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Monday morning . Hilary continues to preach from the high ground on al beeb.
Interesting that st Hilary is appearing to her worshipers on Wimmins Hour as opposed to Toady .
A bit of me wants to listen but as a chap a feel excluded from a sexist title like Wimmins Hour .
Dipping into Toady – redwood and windbag k Clarke – who gets the most / easiest time . How redwood stays calm under the onslaught from beeboids is beyond me .
May is going to see Junkers 52 and barnier. I wonder if she ll come back, get off the plane waving a piece of paper saying “peace in our time”?
Goes around comes around .
Whatever really happens the EU/al beeb will leak that May was begging for the EU to be nicer and we could stay for another 5 years if the EU prefers it. And we ll pay their bribes.
May may say … “We’ve won!” waving a blank bill from the EU.
It’s always interesting to get little insights into BBC editorial decisions. Late last week weatherman Phil Avery revealed how the BBC was planning to go big on ‘ex-hurricane Ophelia’, “We’re going to be talking about it from Monday”
Having disappointed the BBC both in terms of power of the storm and location of where it came ashore BBC Breakfast resorts to plan B : nostalgia items on the 30 year anniversay of the 1987 storm.
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The English lit graduates in al beeb will enjoy stormy weather and stormy brexit doom and gloom .
For Mr. Qasim Rashid Islam is the cure, not the problem … “How the teachings of Islam could help us prevent more sexual abuse scandals” {independent 15oct2017}
“This is where Islamic teachings and Prophet Muhammad’s example provide a solution that no state truly can. And while there are people who don’t believe that sexual abuse is even a problem, some on the left will disagree that accountability to a higher power is a solution. ”
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“Yes, Islam implores accountability to the creator, but rather than preach empty dogmatic theories, Islam instead prescribes a proven secular model.”
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“The Quran further obliges men to provide for a woman’s every financial need, while holding that anything a woman earns is hers alone – preempting financial abuse. And when it comes to the Islamic concept of Hijab, it is men who are first commanded to never gawk at women, and instead guard their private parts and chastity, regardless of how women choose to dress – pre-empting sexual abuse.”
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“Together, we can employ a proven Islamic model that will stop this madness, and re-invoke gender equity today in America, and the world.”
. . . all very interesting from the Qasim Rashid who is a Ahmadiyya Muslim, who fails to explain Saudi Arabia (32 million people) and Iran’s (80 million people) behaviour and only recently women being able to drive a car in Saudi . . .but can Mr. Rashid answer these questions . . .
a. If a man writes a piece of fiction, should he have a death contract put on his life?
b. If a person declares they are homosexual should they be shunned?
c. If a man draws a cartoon should he be sent death threats?
d. Do you think you should be given a job based solely on your religion?
e. Do you think you should discriminate against animals?
f. Do you think UK Tax Payers should support and pay for Sharia to operate in the UK?
g. Should dogs be shunned from society, considering they have helped mankind a lot?
h. If a man eats bacon, will he die?
a. If no, then please write to Iran to remove current death sentence for Salman Rushdie. (Fiction denied)
b. If no, then please ask for it to be stopped in Majority Muslim Countries. (Homosexuals shunned)
c. If no, then please ask this to be stopped in Majority Muslim Countries. (Cartoons denied)
d. If no, then remove the restriction that only Muslims can recite from the Koran and slaughter the animals for Halal food. (Positive Religious/Employment Discrimination in slaughter houses)
e. If no, then start using pork products in your baking. (Animal Discrimination against pigs)
f. Halal food, bought, enforces the Sharia laws as it conforms to Sharia doctrine. (Halal as a Tax)
g. If no, then every Muslim should adopt a dog for the family to break this barrier. (Animal Discrimination against dogs)
h. If no, then why enforce Halal on everyone? (Eating Bacon)
– ‘Together, we can employ a proven Islamic model that will stop this madness (abuse of women)’ -Qasim Rashid
– Women in Iran today? Women in Saudi today? Cartoons? Homosexuals? Books of fiction? Positive employment/religious discrimination? Pigs? Dogs? Bacon?
– In my opinion this article ignores the current reality of Islam in the world and Islam historically.
“Either we go on playing the game of blindfold and machete, or we take off the blindfold, take away the machete and show Mr. Islam the door.”
– Daniel Greenfield
Apparently (and I didn’t know this until earlier this morning), the Independent now has significant Saudi funsing behind it.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jul/29/saudi-investor-buys-up-significant-stake-in-the-independent
I guess we can expect to see more of this kind of nonsense from this rag.
The Independent reports German football team have taken the knee to promote tolerance and responsibility.
They may as well stay down but swap their kit for orange boiler suits ready for their ritual slaying if Merkel’s policies continue. Absolutely clueless. Even sheep have more sense.
“German football team have taken the knee ”
Is that ashen-faced Ron Knee, 59?
Seems the entire German state has. And no penalty wall hand protection will save them.
3. Islam offers three things. In the Koran it offers Peace, War and then a Continuation of War. In your life Islam wants you to subjugate yourself, subjugate your family and then subjugate everyone else.
One Knee, then both knees … you see the direction of travel.
nofan,
Just how, “independent” will that leave the, “independent”?
There are different rules for treatment of fellow Muslims and non-believers, the most vile of created beings. These rape gangs behave so atrociously as they consider their victims to be sub human.
MM,
“For Mr. Qasim Rashid Islam is the cure, not the problem …”. Well now, ‘what’s good for the goose is good for the gander’. If Mr Rashid is running any courses on the ‘islamic cure’ sometime maybe Mr Weinstein should be forced to sign on? I hear that the ‘islamic cure’ works every time – but really? beheading is, sort of, ‘final’ isn’t it?
2. Islam only has two problems – Muhammed and Mohammed. Once the first problem has been solved then the second one can be solved easily.
G – reminds of ‘one way of settling all difficulties, great or small’ ….
“The Queen had only one way of settling all difficulties, great or small. ‘Off with his head!’ she said, without even looking round.” – Alice in Wonderland, banned in China (1931)
Ahmadi Muslims are not regarded as being Muslim by other Muslims, they are a heretical sect and have less than zero influence on the mainstream, that is to say anything they do come out with would be regarded negatively.
You might recall a few years ago an Ahmadi shopkeeper in Glasgow who wished his customers a happy Easter was murdered by an enraged Muslim who travelled from Bradford to Glasgow just to kill him.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/asad-shah-murder-killing-glasgow-shopkeeper-tanveer-ahmed-muslim-ahmadi-prophet-mohamed-a7124531.html
A man has pleaded guilty to murdering a shopkeeper in Glasgow because he “disrespected the message of the Prophet Mohamed”.
Yet all of this was unacceptable to the BBC which had to lie in order to make what had happened acceptable to their warped minds.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-36732596
According to them it was an attack on his liberal values and therefore all liberals including the BBC are at risk from such attacks. What heroes they are for holding such views in the face of such danger !
Different type of Muslim are not safe in the UK … interesting.
Now some in Asad Shah’s family – who years ago sought sanctuary in Britain – are planning on leaving here too in fear of facing yet more persecution.
As his brother says: “The family don’t feel safe anymore living here in Scotland and it has split the family apart.” {bbc.co.uk 07jul2016}
– The BBC title is interesting as well ‘Why was shopkeeper Asad Shah murdered?’
– The BBC have the answer in the article but don’t add it to the tile – ‘Blasphemy!’.
– The BBC won’t say the why, because people don’t read the stories, they read the titles.
Watching the BBC Marr Show last night with Hillary and it ended on Hillary Clinton (‘No one left to lie to {amazon}‘) saying she will keep pushing to see a female in the White House as President of the USA.
For a win-win situation all Trump has to do is transition into a Female and he can win the 2020 presidential elections and make everyone happy (apart from Melania possibly).
