Ex-Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg loses
Note Dimbleby claims Clegg and Libdems ‘paid the price’ for going into coalition with Tories…no….they paid the price because Clegg u-turned on his tuition fee promise…and now because they are useless whinging Remoaners.
Sadly missed…but oh no…the rather sinister lying old goat……
Vince Cable’s back
You can’t keep a good man down.
Am surprised about Cable. I thought the Twickenham voters would realise he’s no longer young enough for the job.
Cleggie going is definitely a pro-Brexit scalp and if as seems likely with the BBC not mentioning the Lib Dems overall results on the 3pm News – apart from Clegg’s loss – then Vince may be holding his Parliamentary meetings with LibDem colleagues in the proverbial telephone box.
The BBC’s political situation is looking none too good. More on that later.
But just as bad, that ignoramus and climate-fanatic “Sir” Ed Davey is also back. That I could have done without.
My cartoon with a roundup of how it went down (if this the comedy thread)
Not a comedy Thread. There’s going to be an element of political paralysis for a while, something we could do without. Apparently the LibDems have done a bit better than the lack of a BBC News mention indicated.
The problem is – and this is where it gets rather serious (am listening to TODAY & Philip Cowley discussing this) – we will probably have to have another Election after the Party Conference season and after the German Election.
I was kidding, it’s just that I only just recovered from the laughter fit brought on by that Sheffield result.
I agree it’s an uttter mess (stronger word implied) but thank goodness it wasn’t worse. Without the SNP making a balls up of the last few years and the conservatives being preferable to Salmond even we’d actually have a Corbyn government, mad as that sounds. We came *this* close!
SC, what do you think will happen with Sturgeon?
Up2,
Not SC I know, but Sturgeon has to go. She is a total failure on every level.
Not SC either, but I don’t think anything will happen to Sturgeon. The gloss is off, but they were never going to be able to repeat 56 out of 59 MPs. They still won most MPs so I don’t see a move to kick her out.
Probably hung outside Edinburgh castle.
Great cartoon Scottish Calvin…how topical too.
Questions I`ve yet to hear on the BBC.
1, Brexit -full steam ahead, 80% of the vote want this
2. Remoaners can slink back under their stones-the only party offering to stay got a kicking from the Tories in Scotland, or lost they former leader (albeing with 4 more seats…wup di doo!)
3. Labour would have WALKED if had they had Alan Johnson as leader as opposed to Mr Hugo Creosote.
4. Conservatives ran the worst campaign in living memory-they need to cut out the Soubrys and Clarkes now, replace the Hammonds and the Rudds with the TRUE believers like Rees Mogg, Raabs and Redwoods.
May can oversee it, but she is responsible for this dreadful near escape.
Charisma free, leaving her best players like Gove, Johnson on the bench was not a good plan.
The Tories had better get the taste for Labour wipeout once more, and need to say sorry to the young who have had nowhere to go but into Labours Child Catcher Van( pink or cerise, Islamic Green or Blood Red next).
We all voted Tory here at work and locally, but we all knew they were shit.
They`d better get the BBC quick, before we do get trouble. Our kids are seething.
Cable the arse that sold the Royal mail off at a knock down price for his city mates, how on earth does he manage to get re-elected, there needs to be an age limit on MPs and the same applied to “the house off toads”
There’s also the BBC being a bit too cocky about their role:
Heard on Radio 4 this morning “….although May won her seat and the Tories won she showed signs that she won’t be the leader of that party….”
Then they played May’s winning speech “I have no intention of standing down”.
Yep, BBC are back to pushing their own fake news agenda. At least we had 24 hours off yesterday.
Tabs,
The BBC, world leaders in fake news !
Speaking of fake news, ignoring the obvious for the rest of the year, is this accurate?:
It was sunny and windy in the UK on Wednesday — which was great for renewable energy.
Renewables provide more than half UK electricity for first time
BBC.CO.UK|BY BBC NEWS
Oh, hang on…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40198567?
‘National Grid reported that, on Wednesday lunchtime, power from wind, solar, hydro and wood pellet burning supplied 50.7% of UK energy. Add in nuclear, and by 2pm low carbon sources were producing 72.1% of electricity in the UK.’
This brings to mind our constituency Labour PPC claiming victory because she got more votes than all other opposition parties combined.
