You can see LibDem leader Farron getting a roasting from Andrew Neil in the video above over his lies about the Brexit referendum which he claims does not give a mandate to leave the Single Market…despite it being absolutely clear, and made so by politicans on both sides of the referendum again and again, that to vote to leave the EU was a vote to leave the Single Market.
If Andrew Neil can do it why cannot so many other BBC presenters? How many times have I heard Farron get away with murder as he spins his lies about respecting the result of the referendum and it being essential that the British Public have the last say when it is also absolutely clear he means none of it?
Mishal Husain on the BBC’s flagship political programme [07:09] that should, you’d think, be up to the job of quizzing Farron rigorously and forensically examining his statements for post-truth statements. Not so. Her main concern was one of semantics, whether or not it was the correct description of the vote Farron wants to call it a ‘second referendum’. Farron was otherwise allowed to escape scrutiny on what is the central question to this attack on Brexit by him….whether there is a mandate for leaving the Single Market….clearly there is but Husain was not interested in the slightest in challenging his highly misleading narrative.
Farron told us that the vote would not be a second referendum but would be about the terms of the deal, the referendum was about a departure he says, not a destination….hmmm…pretty sure most voters had an idea of what they wanted and weren’t voting simply to leave the EU as an end in itself…they had reasons for doing so and a ‘destination’ in mind…again not challenged by Husain.
Farron said the British people should have the final say…hmmm…they have just had that…the government advice on the referendum was that it was the final and binding vote…the result would be respected by government and carried out by them…shame the Supreme Court judges don’t seem to have read that as they have decided that the referendum was not binding but merely advice. [Note 3 of the 8 judges backed the government…so an issue of law or of opinion? Opinion. Thus subject to personal views. And note one judge said the courts should not have been involved...so Daily Mail was right…BBC shows no interest in this judge’s words oddly enough]
Farron said that if the second referendum rejected the deal on Brexit that would be final and we would stay in the EU. He was challenged here……on the description of the vote.
Curiously Farron says he accepts that the government has a mandate to negotiate but not for what he likes to call a Hard Brexit….in other words a Brexit as voted for in the referendum…you know…the one which did give the government a mandate to leave the Single Market….again no challenge from Husain.
He suggests that if the democratic will of the people is not fulfilled then there will be dissent on the streets and it will lead to a failure of trust in the political system. LOL. Farron is at the heart of the elite’s project to snub the people and damn democracy….Brexit was essentially all about a failure of trust in politicians..and every word that comes out of Farron’s mouth proves why they were right to reject him and his collaborators. He goes on…neither judges, MPs or Lords should have the final say…except they will of course, under Farron’s plan, as they will shape Brexit to their liking, ie no Brexit, and if the people reject that deal then we stay in the EU he says.
So to be clear…Farron wants all those Remain MPs who have the whip hand majority to decide what Brexit should look like, and when they have engineered it so that essentially it is a deal that means we stay in the EU the people will get a vote and as the majority want to leave the EU they will reject such a deal…which means under Farron’s plan we stay in the EU….genius. Heads Farron wins, tails Farron wins.
Again no challenge.
He then finishes on a douzey…considering his, er, respect for the referendum and democracy…..because, he tells us, the margin was so narrow it would be anti-democratic to carry out what the result of the referendum would entail…therefore we must do what the 48% want and not the 52%…that’s the democratic way, that’s what will unite the country, according to Farron. I might suggest you will have a civil war and not a united country. But again no challenge to his delusions and lies.
Remarkable journalism from Husain.
If you want confirmation of Farron’s ability to delude himself and lie through his teeth just watch the video above when he is talking about the Richmond by-election. He tells us that the by-election was about whatever the electorate wanted it to be about, and it was about Brexit…they don’t want to leave the Single Market or the Custom’s Union. Hmmm…surely they should wait until they have heard the decisive and democratic decision of Parliament before deciding themselves. How can they possibly make up their own minds without the help of Farron and his pals? It seems that when the vote is apparently against Brexit in a by-election [in a hard-core Remain voting constituency] then Farron is willing to accept their verdict without a Parliamentary debate and yet he thinks the actual referendum on this very specific subject is invalid and needs Parliamentary scrutiny and approval.
