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A chap on Julia Hartley Brewers Talk Radio show has said that the modus operandi of this sort of attack (Parsons Green) is most likely to be salifist as white supremacists don’t generally try to injure and kill innocent people and kids. He almost said Islamist/Islamic several times but then changed it to salifist!
Good old Julia singlehandedly told the Question Time gombeen last night that-yet again-she was the only Brexiteer on his panel.
Oh dear-odor eaters seemd not to be working in the BBC Cathedral eh Sir Dumble?
Did he not like that?-no he didn`t, but yes we can…er…
Dimbly rather thought she`d been on with Farage-but he knew that was unlikely to be true.
You do wonder where that 52% of us have gone-sure as hell, we never see them on the telly in anything but a minority ,”accused in the dock” kind of way.
Will Self certainly met his match. He is way out of her league.
Wasn’t it delightful Chris.
Good lass our Julia.
i know this is paranoid but this Parson’s Green attack is different to the usual Islamic attacks as there was a timer on the device , so there was no suicide element. But I agree it is highly unlikely to be afaright attack as it was indiscriminate and I think that the far right would be selective in whom they tried to murder . So if it isn’t either of the above who could be behind it? Well the device only partially worked and so injured people ( let’s hope not too badly and that all make a full and speedy recovery) rather than blew them to bits. Perhaps this was deliberate and the device was not supposed to cause life threatening injuries. Perhaps some group is trying to create a false flag incident here , saying it can’t be Islamist because no Alan’s snack bar chanting , no suicide element so it MUST be far right. Now who would want to do that? Perhaps the government knows the answer.
i know this is paranoid but this Parson’s Green attack is different to the usual Islamic attacks as there was a timer on the device , so there was no suicide element
Bomb makers sometimes equip their devices with backup timers in case the would-be martyr gets cold feet and decides he’s not really ready to meet the 72 virgins.
Apparently this was a new design of train without doors segretating the carriages, allowing the fireball to travel the length of the train. See, if they had segregated carriages (i.e. to “discourage” certain rapists) this would have been less of a problem! Joking, but wouldn’t surprise me if the bBBC enablers jump on this.
All part and parcel of living in a city with a Muslim Mayor.
Manchester doesn’t, didn’t help.
Well, Theresa May has sprung into immediate action and called a meeting of COBRA. She’s also made a statement that said…oh, I don’t know something like “unacceptable…blah, blah, we shall not be divided, blah, standing together…”
No doubt she’ll be outside number 10 making the sort of resolute, defiant, steely speech she’s become famous for.
And there was me fretting.
Phew…
We’ve reached the stage of ‘more of enough is more of enough’ now? 🙁
Lessons will be learned.
My oh my!
Is it just me or is anybody else sick to the back teeth of listening to idiots peddling the false narrative that the motivation of the terrorist is to create division?
That is just complete and utter bollards!
They want to kill us end of!
They couldn’t give a monkeys if we all stand together, die together-they just want us dead. They are not trying to cause division they are carrying out their gods wishes as told by their prophet!
When are these fools going to wake up!
No, it isn’t just you.
We were divided from the outset. The problem is that the distance isn’t great enough. Around 6,000 miles would suit me.
Comments by the Government and the MSM serve no useful purpose whatsoever. The security services do their best but they are firefighting. The Government has no medium/long term solution whatsoever because that would involve having to accept what the problem really is.
Noted the BBCs live feed getting told to get out of the way ceaselessly by the police as an ambulance tried to get past. But the feitsy gobby poppet seemed to think that their instructions were for the lower orders and not for the BBC staff-even semi-detached ethnic birds with a smartphone who were filiming and gabbling as if they had something to say.
Nasty crap-this “BBC entitlement”-this “let the story be ours thank you very much” this “you uniformed fascists might want to shout-but THE PEOPLE out there must hear from me” has got to stop.
BBC Live is a musing embarrassment at such times, and people can be hurt or delayed as the studio, more senior poppet drones on for titbits to shaft the Tories or ensure that Islam stays sacred and sacrosanct-just like live BBC output.
Crick crap…doorstopping scum for their liberal musings and selfies…fup off BBC again willya?
A suggestion for May …. “Enough is enough!” then May could have continued with “…for the all those killed by Terrorist Attacks (read out name, age, has kids, has partner, nationality and aspirations for live) we are taking 1,000 tracked, and hostile to our nation, terrorists from our watch list and deporting them now, today, under the rule of law. We will do this every month until our terrorist watch list is at a manageable level and to ensure your Taxes are not paying for their hostile way of life. We cannot bring the dead back, but we can honour them by reducing the chance of attacks on the living and the relatives of those lost.”
On a side note, I think the national news papers should show the pictures of all terrorist attack victims until 6 months go by without an attack happening.
A constant reminder of the fallen – who didn’t even choose the battle in which they died.
We are divided actually – those who spout the mantra of ‘we shall not be divided’, and those who feel that they should all be rounded up and put in holding camps where its decided who stays and who are put on the first plane back to an Islamic country. The NHS existed long before they arrived, they did not invent the corner shop, and think of all the housing developments that could be created on the grounds of the demolished mosques !!!! Let them all have an entrepreneurial life where religion is the number one in their life – not this country.
You are quite right.
They blow us up with bombs, and we respond with a mass rendition of “Don’t Look Back in Anger.”
Which side is going to win?
It’s Western attrition, death by a thousand cuts. The Westminster attack murdered lovely ordinary citizens who were productive and could build a great future, a police officer who was good at their job. The Manchester attack murdered children and made everyone paranoid, but unable to see or identify the enemy.