When she, and they, got together around the same as the Conservative MP still elected by the majority.
She was a teacher. Explains so much.
If the political ambitions don’t work out, she could always be a BBC reporter.
Considering Drax has switched to wood pellet and that is about as ‘carbon neutral’ and ‘eco-friendly’ as an 1895 steam locomotive, I’d say National Grid are, to use the vernacular, ‘avin a larf!
Given that solar goes to 0% every day for 16 hours at least and wind can be at effectively zero for days and days on end means that this narrative the BBC push is as bunk as all it’s others.
It all has to have spinning reserve powered by good old fossil fuels immediately available.
I write DONALD TRUMP X on my ballot paper. I expect i was not alone.
How do they manage to jemmy off the lead lined coffin lid so quickly to get the opinion of Aniseed Soubriquet? That pissed old trout only gets on the BBC when Juncker share his bottle with her and her BBC gofers?
Keep seeing UKIP with “0” seats at the bottom of the screen. Does that tell me that the Greens have “0” as well.
Please Lord-let it be so!
The Green vote died the death. In fact it made even UKIP’s look healthy.
Which will not, of course, inhibit the BBC in any way from using everything from its lousy soap operas to wildlife programmes promoting Green politics at every conceivable opportunity, exactly as it has done for the past decade.
Talking of Green
\\ Ben Gummer lost his seat
“2005 and 2010 was managing director of family-owned Sancroft International*, an environmental consultancy company set up and led by his father John Gummer (Lord Deben of Climate Committee)
* (with Christopher Booker expressing concern at the “involvement of some of our most senior politicians in the … lucrative and expanding industry of renewable energy” ) //
But Red/Green Tory Zac Goldsmith has won back Richmond.
@GC cooper is that right about Green vote dying
BBC has : UKIP 1.8%, GRN Green Party 1.6%
Downside of LibDem’s partial recovery, Ed Davey is back. Totally incompetent Minister – makes Theresa May as PM look good – but he’s also dangerous on the environment and he’s a BBC favourite.
Up2,
He is a total nonentity. But, then , most of them are !
Wonderful that useless piece of dross , Clegg , has gone !!!
I have no time for Nick Clegg but I do find it interesting that he should have lost this time – and not in 2015.
By this I mean that, logically, anti-Clegg sentiment among more Left-wing Lib Dems or ex-Labour voters might be expected to be strongest towards the end of the coalition period, with memories of, and bitterness about, the deal with Cameron still strong. Despite that, Clegg held his seat in 2015, even when his party was reduced to 8 MPs, and stepped down as party leader, to be replaced by Farron, whose own majority on Thursday was well under 1000. With the Lib Dems gaining a few seats nett this time, you might have thought the moment of peak danger for Clegg had passed. Was it that he was no longer in the limelight? Or was it that Labour ‘organized’ the student vote effectively in Sheffield Hallam as in other university towns?
Hallam has always had a strong labour support base. In 2015 clegg only beat labour by 4% it is also an area with a high student population ( according to the new statesman one of the highest in the country) with the Abbott shagger offering free handouts to students , its only natural they will vote for him. Labour will do likewise in 2022. The tories could offset that student vote by reducing uni fees to 3k.
And that slimy toad, Salmond !
Wish I’d stayed up for that. When I saw the exit polls I didn’t have the stomach to sit through it so went to bed.
Roland,
I doubt if even that will wipe that repulsive smug grin off his face !
And that pompous bore Angus Robertson.
Bring on the next Scottish referendum !!! Has Krankie resigned yet ?
Bring on the next Scottish referendum !!! Has Krankie resigned yet ?
Good point. How come they`re asking re Mays resigning, when she`s not presided over a crash in her results as has Sturgeon?
BBC bias as ever. Questions the rest of us aren`t asking anyway. Get the BBC gone.
Anybody else still feel that May was out to ensure the UK remains in the EU. Me, I still believe that, now we will hear claims from the bBC that more people voted against the tories than for, that we should be given a new vote on the EU, of course May be forced out and the new PM will say he will give the people the vote. Naturally the bBC will go overboard on the merits of remaining in the EU..
