Perhaps because Emma Barnett is Jewish she feels she cannot criticise any element of Islam especially when events as happened in Manchester this week unfold. Or, perhaps it is because she has imbibed the BBC ethos not to criticise Islam unduly.
Laughably she held court over a discussion this week on her programme that suggested what we need is action….and indeed she has doubled up on that by writing something similar in the Times today entitled…‘My grieving city is built on grit – but sees little of it in the powerful’. Reading the article you will find no real analsyis, no thoughts on the real cause of the problem other than that Manchester is tough and craves ‘action’.
This is the Emma Barnett who sided with Corbyn when he decided that the best approach is to appease Muslim sentiment and bow down to the bombers….he will change foreign policy, and no doubt domestic policy towards Islam, in order to suit Muslims who oppose that foreign policy…and who threaten us with ‘angry and alienated’ Muslim youth should we not comply.
And so Barnett complains that the ‘powerful’ have no grit to deal with the problem and yet she backs the one who abjectly surrenders to the threat. She opened her programme with talk of Emmeline Pankhurst and how Manchester had ‘marked a sea change’…..ridiculous to proudly parade the feminist Emmeline Pankhurst and not say why she is important in the context of an Islamic attack on what were mainly young women enjoying themselves, and as for a ‘sea change’…a sea change in what? In attitudes towards Islam, or how to deal with potential terrorists? She doesn’t say.
What will she make of a Muslim calling for internment camps?
7/7 Met police chief calls for extremists to be locked up in INTERNMENT camps as he says MI5 and police cannot keep track of 3,000 terror suspects
Are we at war?
Macron in the French election debate used this line against Le Pen..‘the greatest wish of the terrorists is that Madame Le Pen takes power in France…because they are looking for the radicalisation, the division, the civil war that you bring to this country.’
Trouble is it is the Establishment politicians like him who cower and surrender in the face of bombs and blackmail who have created the civil war, their policies of mass immigration of people who hold radically different beliefs and values to Europeans have created the divisions that tear Europe apart now. Le Pen might have had the answers and the guts, Macron has grand words and nothing else….just as our own politicians and media have as well.
You can see the problem vividly exposed in the video below…again it’s left to Andrew Neil to ask the difficult question such as ‘what lessons have we failed to learn?‘…with Hazel Blears refusing to put the blame where it belongs….and Douglas Murray suggesting we control immigration to stamp down on this problem.
Blears talks of a threadbare, worthless ideolgy, saying ‘we’ve tackled Nazism and Fascism, we need the same determination to defeat this ideology’...Neil suggests it was ‘total war’ that defeated those ideologies…Blears said she wouldn’t contemplate that of course……hmmmm…. it would help to identify that ‘threadbare, worthless ideology’….is it the violence or the religion she is concerned with?…Murray says it comes from the religion…….he also says that there is a complete disconnect from what politicians think is the problem and what the Public across Europe recognise as the real problem…immigration.
Blears says it is essential to have critical thinking to tackle the ideology, lol…and then attacks Murray saying that his rhetoric, ie his critical thinking, upsets Muslims and inflames the situation….note the counter-terror officer rebuts Blears line that the Muslim community’s attitude is not part of the problem…..
This is the Emma Barnett who sided with Corbyn when he decided that the best approach is to appease Muslim sentiment and bow down to the bombers….he will change foreign policy, and no doubt domestic policy towards Islam, in order to suit Muslims who oppose that foreign policy…and who threaten us with ‘angry and alienated’ Muslim youth should we not comply.
What like this:
Britain’s Labour party announced, in its 2017 elections manifesto, that, if elected in June, the party would immediately recognize the state of Palestine.
Maybe Emma can have a giggle at this:
https://bbcwatch.org/2017/05/28/bbc-report-on-end-of-palestinian-prisoners-hunger-strike-tells-part-of-the-story/
Surely the comedic potential of stopping a hunger strike in time to commence a period of fasting has not escaped those wits at HIGNFY?
Or, maybe, it has?
Hazel Blears is interesting. I think she is no fool and knows the reality of what is going on but treads a delicate path for many reasons. I remember her speaking on Radio 4 toward the end of the time of the 1997-2010 Labour Government in which she had been a Minister. When I started listening to the clip above, I thought she might have been a bit more forthright now that she is under less restriction from governmental responsibility.
She did not actually say it back in 2008 or 2009, but I remember that what appeared to be lurking behind her radio studio words was: “We need to re-Christianise Britain.”
She did not have the guts to say that then, if she believed it, but she appeared to be saying then if any responsibility is to be placed on the indigenous British people, then it is to rediscover our own spiritual, Christian roots. Rediscover the spirituality that has shaped Britain, informed our laws and society, over as long a period as Islam has existed. As a society we have comprehensively junked that during the past 50 years and it is a rather interesting ‘tithe’ of our history, bearing in mind the Reformation anniversary that we reach this autumn.
In a strange way, that is also behind what Douglas Murray says for much of the time. Our feeble understanding and responses to these attacks comes from a lack of spiritual realism and clear thinking. Muddled ethics supported by muddled spirituality tends to create muddled thinking.
Interestingly, that is what is now feebly being asked of British Muslims by most of our politicians and the mainstream media. It was wonderfully demonstrated by the Iman’s claim on BBC’s Sunday Programme (Radio 4, 7.10 – 7.50am today) about Mohammed’s troops and a litter of puppies. There is a reference to it elsewhere on this site, on the B-BBC Weekend Thread. “Please dumb down to our level.” Imam: “OK, here is a soft, warm cuddly ‘aah moment’ for you.”
