A review into Muslim integration, lack of, was under discussion….you might praise the BBC for broaching the subject. Or not. Who did they get on to tell us why the review was so wrong? MPACUK. MPACUK that many in the know say is an anti-semitic, pro-Jihad Islamist group that has very little support, if any, amongst Muslims. The BBC seems to have a love of the wrong uns….the MCB for example…which a recent Policy Exchange report labels as very, very unrepresentative of Muslims in Britain. Or MEND. Or Cage. Or any other foam-flecked Islamist who claims to speak for Muslims.
Did enjoy Nicky Campbell correcting a caller who told us that his Muslim friends didn’t want to mix with white people…Campbell quickly interrupted to say that this is not about race…this is about religion. [hmmm…isn’t Islam a ‘race’ now?] Campbell then one minute later interrupted the same guy as he spoke about Islam and how it effected how Muslims saw non-Muslims, Campbell told him not to be racist……so one minute the guy is racist for telling us what his friends said, Campbell saying it is about religion, then, paradoxically, he is also racist for relating it to what the religion says. Campbell has many Muslim friends…so he knows a lot…taught everything he knows by the great Islamic scholar Mo Ansar.
Anyone that lives in a high Muslim area knows only too well how they generally seperate themselves from the rest of us ,especially the low educated Pakistani villagers who marry their cousins which are the majority in my area.
I have posted many times how I tried in vain to get my children’s Muslim school friends to join in with activities and come to our house for parties celebrations ,even just play but they were never ever allowed. We had every other race and religion ,because they were our children’s friends. Many still are.
One they become the majority pubs disappear ,halal shops become dominant,and the mosque becomes the only focus of community activity mainly on a Friday .Everywhere else is deserted. Children are shepherded to the Madrassas where presumably they learn about we infidels and our filthy habits.
I don’t know how you combat that level of indoctrination and its hardly surprising that people of other religions and ethnicities are moving out.
The BBC as ever appeasing Islam and nothing surprising about their view of what’s wrong .i cannot imagine any of their managers and presenters living what I live.But at least I can speak from experience .
Deborah “The BBC as ever appeasing Islam” I think this goes for politicians too.
Apparently much effort was put into trying to get Casey to soften her report. As far as the media and the politicians are concerned this report opens a can of worms as it suggests that many immigrants (maybe even adherents of the “religion of peace”) do not want to integrate into our society and this has been aided and abetted by Government institutions – somewhat counter to the disingenuous bilge the UK media have been pushing over the last few years that is all the fault of the indigenous population for not trying hard enough!
Are there no limits to the self abasement these guilt ridden media whores (such as Campbell) will not stoop to suck up to Islam? Frankly I think there are not. These patsies always willing to kiss the ring of the MCB in order to gain some multy culty browny points! Campbell and Jeremy Whine certainly would be up there with the winners for the ” BBC Batty boy of the year awards”
This report is certainly only a small step and I am sure the media will try and kill it as soon as possible as far as they are concerned it asks the wrong questions with the BBC being far more interested in Polish sheds going up in smoke rather than talking about mass sexual assaults by people of “asian” (whatever that means) heritage.
If like the BBC you always ask the wrong questions you will always get the wrong answers and therefore problems will just fester. In some ways thanks to this lack of honest debate I fear that we are approaching a time where violence between communities becomes more likely not less.
You have my sympathies living where you do. I lived and worked in London. And bought my kids up to be “colour blind” (which I do not regret).However I did not like the way things were going and fortunately was able to move away. They now see me as some sort of old reactionary – but I suppose I probably am.
The real issue has never been about “colour” it has always been about attitude (and mainly that of the incomers – you can embrace a new culture or reject it, but remember you are also rejecting me too if that is your choice, unfortunately, I was here first – so it would be nice if these newcomers showed just a little respect! ).
The sooner the MSM realise that race is not the issue, the better for all. However little will be done to challenge this. For the left it is far too easy to stick with the old prejudices than embrace a sea change of thought that actually deals with a problem, and besides there are too many politicians and media types who have built their careers on race hustling – Sorry is not a word I expect to hear.