All Trump has to do is hope Hillary gets the Dem nomination again or that Obummer’s wife decides to run and gains the nomination, either of which outcome would guarantee The Donald a second term.
And Hillary transitions into a man to get the deplorable vote?
Got a new game.
Listened to that bag of wind nocktee on Toady who had a session worshiping st Hilary last night . He mentioned “Donald Trump” 5 Times but never said “President Trump” good example of inbred al beeb bias .next time I dip my finger into al beeb propaganda news I’ll listen for the term “president Trump”
It’s usual for the BBBC to infer disrespect by this method, Fed.
They never tire from finding ways to show their bias, and like ‘subliminal advertising’, they try and get their bile out while the listeners, all three of them, just hear the words, and have to put up with it.
Isn’t this a form of virtue signalling, or just damn bad manners?
While I won’t bother listening to the programme, I’m sure Necktie will have just fawned over the failed, slippery old doll, who seems to think that she’s the answer to everything, except the ‘past’, where everything belongs!
Scroblene,
But can St. Hilary match Monica? That’s the real question.
G, Victoria Wood (bless her), mentioned once that ‘Monica would forget her head if it wasn’t screwed on…’! Marvellous!
Billary has so many questions to answer, so she’s quite safe with any .interviewer. at BBBC.
In contrast, in their report on James Corden’s ill timed Weinstein jokes – “During the annual amfAR gala in LA, James made a series of gags about the Hollywood producer who is facing rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment claims.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/41632891/james-corden-apologises-for-weinstein-jokes-at-charity-event
The BBC is playing for time over the victory of the OVP , which is EU sceptic and wants to drastically cut immigration, in the Austrian election yesterday and particularly the second place achieved by the OFP which is vehemently against any hint of Islamification of the country. I guess they are hoping that Brussels can find a way to pressure the OVP leader Kurtz into not including the OFP in the ruling coalition. No doubt the liberal left view across Europe is that the OVP is a threat to further European integration and to mad Merkel’s migrants for all policy, but perhaps they can be pressured into behaving themselves , whereas the OFP is simply beyond the pale. Anyway , the eastern part of the EU is in rebellious mood and as the number of countries in open defiance of Brussels grows its control and influence weakens.
If The OVP does include the OFP in government then we can expect the BBC to start seeking to undermine the credibility of the Austrian government , to give us endless reruns of the Nazis a Warning from History when there is absolutely no parallel to be drawn, and to do whatever it can to help Brussels save the world from the democratic decisions of the countries of Eastern Europe. Just as they are trying to save the world from the democratic decisions of the American people by traducing President Trump.
As we in the UK have no party which opposes mass immigration and Islamification I think that we must look east towards our salvation. The Visegrad group and now Austria stand firm against Islam perhaps they can save us too.
DT, indeed our 2 of our liberal TV outlets (BBC / Sky) are devoid of the real story, only revealing that the new leader is the youngest in modern politics. well whoopeedoo. It is left to other outlets to reveal the real news which has obviously stuck in the craw with the bbc.
Of all media outlets the Washington Post unusually comes clean with
“Austria turns sharply to the right in an election shaped by immigration”
Why would the bbc et al be so shy about a young, right-leaning politician being elected? Answer, it is so off-message that it is totally unpalatable for the diet of the marxists at al beeb.
Bias by omission again? Yes methinks.
5 Live Phone in about Sexual Harassment
“Your Call: Has your career been affected by sexual harassment?
?: 08085 909 693 ?: 85058 #MeToo
Look BBC have an agenda cos they are pushing a hashtag
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155864108331108&id=8251776107&refid=52&__tn__=-R
Introductions framing was by playing Emma Thompson tape
– First call : about Dubai
Father said his daughter a lawyer in a meeting had her leg stroked by a client
He didn’t mention if client was Arab.
She felt unable to make a formal complaint.
.. That’s strange how can a lawyer be so weak ?
.. Surely H&S law means that every incident should be logged.
– Father said there was an unconnected incident that a partner in firm had been spreading false rumours about her as if to damage her career.
Interesting after news Nicky read a text about Dubai thus time naming the offender as Arab.
Then texts about UK pestering 30 years ago.
If physical assault of 20 women a total of 50 times, makes you a Harvey Weinstein
then there must 200 Harvey Weinstein’s in those grooming gangs.
Yes the BBC are pushing an agenda. Something I was going to post about but forgot. see below.
Nicky Catastrophe had been expecting to deliver us a whole prog of women complaining about their bosses/colleagues
Three quarters Nicky pleaded we’ve had women who texted in but won’t speak on air.
Doh..that’s your BBC lack of professionalism. You rushed in, instead of preparing properly to deal with sensitive things. You could have collected stories then voiced them up to air on Tuesday
At 9:45am only aired 3 callers all men relaying pestering that had happened to women they knew …
There were a couple of women complaining about 60s and 70s stuff, but we did not hear any accounts of recent abuse that happened in the UK.
What was the result in the Austrian elections yesterday?
I’ve only had bbc radio on this morning and there’s been no mention at all.
Knowing how the bbc lies and manipulates the news to suit its far left anti Trump and anti Brexit agenda I take it that the right have done well otherwise the far left bbc would have been pushing any left victory non stop.
Manny,
See above.
Seen it now D.
Our bbc Newcastle lead story is about dangerous dogs being put down then the second story is about selling chocolate in hospital shops.
A dramatic win for an Austrian party that wants to look after its own population doesn’t rate news time.
I guessed this would be the bbc position as I saw the way the election was heading on Breitbart last night and as soon as I heard nothing on the news I realised it didn’t go the way the bbc wanted and so they had to hide the result.
I think we all on here know how to interpret the bbc news now.
‘Some people say’ the bbc has its own agenda.
THIS Austrian Election?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/866746/Austria-election-2017-results-poll-Sebastian-Kurz-OVP-Austria-live-updates
“Austria election RESULTS: Eurosceptic Sebastian Kurz declares VICTORY in nightmare for EU”
Woo Hoo!
EU Jewish groups not happy with Austrian election result.
The European Jewish Congress in a statement congratulated Kurz on his victory, and called on him to form a coalition of centrist parties and “not be beholden” to a party of the far-right in his new coalition government.
“A party which has run on a platform of xenophobic intolerance and the targeting of immigrants must not be granted a seat at the governing table,” EJC President Dr. Moshe Kantor said.
World Jewish Congress President Ronald S. Lauder, who was the U.S. ambassador to Austria from 1986 to 1987, said in a statement: “It is sad and distressing that such a platform should receive more than a quarter of the vote and become the country’s second party. It is still full of xenophobes and racists and is, mildly put, very ambiguous toward Austria’s Nazi past.”
https://www.jta.org/2017/10/15/news-opinion/world/far-right-party-earns-second-highest-votes-in-austrias-national-election
Isn’t it strange that whenever a right wing party gains support, the spectre of the Nazis is always raised even though they were national SOCIALISTS? Yet whenever a left wing party gains support there is never any mention of the likes of Stalin or Pol Pot.
Lobster,
“……never any mention of the likes of Stalin or Pol Pot.” Add, ‘Chavez’.
and brother corbyn.
In a similar vein, ageing funster Michael Palin was trying to compare The public persona of The Donald with Mussolini in the way he jutted out his chin and swung his head from side to side.
Must send a video of any one of Obama’s speeches to him for his in-depth analysis.
Lobster, it’s because apologist leftists have for decades never considered Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot to be ‘true socialists’. In their twisted narratives, they consider these men to have been misguided, somehow unfaithful to the aims of ‘true socialism’. Never mind the millions the murdered along the way towards the creation of their socialist utopias – they just ‘didn’t do it right’. Never mind the fact that successive Communist tyrants received their radical conversions to Communism whilst being educated in France (Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Saloth Sar (Pol Pot) and many, many others. It’s true that for many of them, once home again, their ‘revolution’ began first as a fight against colonialism (particularly in French Indochina), but they all – all of them – metastasized into full-blown Communism in the end.
