Here you go, a new Open Thread. The BBC disgusts me at the best of times BUT last night (Friday) on it’s 10PM BBC1 news, it chose to entirely ignore the Jihad killings in Finland. What an abhorrence of a broadcaster.
WEEKEND OPEN THREAD….
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Facebook already polices itself. I mean, of course, that it operates by banning legitimate views from groups on the right it doesn’t like. Google is also increasingly operating in this way, as has been exposed recently. An amusing suggestion is that unless they change their censorious ways sharpish, the US government should legislate to make them corporations! The BBC is happy with the restriction of rightist views, though.
MartinW,
Yes, censorship and “hate crime ” do not apply to the Left or to muslims.
According to Paul Joseph Watson there’s talk of a class action suit against Google by Diamond and Silk over censorship. Given Trump’s views Google could have a massive fight on their hands over this, as big as when Roosevelt took on the monopolies a century ago.
Cranmer,
Facebook and that scumbag Zuckerberg also need to be tackled.
EOver on Radio Lincolnshire is on about “arrests at the Grantham right wing march, with Confederate flags”
“The police won’t release any information”
.. Doh surely that means the arrests were of antifa ?
All pics show police handling antifa
http://www.granthamjournal.co.uk/news/shocking-violence-in-grantham-as-unite-against-fascism-and-national-front-collide-1-8111296
Even if arrests were made of the UAF supporters they will not be sentenced . Too many Tory and Labour MPs are supporters and members. Cameron is a founding member. Not to mention Owen Jones, who is one of their regular speakers
From Wikipedia
‘Unite Against Fascism (UAF) is an anti-fascist[1] pressure group in the United Kingdom, with support from politicians of the three largest political parties in the House of Commons, including the former Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron and the late Labour politician Tony Benn.[2] It describes itself as a national campaign with the aim of alerting British society to a perceived threat of fascism and the far right — in particular the British National Party (BNP) — gaining a foothold at local, national and European elections, arguing that “there is a real danger that the BNP could get a significant platform in elected institutions.”[3]
As of 2014, its honorary presidents are Doreen Lawrence, Baroness Lawrence of Clarendon and Ken Livingstone. Its joint secretaries are Weyman Bennett of the Socialist Workers Party and the Anti-Nazi League, and Sabby Dhalu, formerly of the National Assembly Against Racism (NAAR).[4] One of the UAF vice-chairs is Azad Ali, who in 2009 was suspended as a civil servant in the Treasury after he wrote approvingly on his blog of an Islamic militant who said that as a Muslim he is religiously obliged to kill British soldiers in Iraq.[5]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40981235
Online hate crimes should be treated as seriously as offences in person according to new guidance for prosecutors in England and Wales.
The pledge to toughen the response to online abuse is part of revised Crown Prosecution Service rules for hate crimes.
As Fascism reaches out its long arm to silence free speech and oppress anyone who opposes them we ourselves might find complaints of ‘hate speech’ here for daring to hold views which are not in accord with those of the Fascists.
Frightening times.
Listening to the repeat of Feedback on Sunday I was disappointed, (yet again), to hear the protests from ‘the listeners’ and Roger Bolton, (“the BBC has form here”), that anyone had been allowed to challenge the Climate Change religion, in particular an ex-politician like Lawson. Of course it was OK for an ex-politician like Gore to promote his film and indirectly his ‘carbon-trading’ business.
One gets the feeling that there are ‘activists’ that flood BBC complaints/Feedback whenever the BBC offers so much as a peep from an ‘unbeliever’. I suspect that the BBC allows that very rare ‘peep’ just to get that response which shows that, a) the BBC is ‘balanced’ and ‘impartial’, and b) gives the ‘believers’ another chance to push their religion without challenge.
It really is shocking that Gore has been able to make a sequel to his Oscar winning, Nobel prize winning An Inconvenient Truth given that it was so riddled with lies.
How isn’t it being torn apart by the critics when the first one contained so many convenient lies?
… it was, a few weeks ago, in America – where it was a box office flop …
All hate crime legislation – whether it relates to offences in person, online, or imaginary (by far the largest category) – should be scrapped, as existing legislation is more than sufficient to cope with unpleasantness and these ‘thought crimes’ are concerned solely with supressing free speech and opinion. The one exception to this would be anti-semitism, as this reflects a virulent strain of prejudice with murderous tendencies that has been woven into society for the best part of two milienia. All the rest is all modern invention and purely political.
Hear! Hear! And it is an utter disgrace that we are forced to listen to the same arrant nonsense being spouted by the useless Amber Rudd and her puppet mistress as were dreamed-up by Bliar and that fraud, Jack Straw.
Democracy in this country doesn’t work. Whichever of the two parties of pathological liars gets elected, the policies are identical.
Was not were in the above (note to self- don’t try to post and answer the telephone at the same time!).
Ian and GC,
Agree with both of you.
I guess we won’t be seeing this video footage on BBC! BBC won’t be showing us black people rioting.
The last 10 seconds of this AntiFa kerfuffle clearly shows a black woman shouting at a black Police officer “I’ll f***ing spit on you black bitch”, and “you are supposed to be on our side”.
Credit to the black Police officer who was holding a baseball bat sized piece of wood. How he didn’t whack it across her skull I don’t know. I know I would have!
And the police want to waste resources policing what we think, say and write. I am finding the UK increasingly oppressive as our traditional freedoms, which our forefathers fought for, are being destroyed by the Establishment. Thank goodness I am going back to Gambia next month where there is much more freedom. And that is a terrible indictment of what is happening in Britain.
Free speech is good in theory but not when you realise people exploit it to say the wrong things ; )
Beeb,
Yes, I agree, there have to be limits but I do not think anyone could doubt which direction it is going in Europe and N. America and it frightens me.
PS. Not BBC , but speaking of Gambia, President Barrow ( muslim with 2 wives ) gave a public holiday last week for the christian feast of assumption. He had already denounced former President Jammeh’s lunatic declaration of an “Islamic State “. A team of young muslim volunteers cleaned the street in Banjul where the main cathedral is ” to show solidarity with our christian brothers “.
If only the whole world could be like that.
That’s lovely to hear, Grant. I hope that Gambia manages to keep Common Purpose out of their country or the tolerance will vanish.
English,
I hope so. The EU is trying to interfere and they are Common Purpose through and through.
I meant to add that many leading Imams joined the Christian leaders in a procession last week and it is not just window-dressing there.
Pres. Barrow gave a speech on TV saying ” Whereas people in other parts of the World kill for religious differences, in Gambia, we refuse to go that way. We are one people and one country “.
Unique , I believe ( but not in the BBC way ! )
G
“If only the whole world could be like that.” Islamic you mean?
You can feel all warm and cuddly about this “solidarity” if you wish.
My view, it is either it is another dissimulatory publicity stunt to allay the fears of the week, spineless, Christians.
Or, if genuine, this behaviour, contrary to the wishes of Allah, will have been noted by the “real” Muslims, who will take “appropriate” action at a convenient time in the future.
I hate and mistrust ALL Muslims 24/7/365, I go to status red when they act “nice”.
BBC pushing for PR
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40991615
Scots votes ‘wasted’ in general election
Two-thirds of Scottish votes were wasted in June as they had no impact on the result, a study says.
“The Electoral Reform Society found 66.4% of votes did not go towards electing an MP under Westminster’s first-past-the-post (FPTP) system.
It said there had been a “sea of wasted votes and a surge in tactical voting”.”