Labour said in the nineties “It can only get better!” My question is – better for who?
Thanks Oaknash,
I agree completely .I tried because I’m basically a fair and welcoming person not the racist Islamaphobe we are portrayed as by the BBC and politicians .
I resent the constant watering down of any such report ,but to be honest ,im giving up.I too and my family are thinking very seriously of moving out of London, a place I was born and loved most of my life.
I don’t want to be old ,isolated and surrounded by hostile people and mosques.
After many years of living in London I now live in a village in the outer home counties. It would take a lot to get me to move back to London. When I visit, everyone looks so stressed and miserable. In my village people aren’t wealthy or ‘successful’ in worldly terms but they take the time to chat and say hello in the shops, street etc. The church plays an active but unobtrusive role in village life. Nearly everyone is ‘white British’ but the minority of migrants are integrated and part of the community; a leaven rather than a dilution. It’s basically the BBC’s worst nightmare!
Persecuted Middle East bishops banned from visiting UK
Why are suffering Syrian and Iraqi bishops banned from visiting the UK? They only wanted to attend the consecration of the country’s first Syriac Orthodox cathedral, dedicated to St Thomas. They might even have met the Prince of Wales for a cup of tea, but after that they’d have surely returned to serve their rapidly-diminishing flocks and lead them through their daily crucifixions, beheadings, enslavement, murder, rape… Surely the Sunday Express has got this story completely wrong. Bishops banned? Why on earth? Why would the Home Office not see fit to grant three brave Middle Eastern bishops a visa so they might attend the consecration of St Thomas’ Cathedral and visit some of their refugee brethren, and then perhaps pop along to Clarence House for a chat with the Prince of Wales? He cares about these things, doesn’t he? Good grief, he might even have invited them.
http://archbishopcranmer.com/persecuted-middle-east-bishops-banned-visiting-uk/
Unbelievable.
Meanwhile a hate preacher linked to the murder of Ahmadi Muslim Asad Shah in Glasgow has been cleared to enter the UK to spread his message in Scotland.
Pakistani cleric Syed Muzaffar Shah Qadri has been banned from preaching by the authorities in Karachi, Pakistan’s largest city thanks to his “firebrand” image and zealous message. Yet the British authorities have given him the go ahead to speak at Falkirk Central Mosque later this month.
Spare a though for Theresa May, addressing the Gulf Co operation council meeting today in Bahrain, as the BBC brightly put it……the first ever woman to do so.
A trade deal in return for visa free travel to the UK for citizens of GCC member states is being suggested……
That means Saudis, and Qataris….wahabbis, just what we need for “community cohesion”.
Especially Saudis who run a society built on segregated accomodation for guest workers and strict gender segregation in everyday life.
Treezer will appease
BBC Today interview an appalling Muslim woman apologist for sharia courts and women’s role in Islam. Women are free to speak in Sharia Courts she says, denying that most stay silent, the Islamic concept of marriage is to protect women, she claims. These are just two of many bizarre claims that she made, all treated fairly gently by N Robinson. I don’t know who this slick, well spoken woman was, but she was grotesquely distorting and trying to deny one of the biggest problems our ‘diverse” country faces.
Classic BBC ‘reporting’, and clearly beamed out across all means.
Person ‘says’ something, and BBC dutifully passes it on on a ‘tell it often enough’ basis.
Is the entire BBC staffed by those not already off to the slopes for Chistmas?
She was a Sharia court “judge”, she was rather coy about whether she was the only female sharia “judge” in the UK
I wanted to hear Robinson ask how sharia law is compatible with English Law, and how it was that the civil courts appeared to have no role in muslim divorce cases.
From listening to the conversation, it appears that Muslim marriages aren`t always accompanied by civil marriages….this seems odd to me as Church weddings also include the presence of a registrar to sign the civil register after the religious rite is completed.
Can any one shed any light? Robinson didn`t even try. But I understood “equality under the law” to be a core “British value”, and a key to “community cohesion”.
Anglican clergy in England and Wales can perform legal marriages by right; other denominations and religions can also do it but by civil licence. So it may be possible for a Muslim cleric to carry out a legally binding marriage in the UK but it is not an automatic right of their religious office.
