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Another attack unrelated to terrorism, on London highstreet!
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/18/teen-stabbed-throat-slashed-busy-london-high-street/
Interesting comments section attached to that too lol
On the Beeb’s website this weekend, an article: “Manhood Academy: Turning boys into men”
So far, so good. It is a good thing to encourage boys to mature into responsible masculine men.
But read the article itself, at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-40287582/manhood-academy-turning-boys-into-men
and, oh dear, it is only by the blacks, and presumably only for the blacks:
“At his ‘Manhood Academy,’ in North London, Williams and several other black male mentors take on the paternal and fraternal roles they feel young men are missing”
But what about the white boys maturing into men? Well for them instead there is the prospect of gay porn:
“In defence of ‘chav porn'”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/a347bf9f-138c-4163-862f-4daab329ee37
(not really safe for work).
So if you are black, you can become a man, but if you are white, you must do gay porn, with all the connotations of weakness, failure, and stigma that even the BBC would concede still attaches to people of that persuasion.
Not that I would think anyone on this forum would trust our representatives in Westminster and elsewhare but I particularly wouldn’t trust Hammond or Carney during these Brexit talks. Hammond is a real snake and Carney is so pro eu it is embarrassing – every time I have heard him speak he talks down the pound/economy and the pound almost immediately falls. Of course he also wants to be prime minister of Canada so presumably sees his governorship just as a stepping stone to pm of canada.
I would like to re state that which has been stated above – there was NO confusion over what people were voting for. OUT is OUT, not anything else despite what the bbbc and any of the media or politicians say. Treezer the appeaser has surrounded herself with remainers in the new cabinet. What isn’t reported (doesn’t fit narrative) is that the eu is just about to recalculate the contributions for all nation states… Anyone think the contributions might go down?….No, me neither. I cannot wait for the day when we stop the payments to the eu (38% of it’s unearned income).
I am yet to understand what the actual function of the eu is. As far as I can see evey country in it can do without it….. Especially the United Kingdom.
Fortunately JRM is seeking to chair parliament’s Treasury Select Committee.
http://www.cityam.com/266629/tory-backbencher-jacob-rees-mogg-confirms-his-bid-chair
“It is a key Commons committee in an area where I have specialised for many years, and in a hung Parliament it will have an important role in holding people to account.”
Let us hope.
The EU is not a Common Market, it is a project to create a politically and financially unified continent. It was from day one in 1957 when the Six signed up to “ever closer union”. It certainly was in 1973 when Traitor Heath lied to the British public about how joining meant no loss of sovereignty.
The EU project has always been about the end game of a single European state. That is why we have to leave. We want to trade with EU members, but we do not want to be part of the EU state. That’s all Brexit is about.
I can’t place the article now unfortunately, but the other week I read something that basically said a lot of EU legislation seldom bothers a lot of Euro citizens (apart from immigration I expect) because their own governments ignore much of it. But in the UK, our fanatically pro-EU Civil Service ensures that every stupid rule is enforced to the letter.
Even if we had the most canny set of Leaver negotiators, and properly backed up by a Leaver PM, it will likely be a long drawn out process with impediments being constantly put in their way. And that’s without outside forces like Gina Miller, the BBC, Guardian, Uncle Tom Cobley & all getting in on the act.
I’m sure there will be some downsides to a hard brexit which may last a few years, but we’ve survived the dreaded ‘austerity/Tory cuts’ etc for many years too. And if it means we can eventually get back control of our own destiny it’s easily a price worth paying. ‘There is no alternative’ as a proper politician once said.
Two excellent posts, RiC and imnaly.
We need an investigation into our Civil Service in the UK. Which Party will be brave enough to call it?
We could also slim it down substantially. ‘Dave’ and GO made an early start in 2010 and reduced numbers but some massive reorganisation is called for. That is unlikely to come from Labour as they love the multiplication of State employment. For example, we could let our Pounce loose on the MoD. They are said to be horribly overmanned and more of a drain on the military budget than a help to our armed forces.
Up2,
We should have a code of conduct for all our senior civil servants written into a constitution . Remember there is a government of the day that can be removed but there is also the GOVERNANCE which cannot .
“What the function of thd EU is”
The EU is a stepping stone towards the creation of a United States of Europe. The British fixate on the economic advantages of the single market as if that was an end in iteself for Europeans. You could have free trade without a parliament, a European court, a single currency, an European army, a flag or an anthem.
What matters to Europeans is the “European project”. There is supposed to be a “community of European values” which will eventually lead to the elimination of “national egotisms”. This is why Merkel was so pouty and out of sorts when there was no enthusiasm for quotas to deal with her “refugee problem”. The German media prattled on endlessly about lack of “European solidarity”, loss of “European ideals” and so on. This was a modern form of heresy. The “four pillars” of the EU is system that is designed to make sure that countrues sink deeper and deeper into the integration mire and that eventually a point of no escape is reached.
“The cladding used to insulate Grenfell Tower is banned in Britain, Philip Hammond has said.
The Chancellor said a criminal investigation would examine whether building regulations had been violated when the block underwent an extensive renovation that was concluded last year.”
gax,
I would have expected the relevant government authorities to have checked all this at the time. Could be interesting.
Yes indeed. Could be dodgy dealings, back-handers etc..
Surely, as Prime Minister, Theresa was responsible for checking the building spec’s.
gax,
LOL ! The Lefties will have to find good excuses if something nasty crawls out from the woodwork, ina manner of speaking.
Yes what Coad and now this and this is just the beginning!
Panorama Special?
Did you guys listen to the last season of GF Newman’s ‘The Corrupted’?
A decent contractor would have known this. The building control department would have known this. Someone signed this work off and someone must have given the building its fire certificate. A lot of someones in this.