80 Million people believe what this guy says below and the current Labour leader went to protests that promote his beliefs (Al Quds {wiki}) without the Labour Leader questioning the ideology behind it, just so he could communicate and talk with them …
“Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious.”
—Ayatollah Khomeini, jan1980 (80 million Muslim people follow this man’s beliefs and ideas in 2017).
When Souad, the Palestinian survivor of an attempted honor killing, was flown to Switzerland, she was shocked to find females dressing as they wished, smiling and laughing without being punished, and having people actually say “thank you” to her — which had not happened once in her entire life in Palestinian society. {iwatw.com sep2010}
BBC bias can take several forms; one being employment bias. Just watched (only for a little while), 12.00 Daily Politics. The female Asian presenter, is clearly not upto the job. Well below standard. The bias to employ those who tick boxes, as opposed those capable of doing the job in full view.
The new Friday Daily Politics Asian presenter is an improvement on Jo Coburn .Early days but Jo Coburn was never any good from day one.Coburn is a producer not a presenter.
At least with employment bias for PC reasons the bias is transparent with nepotism it is often disguised.
Jo Coburn`s mother was a significant BBC figure.Many people do not realize that who may wonder how did Jo get her job
Only wish I could lay a bet on how long “Sir” Peter Hall will be getting on Last Word later today.
My guess is at least 15 minutes with the “promise” of another couple of luvvie fests we`ll be paying for.
Clear the Lords-Lord this, Baroness that-all in line at the old duds bier to lay the flummery on with a trowel(how working clars what, wot?). Hall is the cultural endoscope that reveals all the rectal polyps of the liberal arts establishment as funded by we drips-and since the mid 50s as well.
That man is the cultual Roy Jenkins-never actually FOUGHT a war in his life, but was always folded away like a ragged standard to show where the wars were fought…and where we the people lost every damned time.
Everything about this polyglot, polymath, polly dolly fakir reeks of entitlement and the death of what this country needs to have been.
Pretension…snobbery for the elites…turning Macbeth into a devolution tract…grabbing the public purse by rights to enrich his cronies and himself with his varied families…libertine nastiness where plays used to be…giving us that National Theatre shite block on the end of Waterloo Bridge?
And not even being an actor like Olivier or Gielgud? But a poncing director who knew where the gold seams were, and met a working class chappie in Suffolk late in laife when he realised that there used to be a country and folk tradition before he shafted Whitehouses and Thatchers at our expense-never his own?
Yep-at LEAST fifteen minutes fof this diabolic fake, like James Galway playing a kazoo, a pied pipe or a bleeding crack pipe…its what “The Good Outlaw Pete” does!
The cultural equivalent of bloody Roy Jenkins…as he did to politics, so Hall has done to the arts.
“I am become death” to both…no wonder the BBC loved this Satanic spongebag with a goatee!
As for a REAL Peoples hero like Don Williams? Let alone that poor girl killed by that Mark Buckby scum in Salford yesterday?…well, no comment or a drive by about a gypsy woman and the love of the travelling community implied….fuck the BBC!
Nah-never cared for the poltroon at all!
Only wish it had been Sir Tony in a BOGOF offer from Hades….
Peter Hall did not come from a privileged background.
I know that Clare, just feel that he rolled out the cloth cap , only after his kind had trashed all that their parents had sacrificed for.
No opera take on Akenfied was there?…juts the BBC paying for his endless home movies by then.
No disrespect intended either-not personal, simply I`m cheesed off when the luvvies inflate their Pilsbury Doughmen on my forecourt and expect me to worship.
It`s what Hall stands for-and his record of turning the public funded arts of this country into a liberal milch cow whose consequences are now becoming all too apparent.
Consider me still in mourning for Don Williams, who my parents used to love…a real gent.
Sorry, too many generalisations, but that’s just my opinion.
He did some very good work indeed at the (unsubsidised) Glyndebourne Festival, survived the notoriously tough Metropolitan Opera in NY as well as other US opera houses, and Bayreuth with Georg Solti, who did not suffer fools gladly.
Not sure why it’s necessary to look so far afield to Don Williams. Plenty of world class, down-to-earth performers here such as Thomas Allen and John Tomlinson.
Not saying we don’t have a problem in the arts, and in drama in particular, Emma Rice at the Globe being a recent example, but I think the arts would be more representative if people prised themselves away from 10th rate entertainment on their TVs, and took an interest. At the moment, the field is left wide open and makes it easy for the types you despise (which I don’t entirely disagree with) to flourish.
A tour de force of an obit. I salute you. Perhaps a trifle harsh but maybe not
The poor girl murdered was Ellen Higginbottom, who was murdered in Wigan by some scum called Mark Buckley-yet another death to be laid at the feet of Roy Jenkins who took away our chance to kill bastards like this.
Some idiot on Talk Radio now thinks we have accepted that these things happen-that terrorists just want attention!
People are now accepting that nothing can be done by saying ‘part and parcel’, but reducing the terror watch list is a start. If it turns out that this is Islamic related then all Mosques to be inspected by Government bodies for literature that is against equality and rule of law ….
Brave girl speaks out in 2017 “I myself am a Muslim…I’m also a realist, there is an Elephant in the room here…we have Saudi trained clerics coming in (to the Mosques) speaking to children as young as seven … I would say, for now stop, close down all Saudi financed Mosques.” [BBC Question Time 25May2017 @47m12s]
“I would say, for now stop, close down all Saudi financed Mosques” – one possible solution that might reduce the part and parcel with fatalities?
In the four European countries most targeted by terror attacks — Britain, France, Belgium and Germany — the number of official extremists has reached 66,000. That sounds like a real army — on active duty. {.gatestoneinstitute.org}
Similar bloke appeared on R5 before 11am
South African accent
Said partnparcel so 5 Live should not even be mentioning the event.