As far as Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Ho Chi Minh went, they all considered themselves to be ‘true comrades’. Sure, they squabbled and fell amongst each other (because of course they did), but they were ‘doing’ socialism (and ultimately Communism) absolutely correctly. Pol Pot thought he was doing socialism the most correctly of all. To such an unimaginably horrific extreme that in the end it took another Communist nation (Vietnam) to finally intervene and put an end to his absolutely murderous insanity.
The situation in Austria , indeed the whole of Europe, is totally different to the rise of the Nazi party and other dictatorships , of both left and right , across Europe in the twenties and thirties. Today Europe is facing an Islamic invasion aided and abetted by many of it ruling elite, the people are voting in increasing numbers for parties and leaders who will resist this invasion. The people have no wish , nor do their new leaders, of imposing their culture outside of their own countries , they merely wish to be left to live peacefully in their own country with their own culture and not to be forced to increasingly accept alien values and cultures. Those who label them far right facists are the true facist of the 21st century determined to force their views and values on the Europeans who are trying to use the democratic process to resist this. If the elites don’t bow to democratic will then they are playing a very dangerous game.
Doublethinker
Isn’t there a quote by somebody, something along the lines of “Those who make it impossible to effect change via the ballot box will ensure change will come via the bullet”? Not the exact quote but you get the drift. Anyway, not a statement to be disregarded completely I think.
G.W.F.
Unfortunately Jewish DNA doesn’t come with a built-in immunity to leftist lunacy.
Lucy Pevensey
Yes, sadly the case, when I defend Israel from some of my left wing Jewish friends who insist that it is an apartheid state.
G.W.F.
Unfortunately Jewish DNA doesn’t come with a built-in immunity to leftist lunacy.
Not listening very hard to the Today programme this morning but half heard the 7.40 newspaper review; they are keen to tell us that someone was predicting that without an EU trade deal we will be short of food and will have to cultivate roadside verges. If I believed it for one second – what is the problem with that – more work for UK farmers.
Of course, no other countries in the world grow crops that we could import, do they?
There’s also a large vacancy for school teachers in Africa …
Nigeria schools: Kaduna primary teachers fail pupils’ exam {bbc.co.uk 10oct2017}
“Thousands of primary school teachers in Nigeria’s northern Kaduna state are to be sacked after failing the exams they set for their six-year-old pupils. State governor Nasir El-Rufai said 21,780 (Nigerian) teachers, two-thirds of the total, had failed to score 75% or higher on assessments given to pupils (aged six). ”
With all the Beeb stories about “yoof” obesity and the cost to the NHS, I would have thought they would welcome less food being available.
Driving this morning and listened to R4 as penance for being a brexitieer 🙂
Yes I heard the comment about Chris Grayling on Marr – which I watched and in no way was his comment bad, ill considered it was in answer to one of Marr’s fatuous questions – I think Grayling did a great job of fending of Marr..I think the mirror have picked up on it, twisted it and R4 used it as a part of their Brexit bashing morning… which it has been…
And the start of Woman’s hour – well….apparently all men are serial rapists, we get up in the morning planning to assault helpless women – you can’t really believe some of the discussions. I really don’t understand why the emphasis is always on how ‘Strong’ women are so easily insulted and assaulted by men…it never occurs around the other way does it? Get some balance in these discussions please…
I totally agree with your comments James. But sadly we live in changing times. I don’t know many ladies who would walk out alone after dark – we are so ‘conditioned’ that there’s an attacker behind every hedge. Obviously there isn’t, but no-one wants to take the risk anymore. I live in a village, and occasionally have walked my dog at 10 at night, there’s no-one around, and normally walk in the middle of the road with a sharp object in my pocket. The days are long gone when I would get the last bus home in my teens and walk through darkened streets to home – never gave safety a second thought. And do blokes still accompany their girlfriends home ?? cos its never been the other way around.
Brissles
I agree with what you say in the context that you say it – I am of the same mind and my wife carries her keys in her hand if walking by herself in certain cirmcumstances.
However the discussions on Women’s hour do not relate to these situations they relate to being on a crowded tube train, at work, in fact anywhere but the context you have raised.
That really is the point I am making – I have said it before but most of the women I know would not put up with a man rubbing himself against her on a train…his nuts would be on the railway line if it were my wife.
I don’t think discussions that put all men in the same boat are useful to women in the same way that putting all women in the same boat (all loving, friendly get on with each other, as was portrayed on R4 today) does them any favours…There are bad men and bad women…all are equally bad. Balance in all discussions is really what the BBC seem unable to provide
Brissles,
Not walking out alone after dark? In winter that’s anytime after 4pm!
Coming home from work & having a 20+ min walk from the train station is a fact of life.
I’m quite aware of that Lucy, I did it regularly too when I was in work for 40 years and didn’t own a car !!! (I know what I mean anyway)
‘…we will be short of food and will have to cultivate roadside verges.’ This is what the green lobby keeps telling us we should do anyway, so surely the BBC should see Brexit as an opportunity for food self-suffiency?
Might work, if the May allows us to emit more CO2. Because as she does not know, amongst other things, that CO2 is essential for all plant life, little CO2=no green plants!
We could also plough up the airports to use as farmland because the remoaners say we will not be able to fly to Europe.
The good news is that will at least end the Third Runway at Heathrow debate, which seems to have been dragging on for most of my life.
Deborah,
Thank you for subjecting yourself to Toaday , I gave up long ago as it was making me ill, you must be made of sterner stuff than I. The claims of the Remainers are reaching the same degree of hyperbole as Project Fear did before the referendum. I can only conclude that they are doing this because they are seeking to lay down a barrage of misinformation so that when the terms of leaving are voted on by MPs , which I am sure they will be, the Remainrs can use it to justify their refusal to enact the democratic instructions that they were given by the people. Sit back and watch a tragedy unfold as a whole country is duped by its political class. It makes you sick and people must be incredibly stupid if they can’t see through it.
Last night on BBC4 a new BBC academic, Dr Richard Clay of Birmingham Uni, narrated with great relish the tearing down & defacement of statues etc. His focus was the French Revolution, where (per Radio Times) He’s keen to show that the sans culottes weren’t ignorant barbarians but smart people who regarded monuments in public places as symbols of control.
He did extend a little to modern French graffiti, but he (& the BBC?) must be kicking themselves that the programme was filmed before the smart people in the USA added statue toppling to their anti-Trump repertoire.
‘…smart people who regarded monuments in public places as symbols of control. ‘ Does that also apply to monuments to Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, etc? Presumably ‘symbols of control’ are OK if the ‘control’ is an ideology you agree with.
For me statues are sticks in the ground (history) that remind us how we got here … some good, some bad.
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear” – George Orwell
Aren’t the BBC planning to erect a statue of Orwell outside Broadcasting House? The hypocrisy is breath taking. I am certain that in today’s world Orwell would be telling the BBC and their liberal left elite cronies , what they didn’t want to hear. The BBC have spent the last twenty years at least telling those in power exactly what they want to hear and suppressing those voices of dissent that Orwell so valued.
Today Orwell would be de-platformed and accused of spreading ‘hate speech’. He must be turning mournfully in his grave.
It’s taken the BBC a while to latch onto the “take a knee” fiasco, but unsurprisingly they’re now trying to portray Colin Kaepernick as a victimised civil rights icon (as per this article http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/41630253) rather than a privileged has-been whose actions are entirely self-motivated and have led to the NFL’s ratings tanking.
Then again, the left also thinks Hillary Clinton is a modern-day suffragette, so it’s not surprising that they’d be this intellectually dishonest about Kaepernick.