More Andrew Neil’s please…less useless doormats.
The BBC ‘fact-checking’ for false news? My arse.
Wonder when the minor fart aka tim farron {And the BBC} will listen the the 17.4 million people who stated and voted OUT which means OUT completely as it is clear that tiny tim farron and the fib-dumbocrats still doesnt get the message that the British people taught the fib-dumbocrats in the 2015 general election namely that the fib-dumbocrats are irrelevant. Tiny Tim must be delusional and think he is his predecessor nick clegg with over 50 MP’s
I voted to leave. Just that; nothing more. I wasn’t offered the option of leaving the single market or not. Please provide the evidence to the contrary as I missed it.
I remember Andrew Neil lamenting, possibly in the “Spectator”, quite a few years ago, the ending of the Scottish university tradition of debating, which went in parallel, more or less, with the precipitate decline of Scottish universities, once the best in the world, in general. It wasn’t an ideal culture, of course, since it gave us Alex Salmond and Gordon Brown, but it did produce some great minds, whereas now, if you wonder how Nicola Sturgeon got to be First Minister, you just have to look at the lungfish behind her in Holyrood, or at the SNP section at Westminster.
I thought Ms Sturgeon’s rise to power was due to her tiny mouth, based on the assumption that nothing of any significance is likely to emerge from it.
Wee Krankie Nickola drones on about Scottish trade with the EU If wee Krankie Nickola had any real bussiness experience she would not risk her money bussiness and her employees jobs and do bussiness with an organisation that could not produce balanced books that had been signed of by auditors or accountants as showing the financial health of the organisation Wee Krankie Nicola wanted to do bussiness with, I most certainly would not take such risks, So I take it that wee Krankie has not seen the EU’s books then the books that have not been signed of by the auditors/accountants for the last twenty two years but Wee Krankie Nickola still wants to risk Scotland’s and Scottish taxpayers money and continue to do bussiness with such an financial desaster as the EC
BBC obviously have Farron’s number on redial.
Of 650 MP’s, I would have thought they could spread the net wider. Considering Conservative MP’s outnumber LibDem MPs, by approx 11 to 1, why aren’t we seeing 11 times more Tory MP’s on the Beeb? Answers on a postcard.
Or if they don’t like Tories, how about Kelvin Hopkins (MP for Luton North) from the Labour fringes? Why not interview him? He’s got far better things to say than Tim Farron, and brings far more to the table. And no, I’m not from Luton North, just that I’ve heard him speak about Brexit, and he makes more sense than all the LibDems put together.
When Tim Farron gets booted out of politics I wonder if the BBC will kick-start a new series of “All Creatures great and small” with Tim playing the role of James Herriot/ Aka Farron “Hey Up Mr Farron take sheep up too top field, by heck bugger me, watch u mean Bloody hell” I’m sure he’d get more votes being a shit kicker actor than a crap politician!
He could play the part of Herriot’s right arm.
I was thinking he could play Tricky Woo Mrs Pomfreys little dog. Small, insignificant and yappy.
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Hmm “When Tim Farron gets booted out of politics”
Given tiny tim farron’s delusions of importance, his lack of ability at anything useful or important and coupled with tiny tim’s mindless support for the disaster that is the European Union and all it aims and stands for then tiny tim has only one calling and at which he would be totaly at home in…………..Namely a career at the BBC doing investigative journalis, news or current afairs a career at the BBC for which tiny tim is most suited for and tiny tim would be most at home with amongst the rest of the BBC’s so-called {apart from one or two examples who occaisionly been known to have shown some professionalism} journalists, news readers and current affairs show hosts
How about a new BBC investigative series hosted by the dynamic duo Tim Farron and Stacey Dooley, they could spend each episode competing against each other taking on unansweered questions such as how many baked beans are in an unopened tin, or how much rope would it take for me to hang myself on it… Or even…. What on earth were the BBC thinking???
“Farron said that if the second referendum rejected the deal on Brexit that would be final and we would stay in the EU.”
I’m pretty damn sure that once Article 50 is triggered, that starts a two-year clock ticking during which we negotiate terms and after that, out. So if the deal is rejected, we leave with no deal. There’s no provision in the rules simply to untrigger Article 50.