I heard it too – I think she she did a marvelous rebuttal of the Casey report despite Nick Robinsons hard grilling – not!
I learnt lots of good stuff about sharia too.
Apparently sharia helps women (not sure why)
On the question of women sharia judges we heard there are “others” but no further detail.
Apparently sharia courts “helps to prevent white flight by helping us understand islam,
And the Islamic concept is to protect women!
Yeah definitely some great stuff this morning – However I dont think Casey will be losing too much sleep on it.
The great irony here is that Louise Casey is a full-on publc sector career professional and beloved member of the Guardianistas. The very people who gave us open door immigration in the first place.
Ten years too late, she can see the problems most on this website could spot in about 5 microseconds.
And yet, even she and her report are being denounced as racist by the extremists, and Al Beeb as ever give them plenty of air time.
funny innit casey’s report ends up effectively singling out one sector of society, I wonder why that is?
poles, latvians, jews, buddists, shikhs, blacks, french, afro caribbeans, chinese, thai, eski-fookin-mo’s any real problems? NO not really
Ive done the white flight as well, having once made the mistake of thinking people are people irrespective of race religion, colour or creed.
If anyone still thinks its worth living in an area where they have a fast expanding presence let me know and i will tell you what to expect and why I left, as if you dont know already.
The gist of the BBC article is that Muslims, especially female Muslims, are not being properly integrated into society and ultimately it is all our faults, rather than Islam. So expect more taxpayer funded government grants going to the Muslim community.
Meanwhile the BBC is running stories on its “loving my hijabi” propaganda series:
“The hijab is rising in popularity in the Muslim world. It makes a religious statement but has also become central to women’s fashion.”
100 Women 2016: Hipster and heavy metal hijabis
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38185816
100 Women 2016: Why wear a hijab?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38123659
Meet the first hijab-wearing Muslim to pose for Playboy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37545518
BBC,
I look forward to the first pink burka !
Campbell has many Muslim friends…
In that case he most likely will have attended a Muslim wedding and found himself sitting in a segregated audience.
Sarah Champion, Labour MP for Rotherham and shadow minister for women and equalities – no, me neither – writes in today’s Times that the problem is Tory cuts, removing funding from lessons to teach English to foreigners!
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/english-lesson-funding-cuts-stopped-women-integrating-0x9rk9z2d
being a recently arrived (real) refugee is the only possible excuse for being here without the ability to speak english.
For all the rest, if they cant be bothered to do it before they arrive they
1 should not be allowed in
2 should not expect me to pay to teach them
Trevor Phillips writes a few words of sense in today’s Telegraph.
Took him long enough to smell the coffee?
Better late than never I guess…
Meanwhile on the Midland Metro in Birmingham…
A story of two members of Birmingham’s Muslim community, using UK housing benefits to help fund the Paris and Brussels terrorist massacres. Except this BBC article is stripped off all references of Muslim and Islam (except for one “so-called Islamic State” reference). This important story has a small link on the front page of the BBC website with the neutral wordage: “Man Gave Cash to Brussels Attack Suspect”
BBC front page (this will change in time)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
Link to the BBC Report (Man found guilty over Belgium attacks terror suspect cash):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38223310
What this highlights is the BBC stripping away all references to Muslim and Islam in their attempts to “protect” the Muslim community as well as Islam. Shades of Rotherham etc.
On the 6pm news I heard reference to a proposal for an inquiry into how a “Belgian couple were still receiving housing benefits payments from Birmingham City Council for several months whilst the couple were actually living in Syria”. The city council have swiftly apologised!
Belgians? were they Walloons or Flemings I wonder?
Belgians?……the hell they were, though they’ll have had EU passports and freedom of movement.
Living in Syria?……Islamic State more like.
It is too late now and we would be better off considering how to organise a split country and where the frontiers should be.
It was always about the numbers and the elite’s ignorance of history and reality has not helped.
Nothing can now be done to really improve matters other than completely stop further immigration . This might give us all a chance to reflect and consider how to absorb the incomers.