I commented yesterday on how the BBC news website is shoehorning in a “womens” story, an “ethnic minority” story, and a “transgender” story every day now along with actual news stories. I said they’re guaranteed to publish at least 2 out of 3 every day. Well, today it’s a full house!
And the muslim story, don’t forget the daily muslim story.
It is astonishing how many stories revolve around their key pet subjects. And the overwhelming majority of people just are not interested in race, gender and sexuality – they have no bearing whatsoever on our lives. #Fake News.
Lefties criticise papers like the Daily Mail for rotating ‘pet subjects’ like scares about gypsies, the EU, immigrants, etc. Yet the BBC and other leftist media do this in exactly the same way with stories about ‘transgender’ etc. The latest is Mr Trump. I log onto my email provider daily, and every day there is a story in the news feed about Trump. Every day. And it’s always a ‘fake news’ type story with a headline such as ‘Trump implicated in child cancer epidemic’ or some such, that you just know is not true. They always combine it with one of those ‘angry Trump’ pictures. Ridiculous.
Maybe this will see the outrage bus appear from an unexpected direction?
https://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/andy-marrs-thought-for-day.html?
The MSM defining the negative language of Brexit and the no-deal scanario;
Over the cliff-edge should be Take-off.
No-deal disaster should be Removal of 1000 shackles.
No deal car-crash should be Escape
and finally, an abbreviation they never make;
EU Chief negotiator Monsieur Michel Barnier should be Barnier.
Frankly,
“EU Chief negotiator Monsieur Michel Barnier should be Barnier.” You mean he should be, ‘Trumpted’?
To try and think forward to how al beeb will be after we leave the EU – will it switch directly to the campaign to rejoin? How much better the EU is doing than Blighty ? Tales of hate against krauts and cheese eating surrender monkeys ? Heartbroken EU families who can’t get uk benefits any more ?
I know – I’m jumping for to something ( some say ) will never happen . A celebration fireworks party at the end of March 2019. It won’t solve all our problems – but it will be one step forward.
Fedup2, this is an interesting point. I think negative stories about Britain will continue (if/when) we leave the EU. But I suspect it will become more difficult for Remainers to push positive stories about the EU; once Britain leaves, Brussels will be strapped for cash, and there appears no end in sight to the problems of Greece, the Visegrad Treaty states, and the arrival of more of Merkel’s Millions.
I believe that the more it goes badly for the UK post-Brexit, the more gleeful the BBC will become in its reporting. It depresses me to think about it but, it would see endless years of ‘I told you so’ with big smiles on their faces 🙁
Fedup,
If we stop paying the licence tax, Beeby might disappear up the vacuum of it’s own hatred.
Even better to pay £145 to a charity that supports Rotherham Rape victims instead of paying Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker a wage, under threat of prison?
Nice to see the, ‘most trusted broadcaster’ being anxious to add to the list (“bringing it to light”) of Weinstein’s ‘victims’. They are probably searching through the list of all the “Starlets” he’s given a career ‘leg-up-to’ (forgive the expression) to see if any of them would consider siding with the others on the growing list.
No such coverage for young girls as victims of the islamic faith though. Why is this?
One interviewee on the Today programme earlier, put it, in the case of Weinstein, down to fear. So, let me get this right, if ‘fear’ is what is suggested prevented the Starlets coming forward at the time, was it fear that prevented the BBC, local authorities and the Police exposing the muzzies following their handbook? What precisely is the nature of their, “fear”?
Hmm What to you call it, when you drop the rules of equality and apply special treatment to one race/ethnic-group ?
#MoreEqualThanOthers
Why language matters …. Hillary Clinton on BBC’s Marr Show 15oct2017… BBC journalism bringing truth to power?
“.. we recognise this kind of behaviour (Harvey Weinstein) cannot be tolerated anywhere. Whether in entertainment or politics…” – Hillary Clinton
“Will?” – Marr says quietly
“After all we have someone (Bill Clinton) admitting to being a sexual assaulter in the Oval office …” – Hillary Clinton
– BBC journalism bringing truth to power?
– Marr uses the name ‘Will’ rather than ex-President of the USA Bill Clinton. He hides behind a name that is rarely used.
– Clinton uses ‘we have someone’ rather than ‘my husband’ or ‘my husband who was president of the USA’.
– Clinton uses ‘Oval office’ rather than ‘White House’.
– Clinton uses word ‘admitting’, but fail to say that Bill/Will Clinton lied initially until evidence of semen on a dress exposed her husband’s lie.
– Clinton uses word ‘a sexual assaulter’ but does not mention how many times, how many victims and over what period of time and what punishment was dished out (none).
– BBC journalism FAILING to bring truth to power in the case of Bill and Hillary Clinton on the BBC Marr Show.
Stop press
Hilary won’t get to Wimmins Hour – I was so looking forward to a bit of Monday morning comedy too . Bitter tears indeed.
Suppose I’d better go find someone to hate or sexually harass since both of those things are so fashionable – I live in a Muslim london borough so the grooming angle is already taken with all the bearded ones sitting outside the local girls school waiting for a target.
Why language matters …
BBC language ‘Grooming Gang’
. . . . . verses . . . . .
Real world language “Sadistic rapists who then torture the girls by pouring petrol over them and traffic them for sex all over the country from 1997 to now, today and tomorrow.”
Marky,
It shows the power of media – i accept the term “ grooming “ when it is not
“Honour crime” when it is not .
As for the no coverage of Austria – the youngest leader in Europe 31- contrast that with the sainthood al beeb showered on Macron- another shyster who can Do No Wrong . Like Am Sham Coochi coo
Install a BBC WORD ALARM APP into your head via Daniel Dennett …
This is exactly what Daniel Dennett warned about in ‘Daniel Dennett on Tools To Transform Our Thinking: The Surely Alarm …”you have just found the weak point in the argument”” @13:44′ .{youtube}
BBC’s ‘3 Girls’ – what about the other girls, hey, this is still going on and why aren’t you reporting on them and giving a historical view of how we got to this awful point in the UK.
‘Grooming Gang’ – grooming is what you do to dogs, you don’t pour petrol over their heads and rape them which is what actually happened and is still happening today.
‘Pay Gap’ – there will always be a pay gap based on experience and skill. So what is the real difference? Envy?
‘Free’ – nothing is free, if it was free then everyone could have it without cost to someone else. School dinners require food, staff and washing up. This requires people, goods and time. So there can’t be ‘free’ school dinners.
‘Hate Crime’ – hating is not a crime it is an emotion. Rape is a crime. Theft is a crime. Hating Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker is not a crime.
I feel sure that Mrs Clinton is referring here to President Trump, and the “pussygate” tape.
She never talks about the fact that Bill Clinton is s serial sexual abuser of women, or the fact that she covered up for him and belittled the women he abused.
If she confonted her behaviour she would have to accept that she is a vile human being, who helped enable her husband’s life of sexual perversion. A good interviewer might like to ask her about this, but of course she is perfectly safe amongst her left wing chums at the BBC.
Yes, I caught part of Big Lugs’ interview with Ma Clinton. At one point, she mentioned a sexual predator in the Oval Office. For a moment I thought she might be referring to Priapic Bill, the President Erect who spent his time there drenching his coworkers in his seminal fluids. No, of course the Prince of Darkness, and source of all Evil in the Universe, Trump, was being singled out for derision. What tiresome hypocrites both interviewer and interviewee are!
ID – This needs clarification – I thought I heard Marr say ‘William’ under his breath in the Clinton interview @0:55, it was not very clear what and why he is muttering.
Listen closely to @0:55 as Marr mutters something which I thought was ‘Will’?
“Will?” – Marr mutters, not clear but is what I thought he said
“After all we have someone admitting to being a sexual assaulter in the Oval office.” – Hillary Clinton
This is amazing, the term applies to Clinton more than Trump. The phrase ‘in the’ suggests it is the now (2017), present tense. This is double conflated speech.
