It must be great to have the national broadcaster on your side, championing your cause and throwing doubt on your opponent’s arguments, sowing confusion about their aims, generating a vision of apocalyptic doom and gloom upon your opponent’s cause. Yep, the EU must be overjoyed to have the BBC on its side.
The BBC is having a field day telling May & Co what they can and cannot have in the negotiations….who needs the EU wasting its time when the BBC is there to lay out the terms itself?
Andrew Neil casts doubt upon it all and declares…‘That’s just not possible, Prime Minister, is it?’
Laura Kuenssberg suggests May is fooling herself…
Is she fooling herself? Or does Theresa May have reserves of political magic as yet unseen?
Not only is May a fool but Brexit will wreck the economy and unleash the ‘demons’ in the Tory Party…meaning of course some sort of latent Fascist streak…..
All this, knowing that one false move could wreak havoc on the economy or unleash demons inside her own party.
Oh, not only foolish but pigheaded and wrong…Brexit is not the right course for the country….
Just as determination can go a long way to achieving any goal, politicians can be resolute and also wrong.
There are no guarantees that the prime minister’s aims are the right ones for the country. Still less certainty that they can be achieved.
Funny thing when Boris complained about the EU saying it would punish Britain for leaving the BBC jumped on him…..Brexit: Boris Johnson warns against ‘punishment beatings’…oh and the BBC’s political editor, James Landale, ridicules Boris [despite Boris being right]….Brexit memo to Boris Johnson: Don’t mention the War
Of course it was Landale who 25 years ago made up a rhyme about the Euro-sceptic Boris which may give us a clue as to what colours Landale’s reporting now…
“Boris told such dreadful lies It made one gasp and stretch one’s eyes”
Lansdale finished with this piece of advice…
Maybe Mr Johnson might remember the last line of the Fawlty Towers episode when a ranting Basil is being led away by the nurses and one of the stunned German guests asks: “However did they win?”
Well I guess we won the war because not only did we have God on our side but also the British Broadcasting Corporation which backed the British war effort rather than siding with the enemy.
So Boris is chastised and mocked but now the EU is saying we are blackmailing them the BBC once again jumps, not on the EU, but on the Brexit team…. John Humphrys on the Today Show telling David Davies that it was ‘inconceivable’ that Britain could get what it wants in negotiations…nice to have the BBC doing the EU’s dirty work pre-empting negotiations and claiming our own demands are ridiculous and unachievable. Then Humphrys moved onto the nonsense claim that the government was blackmailing the EU quoting this from May from her speech….
In security terms a failure to reach agreement would mean our cooperation in the fight against crime and terrorism would be weakened.
Humphrys says…
‘and that has been interpreted as…..’give us what we want or else…’…It did rather sound like blackmail didn’t it?’
What he doesn’t bother to quote is the rest of her sentence….
In this kind of scenario, both the United Kingdom and the European Union would of course cope with the change, but it is not the outcome that either side should seek. We must therefore work hard to avoid that outcome.
She is not blackmailing anyone just stating the bleeding obvious…no agreement then other ways of cooperating on security must be worked out.
Humphrys also fails to note the huge amount of times May assured us that security and co-operation is a top priority…in her speech and in the letter itself…..
‘It is a plan for a new deep and special partnership between Britain and the European Union. A partnership of values. A partnership of interests. A partnership based on cooperation in areas such as security and economic affairs.
We will play our part to ensure that Europe is able to project its values and defend itself from security threats.
With Europe’s security more fragile today than at any time since the end of the Cold War, weakening our cooperation and failing to stand up for European values would be a costly mistake.
In an increasingly unstable world, we must continue to forge the closest possible security co-operation to keep our people safe. We face the same global threats from terrorism and extremism. That message was only reinforced by the abhorrent attack on Westminster Bridge and this Place last week.
‘So there should be no reason why we should not agree a new deep and special partnership between the UK and the EU that works for us all.
‘We seek continued cooperation with our European partners in important areas such as crime, terrorism and foreign affairs.
In the letter….
We want to make sure that Europe remains strong and prosperous and is capable of projecting its values, leading in the world, and defending itself from security threats.
In security terms a failure to reach agreement would mean our cooperation in the fight against crime and terrorism would be weakened. In this kind of scenario, both the United Kingdom and the European Union would of course cope with the change, but it is not the outcome that either side should seek. We must therefore work hard to avoid that outcome.
We should work towards securing a comprehensive agreement. We want to agree a deep and special partnership between the UK and the EU, taking in both economic and security cooperation.
We want to play our part to ensure that Europe remains strong and prosperous and able to lead in the world, projecting its values and defending itself from security threats.
Europe’s security is more fragile today than at any time since the end of the Cold War. Weakening our cooperation for the prosperity and protection of our citizens would be a costly mistake.
Together, I know we are capable of reaching an agreement about the UK’s rights and obligations as a departing member state, while establishing a deep and special partnership that contributes towards the prosperity, security and global power of our continent.
Talk about cherry-picking a single phrase and attributing a completely false interpretation to it that coincidentally suits your own purpose….casting doubt upon Brexit. Good old BBC.
Oh yes, the “phoney war” is over … the RemainBBC will be in all out attack mode for next two years.
I really think we have a case for LF boycott based on BBC’s proven political stance.
Yep…why should the majority of people in this country who voted for Brexit pay for an organisation that pumps out propaganda that is completely at odds with what they have voted for? No taxation without representation.