Or so I was given to understand, but no-one ever gets pulled up on this, so have I got it wrong?
I can accept the possibility that the EU would break their own rules to achieve that outcome, but that’s a pretty important thing for people to know about, surely?
There’s a court case in Ireland trying to argue that Brexit can be halted even after A50 is triggered. Obviously this is being backed by the usual suspects, ie Farron, Blair, Miliband, Heseltine, Soros etc.
The idea of course isn’t to win, it’s to browbeat the public into deciding Brexit is more trouble than it’s worth. Don’t let it work.
I was under the impression that the case in N.Ireland took place prior to the one in England and it was thrown out by the Judges, it was then that Gina Miller decided to try again in London…
What if the second referendum (that we are never going to have)resulted in 52% remain, 48% leave, wouldn’t that mean we leavers were entitled to a third referendum, it’s only fair?
The 2016 referendum was the second on our membership of the EU. The first, that gave the wrong result, was in 1975, courtesy of Harold Wilson.
So Minor Fart need worry no more.
Although the art 50 para says nothing about untriggering itself, I can forsee a scenario where Farron goes to the ECJ to do just that.
To quote one of the YouTube comments, Tim Farron is a cunt.
All Lives Matter, well said and to the point, I second that.
They have some uses though.
Yesterday afternoon, after the Supreme Court decision, bBBC Radio 5 decided to do a vox pop, as they usually do. So, they went to Kendal, the heart of Dim Farron’s constituency and almost the only place where the Remoaners had a majority in the referendum. They even managed to find the only immigrant in Cumbria, presumably the one that Dim Farron says is “a blessing”.
Little Timmy Farron is making a pitch for all those complacent middle class labour-voting university and college lecturers , NHS middle managers, social workers et al who voted labour, also remain, but are increasingly disillusioned with Corbyn. He thinks that with a but of luck, it might gain him a few parliamentary seats on the Richmond model. Our Timmy knows full well what he’s doing . UKIP can feed off the rest of the labour corpse. The BBC, whose managers and presenters tend to match the Farron demographic are just aiding and abetting him.
‘Little Timmy Farron is making a pitch for all those complacent middle class’
Yes, exactly so. This is why he has no respect for the 52% who voted out. He would settle for the approval of about 20% of comfortable Remainers that would sustain his and his Lib Dem colleagues own careers of MPs. And of course that left-liberal metropolitan tendency includes swathes of BBC staff. No wonder little Timmy is always on our airwaves and our tv screens.
I play a game and try to guess which leftist will be on bBC news/politics shows or anywhere else they could stuff them………….
The Green lady ( Lucas?)
Tiny Tim
Diane abbott
Clegg
Bandana Woman
Barry gardiner
Lucy Powell
WTF is going on………………
Indoctrination and brainwashing is what is going on and all on the licence fee.
… not forgetting Anna Soubry and the horizontally challenged Ken Clarke.
Farron is working for the EU against the expressed will of the majority of the people, he is not alone.
The referendum result was to leave the EU. period.
Get on with it.
The final outcome is not in the gift of the UK government, but out is what was voted for.
That means that at the end of the Article 50 process the UK will not be a member state of the EU (how hard is this?)and, according to article 8 of the Lisbon treaty the EU will maintain friendly relations with its neighbour.
Andrew Neil mentions the likelyhood of the EU having no incentive to offer us a good deal if in Timmy’s proposed referendum the only alternative choice is to stay in the EU.
Well obviously Theresa has countered this by stating that the alternative will be ‘to walk away’ which is a much sounder negotiation tactic and one which I don’t believe will bother the majority 52% too much.
Tim has the opportunity to demonstrate his concern about ‘respecting the vote of the referendum’ and his support for democracy and the will of the people etc. by proposing this as a third option in his desired referendum.
Come on Tim show us what a good democrat you are!
Won’t bother us too much ? So how will WTO rules work then ?
Please explain in detail your understanding.
I don’t care! I voted for political liberty. Men and women have died in their millions to ensure that we have that, so a little bit of economic disruption for a few years amounts to about three-fifth’s of five-eighth’s of F*ck All.
Dogger,
And the vast majority of countries in the World are not in the EU or the single market. I don’t see a problem.