– ‘someone’ – could mean Trump or Clinton
– ‘in the’ suggests the present, now so Trump?
– ‘Oval Office’ rather than White House, White House is common term for international audiences.
– ‘admitting to being a sexual assaulter’ – Trump or Clinton?
– BBC, your £3.5bn News Service is failing to get to the facts – too many questions raised by this interview.
Markymark
It’s difficult to make out what Big Lugs is muttering. It could also be “Well”.
Clinton does seem to refer to someone who admits to being [a sexual assaulter in the Oval Office]. This can only be Priapic Bill. I can’t remember if Bill actually admitted this. But no one is claiming that Trump has actually violated anyone with the Oval Office as the crime scene, unlike Bill.
“..whilst my (Bill Clinton) answers were legally accurate, I did not volunteer information. Indeed I did have a relationship with Miss Lewinsky that was not appropriate. In fact it was wrong.”@0:36
“Bill Clinton admits to having inappropriate relationship with Monica Lewinsky”
… Listen to this and think of Keith Vaz. These evil people thrive because our journalism is failing to ask ….
“Keith Vaz (67% voters for Labour in GE17), the senior Labour backbencher, claimed more than £75,500 in expenses for a flat in Westminster despite his family home being a £1.15 million house just 12 miles from parliament.”
“Mr Vaz’s claims have always been in accordance with the spirit and rules of the Green Book,” – Reported 9 May 2009.
Amongst all the hysteria concerning Harvey Weinstein I wonder whether the BBC will find time for a bit of balance and actually report a proven serious crime?
This woman has just been jailed for trying to ruin a man’s life by falsely accusing him of rape.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4982960/Mother-cried-rape-date-policeman-jailed.html
Any chance of interrupting your anti-man feeding frenzy and reporting that woman do make false claims? – no, I thought not.
confirmed
“Your search – site:bbc.co.uk rape falsely swansea – did not match any documents. ”
over last month
Third, remember the rules!
1) We must NOT tar ALL Muslims with the same brush just because thousands of them are child rapists.
2) We must however tar ALL men for the actions of someone in Hollywood.
You see, It makes perfect sense.
Personally I don’t give a flying frog about Harvey Watsisname. A couple of weeks ago I had never heard of him. Hollywood problems are not my problems. I don’t need to hear about it from the BBC. If I wanted to know I’d buy an “entertainment” rag. The casting couch has been an issue since the beginning of film making. Actresses wanted movie parts, money (and adoration) more than their self-respect. They closed ranks on this behaviour for years & now they want us all to have a melt down over it because it suits them. Who cares. They don’t even make good movies anymore. There are much more important things going on in the world.
Ex bbc economics ed and frequent bbc returning expert on stuff pronounces:
Now vying for bbc airspace with other bbc impartial analytical giants such as Ken, Tarzan, Newsnight freelancer Nick, and Alistair Campbell. With Frankie Boyle on the bleep button. Apparently.
James O’Brien is spoiled for choice.
What dear Paul is saying is that the Austrian Tories ,aka OVP , moved a little towards what the people of Austria wanted and were rewarded for it. This Paul is a successful political system that is called Democracy. It is based on something called the will of the people. I realise that this is not a system that you will know much about being a fully paid up Marxist but mark my words defeating it is only possible by the v igorous application of state violence and terror. But then I expect that you do know quite a lot about that sort of thing being a fully paid up Marxist.
No particular interest in Austrian election, Catalonia, etc.
But now I listen to the BBC ‘opinion’ and ‘message’ and decide the counter point is the correct one for my values.
Simples !
Why would it be so perfect to see a woman in the White House? It depends what sort of woman. They never said how wonderful it would be for Marine Le Pen to be president of France.
Obama’s election was meant to inspire heaven on Earth if you believed the liberal narrative, yet as his presidency drew to a close there were race riots and murders the likes of which we had not seen for decades.
Equally the Beeb told us Khan being elected Mayor of London was akin to an epiphany, proof that the promised multicultural utopia had arrived. Yet he is clearly incompetent; we have had an unprecedented number of terror attacks and his response that we should all just hug each other and pretend everything’s ok has all the reassuring effect of a tin shelter in a thunder storm.
The content of your character matters more than the colour of your skin, what’s between your legs or who you want to have sex with. Identity politics is not only absurd but also dangerous, as it creates an aristocracy where certain groups are immune from criticism. We can never demand that Muslim communities deal with the vipers amongst them as that would be thought crime, though it is the most pressing issue of our times. Political correctness is like AIDS for the mind, destroying our critical faculties. I am sick and tired of it.
‘I am sick and tired of it.’ – me to, but you have to keep pushing and reminding ourselves and others of what is happening.
This is the problem, one side is willing to protest, talk, shout and write about it constantly on the internet and in the papers and on the streets. But the other side think it’s a waste of time. But getting the good ideas out there will hopefully make a good change.
For me a good day will be when Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker sees that people can have a different opinion – ‘It’s hard to see a single positive (in BREXIT)‘. or Gary says why he doesn’t mind his wages being paid under threat of prison. Lineker has 6.66million twitter followers!
Adam Bienkov @AdamBienkov Oct 7 “These people are vultures.”
– Lineker retweets to his 6.66m audience regarding Nigel Farage and Katie Hopkins when they both equate the London Museum ‘incident’ (not attack) to terrorism.
It’s hard to see a single positive in Gary Lineker.
Why do celebrities see it as part of their role to tell us proles what to think? They had someone from One Direction – that renowned set of political philosophers – saying he was against Brexit. He probably thinks sovereignty is an eighties band.
Well said Beeby !
He is an opportunist. He was a goal hanger in his playing days and sees PC tweets as the way to ingratiate his employers and enjoy an easy and lucrative wind down of his career.
I would love to hear what he used to say on his Leicester market stall in the 1970s or on the Leicester home end as a teenage fan when a black opposition player scored the winner. Veg stall wasn’t it? So that’s where the bananas came from.
Beeb Bro
The question is, how do these people get into a position to lecture us from their pulpit in the MSM? Most of them have the ear and admiration of the young and by some “accident” they all seem to have the same world view. I think that whether they know it or not they are being cynically used to further the agenda of their owners in the manner of trained spaniels. They don’t seem to be aware that they are now doing the bidding of the Establishment which they are now so much a part of. Oh for the days when Rock ‘n’ Roll was rebellious! This lot are gutless.
Beeb Bro.
“Certain groups are immune from criticism” Very true. Who are these certain groups? I think somebody once opined “To discover out who rules over you, first you must find out who you are not permitted to criticise”
The Government –No we can be quite merciless with them.
Royalty—-No
The armed forces–No
The police– No
The Church of England –No
These are all groups one would associate with having power yet we are free to say whatever we like about them and we do without much of a comeback. I think I must have overlooked one or two groups who cannot be criticised without provoking a very virulent reaction indeed.
Political Correctness is doing to the West exactly what it was intended to.
Al
Political Correctness. Who Benefits? Not you and me.Not the majority of ordinary folks. We need to find out who is pushing this shit and why.
A heads up for what I expect the BBC to be doing in order to protect the liberal leftie luvvies in the wake of the Weinstein scandal.
It would appear that arch leftie luvvie George Clooney has been outed as a complete hypocrite over his denunciation of Weinstein, when another actress Vanessa Marquez accused Clooney of helping to have her blacklisted when she made claims of sexual harassment.
https://pagesix.com/2017/10/13/er-actress-calls-out-clooney-producer-in-misconduct-claim/
Clooney has hit back the only way the Fascist left know how, claiming that it is not a problem of the Leftie luvvies, but a problem inflicted on women by ALL white men !
