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  1. NISA says:
    September 14, 2016 at 10:48 am

    Want someone to pour cold water on positive data? This fellow appears to be becoming the BBC’s favourite Jeremiah.

    But Samuel Tombs, chief UK economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, warned: “When you scratch beneath the surface, today’s labour market figures are not as robust as they first appear.”
    The rise in people in work “remains supported by surging self-employment”, Mr Tombs said.
    “The strong growth also reflected a shift towards part-time working; total weekly hours rose by just 0.3% between April and July,” he added.

    I have seen this world renowned economist quoted bfore by the BBC. “Tombs” how that word must appeal.

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    • taffman says:
      September 14, 2016 at 11:20 am

      Good News breaking …….’No big slowdown in markets so far after Brexit vote’ – Banker’s comments floating about the ‘ether’ at the moment – nowt on Al Beeb about it yet ?

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  2. KatieH says:
    September 14, 2016 at 10:50 am

    On the bbc brekkie show this morning there was a piece about russian hackers getting medical info on athletes including serena williams. Lots of serious faces saying this was private info etc. reminded me of the climategate emails in 2009. I think we are seeing the tip of a very big iceberg here re doping in sports. We saw how the beeb reacted over mo farah and the doping allegations last year. It will only take one to squeal and when they do it will be like the end of goodfellas, bodybags everywhere, clapton playing out. the beebs shrine that is london 2012(sponsored by the labour party) could come down in flames.

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  3. StewGreen says:
    September 14, 2016 at 11:50 am

    Now on R4 repeat of Eastern Europeans in Brexitland
    – Last week was Romanians* this week it’s all Polish (* actually that’s what the reporter says, but last week was also mainly about Polish..hence a prior comment here, that despite the title the prog is not about East Europeans, but rather almost only Polish)

    eg1 “nasty comments on Facebook”
    eg2 some yob setting fire to a Polish girls hair on the bus is stated to be hate crime by Beeboids

    Seemingly oblivious that all of us at some time or other have suffered abuse from these yobs/nutcases who do stupid things which easily get out of hand…but we on’t take it as a “hate crime”. Once they get a job, they grow up and stop being so immature, they’ll be better ..they need more help, but actually the educationalists and social workers probably have their hands full with immigrants.

    Polish Immigrant speaking says 2005 it was OK, but 2 to 3 years ago ..they had to start helping people relocate.
    oh “some people sent me joke emails saying : ~are you still here ? ~ That’s not very nice”

    The (Black accented) BBC reporter is heavily fishing “so did it change after Brexit”
    Oh there was some graffiti ~Vote Out for England, get the C***ts out~
    Again that is hardly terrofying; you could probbly walk around the corner and graffiti will say ~get the Tory C***ts out~ ..At which the BBC wouln’t bat an eyelid.

    After seemingly found scant evidence the BBC reporter says “All the Polish people have faced discrimination which has been exacerbated by Brexit”

    The Race NGO guy is now making the point that
    #1 White immigrants don’t come to them .. (Yes cos the NGOs are quick to look at skin colour)
    #2 That those white immigrants are more racist. (Yes if you know Russian culture you know that ‘black ‘ is a derogatory word to refer to all people ho are not pure white Moscow)

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  4. G says:
    September 14, 2016 at 11:59 am

    Breaking News. It will sure be interesting to see/hear how the BBC deal with this.
    http://newobserveronline.com/every-major-uk-religion-wants-invaders/

    Take a look in the Post to the actual document. Whether we like it or not, this approach to May is being made under the auspices of you and me.