Anybody else still feel that May was out to ensure the UK remains in the EU. Me, I still believe that, now we will hear claims from the bBC that more people voted against the tories than for, that we should be given a new vote on the EU, of course May be forced out and the new PM will say he will give the people the vote. Naturally the bBC will go overboard on the merits of remaining in the EU..
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Stew ,
What ?
Stew,
What ?
Pounce,
To my horror, I fear that you may we be right. If we stay in the EU then we are well and truly doomed. Private Grant Fraser.
Pounce, a lot on here do so. I am in the unsure group. The BBC are getting quite cheery and think it’s a prospect.
Her Majesty has already invited Mrs May to form a government. Once the adrenaline of Labour ‘gains’ wears off, (I suspect a lot of younger voters may not understand what is going on and actually think Labour has won in some way) the full force of the snowflakes’ rage at having a Corbyn victory plucked from them will now be directed towards the shaky Tory/DUP alliance. Expect calls for a second Brexit referendum, another General Election etc ad nauseum.
Cranmer,
Good points, but to clean the stables, Treezer must resign today .
I think this election has resulted in a good win for Brexit for a Hard Brexit. Why?
1. It does not give wiggle room to Theresa May for a soft Brexit.
2. It keeps the Conservatives in tight formation. They cant afford to rock the boat. They don’t want another election at the moment
3. It is unlikely the Conservatives want May to lead into the election. So May does not have to worry about that too. She can go for a Hard Brexit, without worrying about her popularity within and without parliament.
4. May will resign soon after the Brexit deal is done in two years, leaving the next Conservative leader as a sitting PM, and a clear run into the election.
5. Corbyn is going to stay on as leader- a really good result for the Conservatives. He will be an old face by the next election, and a new sitting Conservative PM will finish him off.
All in all, an excellent result for the Conservatives.
“Corbyn is going to stay on as leader- a really good result for the Conservatives. He will be an old face by the next election, and a new sitting Conservative PM will finish him off.”
Agree with that. He’s still new and shiny. Won’t last – too vacuous and, on some issues, probably downright evil.
Do agree with this NCBBC
If the Conservative Party still win after being so poor, then it`s not all bad.
Will enjoy the chatterboxes of the Progressive Cause now telling us why they all loved Corbyn and were always behind him.
Still dead in the water-with plenty dirt yet to come out on the Toytown Trots.
An end to the Progressive stitch up. True Blue wins, or else a Red Islamic nightmare, as if Chavez worked out of Mosul.
The DUP will keep May honest, expect lots of grants for Belfast potholes next.
And a rewrite of McGuinness, The Hague for Gerry Adams. And one hard Brexit at that border too, to cause the EU to wail fierce.
Not an ideal result, but we are Britain and make the experts twist in their own fetid wind. May can now try and be a Conservative, or let John Redwood be Chancellor.
No longer muddle. Get the BBC onto subscription not prescription.
As ever, the political class have co-opted all we did and are refeeding their pap back to us.
And the BBC need now to be taken on, or else we`ll not have a country in five years.
Alicia: As ever, the political class have co-opted all we did and are refeeding their pap back to us.
Brilliant.
Not so sure about the hard Brexit being more likely now or it having been an excellent result. Treezer is really going to have to suck up to the DUP. I’ve been in a port-induced stupor or sleeping since about 4am yesterday having stayed up hoping against hope what I was seeing wasn’t happening and would soon stop. I don’t like whisky and I don’t own a revolver so I couldn’t put myself out of my misery.
Because I haven’t looked in here at all I don’t know if anyone has previously posted the following, so if so I apologise in advance –
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/815141/Election-2017-DUP-Theresa-May-Arlene-Foster-Brexit-coalition
If the Tories want to advance Brexit they now need to put a case to our yoof as to what the EU costs us and them, yoof, specifically. They need to point out that 4.5 million EU citizens here ( the EU’s figure not our incorrect one) means 1-2 million fewer housing units for them and more competition for their ‘graduate level’ jobs after graduation (all EU workers here are PhD’s don’t you know!) The Tories need to work out exactly how many EU workers are getting what benefits here, and how much that costs, and the Tories need to implement EU legislation which already exists but has never been applied here to ensure that any EU worker who comes here without a job does not rely on state benefits and is thrown out after 6 months rather than become a burden. A new NINo system would help here.
We need hard financial evidence to use in either the next GE or second Brexit referendum, for I fear it will be one or the other sooner rather than later.
I think also Peter the environmentally sound “yoof” Need to also be reminded with immigration policies as they are (or even worse if Labour get into power). Just exactly how much of our countryside do they want to be covered in concrete.
Having said that they probably wouldn’t be that bothered anyway since many of them spend most of their spare time in their bedrooms absorbed in their play stations
Or masturbating to online porn!
Undoubtedly, the reasons for the Conservative failure are several, including May’s lack of appeal, a dire campaign, and the BBC’s relentless promotion of Corbyn and their cover-up of his past and present policies. However, the heading of this blog is ‘Silver Lining?’, and I think there is one, namely, the opportunity to adopt a more pragmatic approach to your divorce from the EU. For economic stability and avoiding a disruption in trade (by far the most important issue), in my opinion we need to stay in the Single Market for the time being, this being far more crucial than focusing on the less important free movement of peoples and our financial divorce settlement. As Richard North and Pete North have relentlessly explained in their respective blogs, any consideration of trading other than within the Single Market is folly of the highest order. Later on, we can start to develop our trading and political position, but at the moment time is against us. So, on reflection, the defenestration of Theresa May, with her insistence that we leave the Single Market, may be the best outcome.
Anybody able to get that question of how long the Euro will cripple the continent for? Sense it`ll come faster that anybody is daring to say. And , as yet, no Ted Malloch from Trump.
Enough re the EU, it`s floding itself away, et we still get Gina Miller FFS.
Who voted for HER?
Shit-Lucas has her seat.
Their mouthpiece seems to think that they should get more seats, but UKIP shouldn`t. Ukip getting half a million MORE votes than the Greens.
And the DUP-with twelve seats somehow-aren`t entitled to prop up May. Oh-and the losing , second place, also-ran Labor Partay should now be the Government!
Good place this Lefty LaLa Land isn`t it? And they have their own Radio and telly Gaga to peddle their fantasies.
Back to work, the Left ought to try it sometime.
The BBC just chewing lefty cowpats from now until I`m off shift.
Miller & Lucas.
Both have the ‘gift of the gab’ which they use to deliver endless vile drivel.
“As Richard North and Pete North have relentlessly explained in their respective blogs, any consideration of trading other than within the Single Market is folly of the highest order.”
I’m not sure either North has the qualifications to expound from great technical knowledge.
I prefer this guy, an experienced trade negotiator and particularly as so much of our trade is in services which are not part of single market benefit to us-
http://www.li.com/activities/publications/a-blueprint-for-uk-trade-policy
or Minford
Click to access EFT-New-Analysis-16-02-17.pdf
Click to access What-shall-we-do-if-the-EU-will-not-play-ball-110417.pdf
Good job BBC/MSM spent a lot of time in advance contemplating the actual result.
No they were too busy talking about fantasy scenarios of a Corbyn’s policies being implemented.
Melanie Phillips : DISASTER! NOW MRS MAY MUST GO
“When Theresa May called yesterday’s general election, I wrote here that she had taken a mighty risk. When she announced that she would asset strip the houses of the elderly to make them pay for domiciliary care, I asked here whether she was actually trying to lose the election.
Yesterday she lost it.”
“The reason Labour has done so well is that for once young people turned out to vote. Young people generally don’t bother to vote. They did this time for one reason: they were captivated and energised by Jeremy Corbyn.
No matter that Corbyn’s agenda would destroy the country,
…. they were easy prey for a Pied Piper of fantasy politics.”
http://www.melaniephillips.com/disaster-now-mrs-may-must-go/
Little wonder, then, that Labour wishes to lower the voting age to 16. In my opinion, a voting age of 21 would be preferable, but that’s never going to happen!
Make it 35.
In my opinion, in this age, the vote should only be for
1. Adult subjects of the Crown, who have openly acknowledged their loyalty to the Crown.
2. Have never been convicted of a serious crime.
3. Have never engaged in Sedition or showing any allegiance to any power other then the Crown.
4. Are tax payers for at least 5 years
5. In addition to the above, those who have served in the Crown’s armed forces, and discharged with honour, two votes.
It should never be for criminals, welfare spongers (who will always vote for the party that promises more free goodies), and those who will never ever be loyal to the Christian realm of Her Majesty the Queen, and Sharia supporters, who will vote in a manner to damage or destroy her realm.
Excellent NCBBC.
Same should. go for the Lords, Commons and holders of state office too.
Would like the same for our hacks and media gobbies too, but sense they`d go for Douglas, Peter, Melanie as opposed to Pollyowen etc.
Young people have no memory of living/working when Labour is in power. Blair for instance was not Labour. But Corbyn is – the genuine marxist stuff + a genuine Leftist admiration of Islam. A few years of Stalinist policies, and the young will grow up. If that is, a modern college education has not permanently damaged their brains.
What really worries me is that the BBC has misled the people, particularly the young, of the reality of Islam.
There is no hope for the West unless Islam is reformed – impossible, or it is banished from the West. The last may seem impossible, but is not. It can be done without sacrificing our principles of “Tolerance”.
Hope clever people on the right like Scruton will find their inner Ray Honeyford and force the Conservatives to remould what we`ve been teaching kids by way of education in schools and higher up.
Without knowledge of the IRA, Heaths era and the Six day War, Lewinsky etc; it`s no wonder that the BBC and Shoesmith-Balls get to groom their pliant minds.
After a few years of Stalinist policies it would be impossible to change anything for the better.
A perfect example of how the Elites manipulate our ‘so called’ democratic process. Politicians are just useful idiots. This was all about screwing the Brexit vote.
The election came down to a choice between a Likeable (but dangerous) old duffer (writing off student debt, a deceitful masterstroke) and a Po faced Gargoyle…. Treasonous May called it, then ran the worst election campaign..er..ever…
I live in a Tory safe seat, voting anything other than blue is literally a wasted vote, how is that democratic?…safe seats wtf?
…and how does a complete idiot like Abbot increase her majority?
Amen…God save the wotsit.
Would be disablist not to vote for Abbott given her sudden sickie.
Prosecutions might follow. The Blue Badge Party for all those SUVs next.
More online votes for the mentally-challenged coming next, with plenty transferable votes from Clinton and Al-Baghdadi with just one click.
Isn’t it important to see that SNP don’t seem to have a mandate for independence now ?
Their voteshare 37% (from a previous 50%) of the votes
“Alex Salmond defeated ”
” saw his majority crumble in Gordon, where Tory Colin Clark took the seat with 21,861 votes”
The collapse of the SNP is a very important event. It also shows how treacherously wrong the BBC was to lavish so much coverage on the party over the past year.
GC,
I am singing in the bath ! May even pour myself a large Talisker later. Here in God’s own county, Perthshire, we ditched the bitch, Tasmina and now have Luke Graham, a Tory. Brings back memories of Nicky Fairbairn who supported the hospitality industry here in his own way. Delighted the BBC buggered up again. Has Treezer resigned yet ? Has Krankie resigned yet ? We should be told. If they had any honour..
Yes Grant, a much better result for Scotland. Scotland – it’s like err …… another country?
gax,
Thank you . err… in some ways. Just waiting for wee Nicky to resign , if she has any honour, which she does not !
Nice to hear from somebody who has something really great to celebrate.
Just heard the Great Helmsman in waiting,getting both BBC and ITV to send out the message to a fearful nation.
Corbyn(no beret, no fatigues) seems to think that -with 50 less seats than the Tories-only HE can bind the wounds of the country. And this goes unchallenged.
The guys a deluded loser, but it all seems to be lefty entrails getting knitted into something for the chatterati to chew over.
No-the Tories won, a few DUP deals etc and it`ll be fine.
80% “Brexit means Brexit ” vote, SNP getting clattered by Scottish Tories, Clegg and Salmond /Robertson no more…and , as yet I know UKIP got nothing-dare I assume the Greens did too?
Usual Lefty lies from the BBC-let them pretend that Venezuela-like media takeovers are now OK. Still England, we`ll muddle through and we`re leaving, despite the BBC, political liverspots and Farron.
Inquest can wait a while yet for the hopless Tory campaign. But they won, Corbyns been at the creosote.
Alicia,
I share your optimism. The youth did turn out and did, probably, largely vote for the free stuff promised by Corbyn. However, this is a short attention span generation that is likely to get bored with politics as quickly as it mobilised. A coalition with the DUP, kicking off the Brexit negotiations and some quick legislation regarding boundary changes and it could be very different at the next election. I also hope Abbott and the other embarrassments resist being side-lined and start some good old Labour infighting.
Greens won 1
” 30,139 votes. 52,3%. Congratulations @CarolineLucas “
I think this election has resulted in a good win for Brexit for a Hard Brexit. Why?
1. It does not give wiggle room to Theresa May for a soft Brexit.
2. It keeps the Conservatives in tight formation. They cant afford to rock the boat. They don’t want another election at the moment
3. It is unlikely the Conservatives want May to lead into the election. So May does not have to worry about that too. She can go for a Hard Brexit, without worrying about her popularity within and without parliament.
4. May will resign soon after the Brexit deal is done in two years, leaving the next Conservative leader as a sitting PM, and a clear run into the election.
5. Corbyn is going to stay on as leader- a really good result for the Conservatives. He will be an old face by the next election, and a new sitting Conservative PM will finish him off.
All in all, an excellent result for Brexit.
NCBBC, that is one way to look at it. The problem for any Party with an outright Parliamentary majority of less than five to ten seats, even with ten to twelve, is what happens when the Grim Reaper, severe illness or scandal come calling?
Struggling to look on the bright side this morning, if anyone in the Tory ranks is vulnerable it must be Ken Clarke and he is a strong Remainer
It’s not really possible to run a Government, under sustained pressure from an organised opposition let alone with Brexit negotiations, on a non-existent outright majority.
NCBBC,
Surely better if May resigns now and is replaced with a leaver ? She is soiled goods in every capacity, Home Secretary, PM, Brexit. She has to go and go now.
You seem to forget how many tory MPs voted remain.
The “I voted for remain but am now slavishly following the will of the people” line never really rang true.
Sourbiddy and Grieve have already been doing the rounds pondering the “soft Brexit”. Brexit may well be achieved but it will be a Brexit in name only. Not quite a German province, but not an independent state either.
I was listening to Ursula von der Leyen, the German defence minister a week or so ago. She was relishing the idea that USA and UK were distancing themselves from the EU. We must be able to defend ourselves and create a European army outside NATO. The core will be some Franco-German band of warriors that is supposedly already doing good works around the globe. A Salvation Army with military hardware rather than tambourines. No they will probably want to keep the tambourines.
Could not have happened to a nicer person, Twatism personified.
Clegg i meant, not May, altho i think she is shafting yall, tried hard to lose that election, i cannot figure out why she would want to, but try to lose it she did.
Those young, female momentum groupies must have been very busy indeed online/text and phone pressurising the young voters to vote for their leader!. Their phone bill must be in the millions!
This is a very dangerous time for the UK! A leader who hates everything Jewish! Who hates everything USA! Who hates Christian!
Absolute Power [over the young] – how does the quote go?
We’ve seen this one from June 6th ?
UPDATE: All hostages in #Byker (Newcastle) Job Centre released; bomb disposal van arrived at the scene
https://sptnkne.ws/eAVu #Newcastle
Oh My God
4:30pm R4 Feedback is back
They’ll be a lot of gloating
No blurb up yet ..they are tweeting
“#BBCFeedback returns at 4:30pm today – and we’ll have your verdict on how BBC Radio fared on election night…”
Guest “Spare a thought for the families and friends of the victims and stop asking for graphic eye witness accounts Please !!!”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08spvzq
“John Humphrys interrupted Kier Starmer’s experience as ex-DPP head to say “but your daughter wasn’t murdered in front of you”. ”
“I cannot believe you let someone be that unprofessional&biased conducting an interview against Jeremy Corbyn. #womanshour @BBCR4Feedback”
Problem before election : My was getting too much hassle from REMAIN-Tory MPs, wonder how many lost ?
Now those REMAIN-Tory MPs have the option of still rocking the boat , but that’ll mean Labour ending up in government
BTW I see Nuttall has resigned
after surprisingly coming third in Skegness
That doesn’t mean he’s terrible , just that the Brexit voters decided to stick with the Tory
“Conservative Matt Warman was re-elected with 27,271 votes – up 19.8%.” ..that seems a pro Brexit vote