“A good bunch of people that I know would say, ‘Yeah, Harvey’s a dog’ or ‘Harvey’s chasing girls’, but again, this is a very different kind of thing. This is harassment on a very high level. And there’s an argument that everyone is complicit in it. I suppose the argument would be that it’s not just about Hollywood, but about all of us – that every time you see someone using their power and influence to take advantage of someone without power and influence and you don’t speak up, you’re complicit. And there’s no question about that.”
“But on the other hand, maybe that’s what good will come out of this: that not just in Hollywood, although Hollywood is now the focus, but in all of these cases the victims will feel that they will be listened to, and that they don’t need to be afraid.”
“(Let’s just pull this one out. ‘I don’t think that people were looking the other way; I think that people weren’t looking, because in some ways, a lecherous guy with money picking up younger girls is unfortunately not a news story in our society.”
“The reality is that this is a problem deeply ingrained in our society. ”
“Hopefully, this kind of behavior will end – or become harder and harder for it to continue. What’s important now is that anybody who thinks that they can get away with doing that, they now have to think: Wait, somebody can be recording this or writing a story about it. I’m going to get in a lot of trouble. That’s good, because we’ve seen this type of behavior in politics, in Silicon Valley, and in corporate America. This is a big problem in our society, that people in power are taking advantage of people not in power – particularly powerful men with young women.”
So, caught red handed Clooney, instead of denying what he is accused of tries to suggest that this isn’t a problem of tinsel town, the media, or liberal luvvies, but society as a whole. While he is calling out Donald Trump for sexual harassment he and his friends have been doing exactly the same, except when it them it is as ever, different! With Trump it’s because he is intrinsically evil, with the Fascists it’s something to do with a nebulous imbalance of power, but hey there are several white wealthy men who can be slandered by using a wide brush to imply that almost all of them are guilty of using the power and wealth to sexually harass poor vulnerable women (odd how there are so few reports of these in the press though).
I was going to use this post as a heads up to watch for our favourite purveyor of bias to be using their positions to prove Clooneys point that it isn’t anything to do with the luvvie liberals specifically, it’s everyone’s fault! and right on cue with a post from StewGreen Radio 5 live has been doing just that !
Trying to shift the blame from themselves to society at large and in particular white wealthy men, this is left wing denial in action !
In reply, Hitchens asks you to consider the treatment of Kathleen Willey, a friend of the President (Bill Clinton) whose husband had died unexpectedly. She went to the Oval Office to ask for a job and was rewarded by ‘the guiding by the presidential mitt of her own hand on to his distended penis‘. When she spoke out, everyone believed her, although many wished she’d held her tongue. (No one automatically dismisses accusations against Clinton as preposterous even accusations of rape.) Willey was a wealthy, middle-aged woman who could not be dismissed as ‘trailer trash’, like so many of her predecessors. What was to be done? An anonymous voice phoned to inquire after the health of her children and the fate of a missing cat, and to point out that someone had driven nails into the tyres of her car. The voice belonged to a private eye who became so ashamed of his mission to terrify her he confessed to being hired by a millionaire, Nathan Landow, who had pushed pelf into Clinton ‘s coffers. {theguardian 09may1999}
“There is, as Hitchens says, a touch of the banana republic about Clinton ‘s America.”
Thoughtful,
The “liberal lefty luvvies” are all stamped the same, even over the centuries, certainly decades – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2544740/If-Germans-invade-welcome-PM-invite-Hitler-dinner-Bizarre-1937-letter-pacifist-Bertrand-Russell-set-sell-300.html
Listening to Michael Plain and Armando Iannucci discussing the new film comedy about Stalin was hilarious – not because of the film which does sound amusing but because they all skirted around the issue that nobody dare discuss.
When asked if everything was open to film and comedy you could feel the elephant in the room – and as Michael Paling has made a comedy about Jesus – or Brian – he was on sticky wicket – even when the presenter said ‘ everything?…..they used many words without saying anything and failed to mention Islam….or Mohammed… they all know they wouldn’t make a film about Mohammed with a real person playing him and certainly not a comedy…Why couldn’t they say it?
JamesArthur, I recall some years ago some comedians (Lee and Herring, I think) had made a sketch about Jesus which some viewers complained about. Asked by an interviewer if they would make a similar sketch about Muhammed, they replied something like ‘We may be comedians, but we’re not stupid’.
And that is why a religion has won the hearts and minds of the people … mockery will be directed to anything but Islam. Islam is now protected by our own self-regulation.
That very sentence says how our thought processes have changed from daring to challenge anyone including the President of the United States, to challenge everything except Islam … ‘We may be comedians, but we’re not stupid (in mocking Mohammed)’.
We don’t even need to go as far as mockery, which might be seen as bad manners, just to question.
“So this god of yours, that created the universe and everything, including you and me, after millions of years thought we were getting it wrong and decided the best way was to write a book of rules?”
“Seems to me that this all-knowing, all-powerful god could have done something really fantastic, like carve out the words on the side of Mount Everest, or just hang them in the sky. You’ve got to admit it was pretty dumb giving the job to someone who couldn’t read and write and who spoke a language used by hardly anyone else. Not only that, when he got it written down they left out all the vowels so no-one is really sure what all the words mean anyway”.
“Given how powerful this god is, why didn’t he make people perfect in the first place?”
I can’t help but think of Bob Newhart and his Walter Raleigh sketch.
Where’s the fun in that .. where’s the comedy derived from all that suffering?
If their god was so clever he/she would have had his people invent refrigeration BCE (Before Common Era – Ha!) so his/her followers could enjoy the wonders of the bacon sandwich!
Given the event that changed the new dating suffix from BCE to CE, I prefer:
BCE – Before Christian Era
CE – Christian Era
The BBC can be as common as it likes, I’m Christian.
I prefer good old BC and AD.
And BP (Before Present i.e. 1950)
RJ, that is excellent. I am going to use that from now on, and if any Snowflakes correct me and say it is the ‘common era’ I shall say ‘you are assuming that the birth of Christ is the common starting point for dates, which is offensive to other religions which have their own dating systems’.
It’s not so much the mockery that annoys me. Until the 1960s no popular comedian could have publicly mocked Jesus and got away with his career intact. We have always had religious taboos. It’s the hypocrisy (motivated mainly by fear) that makes me angry. All religions are fair game except one, and that’s the one that is in most need of taking down a peg or two with some satire!
Re : Munroe Bergdorf racist diatribe on BBC This Week Oct 12th
MB: “The uncomfortable truth is that the white race is the most violent and oppressive force of nature on earth.”
@Pcar has put up a video https://vid.me/7DM35
And a rather long comment, that you can read if you can navigate to his post Oct 15, 2017 at 11:57 PM on the Bishop-Hill.net Unthreaded page
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/unthreaded
Stew,
In other words chick with a dick acts like a prick. Do you think the bBC would give the time and day to a white bloke who said that all black people are violent. No they wouldn’t, yet prick features (who is somehow portrayed as only a victim simply because he likes to play dress up) is given as much airtime as possible in which to promote his racist agenda.
I saw this on Channel 4 last night – disgusting race baiting. Why is she not arrested? She should try going a day without all the things white people invented if she thinks they are so terrible. No tv, electricity, internet, cars, planes, computers or countless other things that have enhanced our lives.
Radio4 line up as it appears on screen
9:45 – Russian revolution – 10 parts of 15 minute dramas *
10am : Woman’s Hour : Hillary Clinton, Lesley Sharp, BBC 100 Women
10:45 Book of the Week 1/5 Sarah Millican
11:00 – Toynbee at war : Polly Toynbee (Guardian) examines how war profoundly informed the vision of her grandfather
11:30 – Susan Calman (very very lesbian & alleged comedian)
* There’s another show 8pm Bolsheviks in London
Can the BBC just send me a letter when they’ve twisted the BBC to meet their demands?
Remember this is what guides the BBC editorial content ….