Makes one think about the real motives for the rioting for a change of government, could it be that there are serious implications and involvement for members of a certaian party and a speedy overturning of the election result would enable any such involvement to stay hidden?
Plus an overwhelming desire to make political capital from this tragedy.
Corbyn not up with the Great Get Together? Ah no, quite the opposite – Joe would be most upset.
Ultimately the causes of this affair are not about national level party politics other than immigration policy . This will come out in due course. Look to the contractors, those at the housing management company that ran the refurbishment tender, their advisers, local building control and the Mayor and GLA responsible for emergency planning and coordination. National government didn’t cause all of this but will have a role in reforming the system.
Yes England
inherent bias has led to a decision by msm to lay organisation failure at the door of hmg and not the council not the mayor and not the fire authority . admittedly hmg has responsibility for overarching building regulations but that is for the inquiry to resolve.
Al Beeb seems hell bent rousing the rable to force another election. A state organisation is undermining the state.
I worked between hospital and Coroner and was involved in a fair bit of major incident planning.
Working with time served, practical people who knew their stuff, whether Council, Police or whatever.
towards the end of my time all the good ones were being phased out and replaced by complete arseholes. That’s just my opinion of course.
Anybody able to tell me why Theresa May is expected to cry and visit the victims in hospital, whereas Sadiq Khan is allowed to hold forth from the steps like a Churchill then?
Anybody would think that the media expect their women to play Florence Nightingale, but let the men do as they like.
Over to you Jenni and Womans Hour.
Back to my tumbleweed hair plaits in the meantime.
Quite so. The white folks are just the caretakers for now.
At the presentation of the India – Pakistan cricket trophies – interpretation for English to Pakistani but not the reverse. Alas we’ll never know what the Pakistani top scorer said but then we don’t matter, do we.
Anyone else notice the strange imagery appearing in the MSM over the last year, in particular images of celebrities with one eye covered, striking a very odd and awkward pose. Today’s accused is John McEnroe on the cover of today’s Sunday Times. We’re being subliminally groomed for something. And it won’t be to our benefit.
There would be none of this if Corbyn had won.
We would get told how much he sympathised with and cared for the victims and how this was a chance for him to show his leadership. If only the greedy tories had cared more about fire safety when they were in, this would never have happened.
All this reminds me of the Reichstag Fire that brought the Nazis into their Nuremburg Phase for the Jews.
Not that the Left would see this.
But we need to know.
You mean like Kensington officials failing to show up for work
Thius putting pressure on Ma ?
Such dirty tricks would not surprise me in the least.
On June 7, 2005 Jeremy Corbyn voted to exempt tower blocks built before 2007 from requiring sprinklers.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/1541/made
Dover,
That is a question which the BBC must put to him !
They will never do so. Too much at stake what with the BBC cheerleading the SJWs and gloating about riots.
It just keeps getting better.
The Mayor looks a worried man .
Taffman,
Maybe he is realising that some of the responsibility will be on him. It’s called being the Mayor – power and responsibility. He gets an easy time from al Beeb.
The fire service is being given an easy time too. Yes hats off to the people who have had to accept the risk and deal with the tower. But that crap about staying put? Classic committee group think. Made stupid assumptions.
This fire has taken the extremist terrorist threat off the agenda again. It’s like a sick ritual. Ignorance, attack, candles, blame.
Subtle, clever? Mayor says the fire is the fault of SUCESSIVE governments so therefore, Labour may NOT be singled out BECAUSE HE KNOWS Labour have lots of dirty washing in this case.
Fedup – I totally agree with you about the business of staying put. If my house was on fire I would get the f**k out as fast as I could and you wouldn’t see my arse for dust.
taffman
He should be happy. His kind have been marching in London, displaying anti Jewish flags in the Al QUDS
hate fest.
taffy,
Khan is a nasty little shit. I hope he is worried. He has plenty to worry about !
Hammond is a Tory apeaser , the wrong person to negotiate Brexit for Great Britain ………
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40318674
As negations proceed Al Beeb will do its damnedest to scupper the nation’s break for Freedom .
Nigel, your time is now – ‘Up and at em’!
I have never believed we will get to leave. The EU is finished if we do and they know it.
Agreed, we are going to end up with soft ‘brexit’ which we all know is no brexit
Diane-abbotts-penis
In 2008 Ireland tried ………
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jun/13/ireland
Note that Allegra Stratton no less is privy to this article.
Well worth a read to show how and why she went on to higher things with the BBC, now Pestons show.
She says that less that 1% of the EU (the Irish) thwarted the 490 million EU citizens who did not vote to reject the Treaty.
That they were the only country able to vote on it seems to have escaped Allegra. You can expect a “why should 17.4 million thwart the EU project?”.
We`re the nasty 3% then is it Allegra?
I will not be able to face my kids on my deathbed if I did not do my bit to liberate Europes citizens from the Commie Caliphate that`s coming.
Dave,
They’ll have watered Brexit down so much is that the only difference will be taking the yellow star off their flag – for which we ll be sent the bill and being told that if we ever want to rejoin we have to take the Deucheuromark.
We brexiters will be so worn down by then that we ll shrug and say – we tried.
As in many of the posts I put here – hope I’m wrong. For me Brexit is only the start of getting our nation back.
Someone put up a good article here on Brexit Central by the Greek ex-Finance bloke.
It states clearly how his country was shafted, how the EU and their native suckups manage to destabilise , wrong foot and get their sordid ways.
Really glad to know that this is freely available to read. Because Austin Mitchell and Gisela Stuart have also backed up the EU/BBC/LibDems methods to scare the plebs. Do have a read, stop worrying.
We`re going in two years, if Clagg isn`t hanging himself, then it`s not a deal.
It`s us or Cologne and its Muslim rapists getting cover from the BBC
How come we no longer hear from Kate Hoey or Gisela Staurt-why only the likes of Clarke, Mandelson and Rudd? We are NOT Holland, Denmark, Ireland or France. This is England-and Douglas Murray is in the best sellers.
Stuff the beeb-have faithi in those who voted last June 23rd.
They`ve gone nowhere-nor are they leaving.
Alicia – Gisela Stuart stepped down at the recent election, more’s the pity.
That would be Yanis Varoufakis, who is that mythical creature – someone from the Left who is prepared to debate the facts, and does so articulately.
His account of being humiliated by the EU nomenklatura should be required reading for the Brexit negotiators.
Start here: https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/
Its those men again ………………………..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-40322039
Countryfile upset at the failure of organic farming to expand as anticipated. To blame? Mainly the supermarkets. It seems that those institutions have no idea what the consumer wants & have cut back on the shelf space allocated to organic. Why oh why don’t they just listen to the BBC & Green Lobby? After all they are the commercial specialists. And if it’s not the supermarkets to blame, then it is the government for not providing more subsidies (perhaps funds are in short supply after all the taxpayer/consumer bribes paid to the green energy industry)
NISA, that’s interesting. The BBC were telling me, earlier this year, that organic was a growing market and had a very successful year in 2016. Fake news? On the BBC?
Surely not?
When they said that organic was a growing market, U2s, the beeb were being literal.
They played an old clip of Craven from 1974 saying “By year 2000 40% of our food will be organic”
(maybe it was 20% and I misheard)
Anyway now it’s only 3%
Organic is rubbish cos you need twice as much land , and if you get a blight you lose the whole crop
I was in Tesco this morning and wanted some bananas – the organic ones were almost twice the price of the ordinary ones. For someone on a small income that can mean the difference between having something and not having it, but I don’t suppose a BBC Deputy Assistant Director Of Diversity Awareness on 150K a year and shopping at Fortnum’s would be able to comprehend that.
Yes lobs – al Beeb people don’t get it because of their generous pay rate but a lot of people walk straight past the organic stuff and go straight to value.let Waitrose worry about organic stuff .
NISA
I gave up on Countryfile File months ago. Too much Fake News.
Too much bloody Tom, climate change, Heap fo me, Grant.
Moslem Mayor permits Hezbollah flag today in Al QUDS march in London, despite numberous requests from Jewish organizations to disallow it
Wow, this sounds like a repeat of the 1930’s when the left ALLEGEDLY rose up and supported the Jews in London against the fascists.
So where were the bold anti fascists today?
Never mind, the Jews manage to bravely organize a counter demonstration themselves.
Shame on the Emir of Londonistan
PS I said, allegedly. Some Jews I knew were booted out of the Communist Party for opposing Moseley – the party had forbidden street demonstrations was the excuse.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/06/18/hezbollah-flags-fly-in-london-as-jewish-protesters-counter-al-quds-day-march/
Soon if not already Israel will be safer than London. If I was Jewish I would not bring up a family here.
Anti Semitism is now part of our lives and in the liberal progressive dominated academia it is respectable if not compulsory although they all it anti Zionism, or some such garbage.
I have had to listen so some of them.
To be fair it’s not for the Muslim London mayor to decide which flags can be flown and which cannot. As I understand it Hezbollah have a terror wing and a political wing, and the political wing is not proscribed and therefore can be legally flown in Britain.
No surprise to see that the UAF were not present today, after all Winston Churchill gave us this warning for the future:
The Fascists of the future will call themselves Anti Fascists.
If there is to be a huge re-housing programme within the next 3 weeks for ex Grenfell residents, odds are that the displaced will be accommodated within the borough in private rental housing or hotels. Now, here’s the thing, shall we see another uprising of the natives when they are asked to pay higher rents, as I can see that they will be expected to be rehoused for nothing (lawyers at the ready), or is the tax payer expected to pick up the bill for those that are on housing benefit and therefore pay zilch anyway.
I asked my Councillor brother, if being outside London, his Council were asked to put up some fire victims would they find the necessary accommodation. He said they would resort to private rented because there was no social housing available – the same as housing Syrian refugees, – and we pick up the tab !
The government has just announced every survivor will be receiving £5500 – £500 in cash and the rest paid into their bank accounts.
Comments in the papers point to outrage amongst people decent enough to have paid for insurance, and whether this sets a precedent that ALL people involved in disastrous fires will receive the same amount in the future.
Thoughtful – it’s the moral hazard argument – I lived in a communal set of flats and was required to pay building insurance . Contents was up to me. The management company chose the insurer and required occupants to pay. Al Beeb probably doesn’t to hear detail like that because it doesn’t fit the helpless survivor heartless government narrative it has built.
I’m trying to work out how it will cover the Day of Rage being promoted for this Wednesday . Burning JDsports after looting again? McDonald’s being turned over? All the usual trimmings ? Then it’s blame time …
Paul Mason has spent the weekend topping up his tan, so he will look utterly buff on the barricades.
Anyone else notice the brown child taking center stage on the uranium glass valuation on the Antiques Road Show? In the background for almost every shot and closeup. The bastards just cannot help themselves!
At the start, I’m sure I heard Ms Bruce refer to Thomas Jefferson as the first US president as well
As we all know the first US President was John Hanson followed by 7 others before Washington was elected !
He was also “black” as well, T. Who’d have thunk it. Question came up in a quiz night a few years ago, led to a few outbreaks of fisticuffs, it being one of those sorts of pub. 🙂
Toobi,
Maybe you are thinking of the later Senator John Hanson who was black. The whole question of who was the first President of the USA is hotly debated, even today. Rather depends on how you define USA.
That’s why black is in quotes Grant and the reasons for the fisticuffs. This is what the quizmaster was going off
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1771850/posts
The titles, prior to Washington were President of the United States in Congress Assembled, I think.
Toobi,
Yes, I noticed it. I had always thought the Antiques Roadshow was immune, but obviously not. I expect it to go downhill from here.
We had two more, near the end Grant. a boy and a girl?. No sign of any of them being with parents of similar hue though. A shot to the girl saying, “wow, £2000 “when the book valuation was announced didn’t look too authentic and spontaneous on the girl’s part either, a bit self-conscious.
Toobi,
The number of “ethnics” bringing antiques seems pretty minimal and I do not remember a single muslim. I am sure the BBC will have a way of rectifying that in future.
Same with the Chelsea Flower Show, the beeb must absolutley hate it!
Hate the CFS Toobi? Don’t you believe it. Around 36 hours or more of cheapo TV to pad out the schedules for a week? Couple of faces, celebs, pretty flowers, awfly clever designs. Super. And money for old rope – just what helps to make those staggering salaries all the more affordable, and enjoyable of course. Cheers!
Agree on all you say, Beltane, but the CFS, on the whole, seems to be a hideously white, diversity free zone. just like progams used to be before we were enriched.
Grant – I’m sure one will be along shortly with an autographed koran to be valued!
Could Mo (pbuh) write, Lobbie?
I assume so – he was the perfect man, after all …….
If he could ride a flying horse, writing should have been an absolute doddle.
Just not both at the same time though, Lobbie, else “please excuse the shakey writing”.
Toobi – Or should that be Sheikhy Writing?
I’ll get me coat …..
Boom, boom! 🙂
Grant,
This guy could be the next big thing in antique programmes . Danny Sebastian (and don’t you dare……)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01znkpb/p020c202
Ticks the boxes, black/wears a bowler/looks like a gypsy/and reckons he can sell sand to the Arabs.
He isnt a political ‘toby”, he is a nice guy, been a trader for years, bought up north sold down south, and did it for years before tv picked him up, now its buy in european flea markts, sell in London.
That shabby chic fad was a good earner for traders like him.
The GLA Budget, page 31, looks rather interesting for 2017/18 and may be of interest to B-BBC readers. You can view and download a copy here: https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/governance-and-spending/spending-money-wisely/mayors-budget#acc-i-42656
BBC Parliament .. New Faultlines in Europe … John Bruton. 8:30pm UK. Can someone please explain if Brexit is a divorce, then who are the adults and who are the children. Can they first define the marriage and how it went.
Divorces are emotional events between people and not Nations.
People can move and remarry, and sometimes it’s better if they divorce because one of the partners (hard to work out as noone will expalin) might be abusive and demand too much or one might be cheating. Is it a same sex marriage or a polygamy marriage when compared to the EU, is there one bread winner or several?
Who does the ironing and school runs?
Anybody seen the bBC report this story of a US Aid worker run across a battle zone in Iraq in which to rescue a child. NO! I wonder why?
Some American bloke on bbc WS:-
‘The US should not be fighting in Mosul, they should be rescuing the 150,000 civilians.”
bbc, “But they are surrounded by IS and several militia groups.”
American bloke replies, “Yes, it would be quite impossible.”
I switched off this stunning piece of journalistic bollox.
Thu BBC2 has invited Katie Hopkins to do a whole show about immigration and Ian Hislop will do a small guest part
nah of course it’s the other way around SJW luvvie Hislop gets to present a show saying immigration is great
Who Should We Let In? Ian Hislop on the First Great Immigration Row
@EnglandExpects noticed the prepublicity on R4 Today
Now I see pg16 of Radio Times has a double page spread
Then this an article in the Times
– BBC History magazine etc.
Hislop is , apparently, going to use the ‘moral panic’ argument lefties use to support their view of the world. Victorians concerned about chinamen, Jews , others, turning up in their hundreds to certain bits of London in the 18th c. Problem is that today it’s not 100s 1000s 10000s 10000s or even the million. It’s so many we don’t know how many there are. Yes they all want to work, improve their family’s future , contribute, enrich our culture , bring new ideas. But…. no bugger ever asked us … the locals … whether we wanted to be a minority English speaker or a minority Christian in a sea of multicultural ‘give me’.
The BBC’s evasion of the realities of mass immigration is one of the top reasons why it should be defunded. It is hard to think of a more important question facing the UK than mass migration and the BBC, through incompetence, bias and a sinister political agenda, has failed to address it properly.
No amount of emoting about people who ‘only want a better life’, or recounting of the contributions of Huguenots long ago or Jewish refugees in the late 19th century, changes the fact that immigration since 1948 and in particular since 1997 has been on an unprecedented scale – and without any popular mandate.
Nett migration figures that would have been controversial in the Enoch Powell era (c. 1968) – say 50,000 in a year – would now be seen as very low and the result of government restrictions ‘likely to damage business’. The UK cannot continue to have an official nett inflow of between 0.25 and 0.33 of a million immigrants without serious repercussions for the NHS, private housing, rented accommodation, schools, roads, sewers, prisons, the police, interpreting costs, legal fees, etc. Remember that these official figures almost certainly significantly understate the numbers coming in.
The suggestions about demolishing tower blocks, in the light of the Grenfell Tower tragedy, could only be made by people in denial about reality. A better idea would be to have a full-time fire guard service in all high-rise blocks: maybe only one person, tasked with patrolling and intervening quickly if a fire breaks out, and able to remove or notify fire hazards such as dumped rubbish on a day to day basis. The last thing we need is to reduce the housing stock and create overcrowding elsewhere, when we should make better use of what is already in place, imperfect though it may be.
Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi
Good post .
Too many people & not enough houses. We are full up .
Answer = stop people coming in. The simple mathematics that All Beeb has not addressed.
Scott, shouting ‘Racist’ does not work anymore.
Mustapha we have a, well they call it the posh word ‘Concierge’ come on duty between 4pm and midnight. This would have been unhelpful at Grenfell as they would have left by the time the fire started. As for what they actually do? Often on their mobile or with headphones in. Patrols are required and I believe necessary to stop the teens smoking or going to the toilet in the fire stairs, or others sneaking in to sleep overnight. It’s a service provided by a private company and some of the men are useless while others I think a bit more pro active. Their ability to act is limited by PC and if they attempted to get tough can you imagine how they would be treated.
Recently one of the “Concierges” left spilled soft drink on the lift floor all night. The cleaner confirmed to me in the morning that she found it. This is the kind of behaviour that permeates these buildings. Of course there are a few who are nice and respectful but the majority are disgusting. No respect for themselves, the building or the country and all the hard working tax payers who are helping them to live.
Also CCTV technology is now affordable and easy to move around. Cameras are in both our lifts but I don’t believe they are used. When I suggested at my housing estate office the use of cameras to catch people they looked at me like I was a fool. Even if they catch people there is nothing they can do because the laws are outdated and need a massive change but that would be seen as an attack on human rights. Our society is completely stuffed. In my first room in London the family above me were pure hell. Screaming at 3am, 2pm, whenever. The kids threatened to throw me over the passage way onto the concrete below. Constant police and council visits were continually happening but it took 12 months to finally get them out. This is the reality. The law is on their side not ours.
Hislop probably ignores the various terrorist outrages perpetrated by Russian Jewish anarchists and French and Latvian revolutionaries. The Greenwich Observatory Bomb incident in 1894, for example, was carried out by a French anarchist an member of the Autonomie club – a meeting place for anarchists and revolutionaries from all over Europe tolerated by the authorities. The analogue of the mosque for muslim terrorists of our time. This incident was used by Conrad in his novel “The Secret Agent”. The bomber in the novel was a stooge who had the mental age of a small child.
This shows how facile the media myth of lone wolf terrorism is. The mentally unstable and vulnerable people of low intelligence can be easily manipulated by the real terrorists Mirroring today’s situation, numerous terrorist atrocities and assassinations had been carried out in Europe, the golden age of assassination, but the British authorities were complacent and did nothing to prevent terrorists making London a safe haven where they could plan their activities. The Siege of Sidney Street was another incident made famous by the involvement of Winston Churchill. The pathe news film of the day shows that the population of the East End was “hideously white” in 1911. Latvian refugees were to blame.
What next from the bBC, that paedophiles are victims. No wait
Anyone recall the gas explosions in old tower blocks which, because of design, collapsed like decks of cards? Don’t remember calls to topple governments and riots back then.
Same thing – inadequate precautions, ‘unfortunate’ circumstances and hindsight unavailable
The
bBCsThe Syrians dictators version on why the US just shot down one of its jets.US coalition downs Syrian army plane in Raqqa
The US-led coalition in Syria has shot down a Syrian military jet in Raqqa province. The Syrian army said its warplane was on a mission against the Islamic State (IS) group when it came under fire on Sunday, according to state television. It said the incident would have “dangerous repercussions” on efforts to fight terrorism.
Ah the bBC states that the Yanks shot down a Syrian Su22 whilst it was carrying out Anti ISIS duties inside Syria.
The bBC then reports:
The US said it acted in self-defence after the Syrian regime dropped bombs near US-backed fighters.
“In accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defence of Coalition-partnered forces [the plane] was immediately shot down,” said the US military in a statement.
Actually that’s not quite true is it bBC. Here is how the US reported this incident around 5 hours ago:
I wonder why the bBC didn’t mention how the Syrians had actually attacked the Kurds first. Back to how the bBC reports how the Syrians are fighting ISIS. Funny enough the Arab media is currently reporting how the US attacked the Syrians in which to defend an ISIS convoy. It appears that the bBC feels likewise.
The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic dictators, Islamic terrorism where non-Muslims can only be reported as evil and Muslims as only victims.
Just push play. Repeat.
She never liked Helmut Kohl. Heaven knows what she’d say of Merkel?
“They’re A Weak Lot In Europe”
They’re A Weak Lot In the Tory Party .
Where has Essexman gone?
I rather like the term, ‘newZ’. Better than keep writing, fake news but no good as spoken.
Maybe the term, ‘newazi’ might do.?
BBC NEWAZI.
Goebbels’ News. ‘GoNews’
Has anything come of that story – Somali man with bags packed, leaving the tower, front door left open and shouts to witness to call Fire Service?
gaxvil
If that’s true the media will suppress it in case of a backlash.
https://youtu.be/_jk7EcPBCFo?t=153
“Brexit negotiations begin: David Davis targets ‘historic’ deal”
“Strong warning
“The BBC has been told by European Union sources that the talks will follow the EU’s preferred pattern of exit negotiations first, with the future relations between the two sides – including the free trade deal the UK is seeking – at a later date.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40321271?ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=twitter
Why should we follow the EU’ s preferred pattern of exit negotiations first. Has any other nation left the EU .
We should be dictating the terms because we are ‘holding the best hand’.
Expect more scare tactics from the MSM and Al Beeb.
Much is being made by the ‘community’ of no help or no authority to turn to in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy. Well, considering these events don’t occur on a weekly or monthly basis, then its inconceivable that we have a Disaster Team on standby waiting for a fire/earthquake to take place. When we had the devastating floods a couple of years back, people were made homeless and found themselves in a similar situation – albeit there were no deaths in great numbers, but I cannot remember the ‘communities’ going on the rampage; maybe it was because they were all white and lived in country regions. I bet 5 grand would have helped a lot to them though at the time.
I suppose every Council will now create a Disaster Team to avoid any future backlashes, something in the vein of the fire staff at airports – rarely needed but always on standby. So we’d better prepare for council tax rises.
Imagine we are back in the days of the Spanish Conquistadors. They have made their presence known in South America, they have war horses, they have steel armour and they have guns that kill from afar.
Word of their awful capabilities spreads far and wide. Small exploration parties of Spaniards find that the surrounding native communities appear to be friendly, they are offered the best food and accomodation that these villagers can provide. They are treated like gods.
Then one day disaster strikes. The best hut in the village accidently catches fire, a spark from the feast fires must have lodged on the roof and burnt slowly, suddenly being fanned into flames by a gust of wind. All the Spaniards perish. What is the village to do? This is the last thing that they wanted to happen, the main body of the conquistadors will surely extract a terrible revenge! A party of the villagers solemly returns the burnt remains of the explorers to the main camp along with all the riches that the village has. Nothing is spared. the Spanish are the masters now. Resistance is futile. The submission is total.
NEWS COMING IN, A vehicle has mowed down some pedestrians in London, all emergency services are attending – several people injured. Here we go again.
Some early reports saying driver is white and targeted people leaving a mosque. If this turns out to be a revenge attack against muslims, expect media to go into overdrive. Grenfell Tower will be forgotten in seconds.
https://twitter.com/peddoc63/status/876596156998066176
Note the contrast between this and the BBC’s recently reported events;
Previously they had never reported on the colour of the suspect.
A “witness” says he “had a tattoo on his back, he was not drunk, he was not ill” (so full professional diagnosis and mental assessment there!).
Also “witness” said he was “motivated by islamophobia” so they have his motive despite another witness stating “he did not say anything”.
Oh and BBC just this minute reporting the suspect as a “large WHITE man”.
Diabolical sh1t stirring by the BBBC!
UK: White van drives into crowd leaving mosque in London
And the CBB news team are at the scene where they will have the whole situation examined, concluded and decided in a short while but will continue to repeat it all over and over and over. I think it’s time that M15 prevented the crews from getting near. All they manage to do is intensify an already touchy situation.
It seems the Islamic council has come out declaring that islamaphobia has been on the rise. Oh that seems strange, I wonder why. When is the government going to finally admit that things are deteriorating rapidly and that enough is enough. I’m not familiar with the circumstances but I don’t care. They can run us down so why shouldn’t we run them down. They don’t like it and I bet a big bitter revenge will come. Nazizim is banned and it’s time Islam was banned in the UK too. Let the lot of them pack their bags and leave.
One man arrested ? Drunk driver
BBC reports witness stating he “was not drunk he was not ill”
Not sure what qualifies the witness to make that instant diagnosis.
It looks like another Thomas Mair type at the moment. These people I despise.
But the situation has come about because of the imposition of multi-cultural policies imposed by idiot zealots in the establishment.
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind. I think the war has just started.
The DM is now reporting this:
“‘An elderly man who just came from the mosque, he just fainted and people were picking him up when the van he just sped up and ran them over when the guy was one the floor.”
The DM is now reporting this:
“‘An elderly man who just came from the mosque, he just fainted and people were picking him up when the van he just sped up and ran them over when the guy was one the floor.”
The DM is now reporting this:
“‘An elderly man who just came from the mosque, he just fainted and people were picking him up when the van he just sped up and ran them over when the guy was one the floor.”
The DM is now reporting this:
“‘An elderly man who just came from the mosque, he just fainted and people were picking him up when the van he just sped up and ran them over when the guy was one the floor.”
Yes, as I mentioned above this is sure to bring about another major revenge attack in London and possibly other parts of the country very quickly.
BBC News channel at 6:15am interviewing some bloke form the British Muslim Council saying this is a “right wing terror attack”.
Now this could just be a case of texting whilst driving, and therefore death by dangerous driving, but how would the big white tattooed Brexit voting van driver get a fair trial now?
Interesting how this gets reported compare to Islamic attacks. When we have our regular Islamic attacks everyone in front of the TV camera will say “this is an attack on all of us”. But in this case it is “an attack on Muslims”.
Same shit different politics.
Presumably the BBC has closed all of its HYS sections? Can’t allow people to say what they think can we. Let us see if there is a contrast in reaction to recent attacks where we were told to remain calm etc etc. Apparently Mayor Khan thinks this is all part of living in a modern large city. Wonder if he will contradict himself now.
I agree Steve. I anticipate that the BBC will soon be reporting “anger” rather than “love” and reporting on demands for action to protect our oppressed communities.
If I just heard the BBC News correctly they just said “the PM will later say her thoughts and condolences are with the victims and their families”.
Have all these violent events become so predicable that the news predicts the exact words the PM will say.
In all fairness i could have predicted that, well who couldnt have, i fear for Royal Ascot, for days i have had a feeling of foreboding about it.
I dont seem to recall Muslim condemnation of the recent attacks on white people by perpetrators of christianophobia
“Mohammed Shafiq of the Ramadhan Foundation, a Muslim organisation which speaks out against extremism, said: “I utterly condemn the senseless and evil van attack against Muslim worshippers outside the Finsbury Park Mosque in London.”
The muslim lobby is going to milk the “incident” for all it’s worth. The MCB always claims that Muslims are double victims of terrorism. They are caught up pro rata in the actual attack performed by terrorists who have nothing to do with islam and then by the backlash against muslims who have nothing to do with terrorism
The burning injustice of it all.
Also noted the BBC news reporting that it took the emergency services “over an hour” to arrive. This is despite the interview I heard where a witness was clearly thanking them for artiving quickly!
Also noted the BBC news reporting that it took the emergency services “over an hour” to arrive. This is despite the interview I heard where a witness was clearly thanking them for arriving quickly!
Guess we all know whats coming next from the BBC. At last something our state funded agent provocateur can finally get their teeth into!
Here in Western Europe over the last couple of years we have suffered multiple attacks from followers of the Religion of Peace and yet the the only real reaction has been hashtags and teddies. And the odd demo disrupted by the Hate not Hope Police supported by the pretend ones we have to pay for.
How can the BBC continue to make us feel guilty about our own existence if that is the best we can do!
Even with the recent Grenfell Tower Fire. Despite the best work of the left cheerled by the BBC – I do believe no-one actually witnessed either Theresa May, Tommy Robinson or Nigel Farage pouring accelerant through Peoples letter boxes, Though I am sure BBC news team is probably working on this theory even as I say it.
The best they can do is accuse Theresa May of not being smoochy enough with the lefties and residents and push the line that all these people were deliberate victims of evil capitalism – despite it being an accident.
And now we finally have something that the BBC can use to really get the rabble going and prove how “islamaphobic ” we all are. Fortunately (for them) it looks like someone has been killed and quite a few injured so I expect with Wednesdays “Day of Rage” coming up Lord Hall will have more than enough opportunity – keep it real and be down in da ghetto with dem Antifa kids and fill a few molotovs so his homeboys and girls will have plenty to film on Wednesday.
“Repeat again, Abdul, what he was saying…”
The BBC return to a style choice – rather in abayance since Jo Cox – of being more than keen to get certain lines of news narrative out there.
Where’s Kay Burley on live interview witness duty when clearly needed?
Jeremy Bowen, in true BBC style, has engaged in a mass RT campaign of complimentary tweets about Jeremy Bowen:
https://twitter.com/liamawebster/status/876390068486889472
Maybe the voting age needs to be raised to 25?
Jeremy Bowen, in true BBC style, has engaged in a mass RT campaign of complimentary tweets about Jeremy Bowen:
https://twitter.com/liamawebster/status/876390068486889472
Maybe the voting age needs to be raised to 25?
Oops, duplication. Jez will approve. Mass spamming.
“…this was a white man…”
BBC man Graham Satchell at Finsbury Park appears uncharacteristically unrestrained by prevailing NUJ reporting guidelines
Some might suggest this is no bad thing – so long as our Graham and his colleagues are prepared to continue to apply his new and bold interpretation evenly in all circumstances
Quoting from NUJ Guidelines
“Its members have a responsibility to stop racism being expressed in the media.”
Only include a person’s race if relevant. Check that you have it right. Would you mention race if the person was white?…
Do not assume a cultural background from a person’s name – check with them or their community.
Strive for diversity and balance in reporting
Exercise care, balance and proportionality when covering race relations issues.”
https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/updated-nuj-race-reporting-guidelines-and-efj-manifesto/
And “When quoting politicians or public figures, verify if their statements on immigration are factual.”
(Except when its a LibMobber saying outrageously positive stuff)
So, finally it’s happened. Some numbnuts has decided to run down Muslims. This is exactly the sort of thing I was dreading, but felt would inevitably happen.
When the boot is on the other foot I criticise Muslims for not unequivocally condemning it so it would be hypocritical to do otherwise here and attempt to make excuses. There are none. Whatever the provocation you do not run into a random group of people and attempt to kill them.
Besides anything else, it is utterly counterproductive. It gives the authorities an excuse to clamp down on those who see the dangers in the importation of an alien culture, and it will be done in a way and to an extent they would not have dared to do to Muslims.
It will also be used an excuse to undermine Brexit. They probably have a file on this arsehole already showing membership of UKIP, and the BBC will be in the forefront of it all.
Agreed. One may however wonder if the BBC may engage Di protocols on Mishal lest she start ticking columns on her death chart.
I suspect you are correct in your analysis and it is important to condemn this type of behaviour. But it may not be totally counterproductive in the long term. Some of the indigenous population will note the sharp contrast between the visceral Establishment response to Islamic terrorism (“let’s all light candles and hold hands”) and whatever happens as a result of this, regardless of the facts or motivation of the individual (if, indeed, there was one). From such observations, political awareness arises, which can develop and become an irresistible force with time. Imagine the position of someone like Lech Walesa and Polish trade unionists in the 1970s and 1980s – the notion that they would prevail and that the communist system would eventually collapse would have seemed absurd.
RD,
Spot on . The authorities will use this to clamp down even further on any form of dissent from the official policy . Freedom of speech will be further curtailed. I expect that this site is monitored already so be careful what you post or you may well be made an example of.
Yep @Roland I also condemn (like everyone else here I guess)
Who ever kills people like this does not speak for me.
Revenge violence is wrong.
In the UK the only time civilians can use violence is in a self defence way in an ongoing incident to prevent greater violence..and then as soon as the attacker is neutralised violence should stop.
I do think politicians media like BBC etc. do have to take certain care with language both inflammatory , but also with belittling people and playing down their concerns cos that might provoke mentally ill people.
On Twitter the only calls for violence I spot are from misguided LibMob SJW types against non-LibMob people, government and private companies.
I’ve never seen language that incites on this forum or NonLib mob radio shows.
When one nutcase of whatever religion/race makes a one off attack I do not consider it part of terrorism.
All crime should be reported with correct context and perspective. One thing is that when it isn’t, that can motivate nutcases.
And I suspect this could be what happened here that language after recent Islamic attacks the message coming across from politicians/media was not reassuring and so could have partially motivated today’s nutter.
Well said, Roland. My sentiments exactly.
BBc Breakfast the sofa drones have super serious faces on. Must be the start of BREXIT negotiations……..Meanwhile North West they somehow manage to have Finsbury Park as the lead story……
lets see how much money muslimes raise for one of their own and compare that with the total raised for the bridge attack
Vigils, pop concerts, collections, “they will not divide us”, Archie of Canterbury visits the mosque [ – delete quickly!: Sorry, I forgot, the moslems would see that as defiling their mosque wouldn’t they?]
Mehdi Hasan on twitter – “In the past 24 hours, Muslims in U.S. & U.K. have been murdered outside of mosques. When will we admit anti-Muslim hatred is out of control?” 18Jun17 9pm
Lives have been lost, Muslims have been murdered – it was 2 in twenty four hours, but Mehdi does not use numbers as that would mean you can compare it with say a terrorist attack at Manchester(22dead 119injured) or an attack by Muslims on two skyscrapers (2,996dead 6000injured) – is that incontrol and just part of normal everyday, just continue, you can’t do anything life?
“U.S. & U.K.” – Mehdi Hasan forgets to include Pakistan and other countries where Muslim on Muslim
happens on a daily basis. See thereligionofpeace.com for aggregation of reported attacks.
The Muslims possibly had nothing to do with these events, but when he uses the term – “anti-Muslim hatred is out of control” what does he mean, can he define what in control hatred would be? What does he want?
Does he mean Islamaphobia or Anit-Muslim which sounds like Anti-Semitism?
Should we start to have “Bad Islamaphobia” or “Good Islamaphobia” or “Moderate Islamaphobia”?
Now the word “Islamaphobia” online gets defined as “dislike of or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.” which does not sound so terrifying. Almost like not liking the Conservative or Labour parties and not agreeing with their principles – “dislike” “political force”.
I previously looked at a recent article by Mehdi Hasan titled as follows:
“The Numbers Don’t Lie: White Far-Right Terrorists Pose a Clear Danger to Us All”
– theintercept.com 17.05.31
This story shows how to make data not seem as bad by grouping and looking for a story that fits your point of view. Please look at the data and decide yourself. I suggest you look at it and think of what trend you would determine, then read Mehdi Hasan interpretation.
http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf#page=11
– see chart page 6 “Number of Violent Extremist-linked Incidents and Resulting Fatalities in the United States”
106 vs 119 killings
During the September 11 attacks in 2001, 2,996 people were killed and more than 6,000 others wounded, which is missing from the report as it is data after 9/11.
119 / 320million people vs 106 / 5 million people
even when they screw with the stats the fekin obvious remains the fekin obvious
BBC describing the Finsbury park attack as “possible terrorism”. I have never heard the BBC ever use this phrase before even when the attack was glaringly obviously terrorism.
But then the perpetrator is probably white and we all know they are second class citizens.
Do you think the BBC will refer to this man as a militant? Any Chance? I mean they don’t like using the the word ‘terrorist’ because it might lead to hate. Let’s see how consistent they are.
So they’ve got what they wanted. A real attack on Muslims instead of a piece of bacon being left near a mosque or a self reported ‘hate crime’. We now have moral equivalence and Brendan Cox can be given yet more airtime to talk of organised and well financed right wing groups. We’ve even seen the Muslim Council of a Britain appear so quickly, whereas nothing much is heard from them when Muslims attack us. The Council want to see strict but unspecified action against us, including, I think, those of us who post on here and think as we do.
Successive governments are to blame for this. They have allowed mass Muslim immigration without seeking the permission of the British people.The people have been failed, communities ( real ones!) driven out of our cities, men women and children blown up and stabbed by Muslims. In return we are given mealy mouthed responses about unity and love. If governments fail their people then people will eventually take direct action. After so much forbearance being shown, a backlash has been inevitable. Those of us who, with great regret ,eventually see a violent solution to the effects of the invasion of our country as inevitable in the face of government failure, are not surprised . Appeasement by Government has failed.
EE,
Spot on !
They have indeed at last got what they wanted. Sighs of relief all round in certain rooms.
However, screwing down the lid on a pressure cooker will see venting first at the weakest point, but worse may be to come, especially if the reaction is more sticking plasters.
The unfortunate victim will doubtless be an innocent paragon, and likely appalled at the near inevitable #justice4 slogans sprayed at the next revenge site. All lovingly captured in HD by a gaggle of mobiles and an alerted TV crew.
Rubbing the noses of ‘the right’ in diversity is really working out well, isn’t it, Tony?
Import third world hellhole ingredients into the country and you seem to end up with more third world hell holes.
Who could have imagined?
This is God’s gift to muslims and fellow travellers, including the BBC and the State. Expect further repression by the State, more restrictions on freedom of speech and action. The erosion of freedom and democracy will accelerate. The muslims are winning their Jihad with the connivance of dhimmis like the BBC.
And hot summer evenings !
Currys must be increasing their insurance and ordering hundreds of plywood panels as we speak.
BBC Website reports that police say “This is an attack on London “.
Grant,
“Mental health issues”?
Just a thought.
I wonder how many people in the UK are aware that 61 people have tragically perished in forest fires in Portugal over the weekend.
Very little coverage by the BBC . Probably because they cant blame Tory cuts, brexit, right wing supremacist’s etc.
I wonder where he got the idea of driving a van into a crowd of people ?
What’s betting every Imam in creation will now step forward for their moment in front of the mic, but go into hiding when other faiths are killed by Musllims.
The community will bind together, love will break out, this will not affect us we will carry on as normal.
BUT
The Government will hit the panic button and move fast against anyone who is critical of that prophet bloke.
Does this mean that Sharia May will have to visit Finsbury Park mosque and be pictured hugging muzzies for the BBC?
I’m almost certain that Jezza and his gang will be sniffing around for a photo call.
Wronged,
As long as she doesn’t forget her veil.