Swedish politician Patrik Liljeglod ‘raped for his beliefs’
Naturally, he’s a left-wing politician.
The BBC web pages are going to be full of Swedish rape stories if they are now reporting all ideologically-motivated rapes there.
That’s nothing. My entire country is being raped. By an Establishment that holds similar views to this Swede. Aided and abetted by millions of invaders imported from the Third World.
“What’s the solution? If Muslim people are in the wrong and they are committing crimes… you know, no one is above the law.” – Stacey Dooley
“If the law of the land is Islamic, we will respect the law of the land. If it’s not Islamic (the law) then the law of the land, and those who make them, can go to hell quite honestly.” – Anjhem Chordary
“Oh my God!” – Stacey Dooley
“Because Allah says in the Koran Q33v1 ‘Fear Allah, and do not obey the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Is David Cameron a Muslim of a disbeliever? Guys?” – Anjhem Chordary
“Disbeliever!” – mumbles crowd of 5 other Muslims
“So you (a Muslim) can’t obey him. So he (David Cameron) can go to hell.” – Anjhem Chordary
We chose not to listen….
Even as we speak I can envisage the BBC and CNN organising a group of Muslims to appear in a faked protest, just in case it was a Muslim attack yet again and they finally have to admit it.
As for the Salafi angle, it’s a welcome change after all the noise I’ve been making about it, and it is completely unacceptable that the government keeps talking about ‘moderate Muslims’ whilst doing absolutely nothing about the Salafi extremist ones. If there is more talk about Salafism then it’s a good thing for the country, because with Salafism comes a lot of the undesirable things about Islam most ordinary people don’t like, such as Sharia courts, Facial coverings, and terrorism. What is less well known is the pressure they are putting on the more moderate Muslims not to speak out against them, often aided and abetted by the Fascist Left.
Take a look at the story of Amina Lone, a Labour councillor who did speak out and was sacked from the Labour party for doing so, with precious little mainstream media coverage to help her cause.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-labour-party-hit-back-13570626
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41280080
It’s a shame that links to paedophiles didn’t close down the BBC!
Are we jumping to conclusions over the tube bomb? Surely the most likely perpetrators are National Action, that infamous white supremacist terror group? The police thought they’d rounded up all these white terrorists from the British Army but must have missed some.
I’m sure your train of thought is being replicated in the BBC’s offices as we speak.
Apparently the bomb was in a carrier bag from the sort of supermarket that sells cheap baked beans, 2″ thick pineapple pizzas, fish fingers, and tacky clothing which you pull out of a large bin on the floor. The container itself was described as a “builder’s bucket”.
So there you have it. The bomber was a working class moron who has a name like “Bob”, eats junk food, has dreadful taste, wears a vest as an outergarment, and probably has dried cement on his boots. He voted for Brexit and almost certainly has a Nazi tattoo on his neck.
Can we ban Direct National Action Express once more-so this sortat`ing won`t happen again.
I`ve done my bit-covered “The Art Of The Deal” in brown paper, so I have.
I`m feeling awful divided by this paint pot explosion….dare I get marigold next time?
Where on the Dulux scale do we stand?….funnily enough Islamic Green is not an option on my rainbow chart of loveliness.
Also the supermarket that photoshopped crosses off the top of greek churches, and allowed a muslim checkout person to avoid serving alcohol
That’s certainly the message I took from the mainstream media last week – National Action white supremacists present the greatest threat to our way of life here in the UK today.
At the moment they are saying they don’t know if the bomber was Islam, animal rights or far right.
I wonder what odds you could get on each of these groups which appear to be getting equal blame.
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Parsons Green bomb. All part of the price that ordinary people are paying because of the politicians obsession with filling the Country with as many Muslims as possible.
Can we please have no more sympathetic platitudes from the people who have got us in this mess and that certainly includes Mrs. Merkel. If they have not the ideas or the will to sort this out then can they just shut the f^@k up. You simply cannot take them seriously when they spout this pseudo emotive language.
And Junkman Junker’s aim is to bring more migrants to Europe – because its an ageing Continent !!!! He’s not bothered – he’s not going to be around to see the mass call to prayers on a Friday in decades to come.
Google ‘mosque luxembourg’ {googlemaps}
Association Islamique Le Juste Milieu (LJM) Asbl
Association Islamique de Luxembourg
Centre Islamique à Luxembourg
Islamic Cultural Center of Luxembourg
Association Islamique et Culturelle du Sud Asbl
Mosquée Et-Tawhid de Longwy
London (446), Birmingham (162), Bradford (91), Leicester (73), Manchester (64), Blackburn (45), Sheffield (37), Glasgow (32), Dewsbury (31), Oldham (30), Bolton (29), Nottingham (28), Luton (25), Leeds (25), Preston (24), Walsall (21), Edinburgh (21), Cardiff (20), Bristol (20) {mosques.muslimsinbritain.org}
These sexist man bastards – bomb was planted by a ‘man’ – here they go jumping to conclusions and generalising!!!!!!
What about the other 71 genders.
It could have been any….thing?
It was a man who used to be a woman wearing a burka.
72 virgins, 71 Genders.
1 real virgin + 71 virgins* with alternative genders
* virgins can be male or female on request
** all terms apply
*** number of virgins may go up or down depending on demand
**** early adopters will be guaranteed virgins but due to society changes this cannot be guaranteed
Does anyone else think their beards look like pubic hair?
I was driving past our local school yesterday and noticed that many of the children had hair styles like Kim Jong-Un. It looked rather odd on the children with long black beards
According to President Trump The Parsons Green terrorist was in the sights of Scotland Yard
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Another attack in London by a loser terrorist.These are sick and demented people who were in the sights of Scotland Yard. Must be proactive!