“By 2020, the BBC wants its employees to comprise 50% women, 8% disabled people, 8% lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people and 15% people from black, Asian and ethnic minority backgrounds.{bbc.co.uk 14sep2017}””
What happens if your a black trans in a wheel chair does that count?
Why can’t their focus be to make quality programmes?
A surprise to see film industry person saying sensible on the BBC5 facebook phonein article comments.
Basically she has a prevention strategy of giving out `no nonsense` signals and not accepting having the door closed when alone working with a male etc.
Has ‘trolling’ become an endangered sport these days?
Years ago, there were some rumours in the press, about someone high up in the country doing nasties or something, and, as usual, the BBBC didn’t cover the story, or even know anything about it, so I tried a search on another engine.
The answer I was looking for came from a site called ‘Throne Out’, which turned out to be a Republican anti-monarchy site, with some very colourful posters, and also a resident troll called Luke. I actually quite liked the bloke, as he never took umbrage, and got so many of the more violent poster in paroxysms of rage! It was often very funny too!
There were a few others as well, but real trolls seem to be a dying breed nowadays, and as I’m still relatively new to this great site, although I’ve run my own blog for years, I sometimes wonder (when I’ve got absolutely nothing to do), if any of the original trolls are still around!
I think a lot of the trolling abuse we hear so much about is self-inflicted to gain the currency of victimhood; just send yourself some threatening tweets and you get more funding. I am certain professional victims like Anita Sarkesian trolled themselves and as a result she is coining it.
Most online abuse is from women towards other women they do not like, though we never hear anything about that hate fact from the Beeb.
Scrobie, like you I haven’t been around here that long so I only remember ‘zero’ and ‘manonclaphamomnibus’.
When I viewed and then joined the BBC politics & economics Blogs, there were a couple of famous and notorious Trolls, thewritingsonthewall and Jacques Cartier, if I’ve remembered the latter’s name correctly.
The first was banned by BBC Moderators so many times that when he was allowed to return, after a suitable penalty period – or when he did so from another PC/ISP with a name change variation on the original, that eventually his moniker was reduced to writings and then to wotw.
Not just Trolls but I find I occasionally wonder what happened to the genuine people behind the posting names.
Interesting and thank you, Beeb and Up!
I don’t post on the BBC site, perhaps I should, but as a self-confessed non-listener, I only get my news from here, and a few free online rags, which is quite sufficient!
When I first posted on a very funny site about twelve years ago, I thought it was clever to get ‘cross’, and soon learnt that it wasn’t, especially as there were no politics involved. Having learned the hard way, it was quite easy to do the job properly, and back then trolls were often called sock-puppets which is a rare term these days!
One great chap, Old Holborn, used to meet all his posters in a pub in London every now and then and I missed all those sessions, which may have saved my liver, but I wish I’d been there! Perhaps trolls have their own website where they all troll each other, and get annoyed and frustrated especially as nobody really cares a monkeys about them!
You’d think at seventy, I’d have grown up by now..;0)
Scrob’ – something about the name Old Holborn rings a bell but I can’t remember from where.
Do you recall the name of the site he used to post on?
There are still a fair few trolls on Disqus, the comments system for sites like Breitbart. I agree there don’t seem to be as many these days. I think a lot have moved to Facebook and Twitter. The Spectator page on Facebook, for example, seems largely inhabited by embittered leftists whose main activity is to abuse people like Jacob Rees Mogg with sixth-form level insults. Of course on here we still get visits from our very own Maxincony!
Teddy, Old Holborn used to make a lot of sense on Guido, (Order Order) and did have his own site, which doesn’t seem to be around any more, which is a shame!
Ooops, several replies below too…:0(
Cheers Scrob’ 🙂
I remember Old Holborn from Guido’s site, and I remember going on an organised visit to the HoC with him and a group of right thinkers. With age comes wisdom, says another 70 year old, since last week!
Thanks Peter – perhaps it was there.
Happy belated birthday greetings and may your expansion long continue 🙂
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.co.uk/2008/07/old-holborn-is-going-for-walk.html
Thanks for the link Peter – a blast from the past.
I hope all is well with him despite not posting now.
You may find him on twitter https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz
Thanks anyway Bones but I don’t use Twitter
A surprise to see film industry WOMAN Sandra Shevey saying sensible on the BBC5 facebook phonein article comments.
Basically she has a prevention strategy of giving out `no nonsense` signals and not accepting having the door closed when alone working with a male etc.
Can this be true? A BBC presenter pointing out that there are more than 28 countries in the rest of the world!
‘That’s a bit over the top!’ Arch-Remoaner Ken Clarke slapped down by BBC host over Brexit – Express
https://apple.news/AyE3EkLD4PQilgej494Vgxg
World at One.
It is “feared” that the winner of the Austrian general election will form the next government.
Did I hear right? A fear of democracy?
Subliminal fake news – the BBBC invented it!
The way to read their stuff is to think the opposite, and you’ll sleep well, enjoy life, and be able to think of the good things going on around you!
You have to forget ever hearing anything on the BBBC, they’re just awful.
(Sermon over)
Scroblene,
“…think the opposite…”. Yes, and, ‘what is the BBC trying to achieve in this article of news’ is top of my list. Once you appreciate the BBC driving ideology on any particular subject, whatever the item is, it suddenly all becomes totally predicable.
Absolutely, G!
One hears what they say, (Well I rarely do, but on occasions, I hear the stuff on R5Dead), understand what they’ve said, think the opposite, and it all becomes clear!
The BBBC will try all manner of broadcasting tricks, but they ain’t ever going to get old Scrobs again!
Rwanda election: President Paul Kagame wins by landslide {bbc.co.uk 05aug2017}
“Former guerrilla leader praised for bringing stability and growth after genocide but criticised as authoritarian wins third term”
– 99% is what World leaders dream of getting for a vote!
– Wonder what the 1% thought?
– The European Union official was very happy ….
‘“The world has important lessons to learn from Rwanda,” gushed a European Union official. Embassy observers hailed it as the most orderly vote they had witnessed in their careers.{theguardian 03jan2016}‘
MM,
You mean this Rwanda?
https://www.hrw.org/report/2017/10/10/we-will-force-you-confess/torture-and-unlawful-military-detention-rwanda
But the EU “official” would say that wouldn’t he?
Human Rights Watch wrote a second time to the NCHR, in August 2017, but received no response (see Appendix III) {hrw.org 10oct2017}
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Then there’s the 99 percent club, which includes the Castro brothers, and Kim Jong Il. Saddam Hussein went for the full 100 percent in 2002, but then again, he was overthrown a year later. (Why a dictator decides between winning by 97 percent or 99 percent isn’t quite clear.)
That’s the real problem with democracy and the will of the people – it cannot be guaranteed 100% to subvert the will of the people.
https://bbcwatch.org/2017/10/16/bbc-news-ignores-missile-attack-from-sinai-for-fifth-time-this-year/
Maybe the Gazans should rename their Grads and Katushkas ‘Harveys’ and ‘Weinsteins’ and the bbc would not shut up about them?
Mind you bbc editorial integrity did mean they barely went near NK popping a frigging icbm across Japan, other than to berate Trump for ‘sabre rsttling’.
The sky has gone all dark brown in Kent. As if the sun has been covered by a sepia filter. Very eerie looking.
Hey Lucy!
I’ve just been discussing exactly that with Mrs O’Blene!
It’s the 30th anniversary of Michael Fish’s cock up tonight, and we well remember what that did! My car finished up under a high brick wall, the power was off for days, and we had to eat in the greenhouse…
Needless to say, our wireless wasn’t on, so we were saved the rest of the wailing from the TV, which was nice!