No.
We need to be clear: what do we believe?
Humanist inspired goodness. Yes, that is no bad thing. That will get us a some way but only goes so far.
It ends in the grave.
Real true spirituality, as demonstrated in Jesus Christ and what God calls us all to emulate? Yes. That will not only deal with our own wrongdoing but will open eyes, hearts and minds, not just in the Christian community in the UK but within other faith communities, pretty much all but one of which, live totally peaceably here with everyone in the UK. It may actually make us a better society in which to live as an immigrant or first or second generation Briton.
Peace with God can bring peace with others.
Good piece up2snuff.
Heard Blears at Tolpuddle a few years back-played the useful idiots like a violin as she endlessly banged on about a range of womens initiatives in Salford.
They clapped and hollered like seals-and I learned much about how to play the Left for the fools that they are. She`s a faux rebel-motorbike leathers, but with a ready cheque book to repay money she`s conned from the Commons.
The BBC idea of a Gracie Fields for the New Left. But a phoney top to toe.
Your “religious” comments are valued. The curent efforts to understand the very religious war we`re in are running on empty if we don`t put some Christian guide wheels or a small wheel at the back of the penny farthing. The culture used to have the language to at least sit down with a Muslim or Jew. These days, our science-lite psychobabble and cultural references to Star Wars etc simply won`t do.
Muslims at least take their God seriously. We were only a force when we did the same. And our ongoing betrayal of Israle and the Jews is getting dealt with by the year.
But hey-only the Bible eh?
chrisH, input about Blears welcome. That would explain why she hasn’t clearly said what she seemed to be implying.
Small ‘g’ please for Muslims’ god. 😉
Jesus did say, after all, ” I AM the way, the truth and the life.”
A Britain or Europe confidently asserting its Christian roots would never have allowed politicians to allow millions of the enemies of Christianity to settle in Europe, or dabble in multiculturalism. They wouldn’t see the light of day.
Now its too late for that. Re- Christianising now is like getting an innoculation after the infection has taken root. In any case, it will be a fake. Christian evangelising does not work, when it is for political aims – on the practical as well as spiritual levels. We will be affronting Mammon and God.
What we need now is something different. An emetic, or a treatment by fire. Something like Yugfoslavia went through. What one can title the First Modern Multicultural war.
The result in Yugoslavia, after a nasty civil war, is a genuine peace. A peace at the very heart of Croatia, Slovenia and Serbia. Though not rich, these countries are now at peace within themselves, and it shows in the way they react to foreigners. They now assert their Christian roots and loyalty to the faith, even though quite a few do not attend church regularly. This assertion is a warning to politicians – no Muslims.
To rescue ourselves now will require a violent struggle. We can win this, as a we are still a very comfortable majority. Not so in in 20 years or so.
In the last few years, wife and I have avoided Italy, France and Germany, as seeing hijabs in the thousands every day, and what it presaged, was too distressing. So we have been visiting Eastern Europe, particularly the Christian parts of the the former Yugoslavia.
What struck us was the peace and harmony of these states. They are of one religion, either Orthodox or Catholic. Talking with them on the issues, specially after their very strong moonshine liquor we were invited to, was educational. Many of the ones we spoke to, were not church going, but insisted that they were Catholic. It was clear that they were asserting that the underlying and undergirding culture of their nation was Christian, and Western. For politicians, media and pollsters, the public was asserting that there was no room for any other cultural tradition. It was a warning. No more multicultism.
The nations were happy and peaceful. Even as foreigners, unable to speak or understand the language, we felt safe, no matter the area or the time.
Now consider Western Europe, particularly England. We discarded our Christian heritage as some kind of old garment to be chucked into the recycle can, and then adopted the new religion of Multiculturalism with gusto. Islam stepped into this space. Never in history of Islamic conquests, has a nation discarded its spiritual past, allowing Islam to enter without a fight. In fact, such is our stupidity, we welcomed Islam. And Islam behaved in the manner a victorious conqueror does – raping native girls by the tens of thousands, which the defeated nation then tried to hide for decades.
What do we do now? First, watch “Civilisation” by Kenneth Clarke – Four DVD set for just £12.
Kenneth Clark correctly identifies the source of our civilisation, no matter what we got from our Greco-Roman past. That “past” would be past, were it not for a small band of Christian monks, who resurrected them, and then built Western civilisation. The great Gothic cathedrals of France and England, and even Germany, and the music, art, scientific and engineering theory, and the political and philosophic discourse that followed, are testimony to that leap of civilisation, that has no equal. It was as Kenneth Clark states” a close run thing”. Civilisation is always a close run thing, for the ways to barbarism are many.
The answer to all this pap ?
The first lesson of war, “know your enemy”.
taffman, absolutely. Also listen to what they say.
Up2Snuff &NCBBC
A small step . Reprint all the Ladybird books and RJ Unstead and put them in the infant schools .
Then in geography lessons , the kids learn about life in deserts , tundra , rain forests , kibbutzes , juncks as something you get on a plane to go and see . For Europe on a ferry . Not just round the block .
Catholic schools have always celebrated Bonfire night . It’s based on celebrating a Papist plot being foiled . Supremacy of the CofE was always implied .
Teach multiculturalism is only in Armageddon .
I’m not familiar with Emma Bs work as highlighted here, but Guido has her Women’s Hour interview with Jezer today and she wipes the floor with the oily old rag. Enjoy
https://order-order.com/2017/05/30/corbyn-self-destructs-on-womans-hour/#disqus_thread