11:42 AM – Sep 15, 2017
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And that’s why we call him The Dustbyn.
People are reading this as ‘Trump wants to ban the internet’ instead of ‘cut off terrorists using the internet’.
Weird how people twist words … Trump should take a bit more care with words … see if you can find both suggestions ….
Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
Loser terrorists must be dealt with in a much tougher manner.The internet is their main recruitment tool which we must cut off & use better!
Swedish politician Patrik Liljeglod ‘raped for his beliefs’ {bbc.co.uk 15sep2017}
A Swedish politician has revealed on Facebook that he was raped by a knife-wielding attacker because of his political leanings.
Patrik Liljeglod is a group leader of the Left Party, in the city of Falun.
– Attacked for his political beliefs which can be talked about, but not religious beliefs. A story to watch …
Yesterday : Bob Stewart MP
“My son’s teacher told the other pupils not to talk to him, cos his father is a Tory MP”
Said he didn’t report the teacher cos son begged him not to.
Theresa May like a hostage ‘handcuffed to a radiator in Beirut’ over Brexit, Sir Vince Cable says
No, you bloody fool, Theresa May is like a hostage ‘handcuffed to a radiator in Beirut’ over immigration.
She did nothing about it and hasn’t a clue how to tackle the consequences except to say that we should put a stop to “hate”, which is provoking terrorism – on TV about 10 minutes ago.
Hostage? Handcuffed? Beirut? Three things not related to Brexit.
Sir Vince said the second vote should be seen as a “first referendum on the facts”. – Call a second referendum, but call it the first referendum, but Vince Cable won’t tell us what the agreed facts are yet?
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Vince Cable: Theresa May’s Tory conference speech “could have been taken out of Mein Kampf” {newstatesman – 2017 – paywall}
So how did he react to his former cabinet colleague Theresa May condemning “citizens of nowhere” in her Conservative conference speech last year?
“I thought that particular phrase was quite evil. It could’ve been taken out of Mein Kampf,” he replies. “I think that’s where it came from, wasn’t it? ‘Rootless cosmopolitans’? It was out of character for her.” – Vince Cable
So Vince Fable is comparing Eurosceptic MPs to Lebanese Muslim terrorists?
Does that mean he thinks Muslim terrorists are bad then?
When I go to Katie Hopkins twitter it get links to Guardian Advert at the top … Look out, America! Here comes Katie Hopkins with her London-loathing hate speech {theguardian 23mar2017}
Is there any animal, vegetable or mineral less London than Katie Hopkins? There are bits of the Outer Hebrides that have more of the capital to them than Katie, with her dull, self-satirising snobberies and clear sense that the city – perhaps all cities – are a joke in which no one cares to include her.
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To read Katie Hopkins is to know that she would have disagreed with the Enlightenment if she thought there was a Loose Women appearance in it. She writes like a not-very-bright sixth former trying to ape the prose style of Tony Parsons – no argument, just a portentous moodboard. Her Westminster article reads like a series of Google calendar reminders to herself. “Shots fired. An Asian man rushed to hospital. And I grew colder. And more tiny.”
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Yes, in a sledgehammer irony that will nonetheless have escaped her, Abu Hopkins detests the liberalism of the city. A serial preacher of hate, she speaks of humans as cockroaches, and of non-military matters in terms of struggle and war. “We stand divided,” she tweeted at Sadiq Khan, “cowed by your religion.” She now seeks to demonise London among her faithful, calling for an end to its degenerate values in the most apocalyptic terms she can muster.
Fortunately – and I hardly need to state this – she will get about as far with such smallness as she will with breaking America. Devon’s loss remains the capital’s gain. For all the tragedies and assaults enfolded into its history, London is a city that will never be so defeated as to have the time to explain itself to Katie Hopkins.
Well that Guardian advert is just paid for trolling
Why ? cos it shows an image of Hopkins & Farage with the words “Alt-Right” over them.
They are not Alt-Right, never described themselves as Alt-right so the Guardian’s label is defamation.
Pleased to admit that the atrocity on the Underground has only just come to my attention via a news alert from Westmonster. No BBC news watched/listened to since 1800 yesterday. I also admit to possessing a sneaky curiosity as to whether the BBC are narrating the, ‘developing situation’ with repeats of the terminology used in all the previous atrocities earlier this year. Tedious, but then, until they start calling a ‘spade a spade’ for what it is, ISLAM, there’s little point in following the BBC I’ll simply look forward to the round of flowers, teddy-bears etc and, inevitability of: “we will not be divided”. I had always thought that you had to be a part of a cohesive ‘whole’ to run the risk of being divided. But there, who knows these days. Innit.
what odds has paddy power got on it being a
muslimmentally ill norwegianThe BBC diversity story is now being spun as “too much middle class”
Surely too much “muddle class”
What the BBC is not diversity of race, colour, gender, background or disability , but of THOUGHT and POLITICS.
Anyone can the bbc2 repeat of Sweet Sixteen: A Transgender Story ?
… 1:45am this morning
BBC-tickbox-thinking
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08qh5v7
Become a ‘transgender’ and you get a story and a BBC show and attention. Stay normal and you get ignored and told that you’re just normal. Transgender? Normal? Attention? No Attention?
This intimate and candid coming-of-age film follows a Welsh transgender teenager, Llyr Jones, as she turns 16. As she moves from childhood to adulthood, Llyr’s understanding of herself crystallises and she begins to explore the new possibilities of adulthood and identity. {bbc.co.uk 15sep2017}
The programme explores how Llyr’s transition is breaking new ground in a traditional area dominated by farming.