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  5. Englands Dreaming says:
    September 14, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    See the Beeb headlines are Junkers proposal for EU army HQ. You remember, that EU army that Cameron and the Remainers categorically said would never happen! The EU socialist super state still being formed as the announcement of a “Foreign Secretary” demonstrates. Lessons learnt, not on your life!
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37359196

    Also in the Beeb headlines
    Saudi teenager plans hijab emoji
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37358719
    Im almost at the point where I cannot bring myself to read anymore Beeb “news”

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    • gaxvil says:
      September 14, 2016 at 1:45 pm

      Hmmm …. got the bit about the EU army – deafening silence.
      The failing EU does need further integration to save the Euro and help Italy out of the pit but that would not be seen as generally popular. As my mate used to say, “You can gold plate a turd – it’s still a turd”.

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      • G says:
        September 14, 2016 at 2:35 pm

        Gaxvil, EU army urgently to at for the EU States in restraining their populations from revolting against the invasion?

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    • G says:
      September 14, 2016 at 2:36 pm

      ED, its in the Lisbon Treaty which, hang on! I believe the UK signed…………..

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  6. KafirHarbi says:
    September 14, 2016 at 12:58 pm

    I tried to have a good look at this ‘State of Nature 2016’ report into biodiversity much trumpeted by the BBBC today. The main authors seem to be the RSPB who deliver the report as a totally dumbed down and patronising infographic on their website.

    You can see a readable version here:
    http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2988125/state_of_nature_2016_report_shows_continued_loss_of_britains_biodiversity.html

    Unless there is a properly scientific version somewhere that I can’t find, the ‘report’ is laughably content free.

    This is the headline:
    “The 2016 ‘State of Nature’ report, published today, offers many small victories to celebrate, writes SUSAN CLARK, but overall it’s not good news: 15% of our native species are under threat of extinction, while 53% are in decline. With intensive farming the main cause of the damage, and climate change a serious long term problem, turning the tide of wildlife attrition will be a long and challenging task.”

    So the culprits are farmers and climate change. No evidence is offered to support these assertions – whatsoever! And the assertions therefore stink. Having lived in the countryside all my life, and had many farming friends and associates, I would say that to me farming seems to have got less intensive in the period that their stats cover (1970-2016). And as for blaming climate change – not even going to start on that one. . .

    I can’t prove it any more than the RSPB prove their assertions, but I would think that the following has had far more impact on Britain’s biodiversity than changing farming practices and climate change over the last fifty years:

    • An additional 10m people with all the associated urbanisation, pollution, and destruction of farmland.
    • A trebling of the number of cars on the road from 10m to 30m
    • Interference in the predation chain by for instance protection of the badger and its impact on its favourite prey – hedgehogs.

    The whole report seems nothing more than more than a complete smokescreen to promote favoured causes by the lib-left blob. What a shame that no-one seems to be challenging it, the NFU so far has been a bit feeble – they need to call out this utterly unsubstantiated BS.

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    • Loobyloo says:
      September 14, 2016 at 2:24 pm

      Thanks KH, I did hear the newsbite about this, and though oh no, here we go. Intensive farming and global warming – boooo! Last week they mentioned the decline of the dormouse, and attributed it to lack of habitat and …..climate change tacked on the end for good measure. There was no discussion of why there might be a lack of habitats. It seems that we just can’t have a proper debate here, because it doesn’t fit their agenda. Because they are usually wrong!

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    • Beltane says:
      September 14, 2016 at 5:30 pm

      The 1988 Wildlife & Countryside Act, the RSPB and the RSPCA have done more to adversely affect the balance of nature over the past 30 years or so than any army of gamekeepers. Dr David Bellamy accepted this fact and was silly enough to say so – which effectively ended his BBC ‘wildlife’ career.
      The list is long and sad but say for example you artificially encourage a species, especially a predator like the sparrow-hawk – which, to be fair, did suffer losses from DDT ingestion back in the 1950s as a result of farming practice, since banned – artificially protect them at the expense of all subservient (food) species and severely penalise any attempts to control their numbers, subservient numbers will suffer significant losses. This, along with predation from domestic cats and magpies accounts for far greater losses of small birds than farming though it is, of course, much easier and more PC to blame ‘big agri-business’ – something which ‘Countryfile Personalities’ like Chris Packham and Tom Heap are only too happy to do. They won’t, at the same time, mention the positive and beneficial effects of conservation headlands, but they wouldn’t want to confuse the issue.
      When the protection extends to scavenger species like the common buzzard, so that their numbers increase out of all proportion beyond their normal territorial needs – huge areas in the case of all predators and scavengers – then food chain pressures mean that they must, in order to survive, evolve from scavenger to predator. This has happened, now, to the buzzard, the red kite will shortly follow suit, and neither of them care a tinkers fart about the size of their next meal, except that if it’s small they’ll need another one sooner.
      Such birds are beautiful, many would rightly say majestic, but like any royalty they are only acceptable, and effective, in small numbers.