So they weren’t wasted at all, but used to prevent an unwanted candidate being elected ! The other odd thing is that although the report does mention wasted votes, there is nothing in it specific to Scotland where it mentions wasted votes at all, in fact Scotland in squarely in the middle of the table of these, and nothing unusual at all.
The real issue is the number if safe Labour seats which number 34 out of the top 35 and where up to 90% of the votes cast were wasted the report claims.
“Over 22 million votes (68%) were wasted this election. Five constituencies saw over 90 percent of the vote making no difference to the outcome (Manchester Gorton, Liverpool Walton, Knowsley, Liverpool Riverside, Liverpool West Derby).”
The methodology for this is unclear, however all of these constituencies are Labour safe seats.
The report is available at the link posted below. Take a quick read and see if you believe it bears any resemblance to what the BBC have reported, and whether they have omitted the parts they didn’t like.
https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-news-and-research/publications/the-2017-general-election-report/#sub-section-12
It is interesting reading. There’s no mention in the report (and you certainly won’t see it on bBC) about allegations of students illegally voting more than once, though I guess that the police won’t be investigating that if they’re so busy monitoring online hate crime. God preserve us from any form of PR, it will be like 1970s and 80s Italy with an election about every 8 months after fragile coalitions fall apart.
Just John being John…
Sofa sloths report on the crackdown of “hate speech” on social media. Or controlling criticism of certain things depending how you look at it. The sloths inform us hate speech could lead to the recent right wing extremism shown in Charlottesville. Or demonstrating because a statue reflecting your cultural past is to be removed only to be met with violence from the fascist left…depending on how you look at it. Social media is a funny old place . A couple of days ago a “charity” page popped up about Yemen this was a few days after a different “charity” page popped up on mine. I commented.” I thought I had blocked this. I don’t care” Wow light blue touch paper and retire to a safe distance. Out of the blue I was subjected to attacks from several people. These consisted mainly of comments about my IQ. One did an amateur hour psychological profile of me based on what he could see of the my picture face page. He informed me I was a lonely, hate the world bitter individual who should get out more instead of playing computer games. Still I don’t care.
The Beeb website goes on about anti gay and bisexual hate crime. Nobody of my generation has the slightest problem with homosexuality; they keep banging on about it to make themselves feel good and to look like they are actually doing something to help us. It’s like telling people not to steal: it is second nature to us to respect people’s sexuality. People can do what they want as long as it does not affect you. Sadly with so much religious tolerance/capitulation it very much does affect us, but the rights of the minority always trump those of the majority in this bonkers SJW dystopia.
The one group which is likely to persecute homosexuals does so on religious grounds, which shows how futile the zero sum game of equality is. What wins, the right to have your religion respected or the right to be respected as a homosexual? I would bet my house that the religious rights would always win, which shows how hollow the Beeb’s noble vows to defend homosexual rights is.
Quite right, BB. The logical conclusion is God will make his own judgement in the end anyway.
What is important for the individual is what you choose to do, being as aware or unaware of the consequences as you choose to be. However, as you point out in your second post, as far as the BBC and similar groups are concerned, they have their chosen, select conformities that they are wishing to impose.
It is an amazing clash of imposed group hypocrisy versus accidental, unknowing or chosen hypocrisy on an individual basis. The one limits freedom and minimises responsibility, the other enhances freedom and requires maximum personal responsibility.
I wonder when pot-smoking will be made compulsory? 😉
In the case of a Muslim woman wearing a veil to a primary school there was a clear clash between her right to religious expression and the children’s rights to not be afraid – as to so many the veil is intimidating.
There are too many protected groups now: race; religion; belief; age; orientation . . . Like so many things, it is the lawyers who always win as now pretty much anything you say could land you in court.
Do the test ! Ask your friends what percentage of the population they believe is gay and they’ll return guesses of around 25%. The real figure is actually less than 2% (according to the Guardian) and then you can demonstrate to them the way the media is manipulating the population through propaganda.
T
Do the test.
I did the test.
The test showed that 95% of wingers, loafers, non-heterosexuals, haters (especially white haters) are employed by The BBC or The Guardian.
The Guardian is indirectly funded by the BBC (us).
The Guardian is now totally poisonous. One nonsensical hating article after another.
10,000 ludicrous, hating posts applauding each article. Two minutes hate George, The Guardian does perpetual hate.
“Facts are sacred”, not any more. if Winston Smith worked for The Guardian he would drop dead from exhaustion after a week. The “facts”, and the historical record, change every second.
I feel nearly sad enough to send them a fiver.
It is sinister that after another weekend of enrichment this hate crime news is released. The message is clear: shut up or be damned. Freedom to make jokes? Hope of a world without constant terror attacks? No chance. I am staying at home as much as possible. I do not trust it is safe to go out unless I have to.
“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever.”
George Orwell, 1984.
Any law or guideline which restricts freedom of speech is a cause for anger and concern . It sounds like it will give discretion to prosecuting authorities – police and cps to use it to please the msm and government .
Being a pessimist I predict use to prosecute non left wingers and those expressing their anger about the crimes of particular so called religious groups .
I hope my words have been vague enough not to fall within the CPS guidelines because otherwise I ll get the 4 am knock . The future of websites like this and our freedom is questionable
It’s like watching a rerun of the “Volksverhetzung ” hysteria in Germany immediarely after Merkel’s Madness.
The “robust feedback” politicians got via the social media scared the shit out of them.
Rather than accept public hostility, the German equivalent of the loud-mouth, labour MP in the grotesque shape of Renate Künast of the Greens added fuel to the fire by criticising the police for shooting dead an axe-wielding muslim terrorist rather than arresting him. She also thinks that the ironic use of the phrase “Religion of Peace” on the social media should be classified as a “hate crime”. These people are incapable of understanding why they are loathed by large sections of the electorate.
These kinds of people always claim that the muslim terrorists’ strategy is to frighten the public and to divide society. The public for the most part are not afraid, merely angry, and a society that has experienced multiple muslim atrocities cannot be described as cohesive. The terrorists’ strategy is to be seen to be able to strike at will regardless what the authorities might do. As the authorities are incapable of taking any form of effective action because they claim it would be “counter-productive ” or “a recruiting sergeant “, this tells the terrorists that the vast majority of the muslim population really support them and that the authorities have been cowed by the implicit threats from the “muslim community”. None of the political elites would claim that it was “counterproductive” to take effective action against a neonazi organisation which was murdering scores of people in multiple outrages. Who, other than neonazis, would want to escalate violence in response? They were willing to take harsher measures against football hooligans and there were no objections fron the “human rights” brigade The real strategy of terrorists is to show that the authorities can do nothing to stop them. Once it becomes clear to most of the general populace that the authorities are unwilling to do anything effective, or incapable of doing anything effective, there will be a deeper crisis. Using vast resources to track 20,000 Gefährder, as even the German media!! call them, is hardly an effective measure. This is essentially a division-strength irregular army that has been allowed to establish itself in Britain.,
ID,
Top post !
Channel 4, The State: Nice bit of islamist propaganda, a veritable recruitment film for ISIS: Photogenic, likeable characters go to join ISIS and discover a spiritual, disciplined way of life with camaraderie, excitement, purpose. I wonder how many impressionable young muslims have signed up after episode 1? Perhaps future episodes will show the dark side… but our new converts may be in Syria by then!
Channel 4: as thick as the beebistan.
Charlie,
Brace of you to watch it. I can’t do it even to spot the ‘clever ‘ propaganda placed in c4 or al beeb programmes .