May rebukes Trump for comments on ongoing investigation. One of these has their eyes shut and the other one has their eyes open. Now lets see children, any idea which is which.
Vote Prime Minister Trump. Make Britain Great Again.
Or PM Farage
London Times: “The knifeman mentioned Allah as he attacked, according to police, suggesting that it was another Islamist-inspired assault in the French capital. ”
Soldier overpowers knife attacker on Paris Metro {thetimes – 15sep2017 – paywall}
– Mentioned? Quietly whispered? Softly mentioned? Mentioned in passing whilst attacking the police?
– Suggesting? Might have been related? Not really sure?
– Dear Times, just like the BBC, please find the facts and report them … shout is not mention, Allah is Islamic, attacking the police has happened before …
// source was jihadwatch-15sep2017-comment-by-Anne
Marky, have you heard the old Lulu hit record.
I think it’s called ‘mention’ or something like that.
BBC Panorama Special next week.
‘Enough is Enough”.
No, not really….
First, I have one bit of advice for the Home Secretary: please be very careful about language. Many people feel alienated by talk of “stamping out” and “enough is enough”. {theyworkforyou.com – Terror Attacks – 22jun2017}
-Barry Sheerman Labour/Co-operative, Huddersfield
…. later in the conversation …
Two members of my immediate family were present at the Manchester Arena bombing, and my contempt for that bomb is heightened by the fact that this was not a thrash metal gig; it was Ariana Grande, and the targets were little girls. Does the Home Secretary share my concern about the continuing presence of far-right hate preachers in organisations such as the English Defence League, and does she agree that we ought to be tightening up on some of their activities as well, in order to prevent further Islamophobia?
– Chris Matheson Labour, City of Chester
– See where Chris Matheson (Labour, City of Chester) went here?
– Manchester Arena bombing … EDL … Islamophobia in one paragraph.
Marky
Do they really believe the crap that they are coming out with? Honestly?
I find it hard to comprehend how someone could be that deluded.
Lobster, it is very tiring but these are the people we have chosen to lead and govern us.
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You start with letter A in the alphabet, you talk about letter B and then you mention numbers and end up at 2 million. Logic would take you to letter Z … but 2 million is more impressive.
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One need not swallow such absurdities as this, but one ought to recognise that the present political chaos is connected with the decay of language, and that one can probably bring about some improvement by starting at the verbal end. If you simplify your English, you are freed from the worst follies of orthodoxy. You cannot speak any of the necessary dialects, and when you make a stupid remark its stupidity will be obvious, even to yourself.
Political language — and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists — is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. One cannot change this all in a moment, but one can at least change one’s own habits, and from time to time one can even, if one jeers loudly enough, send some worn-out and useless phrase — some jackboot, Achilles’ heel, hotbed, melting pot, acid test, veritable inferno, or other lump of verbal refuse — into the dustbin where it belongs.
Politics and the English Language
Lobster,
They don’t believe it any more than we do. But they are venal politicians and having a large Muslim vote in Huddersfield they are just trying to buy votes. The fact that they are helping our enemies is of no concern to them.
Appeasement = Incitement = Criminal.
so Bataclan was okay then , it was only metal heads
Good point. Missed that one.
Another atrocity. The BBc drones decide to discuss Police funding.
End of BBC Article “BBC News presenter Sophie Raworth said she saw a woman on a stretcher with burns to her face and legs. {bbc.co.uk – sep2017}”
– Why mention BBC person’s name? It mentioned burns at top of article ‘Twenty-two people are being treated in hospital, mostly for burn injuries.’. Was she a reliable witness? Is she a suspect? Did she add to the story?
Yep. BBC News today, not too subtly, blamed this ‘incident’ on Torycuts 🙁
Dal Babu (Former Superintendent ) just interviewed. We don’t know if it’s the “far right” or an islamist group. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/feb/04/senior-asian-policeman-quits-met
.. UK ..
But Babu said there was a lack of will to change within the police service. During his time as a middle-ranking officer he has pursued several initiatives which have been seen to help – including increasing the number of Muslim officers in the counter-terrorism unit from eight out of 2,500 to 35 under commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson. {guardian feb2013}
.. USA ..
On November 5, 2009, a mass shooting took place at Fort Hood, near Killeen, Texas.[1] Nidal Hasan, a U.S. Army major and psychiatrist, fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others {wiki}
“Hasan had then gone around behind the desk and bowed his head for several seconds when he suddenly stood up, shouted “Allahu Akbar!” and opened fire”
US Army names Muslim chaplain spiritual leader of 14,000 mostly Christian soldiers {jihadwatch feb2017}
“Army Lt. Col. Khallid Shabazz, a Muslim chaplain, has accepted the job of handling the spiritual affairs of 14,000 mostly Christian soldiers.”
.. GERMANY ..
Arrested German spy was a onetime gay porn actor — and a secret Islamist {washingtonpost nov2016}
“BERLIN — Two weeks ago, German intelligence agents noticed an unusual user in a chat room known as a digital hideout for Islamic militants. The man claimed to be one of them — and said he was a German spy. He was offering to help Islamists infiltrate his agency’s (In April 2016, the man began working for the BfV, assigned to monitoring potentially violent Islamists in Germany.) defenses to stage a strike.
If it is proclaimed to be a far right group, I will never believe them, and it is their fault for lying and obfuscating to us so much over the past few years.
If it is proclaimed to be a far right group, I will never believe them, and it is their fault for lying and obfuscating to us so much over the past few years.
Is there a second bomb at Parsons Green, as the Express reports?
Meanwhile the BBC’s girl, Appeasing Treezer, prefers to rebuke Trump for tweeting rather than express concern for British people having their faces blown off.