The BBC et al love boycotts and see economic power of the consumer as a weapon against the likes of Google and Facebook, the withdrawal of advertising due to consumer pressure reins in Google when all else fails, so shouldn’t the same pressure be laid to bare upon the BBC? Can’t lock us all up…and surely the BBC has a legal contract with us to provide accurate, true and impartial news…which it clearly doesn’t.
Norman Smith should be on the stage he’s so theatrical.
Even with sound on mute I could see him really emoting about something throwing his arms around like a windmill.
Mrs May had made threats to the EU about security and its really not on according to our Norman.
I don’t know what speech he was listening to but what I heard was a calm and sensible explanation of the facts from Mrs May ..No threats involved just telling it like it is.
On the other hand the EU leaders seem to be making plenty of threats against the UK .I don’t see them flagged up by Norman Smith or the BBC in general
I find all Smith’s reporting not just biased, but rather childish.
I’m worried that invoking Article 50 will incur the wrath of the other members of the Eurovision song contest, and we won’t get any votes.
Actually scrap that, we never do anyway..Carry on !
Shelly, it’s a good job we don’t have ‘Jeux Sans Frontieres’ any more – we might have literally got a good kicking from the EU countries!
Now I’m imagining Juncker dressed as giant Kangeroo, drunkenly trying to run across a greasy pole…
Probably not to dissimilar to a normal day for him, I would imagine.
“Prime Minister, can you lay out for us your complete negotiating strategy? Can you assure us that you will take the moral high ground in the negotiations by unilaterally conceding all areas where you think the UK has an advantage? Do you realise that objecting to any of the demands made by the EU will be seen as a hostile act? Wouldn’t it be a lot easier, Prime Minister, to remain a member of the EU, perhaps making a greater financial contribution to compensate them for the upset that you have caused them? Wouldn’t it be better still if we became an Associate Member, paying contributions, accepting their laws but having no vote and receiving no development funds?”
The remoaners are a right miserable lot.
When it comes to the negotiations all they see is failure.
What they do seem to advocate is us giving the eu everything they want (as an act of good faith they say) such as letting all the eu people in the uk stay just like that.
We’ve tried to show good faith a couple of times.
First, when Cameron went asking them for some scraps to present to the voters in the upcoming referendum so that he could say he had been given concessions from the eu and they more or less told him where to stick his concessions.
Second, when May offered to let the eu people already in the uk stay if the eu would let the Brits in the eu also stay. She was also quickly kicked into touch.
The thing is, ALL the situations with us and the eu currently favour them and it’s in their interests to get a deal.
We have something like 3 times as many of them in the uk than those in the eu who come from here, it’s to their advantage to let them stay. They don’t want to talk about it.
Our imports from them are something like £80 billion more than our exports to them so any tariffs would give us a multi billion £ advantage. We ask for free trade which would benefit them more than us yet, the remoaners, and those who want to ‘punish’ us seem to want tariffs.
We contribute the giant share towards eu security, intelligence and military yet they carp on when we mention it as a meaningful part of our discussions. Maybe we should charge them for the information that we are paying the likes of GCHQ to gather.
Our contributions so far are (I think) over £500 billion and we must own a huge amount of eu assets yet they want an exit payment. How much will Scotland be paying us to exit from the uk after 300 years?
Will everybody who leaves the eu be charged many billions to leave?
The last one left in will be fabulously rich.
Why should we give them our fishing stocks?
We are in the strongest position in every area regarding getting a deal. We have 4 aces and they have 2 pairs. We will have to be fantastically weak and stupid to lose out on anything with the eu yet I don’t have much confidence in our negotiators.
DON’T give everything away. We are in a far stronger position than they are. If we come away with a poor deal it’s ALL down to useless negotiating by us. They will try to bully us but we hold all the cards. Will our politicians play for the uk or will they behave like craven cowards and give everything away (but be looked on by the eu as nice chaps for being so benevolent)
Emmanuel,
Exactly. Top post. We are in a very strong position. The EU is very weak. The Remainers are motivated by a hatred of this country. They are sick.
The bBC finds itself joined at the hip with the SNP and Sinn Fein Ira as the principle Brexit troublemakers. ( throw in Clegg as well……..what a ****
The Warsi woman talks about the enemy within…….what about this lot………..
Interesting that they all have 1 thing in common…………Trough Snufflers the whole damn lot of them!
I reckon we only need 4 months to sort this Brexit business out, 2 months to decide what we will need from the Eu and 2 months for the Eu to respond. Then press on for a better future. The Eu club will want to keep selling us all there stuff whatever they say now .
All under 4 months with their grating demands insisting we must do this or must not do that, the latest being that Spain will have a veto if they are not satisfied with the post-Brexit status of Gibraltar and that we must dismantle the Commonwealth tax havens and promise not to cut taxes in the U.K. to stimulate growth.
Maggie May should grow some and write back telling Junkers 87 and Tsk Tsk plainly that we will do no such things and if they don’t like it they can just fuck off.
Peter,
They are pissing in the wind. Total panic in the EU as they realise their bluff is being called. If Treezer had any balls she would order a joint Army, Navy and Air Force exercise around Gibralter just to concentrate the little minds of the EU. Pathetic little babies .
Article 50/1. “Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.”
That seems fairly clear to me. It suggests that we can leave in a manner of our choosing, not that of the EU. The ‘negotiations’ (if any) should be mercifully brief.
Jagman,
And could have done it almost a year ago !
Agreed, A few early morning cannon wake u calls off the coast of Gibraltar wouldn’t come a miss, might as well get our money’s worth from our 2% defence spending.
“It must be great to have the national broadcaster on your side”.
Sounds like that coup attempt by the rainbow darlings was indeed successful! Told ya!