunt says:

    Not on the BBC: Sky’s Foreign Affairs Editor Sam Kiley said the US statement showed “considerable unease – I would say considerable anger – at the focus of the Turkish operations, which have been entirely against the Americans’ close allies in the Kurdish-led militia”.

    A story completely ignored by the BBC, who give a free pass to their Islamist friends the Turks, who are attacking the moderate Kurds while claiming to be attacking ISIS.

    http://news.sky.com/story/ds-10556882

       11 likes

  26. Mike Hunt says:

    Multiple Choice

    Compare and contrast the following three articles:

    Briton dies after hostel knife attack
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37216792

    Hero Brit Stabbed In Oz Dies From His Injuries
    http://news.sky.com/story/british-backpacker-stabbed-in-australia-dies-from-his-injuries-10557726

    Proud family pay tribute to hero Briton who died after being stabbed in the face 15 times trying to save backpacker from ‘crazed French knifeman’ in Australia
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3764493/Backpacker-Tom-Jackson-dies-hospital-Home-Hill-hostel-knife-attack.html

    – Which of the above is the only one to state: “Police allege Mr Ayad screamed ‘Allahu Akbar’ – Arabic for ‘God is great’ – during the attack.”?

    A. Only the DM. The BBC and Sky appear to have forgotten, or deem it unimportant. Strange, I seem to remember “Britain First” being mentioned in every BBC and Sky article about Tommy Mair.

    – Which of the the three websites describes the alleged attacker Smail Ayad as “a French-Algerian Muslim”?

    A. Trick question, actually it’s none of the above, who all describe him as a “French man”. If you want to find the description quoted, you have to go to http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/mia-ayliffechungs-alleged-killer-smail-ayad-remanded-in-custody-on-murder-charge/news-story/0e955317d4a8b0bae60de898bdc74cf2

       23 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC has of course had to mention this on social media. It has also retreated into third person and/or inanimate and/or watertight oversight territory to get away with no mentioning… shssh… you know who.

      Getting slaughtered (figuratively).

         8 likes

  27. Thoughtful says:

    According to a report on the Today program this morning there is a second ship of fools monitoring sea ice in the Arctic, and yes you guessed it, finding there is much more than these idiots thought there was.

    It was followed by a professor who was plainly mentally ill as he was presented with all of his past doom & gloom predictions which had failed to materialise. They did treat him gently but it is difficult when someone whose entire set of previous predictions had not come to pass, tells the interviewer that there will be no Arctic ice by a certain date (for the umpteenth time) and that all the computer models which contradict him are wrong !
    He finished up wittering on about CO2 being a problem and that he needed more money for research – which will no doubt be forthcoming !

    A sad shame that anyone rational with a counter argument would not receive any money at all and would not be invited onto the BBC to put their points either.

       22 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Shame if they need rescuing as the Royal Goldilocks Navy doesn’t like it too hot, too cold or, if just right seems parked in the Med.

         5 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Excellent summary mate
      The BBC plays the “No-False balance allowed” trick to make sure its pet subjects remain un-PROPERLY-challenged.

         3 likes

  28. SupportOurLefty says:

    Friends! I am so pleased to say hello to you all here! I daresay some of you may already know me in my Leftyliesrefuted guise on the Guido Fawkes, Going Postal, Spectator, etc. sites.

    As a member of the Progressive Left – and there are many of us, friends, e.g. me – I am deeply concerned about the Far-Right Bias of the Hard-Right neoliberal racist BBC. Just as concerned as I am sure you all are, in fact.

    Anyway, I thought you might be interested in my Blog, which is devoted to supporting Our Jeremy 100% – and that’s the absolute minimum, friends!

    Today’s edition contains a full account of the literally appalling train journey that Jeremy and I endured last week to the literally appalling Newcastle, along with our highly original solution to the problem, i.e. public ownership, so that the railways can once again attain the standard of service that they achieved in the 1970s, which Thatcher totally destroyed. I hope you’ll enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it:

    https://supportourjeremy.wordpress.com/2016/08/30/lets-take-our-literally-disastrous-so-called-rail-system-back-in-to-public-ownership-friends/

       14 likes

    • All Lives Matter says:

      Hoho, I see what you did there, well done.