Come on Tory Party – sack this buffoon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41283984
link to Express report
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/854509/London-tube-explosion-Parsons-Green-terror-bomb-explosion
G.W.F.
Cause?
Too many illegal immigrants getting into the country.
We need tighter immigration and deportation laws .
Remind me, who was our Home Secretary for the last 6 years? Perhaps the Tory party is
full of buffoons .
So we get the mass-murdering type and we still get the murderous car type –
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/854674/edward-harris-death-kamran-raja-driving-crash-jail
Repeat no insurance, no licence offences and this Audi S4 driving (sic) personal trainer at several Manchester gyms, aka Jihadist training sheds, drives at 80mph in a 40 mph zone and mows down an innocent old boy going about his business.
He has such a winsome smile for his mugshot.
Bastard.
Being a mother or a father, however, means that you have a very real stake in the future of the country you lead. Europe’s most important leaders leave no children behind. {gatestoneinstitute may2017}
…
Yet the fact is that, with the arrival of President Macron in the charmed circle, the leaders of Europe’s biggest economies and of all the European members of the G7 are childless: Germany’s Angela Merkel, Britain’s Theresa May, Italy’s Paolo Gentiloni, and now France’s Macron.
{steynonline may2017}
The key line from America Alone is: “The future belongs to those who show up.” {amazon}
– And it would seem that our Western Leaders don’t want any of their family to show up for the future.
Hello again,
I got so depressed here as Fedup that I withdrew from the site but have been reading comments .i found my views were becoming so strong that by writing those thoughts here about remedying the wrongs done to this country I might trip over the “hate” laws or defamation in doing so. I would – in al Beeb speak – be described as ‘extreme’ So I censored myself because we can only vent here up to a limit . I can feel the eyes of the State looking at us all.
Anyway let’s hope there are no more IEDs on the underground or anywhere else – on Battle of Britain Day – or all days. Strange that the Parsons Green device went off at exactly the same time as the first 7/7 device. Co incidence not doubt.
Good point. Worth showing a list of previous attacks referenced by day and religious festival. Always a Friday at certain time?
So the police have identified a terror attack suspect from CCTV.
Will they publish it to warn the public and help capture him? Course not, he’s probably got a beard and we wouldn’t want any ethnic stereotyping, would we?
His ‘rights’ trump whitie’s every time.
Now, anyone for a quick round of Imagine? That’ll show ’em we mean business. Maybe Cat Stevens could lead it, remember him? Who supported the fatwa on Rushdie and wanted him burnt, as well as the book.
What a lovely ‘religion’ eh? Still, at least it shut up Cat for a few years – music’s evil, you see.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4470415/parsons-green-terror-bombing-station-suspect-police-search-latest
If you are interested in buying the BBC’s Science magazine with its fluffy Cox like science
The email from Manchester Science festival has a promo for 5 issues for £5
Make sure you cancel the direct debit after that
In the early 80s I had cause to support a couple of University chemistry students who were victims of Thalidomide.
Boy, they were game. Doing chemistry practicals with deformed (or no) arms was no easy task and I was happy to assist. More tan that. It was a complete pleasure.
Fast forward to 2017. On biased BBC weather forecasts we have, increasingly prominently, one Lisa Martin, quite attractive, who has no right arm below the elbow joint. Now from a personal point of view, good luck to her, overcoming a considerable disability to rise up the ranks.
But she stands ( or is told to stand) with her ‘bad arm’ facing the camera, just so the viewer totally ‘gets it’, and her delivery is rather flat and unimaginative.
I cannot help but think that this is yet another deliberate bBBC positive discrimination virtue-signalling ploy Are there absolutely no weather forecasters better than her? Or were disabled weather forecasters previously ‘under-rpresented’?
Until now, that is.
Sluff, I await with interest the debut of a newsreader who has a cleft palate !
Sluff
It’s the same with Watchdog having that presenter who is in a wheelchair. She is absolutely dire – constantly fluffing her lines. I have no problem whatsoever with disabled people being on tv IF they can do the job – after all, Roosevelt was a successful President DESPITE being in a wheelchair, not BECAUSE of being in one.
Following this morning’s bomb attack, I saw them wheel on their ‘gardener’ to state the bleeding obvious on ‘security’.
Their so called ‘Security Expert’ made some silly immature comments about the I. E. D.
What the heck does he know about security?
The benefits of multiculturalism …………………..
“Chilean gang jailed over 14 burglaries in three months”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-41281783
No doubt they will spent a few years in Hotel ‘Jail’ at our cost and looked after by Human Rights Laws.
In another fit of masochism, I was listening to ‘The News Quiz’ this evening ( I know, I know…)
Anyway for the first time I can recall, a couple of the hilarious panelists lifted the veil of secrecy and told us their actual political beliefs. Wow – what would they be? You will be unsurprised to learn that funnyman Andy Hamilton voted remain. Then the further bombshell out of (very) left field is that some American comedienne (she’d hate that description) I’d never heard of had voted for Hillary. Wowsers!!
Yes, just in the interest of balance, why can’t they find some right-leaning guests for once….oh, I know, those ones keep their heads down for fear of reprisals from the twitter/libmob. eg James Woods was getting a twitter bashing recently as he spoke his mind about a new release film about a homosexual relationship between a 24yr & 17yr old. Hopefully he doesn’t care and won’t be silenced.
Hooray for Jack Dee;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/12/jack-dee-left-wing-comics-should-keep-politics/
And this, is how it works….
It appears that we are back to ‘stacked’ audiences for Any Questions on BBC Radio 4.
I find it surprising that Dorchester has an anti-Brexit, anti-Conservative, anti-Trump audience, anti-etc, etc., etc..
(Just after I post: usual Disclaimer from Dimbleby – wonder if he had a red face – he certainly must have had his fingers crossed behind his back.)
Tempted to stop paying TV License and have a honesty money box next to TV. If I watch a BBC programme I drop a pound in. If the bbc lie I take a pound out and drop a note into the box. End of year bbc get whats in the box … money or lies?
MarkyMark
If you haven’t already, sign here……………………..
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/end-the-bbc-licence-fee
Every little helps !
Signed and shared to FB.
This is why the BBC go to ex-grammar schools and go-ahead colleges in order to blag their libfests-ensures the public sector get all the tickets, unions and teachers in particular.
And tentative conservative views usually get some of Corbyns doughnuts around them these days.
Just as well it`s not telly eh?
Still though-that first question on what to do about attacks like Parsons Green?
Did you sense that none of them have an answer or a clue.
They caused all this-so apart from a few plastic plod and Vince being sniffy at Heathrow when the jihadist return from Syria? None of them had a clue…guess we`ve now got used to it, but they`re stumped. clueless and seek a mosque to wrap them in clingfilm and play dead.
Not even HEARD the words Muslim, Islam today regarding all this.
They`ve given up.
Breaking news – Threat level raised from ‘Severe’ to ‘Critical’ .
And the Backlash Threat Level creeps up to 2.
1.Fat chance
2.Once in a blue moon
3.Rude words
4.Bacon Rashers
5.Pork chops
6.Maybe
7.Mañana
8.You reap what you sow
“OOCL Hong Kong: Felixstowe Port welcomes ‘World’s biggest ship”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-suffolk-40362922/oocl-hong-kong-felixstowe-port-welcomes-world-s-biggest-ship
Big trade with the world ! What we need now is a bigger Royal Navy to proptect our shipping trade, not the European Union ‘Navy’.
theisland
Too true.
Message to Mrs May – We are in island nation , we neglect our navy at our peril !
Use Foreign Aid money to build up our armed forces . Get a grip or invite the ‘Mogginator’ to take over.
There are also concerns highlighted by Veterans for Britain, Richard Kemp and others that civil servants in Whitehall and Brussels and the MOD have signed up post-Brexit to a variety of EU defence agreements.
http://richard-kemp.com/britain-taking-back-control-defence-not-surrendering-brussels/
“Since November last year, five months after we voted to leave the EU, Britain has fully signed up to five separate EU Council agreements which frame a defence union.”
This is not getting much coverage, but looks serious.
Meanwhile in other news http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/01/old-fashioned-white-helmets-display-team-wound-army-looks-promote/
Dave666
The Red Arrows next ?
Possibly.
BBC’s website tells us:
British Prime Minister Theresa May has rebuked US President Donald Trump for suggesting suspects in Friday’s London train blast were known to police.
“I never think it’s helpful for anybody to speculate on what is an ongoing investigation,” she said.
So where does Mrs May ‘rebuke’ Trump?
Maybe she is talking about the BBC which has, (as usual), been speculating all day.
Lucy Pevensey
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39361079
“part and parcel” of life in a global city.
I see ‘we just haven’t got a clue what to do’ criticising Donald Trump for his most sensible intervention in the recent attack and reported with glee by the biased BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41283984
Not quite sure what this has to do with Canada., nor am I sure why ‘we just haven’t got a clue what to do’ isn’t a member of the Labour party.
Diane Abbot on Channel 4 biased news saying “it is wrong to speculate”, come on then who the feck do you think planted the bomb, Budhists?
In Flabbots case she probably thinks it’s the Quakers.
Well, she does seem to have porridge for brains. And Jezza got his oats there…
Diane Abbott has been proven to be useless on giving information and facts …. how does she get this paid for gig every time?
Hmmm……let me think.
Is there a candle vigil this weekend or not? Sterling is going through the roof on the foreign -exchange markets yesterday and today folks – not heard on BBC so can’t be happening
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/848151/terror-warning-ISIS-Britain-UK-islamist-fanatics-terrorism
35,000 jihadi muslims living in Britain, want me as a British citizen dead. They also want you dead. What the hell are these people doing being allowed to live in this country. They should not be allowed to walk our streets.
I want to know who are the very people who want me dead. I want to know where they live and exactly who they are so that if I see them I can better understand the level of danger I will be in.
Some of you may live very close to someone who wants you dead.
We have an army waiting to serve it’s people and country. Not for fantastic pay like Gary ‘1.74m’ Lineker who is protected by them. Or Lord Hall at 450k.
Transfer BBC £3.5bn monies to army and ask then to detain and subdue 35k terrorists.
I’m willing to watch Dads Army repeats for a year, but without terrorists being paid welfare payments and waiting for terrorists to self explode.
…..Some of you may live very close to someone who wants you dead……..
Honestly ? I don’t ‘engage’ with them.
I’m never rude and will speak politely if its necessary to converse; BUT regardless of taxi driver / doctor/ shopkeeper / chemist / optician/ the ‘ nice’ family up the road /van driver /shop assistant /etc I will not be chummy chummy, because who knows what’s going on in their head ? It may be the smart suited Consultant (business or medical) or the burkha covered ‘person’ who their neighbours believe are ‘just like us’ – but that’s the biggest fallacy of all, they’re NOT. They belong to a religion which comes before everything and isn’t our way of life.
I’m suspicious of them. I refuse to eat in a Curry house – who knows what they put in a curry pot for the English pigs in the kitchen, but greet you with a beaming smile, while you spend the next day on the loo.
No, I wasn’t brought up to be ill-mannered, but I do keep them at arms length.
Brissles,
it’s not about engaging with them. They’ll just blow your body parts up into many fragmented pieces.
In not informing me of a clear and present danger, Theresa may is supporting someone who is a threat to my life. We have every right to know who our intended murderers are. They need to be publicly named.