Without giving the game away, we’re SE of T. Wells, and it’s gone very muggy, and weird, plus a bloody great jet flew over us at nought feet, and frightened the life out of all of us here, well, me, Mrs O’Blene and the dog…
Yes LP! It was like that here in Wiltshire all morning and into the early hours of the afternoon, except that I would describe the sky as a sickly yellow. It reminded me a little of the weird light achieved by an eclipse 🙁
Curiously the BBC says it is due to dust from the Sahara and the Met. Office ‘mostly from forest fires in the Iberian peninsula’.
I think it is ‘populism’ in Catalonia, or ‘Trump’ or Brexit but most definitely ‘climate change’.
It’s to do with Brexit I think. Levels of pollution have shot up now that people realise they can ignore the EU laws that have been keeping our air clear for so many years.
We should get a comprehensive explanation of the weather from all those BBC scientists with degrees in gender studies
Things BBC forget to report
“Taliban say they get cash from Putin”
Times front page
But the Yanks did all sorts of similar things when the roles were reversed.
Just drop in books from the planes, followed by books then more books until the land is littered in books. Until they have to read their way out of their 7th century thought …
As described here. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4985116/Hurricane-creates-red-sun-skies-England.htm
According to The Daily Mail the Met. Office says:-
“Clean air scatters blue light more than red wavelengths, explaining why the midday sky normally appears blue.
But when there is dust in the air – as there is today – the blue light is scattered, making the sky appear red.”
So in clean air the blue is scattered making the sky blue but in dirty air the blue is scattered making the sky red.
Orwell Corporation say : Impartiality= “Political Campaigning”
Real world people say ‘pushing green activist dogma is POLITICAL ”
Attenborough plastics,
What’s his problem? We recycle. I personally recycle all my plastic bottles. There is a council collection and also there are big recycling bins in the town centre. Hardly anything is “single use”. I suppose he is campaigning to milk more money from the ‘little people’ in the form of a plastic bottle tax. I’ll bet he throws things away all the time.
It’s very kind of someone who has flown around the world with camera crews for the last fifty years to lecture us on pollution!
Can the BBC go through David’s bins at work and at home for a month and report back using it’s £3.5bn news service?
And what happens to all those champagne bottles in the corridors of W1A?
(Let’s hope they celebrate with a cheaper champers, sold in two litre plastic bottles)…
Still waiting for the BBC to do a Stephen Lawrence on that case of the 17-year-old sexually assauled 3 times within an hour in Tower Hamlets the most Muslim borough in Britain. I’m sure they must realise the significance of unprecedented events like this and give it wall to wall coverage until the population has grasped the full import.
As John Moloney puts it: ‘Take out Islamic terrorism (which often specifically targets women) from the evils that Islam has brought to Britain and just about everything else is a form of woman hating. A far from comprehensive list would include: industrial scale rape gangs and the related taharrush gamea (the rape game), FGM, honour killings, endemic wife and girlfriend beating, intimidation of ‘white sluts’ in Muslim areas and forced marriage. Islam is women hating almost to the extent that Nazism is Jew hating.’ The rest at:http://bit.ly/1SFKdCZ
I can’t wait till the BBC shows these barbarians up for the misogynists they trully are. The only thing is … why is it taking so long? I guess they’re mobilising their journos now for an assault on the Islamic Republic of Tower Hamlets…
Alex
Oh No! No! No! Dear Alex. Don’t you see? This is all part of the Fat Controller’s agenda
Sub judice excuse
Mariella Frostrup to Hillary – I’m a feminist but if you’ve ever let me down it’s your failure to speak up for the women who came forward to say your husband hit upon them.
Hillary replied “that was a difficult time”
WTF say sorry you stupid woman
Orwell Corp still run with the “Pay Gap” distraction trick
And we don’t know most big pay, due to the Hustler’s trick
#PersonalServiceCompany
https://www.twitter.com/simonajrobinson/status/919590429930283010
Labour vows to close ‘tax scams’ used by mega-rich {citywire.co.uk 25sep2017}
“Labour has vowed to close tax loopholes used by the wealthy.
In a speech at the party’s annual conference in Brighton, shadow chancellor John McDonnell (pictured) said he wanted to ensure the rich and corporations ‘pay their way’ if Labour manages to wrestle power from the Conservatives.
‘To pay for those public services we’ll close the tax loopholes and the tax avoidance scams (used) by the mega rich,’ McDonnell said. ”
– For the Many, But Not for You!
Question, have the offers from sky and itv been rolling in for all the poor underpaid bbc ladies??
It is essential in any Brexit deal with the EU, that the BBC be re-quartered and re-located to mainland Europe.
There is no place for this dinosaur in Post-Brexit Britain.
Female names to be removed from ships ?
I await the first transgender Barbie. Oh wait ….
“First Transgender Doll Modeled After Teen Advocate Jazz Jennings {fortune.com 24feb2017}
“In the midst of a national debate over transgender rights, a New York doll company has unveiled a transgender doll, the first of its kind, modeled after advocate Jazz Jennings.”
“I know that growing up, I had it really hard because I wasn’t allowed to use the girls’ restroom. I faced discrimination at such an early age, and I didn’t understand why I was being treated differently,” Jennings said in a video on Wednesday.
‘I know times are hard for our community, but if we just stay united, then we will one day achieve the equality that we deserve,’ she added.”
Does it come with removable parts? 😉
How about really triggering the sgws and the UN. Sure, let’s have an African train, a white South African Train called Voortrekker!
I guess they should be looking for people with real problems in Africa really soon …
Albinos are being hunted in Africa and ‘harvested’ for their body parts (by witch doctors) {metro.co.uk feb2017}
“In Tanzania alone 75 albinos have been killed since 2000 and in Malawi 18 have been murdered since 2014. Malawian albinos claim they are targeted because locals believe they have ‘healing’ powers and their limbs can bring luck.”
First episode features a race between Thomasina the Feminist Tank Engine and Berty the Transgender Bendy Bus. Of course it ends as a dead heat because, in the non-judgemental world of the guilt-ridden hand-wringing liberal, we’re ALL winners.
Hollywood Hypocrisy
They also gave Polanski an Academy Award in 2003 despite the fact he’d given drugs to, raped and sodomized a thirteen year old girl in 1977; then left the U.S. to avoid prosecution – nice folk these Hollywood types, aren’t they?
Apologies if it has been mentioned, but I see the Beeb website is running with the story of a white paedophile – the implication being that this problem is equally prevalent amongst the indigenous population as amongst ROPers. There is a world of difference between the inevitable but extremely rare weirdo and a deep-seated cultural practice where any non Muslim girl who is not covered up and protected by a father is seen as fair game; it is so acceptable that you get all your mates and family in and have rape parties. I bet this white man acted alone.
Has someone decided they must search out as many cases of white paedophiles as possible and run with them prominently? This has happened on numerous occasions recently.
There are no words to convey the depths of my disgust.
How can a doll be a tranny? The picture shows a female looking doll with a slightly mannish but still feminine face – but there are plenty of completely normal heterosexual women that look like that. If my memories of sneaking a look at my sister’s dollies are correct, dolls don’t have ‘parts’ anyway. Or does this doll have some kind of detachable parts so that children can play at ‘transitioning’?
High heels. Magenta beret. Sorted.
Probably smarter than Diane Abbott and Emily Thornbury combined.
A combination of Abbott and Thornberry is not a very nice concept at all. Push Izzard between them as a sort of sandwich filling and the picture is simply too much to conceive – if that’s the right word.
IIRC Pesto learned his craft at the BBC.
Funnily enough, in an age of PC, frightened rabbit homogeneity, I find that image rather awesome.
That image reminds me of those maps from 1940 which showed the whole of Europe under the nazi jackboot, except Britain.
One ring to rule them all … except them with the Union Jack.
“… because they (EU Commission) talk in generalities. You hear it very frequently in European speeches. You must of heard it many times. I’m one of the few people who says ