Corbyn and Co are out for the oppressed workers who have zero hours contracts…will that include actors? Should the BBC et al pay them all retainers and pensions and holiday pay or will actors continue to ‘rest’ between jobs?…perhaps they could work for Uber as they ‘rest’.
All work is oppression to the self-entitled.
Yes, workers are forced into the disgusting condition of being nothing better than subjugated to Wage Slavery. It shouldn’t be allowed, all people should be given vast amounts of money by the State and not be forced into any kind of gainful employment. They really do live in cloud cuckoo land.
Isn’t that what the Limp Dems want to do?
Some screechy labour mp had free reign on al Beeb this morning saying about how she wouldn’t use uber for moral reasons. But I bet she has no problems using taxis at taxpayers expense- MPs are busy you understand – fir instance Diane abbot . The albeeboid – Justin or the professional Mancunian – who didn’t disclose whether they are self employed or employed by al Beeb – didn’t ask her how she gets about… Oyster card ? Bus and tube? If she does – good for her but if she’s on the commons taxpayers expenses she should be ashamed.
Identifying self employed from employed has always been a nightmare. I believe in freedom of contract but people working hard should get a fair crack. If anyone has the answer would be pleased to be told.. I don’t know that the report published today says…
No it isn’t complicated, it is what most working people aspired to, generating your own clients at your own price, your own work/ rest play balance.
Your own stress your own re-mortgage, your own risk, your own reward and satisfaction, that was pre Blair ofcourse.
I only ever had one employer one job,………..from 1975 to 1979. from 15 to 19 years old………….
I’ve been a worker on the No Work No Eat life and what makes the hugest difference , by far , by miles , is not government legislation or unions , but the abundance or scarcity of your labour , talents , experience and work ethic .
So importing workers from around the world and semi subsidising them is the biggest , by far ,by miles drag on your wages , opportunity and the stress and strain of future prospects .
While I’m here I categories people’s jobs in four divisions .
1 ; Great job , great pay .
Eg; footballer , prime minister , rock star etc . You know what it means
2; Bad job , great pay .
Perhaps someone working in the City of London , air traffic controllers , others in high stress high pay jobs , boring but well paid jobs etc .
3 ; great job , bad pay .
Like a gamekeeper etc
4 ; Bad job , bad pay
And you know what this could be .
This is the only category of jobs that we should care about . The others can look after themselves ( unless we have stupid civil servants and government ) . Unfortunately in the UK it seems the reverse of this , unlike some other countries . Whether you have an absolute capitalist system or a Marxist system , surely it’s the class 4 that should be a priority .
Did any of you ever work in a unionised factory, i worked for Lambert and Howarth [Burnley].
It soured me to Englishmen for a decade, the petty jealousy / envy even of their own class, their pecking order, the fucking gobshite shop steward, and all of them living in priority local social housing as ”key workers” about 40 of them, 40 manx families homes…….fucking militant class war renta-gobs…..do as they say or the floor stops talking to you, take a 10 minute smoke break every hour, even tho you dont smoke, because we were on price, and they didnt want me earning more than them etc, idiocy personified,
Its why i went self-employed once i had gotten a first buyers low rate government mortgage designed to keep the young on the island…….so in away i should thank them for making me despise the whole job thing.
I had a regular holiday job in a factory when I was a student in the 1970s. I was working nights most of the time producing mail order catalogues, which were probably at their peak back then.
It wasn’t too bad, and paid well. I wasn’t aware of excessive unionisation but there were some extremely unpleasant, chippy individuals there.
You should of tried after getting cirtificate that made you more skilled than them at age 17, see how that worked out, i became to them the ”blue-eyed boy,…..
The roof near came off the place when i went from 3/4 piece work rates per dozen uppers to full price, they just about put up with me earning the same as them on 3/4 rates by being alot quicker, but at 18, the shop steward exploded, when he found out i was going on full rate, demanding i stay on 3/4 rates until i was 21.
Ofcourse the foreman would of been happy to keep me on 3/4 rates, but i handed my notice in, and left for a week, he came to see my mum, and she said,..and i quote, he was the only qualified person in there, he is old enough to vote, he is old enough to be paid a mans wage if he earns it, i went back and got my mortgage based on the last 2 years earnings, then quit, they hadnt talked to me for a year or more, the more i rubbed their noses in it, brand new 750 kawasaki etc….
‘Kawasaki’ and ‘Manx’ in the same sentence? Surely not…
certificate, cannot edit.
I will tell you some of the idiocy in that 4 yr spell from leaving school,.
They had decided £60 a week is what they wanted, then it was go as slow as possible to earn it, i.e. a higher price per dozen, this then gave then 15 mins an hour to dissapear, 5 mins here 10 mins there. their attide f the management.
Then the job itelf was waste as much material as you could get away with, because it was quicker to leave wider gaps between cuts, so use 110 meters at £14 a meter instead of 100 meters, the price per dozen was higher to take the time to cut close as poss to the last cut, or turn around and swap to a smaller template to get the last 6 cuts in instead of 5 and a wide edged waste.
Then they moaned and whined that ”the kid” was getting all the best priced work, ”the kid” was 15/20 metre better than them, thats why they cut £4/5 a metre material all day, and thats why when i quit at 18, he came around the house to get me back, even tho it made for the shittiest of atmopheres.
Then as i went thru my 20s watching the news etc as thatcher and murdoch bust their tribal ass’s, as they dragged British industry into the gutter.
There wasnt a one of those doughnutz had the wit to just go out and cut grass or clean windows/carpets or anything for £100 a week instead.