I am getting fed up with all this crap from Miller, Farron, Blair and their boot lickers in the BBC. Very soon a lot of us are going to get seriously annoyed with these PWE
All sovereignty rests with us the voters.This is the simple definition of democracy all of us can grasp. Nobody needs some effing law degree to grasp this.
Parliament is our forum. It works for us. It decided to ask us whether to stay or go. A simple question. We made our decision. It was clearly understood by everyone except pricks like Farron and the BBc that go means go and that the vote was binding.
The judges are wrong. Parliament has it’s instructions from the voters and should get on with it.
In the 18th century Tom Paine and his friends would have torn the judges verdict apart.
Also these whining gits need to apologise for giving away our sovereignty in the first place. It is ours not theirs and they had no right to do so. It is inalienable and nobodys and no one generation to dispose of ever.
From now on we need to stop listening to them until article 50 is acted on and we leave. I will not take kindly to lectures from judges, politicians and pundits and any EU politician ever again on this great matter.
Agreed. So why are we going to give back power over us to the very institution which gave it away last time ? How stupid is that ?
Time for The Harrogate Agenda. Sign up now please.
Lib Dems party political broadcast on ITV. Mixed race couple wake up to radio alarm the day after the referendum News reports a yes to leave, couple shake head. It goes on in groundhog day fashion, bringing Trump’s election into it, etc., still shaking heads and then finishes with Tiny Tim telling us to just vote for his party and all will be well again, I think that’s what he trying to say, TV doesn’t work too well after impact from clog!
For those of a strong constitution.
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/01/25/lib-dems-pastiche-groundhog-day-latest-party-political-broadcast
Sickbag, quick! Typical couple eh? And, looks like they met in a bar the night before…
Unbelievable rubbish. An anthem for doomed snowflakes. In the US odds of 10 to one are considered fair. Here I think 20 to one is about right.
These people need a good therapist.
Every time I see Faron, I’m reminded of Peter Cook’s line, as Richard III in Blackadder, looking at Edmund Blackadder he sneers, “What a little turd!”
Hmm “The liberal democrats are the party of real opposition” what with a massive total of NINE MP’s PS liberal democrats you chose the wrong film in GROUNDHOG DAY surely James Cameron’s TITANIC might have been more apropiate given the current state of the liberal democrat party and its so-called policies
Agree, just incredibly awful! How much money was spent on that pile of horse dung? Have these people no self-awareness?
They just HAD to make it a mixed race couple didn’t they,so predictable and so pathetic?
Anyone remember ‘Trumpton’ and ‘Camberwick Green’?
Tim Farron looks like the carpenter, Chippy Minton.
Even the National Trust are doing this now.
“Come On Tim” I say!
Hoping UKIP put his smug and clueless mug on their posters.
The very FACE of Remain. More of Tim please BBC!
Surprised it wasn’t two men in the bed.
The most pleasing words to hear someone say to Tim Farron:
“They told me to make it look like an accident.”
I can only imagine what the people in Farrons` constituency must be like….. Who in thier right mind would think “oh… Farron is the politician most likely to represent my interests in Westminster, especially now that he is leader of the party.” I mean… WTF??!! Seriously if he was the only name on the ballot paper I would abstain…
ToobiWan January 25, 2017 at 7:17 pm
“…Every time I see Faron, I’m reminded of Peter Cook’s line, as Richard III in Blackadder, looking at Edmund Blackadder he sneers, “What a little turd!”…”
He’s less substantial than that! As mentioned here previously, Tim Farron is an anagram of Minor Fart.
R4 09.00 ish had a panel of experts cogitating, educating and discussing the fact that we are all full of parasites…and some have many more than others……
Immediately it was now clear…….Tim Farron is an advanced form of a parasite.
The programme was overseen by another one……Melvyn Bugg.
You are right to mention on a site that exposes the appalling BBC bias, the glorious exception that is Andrew Neil.
Mikef – The BBC keep Neil their for the sole reason he is a bit like a “person of colour” who has been parachuted into drama/docmentary about King Alfred.
He is their to make a point that the BBC can be balanced and also broadcasts diverse views. Unfortunately one swallow does not make a summer.
They must in their heart of hearts hate him!