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  7. Deborah says:
    September 14, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    We were pleased to find a hedgehog in the garden last week not having seen one for some years , hadn’t realised the Badgers were to blame. The countryside act under Blair that has done enormous upset to the balance of wildlife in the UK . we used to be very protective towards the Badgers living her however their numbers have risen hugely, hence why no hedgehogs I know now from Kafirharbi. Perhaps Countryfile could have done an item about it, but perhaps not as it is against their agenda. Again, we used to have lots of little birds in the garden but since Blair’s interference we now are plagued with magpies that game keepers had previously kept under control. Another item for Countryfile? No because the loss of small birds is due to wicked greedy farmers spraying their crops and climate change, you must never forget that climate change is to blame for every bad thing that happens in this world.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:
      September 14, 2016 at 1:48 pm

      Errr..the likes of Chris Packham, or Brian May would prefer not to discuss with you the predation of hedgehogs by badgers, and the majority of the country are ignorant of the facts.
      The hedgehog is defenceless to them because the badger simply uses two front paws to unfurl the thing and eats straight into his soft underbelly.

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      • Fol-de-rol says:
        September 14, 2016 at 2:28 pm

        There was a story a few years back of hedgehogs being relocated from a Scottish island to Devon at great expense and in a blaze of publicity – to be gratefully devoured by the local badgers.

        Foxes (when not evading wicked non-Labour voting countryside dwellers) roll them into a puddle, where they unfurl to swim. End game.

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  8. Dover Sentry says:
    September 14, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    BBC Online News:

    “”Documents ‘shed light’ on Scotswoman killed at Auschwitz””

    “”Rev Ian Alexander, secretary of the World Mission Council of the Church of Scotland, said it was “vitally important” to remember Ms Haining as she embodied so much of the “internationalist’s spirit””

    “We’ve seen over the last 12 months particularly alarming numbers of migrants and refugees crossing into Hungary and the response of the church locally, especially St Columba’s Church of Scotland in Budapest, to offer accommodation, educational support and friendship to some of the refugees””

    “”It really connects with some of the work that Jane Haining did all those years ago””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-37350918

    So….the Church of Scotland have hijacked this news to meet their propaganda needs. The BBC have also hijacked this news to meet their propaganda needs. (And why is she now Ms?).

    Free migration is the message. Or we all will be accused of supporting Auschwitz.

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  9. Guest Who says:
    September 14, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    BBC News on Facebook:

    BBC Radio 4

    Is there a neurological reason why some people think the moon landing was faked? ? ? ? ?

    Why Do Our Brains Love Conspiracy Theories?
    BBC.CO.UK

    Nice complement to their ‘Do bat guano thick Labour Ministers really need to know their jobs?’ effort recently.

    It’s like their science ‘reporting’ has some kind of re-educationl agenda.

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    • G.W.F. says:
      September 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm

      Guest Who
      Unfortunately the BBC experts understand neither science nor logic. Our brains cannot love conspiracy theories, cannot love anything. It is people, individuals, that may or may not love things. The fallacy is widespread; it is known as the mereological fallacy, that of attributing activities performed by the whole organism to activities associated with part of an organism.