         9 likes

    • Mr.Golightly says:

      Excellent. And there was me thinking political satire (as opposed to lefty name-calling) had been killed off by the BBC years ago.

      Any chance J.C.’s got plans for the British car industry? Bring back British Leyland, I say.

         14 likes

  29. Mackers says:

    What is it called when democratic western societies media with the aid of a muzzled police force cover up muslim murderers actions?

       10 likes

  30. All Lives Matter says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37220799

    Conspicuously high number of comments saying that this story is evidence that we should stay in the EU (it’s nothing of the sort) are making their way to or near the top of the HYS, time to redress the balance somewhat methinks.

       11 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      It’s quite the reverse, and symptomatic of arbitrary retrospective rule making by our elite when they don’t like someone. Most of those commenting are too stupid to realise where that leads. Very amusing when it happens to Apple or Tommy Robinson, but they might find it less amusing when it happens to them and no-one is held to account.

         11 likes

  31. Aerfen says:

    Gawd BBC is running a prime slot program all about baking muslim Nadya!(Chronicles of Nadya)

    They really are trying to turn her into an A list celebrity!

    Does any other winner of the show get this level of attention? Is she even that good? The show was so clearly rigged in her favour.

       19 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      This year’s winner has already been earmarked ! (clue: not a woman and not white)

         6 likes

      • Aerfen says:

        The Sikh or the black man?
        I would have thought they wouldn’t care just so long as the winner isnt an ethnic Brit.

        I feel sorry for the gullible Brits putting themselves through it when the most they can hop for is the final.

           6 likes

  32. Doublethinker says:

    Apple forced to pay 13 billion euros in corporation tax by the EU even though Ireland ,where they are headquartered , doesn’t agree and Apple haven’t broken anyIrish tax laws.If Apple thought that Ireland was a sovereign state ,well now they know differently.It sums up a nutshell why many voted Leave.Coupled with Merkel’s demands that other EU country’s help her out and take some of her Muslim imports, it shows exactly why leaving the EU was the only sensible choice if you believe in Sovereignty, Democracy and Identity. Needless to say on the BBC there is no mention of the Apple ruling and Brexit . I hope all those large US companies who headquartered in Ireland to take advantage of the low corporation tax rates realise they need to move all their business to the UK a sap.That will be one in the eye for the Remoaners.

       19 likes

    • scribblingscribe says:

      Dear Apple, I both adore and detest your overpriced objects of love. Please relocate your business to the UK, which will soon be outside the EU, (erm no promises on that one btw.)

         8 likes

    • 60022Mallard says:

      Do not forget the abbreviation ETIN.

      European Tax Identification Number.

      It will presumably eventually provide the means to tax the wealthy in any country to fund the EU in due course, removing at a stroke the problems of nations being net funders that emerged in the referendum. It will appeal hugely to all socialists.

         7 likes

  33. EnglandExpects says:

    The EU is taking on Ireland because it wants to maintain high corporate taxes in Europe. It calls them ‘fair’ of course. But it’s essentially to support those countries with left wing regimes, big government shares of GDP and high corporate taxes . Ireland is now to become a net contributor apparently so they should seriously consider getting out of the EU.
    Incidentally it’s proved brexit supporters right. The EU now wants to dictate countries tax regimes across tbe board. If you add to that the further discussion of a European army by France Germany and Italy then the Brexit arguments about EU overweening ambition are proving correct . Stuff the
    BBC! It’s reporters keep talking in derogatory terms about a race to tbe bottom in tax rates . Only a socialist would have that view.

       20 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Was Apple a pro or anti Brexit company? Or simply kept quiet?

         3 likes

      • Spider says:

        They were the same as us. Upset politicians. General public somewhat sceptical of political goal’s.

           2 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Companies don’t pay taxes. It’s their customers and employees who pay the taxes. The companies merely collect the tax.

         9 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Well, if you look at one end effect, that is true although as as been pointed out in the EU-Apple thing, Roland, look at another and society picks up the bill – unemployment – which is not quite the same thing as a tax but in reality is similar but far worse in effect.

        On the other hand, you are not so correct at all and in the UK companies – just like individuals – pay a raft of taxes BEFORE they have earned any money. Haven’t got time to list them all now but if a Company year end is 31 March (it is for a great number of businesses) you are technically operating at a loss for quite some time thanks to local and national taxes due around 31 March for the following year.

        HM Treasury has become increasingly greedy over the centuries switching taxation from revenue (ie. on earnings) to extortion (ie. in advance.) and it was a factor in the 2007-2009 crash and recession. It is one of the reasons we need to get out of the EU to reform our tax system. It is something the EU needs to do as well but the chance of reform in the EU happening anytime soon is remote. Witness? Call David Cameron.

        The EU may have scored a colossal own goal going after Ireland but I guess it was easier than tackling Luxembourg with J-C Juncker looking on.

        😉

           5 likes

  34. Guest Who says:

    As we limber up for the next round…

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_number_of_people_bbc_have_in?

    Meanwhile,

    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2016/08/french-leave.html?

    ‘A nice break from the rigours of W12 is not far away for BBC Worldwide Director Tim Davie and ten, yes ten, of his colleagues. They are heading to La Rochelle on September 14 for the French Festival of TV Fiction’.

    Ten? That’s ouch, yes ouch. Likely the number of viewers the shows they commission will garner.

    Luckily the iPlayer being removed from the catchup tomorrow means that my thirst for French TV fiction in future will be satisfied by other means.

    Ouch.

       10 likes

  35. Mike Hunt says:

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    What job is the red nail polished hand doing on the side of the bus?

    (Courtesy of Guido.)

       16 likes

  36. Mike Hunt says:

    Some interesting comments on Owen Smith’s twitter feed, eg

    “don’t get me wrong – I voted REMAIN,but democracy has to be respected o’wise what’s the point?” – Dys

    “Agree completely…The issue of which way we all voted is old news now. We all need to make it work” – Prof Terry Glotfelty

    “Thanks for confirming that #SavingLabour stands for anti-democracy. Remain voter btw.” – Haravikk

       10 likes

  37. TheBrutalTruth says:

    Just seen this really sad story on the beeb

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37216792

    ‘Australia hostel knife attack: Thomas Jackson dies’

    A “selfless” backpacker who was injured trying to save another traveller as she was stabbed to death in Australia has died, police in Queensland have said.

    Read the rest of the article and all I can say is that those gap year students have turned into monsters, I’m appalled. Those middle class brits now stabbing each other.

    Just gonna see what breitbart has to say…

       15 likes

  38. Tabs says:

    OMG has the BBC slipped up?!?

    Motorist launches foul-mouthed verbal assault on Jeremy Vine
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37223235

    The video and photos show a black woman in a negative light. How did this article slip past the BBC editors and managers?

       17 likes

    • thirdoption says:

      “Aggressive, foul-mouthed, racist black woman verbally assaults Jeremy Vine.”

      She’s not all bad then.

         17 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Jeremy Vine was undoubtedly behaving in a provocative and racist manner. Why should he assume that a black person driving a car should slow down – in London of all places – for white trash on a bike? How was she to know that Vine is a very important protector of multicultural values and the rights of people of colour? He should have removed his bike, apologized, and reported himself to the police. Now he will have to be sacked from the BBC. Following lengthy psychiatric examinations he may have to stand trial

         21 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Saw his tweet about this not so long ago. He was pleased he had it all on video (fore and aft… what is he? Some kind of eco Google Map cyclist?).

      Interesting precedent kicking in (SWIDT) again on precedent.

      At the end of the day a road/dogwalking/any of a thousand other rage incident that most folk get subjected to on a regular basis, either shrug off, live with or go to the police to be told to get real.

      But here we have a BBC employee who can bring a world of hurt down on a person (easily identified – testimony on detail so far his alone – the ‘you lot’ sounds familiar. Is Jezz now of an age to add ‘old’ to white and male?) using their personal national whinge system, with captions.

      ‘A police spokesperson could not confirm whether it was being investigated’

      It will be interesting what plod does get around to doing.

      Maybe she was on her way back from enjoying the carnival and he had inappropriate attire on. Who can say?

         14 likes

    • scribblingscribe says:

      LOL. Brilliant.

      Self righteous, preening, BBC road warrior on bike lectures thick mouthy black woman in car – and then gets it in the neck.

      Wonderful, weepy pleading, ‘please don’t hit me again’ along with sanctimonious lecturing. No doubt, in the face of her physical assaults he wagged his finger at her.

      Not sure who to support. Maybe they deserve each other.

         20 likes

  39. Cassandra says:

    “‘Get the f*** out the road… I’m going to knock you out”: BBC star Jeremy Vine posts shocking footage of WOMAN road rage driver threatening him and making sign of a ‘gun’ in the street.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3765180/Get-f-road-picture-car-m-going-knock-BBC-star-Jeremy-Vine-posts-shocking-footage-woman-road-rage-driver-threatening-making-sign-gun-street.html

    The Radio 2 host filmed the woman unleashing abuse and apparently making a gun sign after he cycled in front of her car on a narrow street in London’s Kensington.
    Father-of-two Mr Vine, 52, posted the footage on his Facebook page today, warning that he felt the woman involved ‘will at some point hurt someone very badly’.

    37B69DEC00000578-3765180-Road_rage_Radio_2_host_Jeremy_Vine_filmed_the_woman_pictured_unl-a-46_1472562412926.jpg

    37B69F5400000578-3765180-Keen_cyclist_Mr_Vine_confirmed_he_had_reported_Friday_s_incident-m-69_1472563664324.jpg

    “The BBC star posted the clip on his Facebook page, and wrote: ‘This happened on Friday.
    ‘I hate to overload our hard-working London police with footage from my commute, but I feel the person you see on the tape will at some point hurt someone very badly – either with her car or in a direct personal assault. See what you think.’”

    I can’t remember The amount of times I have had to endure this Cultural Marxist forcing the BBC “all ethnics are lovely” bilge down the listeners throats. He really has been shocking the sides he has championed from the poor mites in Calais trying to get into the UK to the police treatment of black people.

    I’m going to have a cold beer in the sunshine now Jeremy savour the fact that for the brief time you nipped out your BBC bubble, you had to go through what most of us go through day to day! Ha ha ha ha (sorry I’m getting into practice).

       31 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      On precedent, should there be a person I feel is a danger to the public, could I film them and add a bit of gesture of colour testimony, and send it to the BBC to broadcast to the world without checking too much?

      Asking for a stitch-up editor of integrity now working for the BIJ & Newsnight again.

      Lucky the kids in Jimmy’s day didn’t have camera phones, as that footage would defo be an ‘exempted for TPOJAAL’ job once in the BBC’s sticky hands.

         8 likes

    • Beltane says:

      Bicycle-clips far too passe for our Jem no doubt, but when one day he gets his trendy jeans caught in the chain wheel and veers sharply into passing traffic, he too could hurt someone very badly.

         9 likes

    • Foscari says:

      The lady driver who “abused” Jeremy Vine looks like a perfect
      candidate to join the BBC’S Londistan programme. Maybe another
      feature eulogizing Mark Duggan could be her first project. I
      am still surprised that Riz Lateef and Asad Ahmad don’t have a statue
      of Saint Duggan in their Londistan studio.

         7 likes

  40. TheBrutalTruth says:

    Expect a full blown apology from Jeremy Vine in due course for not respecting that it was carnival the next day and she was just getting in the mood a little prematurely

       9 likes

  41. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3765180/Get-f-road-picture-car-m-going-knock-BBC-star-Jeremy-Vine-posts-shocking-footage-woman-road-rage-driver-threatening-making-sign-gun-street.html

    Jeremy Vine gets a welcome touch of the diversty he’s championed for so long, yet the soft brained Leftie can’t add the figures up and still appears to believe that this is how normal white British people behave !

       14 likes

    • Dave S says:

      I ride nearly every day and I am sorry to tell you that white people are just as likely to find cyclists in the way and behave aggressively so I am careful not to impede them.
      Vine is a sanctimonious idiot who thinks being on a bike gives him added virtue.
      I have been carved up more times than I can recall even so. Drivers all white!

         9 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        And how many white women came out – twice, threatened to knock you out, and then made a sign of shooting you ?

           2 likes

        • Dave S says:

          Well I had one well spoken 4 wheel drive lady deliberately drive over my front wheel and smash it. Then abuse me in no uncertain fashion and threaten to have me beaten up by her menfolk. . So what that’s life.Motorists just do not really like cyclists and the feeling is mutual.
          Colour has nothing to do with it. Grow up.

             4 likes

    • peterthegreat says:

      I am always unutterably saddened when a noble beeboid like our Jeremy is aggressed by a member of an oppressed minority – in this case a member of 2 oppressed minorities – as, I’m sure, are all readers of this blog. I doubt I shall sleep a wink tonight.

         9 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Don’t know if it is true, but if it is, you have to love the Internet.

      https://twitter.com/ria_willer/status/770684089120743424

         8 likes

  42. Oaknash says:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/705309/Policewoman-stabbed-at-police-station-in-Toulouse

    Someone asking directions to Als snack bar possibly?

       14 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      White Lives Matter if the victim is a BBC luvvie employee.

         14 likes

    • Mike Hunt says:

      “Someone asking directions to Als snack bar possibly?”

      Most definitely… sounds like an attempted beheading
      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/08/30/french-police-stabbed-algerian-toulouse/

      “A French police officer has been stabbed by an Algerian man who French media say has a history of violence including attempting to firebomb a synagogue.”

      So, despite attempting to firebomb a synagogue in 2014 he was free to roam the streets… crazy.

      And apparently, he “suffers from severe mental illness”. No kidding! I think I can guess which one…

         13 likes

  43. Pounce says:

    The bBC has found a worthy cause:
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    Here is what the bBC isn’t telling you:

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    There’s more here:

       5 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      What a surprise the RoPers can cause problems even when they’re still kids. Another couple of years and she’ll be covering her hair as meekly as a kitten (Or hubby/Dad/Uncle will beat the living crap out of her!)

         5 likes

  44. Guest Who says:

    OT, but we and ‘er indoors are on the Eurostar mailing list and burst out laughing when this came in:

    Fall in love with Europe this autumn from £29 one way

       14 likes

  45. darrylf says:

    David, any chance of a piece on the ridiculous number of Republic of Ireland headlines and pieces appearing on so-called BBC Northern Ireland? I have to pinch myself that it isn’t RTE these days.

       13 likes

  46. TheBrutalTruth says:

    What’s this…. Some good ‘breaking news’ from the Beeb?

    IS spokesman al-Adnani ‘killed in Aleppo’

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37224570

    Happy days – few more of these please beeb – that’s my call for a glass of red!

       7 likes

  47. Alex says:

    Bloody hell…. you think the BBC is bad? You should go over to the Independent website. It’s utterly pathetic and puerile lol. Worst ‘news’ outlet ever. A cross between the BBC/Guardian/Channel Snore and Blue Peter. Get over on their comments pages folks and tell ’em how you feel, lol. I spent a large amount of my lunch break today winding up leftie sandal wearing, bearded wooly jumper wearing turnip crunchers. Great fun. Also, anyone else noticed how the BBC have totally covered up the daily thuggish and violent attacks by that foul assemblage of useless Calais-squatting stinkers on our lorry drivers? The anti-British BBC are painting them as holy angels incapable of doing no wrong. I wonder what would happen to the BBC-type’s sanctimonious hand-holding kumbaya-singing if they were to find an immigrant squatting in their trendy Islington garden sheds? I’ll tell you this for nothing, their right-on luvvie duvvy crap would cease immediately, especially if they found an immigrant taking a big fat dump in their garden bush!

       19 likes

    • Lobster says:

      Thanks very much, but I’ve no desire whatsoever to inspect Diane Abbott’s bush.

         12 likes

  48. ray_f says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37216874
    The BBC have definitely missed this on one of their ‘refugee’ videos.

    A man is very clearly whipping somebody! The 2 lifeboat men shout at him to stop, but the BBC has a voice over.
    Here are the BBC video and the same one from yahoo. You can clearly see and hear the rescuers shouting and waving at him to stop.
    Watch to the right of the rescuers head
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37216874

    Here is the yahoo video with the sound.
    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/european-ships-rescue-thousands-migrants-off-libyan-coast-144347904.html

    This is shocking!

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  49. Alex says:

    Of course, one has to be grateful to the BBC for tackling the most pressing issues of our era:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nnnlr

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    • Lobster says:

      I’m speechless. I really am.

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      • TheBrutalTruth says:

        Must be about FGM unless they’re coming at it from a physcological angle in which case it will be about marriage counselling and so that none of us need waste our time I’ll sum it up:

        1. The man is always right
        2. If he beats you its your fault you’re not being a good enough wife
        3. Just remember you’re one of many, you’re not special darling

        PS lobby don’t be bitter, not as if you paid for it ey!

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