It may threaten their ‘uman rights. But what about my human rights or doesn’t Theresa May care about peace abiding British citizens.
Wronged,
That’s the problem for Treezer: this evil is totally entwined around the islamic population and to act positively, she would be turning Bradford, Birmingham etc etc into Mosul, Raka. Surely the death of half a dozen or twenty from time to time, (her reasoning not mine) is worth balancing destroying much of the country. Cowards all of them, starting at No.10
The Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk–
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock,
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
They are used to the lies I tell;
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy or sell.
The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control–
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.
This was my father’s belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf–
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children’s teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.
— Rudyard Kipling
wronged,
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/848151/terror-warning-ISIS-Britain-UK-islamist-fanatics-terrorism
“35,000 jihadi muslims living in Britain, want me as a British citizen dead. They also want you dead.”
Nope.
You realise your are getting your “news” from the “Daily Express”? A newspaper [sic] which claims an ‘Alien Skull’ has been found on a Mars and the world is coming to an end in ‘The Rapture’ next weekend, just after ‘Mrs Brown’s Boys’?
For a start, Gilles de Kerchove said 25,000 not 35,000. Still an alarmingly high figure, but it refers to anyone who has ever been ‘on the radar’ of the security services. A high figure because obviously they cast a wide net in the hope of catching the few sharks.
Of those twenty five thousand, twenty thousand; “were said to have been considered ‘subjects of interest’ in the past”. So not anymore.
http://tinyurl.com/y9dz6pj5
Somewhere in the middle of the copy, the Daily Express lets slip that MI5 are actively watching “500” individuals. Rather less than the 35,000 in the headline but never mind; they sold a few more copies, generated a few more clicks, and duped a new more gullible fools.
Well now, if someone you care about were to get killed or maimed by just one of your supposed 500, would that give you a nice, warm feeling of righteousness? I guess it would.
maxincony
It only takes one to get through.
And your point?
My point ? Why do you post here ? What motivates you ? Would you be so good as to answer, or are you just an Al Beeb Troll ?
With everything it should be about facts, but you have to admit that the BBC uses, omits words, replaces video with photos and information in ways to tell different story to that which happened.
On this site you will find many examples, sometimes it can be the poster who gets it wrong, sometimes we want to see something that isn’t there.
But the BBC is paid, under threat of prison, by the public. Which means we cannot punish or stop such things as …
To keep giving a fraud a platform to sell more fraud, to give a pedophile a safe-space, to pay opinionated people large wages who are supposed to be socialists but thrive on capitalism, to forget the 71 genders when drawing contracts, to pay grown ups who phone people and talk about having sex with their granddaughter and then invite them back for more pay, to let Directors claim £34 pounds on expenses when they earn 450k, to give these people on high wages free pass to opera and nights out, to write news that hides details by showing still images rather than the video, to over use a term like right-wing and forget the left-wing, to give Labour an easier ride, to drop the term Islam and Muslim, to pay a person who backed a religious bounty to kill an author of fiction, to not report on updates on news because it is awkward, to forget Roy Larner, to make everything political.
Good post MarkyMark,
I have for sometime been a contrarian to most of what the BBC report , it has put me in good stead. they say that climate change is occurring everywhere I therefore think it isn’t happening, they say we should Remain in the EU I vote Brexit, they promote the Labour Party, I vote either Tory or UKIP when they stand, it detests Trump so I quite like him, it hates Tommy Robinson so I admire him, it hates Isreal so I support them,whatever their view is on any subject I usually take a different and generally opposite one.
One can only imagine the mental turmoil people must go through if they believe even half of what the BBC tell you. My advice to everyone I meet is to listen to what the BBC report and think the opposite.
I suppose the moral of the story is that the BBC is usually wrong on most political and social matters.
It is now a political mouthpiece of the Labour Party and therefore unbalanced,biased,PC, anti British and a wholly corrupt corporation. It is supported by a poll tax registration whereby if you don’t pay you go to jail. Get rid or change.
Straight from the horses mouth – “The majority of terrorist attack plots in this country have been planned by British residents. There are several thousand individuals in the UK who support violent extremism or are engaged in Islamist extremist activity. ”
Try the MI5 website for size:
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/international-terrorism
I recall the 33/35,000 figure came from the EU did’t it?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/09/security-chief-says-uk-is-home-to-35000-islamic-jihadis
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4840604/Britain-home-35-000-Islamic-fanatics.html
G read this, they are in Britain.
Wronged,
“I want to know who are the very people who want me dead.”
Your very own Government, past and present?
But not the future if we do something about the present G.
Start with giving Murdoch his voice via Fox news, getting rid of the ex BBC Ofcom panellists and sacking Karen Bradley for cowardice. Sack James Purnell and any other BBC employee with a close political affiliation. Destroy political correctness, sack any university chancellor if their university promotes anti British values.
Seriously worrying report relegated to the business pages – read this one and allow a shiver down your spine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41200682
This listing of Aramco (Arab American Oil Company for those who don’t know) has been chased by the Tories on behalf of the already wealthy bankers of London, Theresa May (AKA ‘we just haven’t got a clue what to do’) supressed the reports (plural) into Saudi funded terrorism to get this deal.
In other words the position bankers in London matters more to the Tories than the lives of the rest of the people in the UK who are it appears simply collateral damage.
I knew the Tories were mercenary, but I was shocked by this report, I had hoped that the Tories were better than this, alas they aren’t.
Thoughtful
This great country needs a new political party, a party that will put Great Britain first.
And a state fund national broadcaster that does the same, or if not that then no state funded broadcaster at all and leave it to the market to give the British what they want to watch and listen to.