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    • StewGreen says:
      September 14, 2016 at 3:21 pm

      Direct links : That R4 Facebook post
      The story on R4 website
      “To celebrate the major new nine-part conspiracy drama, Tracks, a story about life, death and the human brain, we examine some neurological reasons behind our love of a good conspiracy theory…”
      Yes that piece is just to promote their drama about something which turns out to be a grand conspiracy.

      Talking of what fuels conspiracy theories : We are waiting for R4 to start crowing that if that yacht scrapes thru the Artic NE & NW passages..They won’t mention that the skipper has done the same journey twice before ! from about 18 years ago ..PH explained the yacht website does mention that

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  10. G.W.F. says:
    September 14, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    More European enrichment for the BBC to investigate.
    Migrants film themselves beating up a cyclist. These guys know they are conqerors

    Local Socialist Party leader Patrick Zoomermeijer said the youngsters were ‘unpolished diamonds’.

    I love that expression – unpolished diamonds as we say in the business

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3787307/Who-f-k-racists-Violent-Turkish-migrants-FILM-beating-cyclist-dancing-police-cars-intimidating-officers.html?ito=social-facebook
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3787307/Who-f-k-racists-Violent-Turkish-migrants-FILM-beating-cyclist-dancing-police-cars-intimidating-officers.html#ixzz4KEkr28dN
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  11. KatieH says:
    September 14, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Australian Senator Calls For Ban On Muslim Immigration, Mosques And Burkas

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/14/watch-australian-senator-calls-ban-muslim-immigration-mosques-burkas/

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  12. G.W.F. says:
    September 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    Rivers of blood? Naw, heavy rain and faulty drainage. Animals are killed for allah akibar and used to feed the poor. Don’t be a racist and believe it is inhumane.

    Coming to Europe soon.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37358356

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  13. scribblingscribe says:
    September 14, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    Following the Foreign Affairs Committee’s trashing of Cameron’s decision to help the people of Libya the BBC are having a delightful time. Apparently Cameron was found guilty of not having hind sight and being Prime Minister at a time of Islamic lunatics butchering people. What a berk. Nowhere near as clever as people on the Committee.

    BBC Wales just had the Muslim MP Yasmin Qureshi, a member of the committee, on to justify trashing the British people’s response to the appalling bloodshed in Libya.

    Apparently, she voted against helping the people of Libya at the time. Well good for her. Oh and she voted against Syrian airstrikes against ISIS to help the fight against Islamists. And she spent time with the Hamas cheerleader and Jew hater Raed Salah – a nasty piece of work who the UK government banned from entering the country, (overturned by the immigration courts of course). She enjoyed his riveting company so much, she then joined him on a platform to run down the Israelis.

    She also voted against gay marriage, (wonder what the BBC think of that), and believes Gaza is worse than the Holocaust. During the parliamentary discussion on that nonsense she mindlessly shouted down a fellow MP James Clappison MP, who tried to say: “I do not believe, and will not be persuaded, that the state of Israel has any interest in imposing the present conditions on the people of Gaza for the sake of it.” Doesn’t she know that, outside Muslim countries, people have freedom of speech?

    So who better to sit on the committee and judge Cameron along with the British people and then to turn up on the BBC and underline her views on how dreadful we all are?

    Wonder why the BBC didnt interview Ann Clwyd, another committee member?

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  14. pertelote says:
    September 15, 2016 at 9:38 am

    BIBC (I didn’t hear the programme) at it again?..”It may have been just lazy journalism, but a BBC Radio 4 news update stated how Turkey was now determined to beat both Daesh (Isis/Isil) and YPG “terrorists”. No qualification or caveat was added to that statement, in spite of the fact that the Kurdish-led YPG has been at the forefront of the fight against Daesh. It was just left like that.”

    http://www.thecanary.co/2016/09/14/mid-east-war-goes-orwellian-anti-isis-fighters-now-terrorists-opinion/

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