Fedup – I watched it to observe the propaganda and to stay abreast of what the media feed the sheeple, same reason I occasionally watch the beeb lies, or ‘News’ as they call it.
I took no pleasure in it at all, except when the adverts came on.
Charlie ,
I guessed you’d say that and thank you for it. I feel a bit past that stage now as seeing the msm poison is becoming just too painful.
I wonder if that means they have beaten me?
Saw that advertised. I tool a wild guess how it would go and gave it a miss. Which looks like the right decision.
As predicted, many of the msm now equating ‘far-right’ extremism with islamic extremism. On the one hand two real lone wolves (one psychotic) on the Right have killed 2 people; on the other, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, killed in mass worldwide terror, murder and war by a ‘religion’ that poses an existential threat to Western civilisation, and suddenly they’re ‘two sides of the same coin’.
Even papers that should know better like the Times and DT are falling for this lie. They are so fearful of being called bigoted, so keen to show they’re ‘balanced’ that they spout this nonsense. Everyone must bend the knee to ‘liberal’ political correctness.
Charlie, simply Fake News – they’re all at it following the BBC’s lead no doubt.
CM – it’s insane, and now with more pressure on the compliant corporate giants like Google and Facebook to police dissident opinions I’m starting to wonder how long we can (relatively) freely express our views on this site.
As for the equivalence of deaths/murders/violence by the far-right I used to be shocked that they had the gall to try and compare them without embarrassment. Not any more. The MSM do it purely to humiliate us because they know alternative opinions are locked down, and if you put your head above the parapet you’ll at best lose your job.
We obviously need a replacement Brucie Forsyth, who years ago invited us to ‘have a look at the old scoreboard!’ to keep a proper tally of the tiny few mentally ill nazi nutters vs the Global Hegemony of leftists+religion-that-cannot-be-named nutters!
I usually listen to ‘Something Understood’ at 11.30 on Radio4 on a Sunday night, usually restful stuff – music and poetry- which helps you reflect on life as you drift off. Last night I received a bucket of cold water. Someone called Remona Ali presented her programme on the ‘divine feminine’ which her muslim faith had brought her to. It ended off declaring ‘patriachic’ religions such as Christianity and all male spiritual directions as ‘aggressive’ and that ultimately the female was not only equal to the male in issues of the spirit, but a good deal superior!
There is simply no nook or cranny the BBC won’t takeover and turn into propaganda for its current causes. No more Something understood’ for me at 11.30 on a Sunday night.
I hate it when they even have to shoehorn their messages into drama. If Shakespeare were alive today none of his work would get commissioned by the Beeb as it is too ‘offensive.’
I usually listen to ‘Something Understood’ at 11.30 on Radio4 on a Sunday night, usually restful stuff – music and poetry- which helps you reflect on life as you drift off. Last night I received a bucket of cold water. Someone called Remona Ali presented her programme on the ‘divine feminine’ which her muslim faith had brought her to. It ended off declaring ‘patriachic’ religions such as Christianity and all male spiritual directions as ‘aggressive’ and that ultimately the female was not only equal to the male in issues of the spirit, but a good deal superior!
There is simply no nook or cranny the BBC won’t takeover and turn into propaganda for its current causes. No more Something understood’ for me at 11.30 on a Sunday night.
Yes, FNW,
I used to listen to that programme but have not for many months for similar reasons to yourself. Indeed, by the month, I am tuning in to the BBC far far less than a couple of years ago.
And I always thought “Quran (4:11) – (Inheritance) “The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females” (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established”
As predicted.
This talk of a transitional arrangement really gets on my tits.
British businesses don’t need years to plan for changes, just solid notification that its going to happen and exactly when and then they adapt accordingly. So, out of touch ministers saying that we’ll need three extra years is just a nonsense.
Businesses will prep for the change 3-6 months before the ‘day’ and hence giving them another 3 years means they’ll just wait another 3 years before preparing. It’s blatantly transparent stalling tactics to get another 3 years cash from us, to prevent us signing any trade deals and delay long enough that maybe another GE will be called and we’ll change our minds.
I had faith in David Davis but I’m disappointed to say that he seems to be just another politician not recognising that MP’s carry out public demands, not the other way round. The referendum result wasn’t a ‘would you mind leaving the EU’, it wasn’t a ‘is there any chance you could see whether this was doable’. It was a clear instruction from the people that you are meant to represent – Leave the EU.
“Does everyone agree that those who didn’t vote should be included, so we are an inclusive society, in the final EU Referendum Result?”
“Leave the EU” + “Happy Either Way, Had chance to Vote but didn’t” @65%
“Remain in the EU (when being inclusive)” @35%
“..but I don’t want to be part of a Country called Europe. I want to be part of a Country called Great Britain.” {youtube}
– David Cameron (sided with Remain in EU 2016) on the David Letterman Show, USA, 06.05.2014
Payne, you are right. Any business of any size would have been considering the implications from 27 June 2016 onwards, if not before. Some of the politicians and some of the media are way behind on this!
I know. Our businesses are all about exploiting opportunities and if there is a chance to get ahead by being prepared and ready from the get go rather than the inefficient, bumbling, reliant on government subsidy and assistance that the EU thinks all it’s businesses are, then we should have some confidence in our abilities.
I mean Deutsche Bank and ING haven’t waited for the ‘break’ before growing their operations in London. Wells Fargo didn’t wait until us leaving before committing to their new £300 million European HQ in London. Businesses aren’t waiting, they are just getting on and hence bringing in a transitional agreement to “protect jobs and investment” is blatant lie.
‘Transitional agreement’ has a real ‘Sir Humphrey’ sound to it. We need to watch HMG very carefully on this one.
If we had a serious Government we would be out by now. But Treezer and these people are third rate jokers. Totally useless.
UK Fact Checking Charity: http://www.fullfact.org/
Again, they need to stop using the word ‘Divorce Bill {fullfact.org}‘.
Who is the Husband?
Who is the Wife?
What are the grounds for the divorce?
How long have they been married?
Who cheated on who?
Who are the kids?
What properties are involved?
What do the other family members think?
What are the other 27 people involved in this divorce?
What country is the divorce taking place in?
Can we all see the marriage certificate?
We should cite Greece as co-respondent in the ‘divorce’. After all, the EU’s been screwing her for years!
A “New” crackdown on ‘Hate Crimes’.
Take a look at the stats for 2013/14 and note the highest number in this Utopian haven of wonderful multicultural diversity involved race hate crimes https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/467471/hosb0515snr.pdf
A mere 6% covered religious hate crime. We are told 2014/15 shows an 18% increase (but no breakdown). For those interested, a further breakdown in the stats and info might (I use ‘might’ because if you have hours possibly days to trawl through this ‘gobbley-gook’ you may find something) be found here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/search?q=hate+crime
All in all, we are told the figures are up but, and I confess to not having the time to scrutinise the stats, there seems no up-to-date figures after 2014/15 so I guess, that the increase is all speculation.
CPS document on Hate Crime – https://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/docs/hate_crime_leaflet_support.pdf
I will be exploring whether the hate contained in the quaran against non-believers of the cult and their other documents, amounts to a Hate Crime everytime extracts are cited.
New term coming your way “mate crime” – where the perpetrator can be a friend, carer or acquaintance, and befriends someone to exploit this ‘friendship’ for financial gain or some other criminal purpose. (isn’t this just a criminal?)
Notice how in the following we are not given a run down of the words spoken by both parties in the following example from the CPS Hate Crime Leaflet Support {pdf page11}, how do I know what to listen for if it is described as ‘abusive towards her gender identity‘?
Did he say ‘Zhe’ rather than ‘She’?
Or ‘He’ instead of ‘She’?
“5. The defendant approached the victim, a transgender woman, at a transport hub. He first tried to
sell her a ticket and when she showed no interest in buying it, asked for money. When the victim
walked away towards her platform, the defendant became abusive towards her gender identity. He
followed her progress to the platform and spat at her.
The attending police officer took a swab of the spittle which, after forensic examination, was found
to be a DNA match to the defendant’s. Initially, the defendant did not deny the assault, but denied
the transphobic element.
To assist the court, a Victim Personal Statement was provided by the victim who had been very
shaken by the incident. The defendant entered a guilty plea. The sentence would have been a
category 2 offence, but was increased to a category 1 due to the transphobic aggravation. An eight
week curfew was imposed on the defendant who had to wear an electronic tag between the hours
of 18.00 and 06.00. A compensation claim was made on behalf of the victim.”
Surely a better curfew for transphobic behaviour would be to wear a dress for a week?
For Islamophobia it could be convert to a Muslim?
Clicked on Radio 4 in the car. Women’s Hour having a discussion about boys and girls stereotyping in “Peppa Pig ” ( whatever that is ). The BBC dealing with the big issues of the day. Never much about the threat to Western civilisation by the spread of Islam, uncontrolled immigration and muslim terrorism.
Did they discuss whether women wearing those Islamic terrorist whole body coverings rr inforced genda steerrreotyping ?
I guess not
Fedup,
I didn’t listen long enough to find out. Luckily I was alone in my car which does not take offence at my frequent use of frank anglo-saxon words whenever I switch on the BBC.
Marseille bus stop hit by car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40998324
“They [police] have given no indication of any motive behind the incident. Media say the driver is known to police”.
Two bus stops hit in the report I read.
Really careless driving.
Apparently, ‘Prince William should stand for election’ according to Owen Jones.
Tell you what, as media people are not without power, how about Owen Jones standing for election?
How about the whole of the BBC? It’s hardly democratic as it stands.
Somebody has crashed into a Bus shelter in France and he may have struck another earlier according to the bBC:
Marseille bus stop hit by car, one dead and driver arrested
The Evil nasty Daily Mail which never reports the news according to the ethical latte crowd tells me that a 35 year old man in a stolen car rammed a Bus shelter at 8am this morning and then another at 9am.
Its as if the bBC are downplaying this latest in a line of Islamic hate crimes, I mean here’s the bBCs current European News Web Page:
Pounce,
Did the BBC ever follow up the muslim terrorist attack in Russia a few days ago ?
Not that I know of
Pounce,
Strange . They have been going on about Charlottesville for many days now. Anyone would think that the BBC is biased .
Grant:
I know, today they have a new one regards how Germans feel about Charlotteville.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-41002843/charlottesville-violence-what-germans-think-seeing-a-us-far-right-rally
I suppose it takes that London tower block off the front page. oh hang on:
Grenfell: Can public inquiries ever satisfy everyone?
Pounce,
According to the BBC all Germans feel the same way.
The Germans are currently in election mode with the likes of Merkel touring the country. The thing is a lot of people don’t like her:
I wonder why the bBC isn’t reporting this.
How many times would Trump have been prosecuted under thought/hate crime laws? Never mind that he has the support of the majority of his people. Clearly there are certain things which nobody is allowed to believe in anymore.
Apparently hate crime can have ‘devastating effects on communities.’ The problem is people being encouraged to be pathetic. I watched this programme about alcoholics and this one young man had a breakdown when he did not get a promotion. Had he been taught to toughen up to rather than call the Police if someone hurts his feelings he might not have developed a problem. Direct threats and continued harassment is a Police matter, but if someone just calls you names or disagrees with you then just grow a pair and get on with it. In real life you have to deal with constant affronts, insults and offensive stuff. The sooner you learn grit and resilience the better. It is just not healthy to be offended and upset all the time. The Beeb have made being offended some sort of aspirational life choice.
Though ostensibly to protect vulnerable people from hurt feelings, in reality this is the iron fist of the state clamping down on thought crime. Literally anything you say could land you in prison. So shut up and learn to love Big Brother.
Beeb,
“Communities ” does not include white people and christians, of course.
More quality reporting from the BBC News website:
The USS John S McCain is involved in a collision and we are told:
“Singapore and US authorities said the destroyer sustained damage to her port side, which is the left-hand side of the vessel facing forward.
At 182m (600ft), the tanker is slightly longer than the 154m-long US destroyer. [That’s three ‘London Bus’ units] “
JimS,
Yes, I noticed that too. Thank God that we idiots have the genius of the BBC to educate us. I think the problem is that Beeboids think that we are all even more ignorant than they are. I could picture them frantically googling ” Port ” to find out what it means. Imagine their surprise to discover that it did not mean the side nearest the Port. Morons.
It’s probably for the benefit of those who have been through the British state education system in recent years. Maybe the journo who wrote it is a 16 year old who had to google it to find out what it meant.
Grant
They probably think the other side is “Sherry”.
Lobbie,
LOL !
Jim,
I trained as an Army Combat Support Boat operator in the Medway and we were taught the difference between Port and Starboard by this simple line:
Is there any Red Port Left?
Red is the colour of one of the two running lights all ships have to use at night.
Meaning that green is Starboard and the right
Just remember when listening to the latest attack in Marseille that the people of France had the chance to elect someone who would do something to stop these attacks, they chose to elect someone who would do absolutely nothing.
The people of France effectively voted for these attacks to continue and we should all bear that in mind.
I think I read once that of the many French officers who died in WW2, more than 40% were shot in back. Whilst running away.
Well said. They brought this naïve, ever continuing distillation of their country onto themselves.
The killing spree of the psychopathic cars continues!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40998324
“The unconfirmed media reports say he has a criminal record and may be suffering from mental illness issues” ….clearly meaning he’s not white, Christian and a supporter of Front National!
Devious, hate filled, bigoted, intolerant, dangerous…The qualities required to write propaganda for the so-called BBC
This is getting reminiscent of the early days of the V weapon attacks in London during WWII when the government tried to pretend the explsions they caused were due to ‘gas main’ malfunctions.
Governments always lie. It’s a defence mechanism to keep us from their throats.
So many “mental health issues”! The whole of Europe must be crawling with loonies.
Talk about an excuse wearing a bit thin ……
Well, Lobbie, it is either that or ‘drug & drink addled’.
Unfortunately, that may include some Beeboids as suspects.
Trying to make isolated acts of the ‘far right’ look like organised terrorism is one of the most insidious and disingenuous acts of the ‘far left’ yet carried out by the likes of Leanne Wood and the BBC.
Leanne Wood has unsurprisingly been described in several places as nothing but a moron. She may not be the sharpest pencil in the box, but seeing her as merely intellectually challenged is too kind. She knew exactly what she was doing when she tweeted: “Is this another terror act from the far right?” about the Barcelona Islamic atrocity, just as the BBC know when they lump such acts together with Thomas Mair (lone nutter driven to distraction) Finsbury Park (lone nutter driven to distraction most likely by BBC propaganda), Charlottesville (who knows yet? – lone nutter driven to distraction by failure to police Antifa violence?).
Leanne Wood’s painting of Islamic terrorist as not even ‘like the far right’, but simply as another manifestation ‘of the far right’ is to my mind a straw man. ‘Let’s see how far we can take this?’ She later tried to explain the comment by pointing out what Muslim terrorists and her political opponents (the ‘far right’) have in common in her view is for instance using violence to achieve their ends. The absurdity of this claim was not in any way referred to by the MSM, who one has to deduce probably think that if she gets away with this, can use the same tactic – use every Islamic terrorist attack to attack the right.
It’s a shame she and the BBC aren’t taken more to task by – say a true right winger like a notable Tory politician. . ? Hmm, OK. What should have been said could reflect an excellent post on this site the other day. In that, it was pointed our that the left-right political continuum is hugely over-emphasised, but has been successfully seized by the left since WWII. By placing the Nazis securely on the far right of the spectrum as they have, it allows them to accuse anyone on their right at all as being ‘like Hitler’. This is so intellectually bankrupt that they shouldn’t get away with it. But people like simple models, so they do.
A much more pertinent continuum however, is collectivism vs. individualism. What the three great tyrannies the world has experienced have in common is collectivism. Islam, communism and Nazism are all collective faiths that put the interests of the state (or Caliphate) ahead of those of the individual. All start with some Utopian ideals, but end in a totalitarian system. All demand submission to the system, are profoundly un-democratic either in principal or practice, and between them have led to the murder of hundreds of millions. Individualism on the other hand is what most right-leaning thinking promotes the most. The US founding fathers promoted the freedom of the individual over that of the state, and most right-leaning thinking promotes a small state and minimum interference with the individual. Unlike Islam, communism and Nazism, I can’t think of one organisation dedicated to the values of individual freedoms that is guilty of mass murder. Islam, communism and Nazism are all bed-fellows of collectivism and the enemies of right-wing thnking.
Kafir,
Top post. Luckily most people have never heard of her and I doubt if those who have take any notice of her stupidities.
LeanneWood@LeanneWood
Followers 45.5K (quite a few people believe/follow her – just like Gary Lineker’s views!)
Tweets, current page. 22.5K
Following 839
Likes 2,064
“Leader/Arweinydd Plaid Cymru – the Party of Wales. Aelod Cynulliad / Assembly Member for the Rhondda.”
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB 6h6 hours ago
New polling finds that more than a third of Leave voters believed that £350m a week would be coming to the NHS
(could not find opinion poll referenced, plus it does not show numbers)
LeanneWoodVerified account @LeanneWood 3h3 hours ago
Hate crimes committed on social media will be treated as seriously as similar street-based offences – CPS.
MickAntoniw AM @MickAntoniw1 Aug 18
MickAntoniw AM Retweeted LeanneWood
Isis is a right wing extremist,fundamentalist ideology Your description is right. There is nothing to apologise for.
This lead me to these Two views – worlds apart!{twitter LeanneWood’s follow up}
Nine days on and they are still going on about it. Such a supply and demand problem for the Left – we ‘oppressor’ classes just don’t do enough oppressing, whilst those who are supposedly ‘oppressed’ are less reticent. It’s almost as if applying Marxist theory to culture is patently absurd. It did not even work in its original form, and certainly not now the virus has mutated.
KH,
“All start with some Utopian ideals, but end in a totalitarian system. All demand submission to the system, are profoundly un-democratic either in principal or practice, and between them have led to the murder of hundreds of millions.
2
Venezuela anybody?
Kafir- That is the best post I have read on here in a long time. Superb!
Lobbie, on behalf of the rest of us here, I am thoroughly miffed!
Just kidding. You are right, it was good a good post and highlights how a leader can lose the plot, just being their standard doctrinaire, unthinking self. I was just checking the Mike Smithson survey results that MarkyMark refers to above and encountered an interesting piece on that Political Betting site about the SNP.
Different country, same problem.
It applies to the BBC, too. Keep plugging away at Islam is lovely, gays are hard done by, young children should pick their gender, immigration should be unfettered, political correctness and diversity is vitally important, salt and sugar and alcohol and smoking and tweeting are evil and people must be controlled and sooner or later the audience will yawn, get restless and the teamaking sessions will get longer and longer and the viewing & listening shorter until the question is asked “Why do I keep this on? I’m wasting electricity.”
‘Click’.
Great post.
I’ve been trying to draw attention to the collectivism versus individualism axis for a while, rather than the left versus right (we are all collectivists now) model, which most people have been taught is the only one, so it is good to see others ‘gets it’.
Part of the problem is that it is like the old joke about forming The Apathetic Society – no-one turned up! Yet it is the individuals that make a society. The smarter ones see where something can be done and do it; the not-so smart get on with living, stocking the shelves, driving the buses, keeping the lights on etc. Real things of real value. That is what Mrs. Thatcher was getting at with her (deliberately by the BBC) misunderstood ‘there is no such thing as society’ – we as individuals make a society, it isn’t for a ‘society’ to make us.
As for the Lovely Leanne, by her definition the UAF, Antifa, Scargill Miners, Anti-Hunt, Anti-Fracking, Anti-English Holiday Homes etc. are all ‘far-right’. I can live with that!
The bBC and its very low key coverage regards that van incident where it was driven into 2 (separated by 5 miles and an hour) bus shelters killing one person. The BBC is reporting this is not a terrorist incident (“At the moment we have no information on the motives of this individual,” a police official told Reuters.) and that the driver has mental health issues. They then post this picture of the van used:
Everybody else is using this picture:
So subtle.
Pounce,
Must be a white van man .
Is your point that in the BBC pic the van looks undamaged cos the forensic guy is blocking the view ?
If the authorities SAY that it’s not terrorism, then the media can’t shout it is terrorist can they ?
Also it looks like a bent post of some sort in the bottom picky on the right.
Are you suggesting that the BBC website selected a photo where the forensic team are stood in positions that cover up the damage on the van? Hiding the ripped door panel and the crushed bonnet?
Why did it take me 5 minutes to work that out?
Marseille bus stop hit by van, one dead and driver arrested {bbc.co.uk aug2017}
More importantly let’s look at writing on the trees …
Barcelona attack: What the trees say {bbc.co.uk aug2017}
‘If each great city takes in a terror attack in its own way, in Barcelona they write on the trees.
Along Las Ramblas, on trees overlooking spots where the van ran people down, the beautiful patchwork of the bark teems with words and symbols.
“The plane trees of Barcelona witnessed the massacre,” reads one message, written in Catalan. “They are still standing.”
“Love from Northern Ireland”
“Love and peace. Israel” (In Spanish)
“Morocco is with you”
“You will always [be] in our hearts. Love. Pray for Barcelona. Russia, Moscow”
“Sons of bitches” (Spanish)
“Peace in the whole world. Philippines”
“Love” (“amor” means the same in Catalan, Spanish or Portuguese)
“We will never be afraid to live. Peace and freedom are a human right and we will not stop remembering it. We’re not afraid” (Catalan)
“You will never defeat us” (Catalan)
“Love from Manchester UK”
“Enough already!” (Spanish)
“Barcelona is love, not war” (Spanish)
“Stop!”
“Love and peace” (German)
“You’ll never be forgotten”
“We are all Las Ramblas” (Spanish)
“Hugs matters”
“Keep me in your memory. Leave out all the rest. Love, Barcelona”
“We will never give up” (Catalan)
“God is a god of peace, not of war” (Spanish)
“Love and peace will save the world”
“Love from Iraq”
“I still have hope in mankind” (Spanish)
“Love conquers all fears” (Spanish)
“Where is the love?”
“Barcelona like a jewel in the sun” (lyric from Freddy Mercury song)
“Terrorism never again” (Polish)
“Barbarity in the name of religion” (French)
“I am a Muslim. I condemn terrorism”
“The sky is shining brighter now” (Catalan)
“Rest in peace in Heaven”
“Without love there is no future” (Spanish)
“Peace is not written in blood!” (Spanish)
“Love wins”
“Terrorists are not Muslim”
“Make love not war”
“No more hate. Islam is the religion of love”
“Hold on BCN we love u”
“Love against hate”
“Messages of love in times of war” (Spanish)’
‘You will never defeat us’ – who are the ‘You’?
That is so well spotted Pounce.
I remember the one with Trump which compared him to Saudia Arabian cabinet …
Saudi Arabia launches girls’ council – without any girls {bbc mar2017}
It has been compared to another viral hit – an image of US President Donald Trump, surrounded by men (but a women is available if you want to find it! {nytimes jan2017}), signing an abortion policy in January.
I see that Big Ben has been silenced.
Stephen Pound arranged for some of his mates to demonstrate outside Parliament.
‘MPs gather for Bell End Ceremony’
(h/t Guido)
No 7
How can it take so long to carry out remedial works. I would be willing to bet that Big Ben never returns. After all, it is a symbol of British tradition.
PS, The new Forth Road Bridge ” Queensferry Crossing ” is due to open on 30 August. It has been completed in 6 years and, to my surprise, come in pretty much on budget. I am not an engineer but I understand that this is a masterpiece of engineering and construction.
Now that they are free, can’t the same people deal with the Elizabeth Tower renovation ? Probably be a 3-month job for them. I smell a rat.
Unfortunately, the Queen’s Crossing Bridge was originally supposed to be completed in December 2016, then May 2017…..so it’s really being delivered 8 months late. The excuse was that there was some bad weather over a brief period in 2016 which led to the 8-month delay ????????????.
As to being on budget…. the original budget was set at £2.34 billion, and it will out-turn somewhere north of £1.35 billion.
Now – a cynic might suggest that, given the results of the Scottish Parliament building (10 times the original budget, and three years late) – and the Edinburgh Tram project (something like 3 years late and close to 50% over budget) – perhaps the Bridge project was originally over-budgeted to the extent that it could never come in over budget ……. ah, but it’s only taxpayers’ money…… and any idiot can make a project come in under budget if you budget double the worst case scenario you can imagine.
richard D
Possibly true . But still a better outcome than the crazy HS2 project or the ludicrous “Garden Bridge ” and the Big Ben nonsense.
The Edinburgh Tram idiocy was a failure by the useless City Council and was opposed by most Edinburgh people . But the bridge project was generally supported. As for the Scottish Parliament building, that was just a corrupt Labour fuck up ! And a vanity project for that cnut Dewar. At least the Bridge will function and serve a purpose .
The Queens Crossing Bridge project was originally most generally supported by the people who live North of the River Forth, on the basis that the original Forth Road Bridge had become incapable of dealing with the volume of traffic Southbound in the morning and Northbound in the evening. In addition, when the rusting was discovered in the main cables on this bridge in the ‘mid-noughties’, people were suddenly made aware that the existing bridge might be closed permanently…. potentially within 10 years or so…. with the horrific prospect of an inland diversion of some 30 miles onto another bridge complex which would be unable to sustain the resulting traffic. (In fact, in late 2015, the Forth Road Bridge was actually closed for around a month, and people learned what this would actually mean…..and were right to be horrified).
IIRC, when first mooted, the actual people of Edinburgh, when surveyed, were emphatically against the Queens Crossing Bridge, on the basis that it would simply encourage more traffic into the Edinburgh City area.
Now, what appears to be the case, is that the old Forth Road Bridge will be dedicated to public transport vehicles (buses, taxis, etc.) and the Queens Crossing Bridge will be used for all other vehicular traffic. Given that this is by far the bulk of the traffic currently using the Forth Road Bridge, the Queens Crossing Bridge – still only two lanes each Northbound and Southbound – is likely to provide no extra capacity whatsoever to Central Scottish infrastructure, so many people are now beginning to question whether this will turn out to be yet another expensive vanity project, rather than a serious future-proofing of the roads infrastructure. Building a three lanes each way bridge is not that much more expensive than a two lanes either way bridge. And if the original Forth Road Bridge is completely closed (as could still happen), then the new one has no pedestrian or cycle access, and will be lumbered with the extra public transport load.
Has anyone considered that the Queen or Prince Philip may not live to hear the sounds of Big Ben again ?
Big Ben will be turned into a minaret in 20 years time…
Ian,
Maybe that is the plan already.
And we won’t hear it chime; we will hear the call to prayer.
If you object you will be arrested for racism
Daily Mail reports that 70 BBC “stars ” are still paid through tax-avoiding personal service companies, despite the BBC promising to end this practice 5 years ago. Just more BBC lies and hypocrisy. Vermin.
1pm R4 the Amol-Rajan-bot is presenting WatO the news show
What’s going on ?
Is BBC giving Amol , the J Vine show holiday job and extra stuff to make him the first £500K/yr BAME BBC journalist ?
Stew, lots of unusual presenters (not the usual back-up) have been popping up on TODAY, WatO, etc.. I wonder whether the Big Pay Reveal forced upon the BBC has created so much rivalry & jealousy that 1. the BBC bosses have been threatening pay cuts, 2. lots of the big names are working to rule (refusing to do holiday cover, etc.) and 3. they are all off lunching their agents furiously seeking to gain an edge in getting extra work for a raise or switching to another employer.
Amol is OK but I just cannot listen to him without wanting to phone in as a Paul Whitehead or Felix Dexter character.
Part of WatO today was hilarious, but that particular contribution came from a works manager at the Elizabeth Tower.
… who was that ghastly shouting, hard voiced woman presenting Westminster Hour on R4 last night … instant switch off …
… who was that ghastly shouting, hard voiced woman presenting Westminster Hour on R4 last night … instant switch off …
He’s the BBC’s latest Nadya – a product promoted far beyond its intrinsic usefulness or value, designed to inculcate the desired state of mind in the British public.
When a BBC presenter gushes about a greenDream thing what will the reality be ?
When they describe something as huge , what will the actual output be
9pm BBC2 tonight BBC accidentally insert another advert for green causes
That’s hype, cos compared to a normal coal or gas station it’s quite small “Once fully completed by end of 2016 it will have capacity to generate 1,000 MW” Output will be less than half that due to solar capacity factor
And they still haven’t installed that 1,000MW yet Aug 17
** Anchoring us with that $35bn figure is misleading. It’s like saying spending £500 on our village bus stop is part of the UK gov’s £700bn a year spending
The BBC routinely lies about ‘Green’ issues. ‘Green’ is what they do instead of religion.
GC,
The BBC have many religions but the two main ones are Islam and Green, the colour of Islam , coincidently, or not as the case may be.
Beijing (China) has proven itself rather shrewd (Dishonest? Liars? Frauds?). At home it has been steadily reducing its reliance on coal (meeting it’s international obligations!), replacing it with renewable energy. Yet all the while — it has been happy to invest in dirty energy abroad (so China does not care about the environment?), with profits returning to boost the domestic sector {dailytimes aug2017}
– I like the use of the word ‘shrewd’ for China’s behaviour – having or showing sharp powers of judgement; astute.
– I wonder what Al Gore would say?
We have a lot of Solar “Farms” cropping up in our part of the world where cows would once graze on good fertile pasture lands. Dairy farmers giving up to go this route. Won’t be long before a study will find that we aren’t producing as much milk as we once did and are now importing more milk from countries like Poland.
What a fantastic GREEN policy.
Similar note was when my Grandfather worked on farm and the owner was paid to knock down hedges to increase yields. Guess What. Thirty years later they paid him even more money to put them back.
No doubt the Government took advice from the “experts” that so contaminate the MSM these days.
Unintended consequences beware … Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis {guardian jul2008}
“Internal World Bank study delivers blow to plant energy drive
Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75% – far more than previously estimated (wonder what the estimate was? Does not say) – according to a confidential World Bank report obtained by the Guardian.
…
‘It is clear that some biofuels have huge impacts on food prices,” said Dr David King, the government’s former chief scientific adviser, last night. “All we are doing by supporting these is subsidising higher food prices, while doing nothing to tackle climate change.’ “
No mention whatever on the BBC Teletext News about the Marseilles “incident”, but they do mention that the head of the airline Qantas is supporting gay marriage in Australia.
Now, regulars on here will know that I am gay, but in the Top Ten worries in my life, gay marriage ranks about 278th. In other words, way below being murdered by some Islamic nutcase.
Lobster – that’s outrageous and proves why we need new online hate speech laws. What on earth is wrong with being murdered by some Islamic nutcase? It’s all the rage in Barcelona, London, Manchester, Marseilles, Berlin, Russia, Israel…
Ian – you are correct! To atone for my sins I will wear a burka and join the Labour Party.
Grimsby Town fans ‘had to show bras’ to Stevenage security {bbc.co.uk aug2017}
– But why are Security firms so worried about possible wires and liquids being taken into stadiums? Just can’t think …
Grimsby Town fans outraged as stewards (does not mention it was female steward) at Stevenage ‘ask female fans to show bras’ {grimsbytelegraph aug2017}
“Mariners supporters at the Lamex Stadium were not happy with the ‘ridiculous’ level of security checks.
…
It is understood the checks at Stevenage were being carried out by women (mentioned half way through article) but Mariners fans still felt the searches were “ridiculous”.”
– Did anyone ask why the searching was needed?
– Notice how both stories don’t mention that it was women doing the searches until later on in the article. But they allude to it being a male steward doing the search or rather don’t tell you so you assume the worse, a man groping a woman.
– Also, when we have 71 genders, can someone produce a spreadsheet to say who can search who? Can only a transgender security check a transgender? If you are transitioning does it matter?
– Could I suggest a title ‘Extensive security at Football Match as everyday objects being used as weapons throughout Europe (plus acid, homemade bombs and gas canisters – is it all part and parcel of living in a modern liberal society). ‘
Marky,
Were the muslim lady supporters of the Mariners subjected to the same security ?
Utopia (nowhere) has the answer – no clothes, all naked, living with nature, gathering in a field to pray to the moon. Body scans will be a thing of the past!
Why didn’t the Grimsby Town FC security firm just add a billboard stating:
Due to events in Europe (complete list dating back to the Crusades) we will need to complete indepth searches to stop the possibility of the following:
* Death by home made bombs (hence bra searching for wires)
* Acid attacks (no bottles of fluids)
* Knife attacks (no pointy things)
* Axe attacks (no axey things)
* Hate Crimes (no hatey thoughts)
For more information why not visit List of Islamic Terror Attacks {thereligionofpeace.com}
It was probably Muslim s doing the searching if you’ve been to many matches recently .
by 9am this was the Bbc Radio Humberside topic of the day
Dig a little
#1 There was a female Stevenage steward keeping order in the MALE bathroom, which had no water or anything
#2 At least 3 women were asked about their bra wiring, by a steward, but no one mentioned a male steward only a female.
My guess is that the boss of the female stewards was playing prank on them, by giving them daft instructions.
It always pays to keep an eye on what the opposition are doing/saying:
I only contribute this link to expose the utter deceit and nonsense of the so-called, ‘Globalist’ following. Written by Denis MacShame (no, that is my interpretation. Whose he anyway?) UK’s Minister for Europe 2002-2005. “Didn’t he do well” Brucie –
https://www.theglobalist.com/united-kingdom-brexit-tories-eu-germany-france/
Astonishingly blatant, actually calling a website ‘The Globalist’ openly and without shame so people know what it is. It’s akin to kiddy fiddlers advertising their predilections on a website called ‘Paedo News.com’ (or bbc.co.uk/savile I suppose).
Plus there’s this as yet another attempt to sabotage:
http://www.politico.eu/article/return-of-the-restive-remainers/
“Attention is turning to Euratom, the EU’s nuclear energy union. The government wants to leave, but Starmer thinks the U.K. should stay in. So do several Tories.
Pro-EU MPs think it’s more “winnable” than membership of the EEA, and it would have major consequences. The European Court of Justice underpins Euratom. Staying in would cross a government negotiating red line, with implications for many other areas of the Brexit negotiation.”
the,
Do wanker Starmer and any of the Tories have any background in science ?
Grant, That’s irrelevant (like them).
the,
LOL !
Didn’t Gina Miller sort this out for us?
Remember as well that the Brexit referendum was advisory, not legally binding. Margaret Thatcher called referendums “a device of demagogues and dictators.” {theglobalist aug2017}
Protectionism for German manufacturing is working out well (Trade Surplus $294bn in 2016, largest in World)
And our eternal favorite overlord, the United States, isn’t singing the right gospel any longer either. Donald Trump’s protectionism runs counter to two centuries of British free trade philosophy.{theglobalist aug2017}
There’s much to admire about the German economy. But its massive trade surplus ($294bn) is not one of them {independent jul2017}
“German politicians often look on their large surplus with a sense of pride, seeing it as a symbol of national prudence and export success – but underconsumption is nothing to be proud of”
“German politicians often look on their large surplus with a sense of pride, seeing it as a symbol of national prudence and export success. Germany’s consensual post-war economic and political institutions do indeed deserve the world’s admiration. But its chronic underconsumption and large surpluses deserve to be buried, not praised.”
G you know anyway but
Denis MacShane was MP for Rotherham at the time of abuse until 2012
He knew nothing of the gangs and would have done something , but he was busy getting prosecuted for expenses fraud.
Sarah Champion took over as MP.
Never mind everybody – tonight we can all look forward to the following BBC delights:
BBC1 8.30 – an hour and a half drama about Damilola Taylor.
BBC2 8.30 – the ‘talented’ chef Nadiya, foraging in Scotland, telling how we should prepare our food!
Swarm,
Sorry but I shall be busy watching paint dry.
I’ve got the double Swarm. I’m painting and watching it dry so I can’t fail to miss it.
Is there where they tell us once again that he would have been a brain surgeon/astronaut/world leader if he hadn’t been cruelly taken from us?
He’d been in the country literally 3-4 months and was running with a pretty rough crowd. Amazing how his story is a shocking indictment of knife crime in the UK but not a reflection of knives and violence in the black community.
Payne
He would have been all three plus a scientist – how depressing that we will be never be free of this – it has been 17 years already!
Utterly disgraceful. The 3pm ‘news’ on ClassicFM, provided by Global, led with an item on the Barcelona outrage, in which a terrorism ‘expert’ stated that ‘regardless of whether a terrorist is a Muslim or a Christian…’. Quick, BBC team – get that man and put him on a speed-dial contract.
Ex Muslim speaks : “Don’t give up your freedom of speech”
Clever name ‘Antifa’.
It works like this:
1) Fascists are anybody they say, including sensible moderate folk who just want to preserve what’s left of Western civilisation, and/or stop mass migration and/or reclaim their sovereignty, and of course all Tory scum.
2) We all know that ‘fascists’ are ‘bad’.
3) Ergo anti-fascists must be ‘good’.
4) So in all demos, the violent hard left are never the bad guys, cos they’re the ‘good’ anti-fascists.
Simples.
And almost ALL the msm are falling for it, first and foremost our very own, very evil beebistan.
What’s a better name ?
Twin-fa ?
Projection-fa ?
BBC MO : immigrant does something wrong, hide it in LOCAL news
“a Filipino with British status” drove a car at 100mph in Wales and killed someone
victim was his Filipino friend.
Why were either of them living here ?
BTW activists are pressurising National Trust to ban Trail hunts on their property
by making out animals are involved
The hunters say no animals are involved they are just CHASING an artificial scent, rather than actual hunting.
I notice the North Korea nuclear threat to the USA has gone awfully quiet.
Would that be because of the Donald’s ‘over the top war mongering threat to NK?’ One would have to think so.
Jerry,
Trump called Kim’s bluff and the coward backed down. A bit like JFK with the Cuban missile crisis. Something that Lefties would prefer to forget !
Times Matt Ridley explains how the EU is anti-free trade
eg it’s coffee and orange tariifs make out food more expensive
Lefties are angry
And someone tweeted 3 parts of the article
Christoper Brooker: BBC’s version of Indian Partition is a disgrace
Same bloke has tweeted the article
(you can see it with a free Telegraph account anyway)
Not the Beeb, but dear God, just watching Kay Birley on Sky – having been sent to the States to ask people how ‘excited’ they are at the Eclipse; she surpassed herself in asking some chap “what will your emotions be ??” Sky must be awash with cash if they’ve sent her across the pond just for this inane reporting. Journalistic trash at its best.
Bris –
Sky was charging me £55 per month for their TVs. Then the box went wrong for the first time in 10 years and they wanted to charge £100 to fix it. I said “bye”. They ring me up every week to give it back at £23 a month for the same thing .
Moral – don’t be a loyal mug . It’s not my subs money any more so they can send Kay burley wherever they want .
I was tempted to introduce the sky bod to the tv licensing bod who is always telling me he’s going to be knocking on my door . Can’t wait.
If sky or al beeb could charge people to see the sky go dark they would . And blame Trump or brexit for it
No-one is forced on pain of imprisonment to pay for Sky .
Kay Birley just said she feels ‘weirdly excited’. Her heart is racing and her watch has stopped.
Comments?
Is she allowed to say that?
Hmm. I’m doubting myself now – perhaps she said ‘weirdly emotional’ – her heart is definitely racing though.
MSM bubbleworld
Weird that a journo Rachel Shabi I’ve never heard of, has an article in 2 different news papers today
#1 Guardian : The State is right to humanise Isis recruits. We need to understand
#2 Times The alt-left is an invention of rightwingers,
Someone replies
“2nd problem is whether those so casually referred to as far-right by Guardian-readers in any way resemble the NF or 1930s Nazism”
The reaction to the Woolwich murder denies British Muslims a political voice – Rachel Shabi
“Denying the right to discuss British foreign policy in the wake of the horrific murder in Woolwich is short-sighted and dangerous”
Corbynmania isn’t dangerous – there’s irony in those chants- Rachel Shabi
Voters are hungry for new politics – bring on a leftwing Brexit- Rachel Shabi
Momentum’s grassroots democracy can make Labour an unstoppable force- Rachel Shabi
What use is a group of cultish, Corbynista clicktivists? Quite a lot, actually- Rachel Shabi
What does Hope not Hate actually do?
See more Rachel Shabi @ Guardian.
Is this shabby Shabi inciting treason? . I understand that ISIS is a declared enemy of Blighty to it’s an offence to support it or its members .
Or maybe it’s that selective law enforcement with which we are so familiar .( Muslim child rape , incitement to murder soldiers , spreading poison on the internet and the rest).
The psychopaths are always very ordinary. Eichmann looked like a bank teller.
A little more information on the bBCs current version of Manuel:
Spain’s most wanted man shot dead by police whilst wearing suicide vest.
Pounce,
Wonderful news ! Rejoice ! The Canutes at the BBC will now go into a period of mourning ! Wankers.
We just need Lily Allen to apologise to his family for bombing his country, apologise for making it difficult for him to find peace and free money in the UK, apologise on behalf of the UK that he had no choice but to run people over etc.
Ever get the feeling the more experienced BBC staff bugger off for the school hols leaving things to the exchange students?
BBC Radio 4
“There’s no holes barred when you’re working with someone you love.”
Unless… it was meant that way and they are gunning for the GoT T&A crowd… on radio.
Guest,
For a Beeboid there are no holes barred !!!
No BBC bias but BBC stupidity…
Listening to Radio 4 about 4:40pm they were discussing the solar eclipse in the USA. The expert in the USA clearly described the different setups people had to view the eclipse.
Expert, “some people have £1000s of telescopes, some people have special eclipse viewing glasses. One person has a cardboard box with a pinhole showing great images. One young person said the eclipse currently looks like the Apple logo.”
Lady on Radio 4, “Ha ha great. Can you tell us what the eclipse currently looks like?”
How much does she get paid to ignore what was just said and just read the next question from the list?
Currently on a bBC HYS on PR Voting :
133. Posted by shadowfax on
43 minutes ago
To all the old people on here..
You’re out of touch, outdated, confused old fools. Bitter, twisted, hateful, prejudiced, bigoted, homophobic, racist. You represent a failed generation. You’ve made the world worse. We’re interested in the light of the future, not the dank, dreary past you represent.Your ways have failed. We want a better way. We dare to dream.
WE WANT CORBYN.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40998017
The irony, JC is 67
Translation…
“You represent a failed generation” in your two houses paid off along with huge savings and a pension after having worked hard all your lives.
“We’re interested in the light of the future” and don’t want to work for anything we want and we want everything now.
Pounce,
I wonder if the Police will be investigating that as Hate Crime ?
Grant,
How long do you think the bBC would have left that up if instead of old people it read Muslims.
Pounce ,
Ha ! I realise the Left is based on hatred but I do not see why they extend it to older people just because they are old. It seems to me that Lefties have to blame their own personal and collective failings on any scapegoat they can find . Childish and pathetic.
Pounce… how do you know JC’s IQ is 67?
Ian ,
LOL !!
If anyone missed the total eclipse thingy on tv the coverage by both al beeb and sky was awful . Kay burley was entertaining because I think she had had a long lunch …..
I saw it live in 1999 and the TV bods just couldn’t deal with it . They need to get back to slagging brexit , Trump , Blighty and whitee. They’re much happier doing that.
I think they needed to rehearse it
Fedup,
Don’t worry. Another one will come along in a few years.
Did the BBC spin it so this eclipse is for everyone or is it for a minority group?
I also saw the 1999 one in the UK and I remember that one was witnessed by many heterosexuals so we must must be due to have an eclipse just for transgender persons. Can I still say ‘persons’?
Ian wrote:
Pounce… how do you know JC’s IQ is 67?
Because Diane Abbott came out with those figures.
Pounce,
She got her numbers wrong again. She meant 69 .
Judging by his sums during the election campaign I doubt that’s even accurate.
“Hugs and defiance at Las Ramblas.”
Nothing says defiance like a hug.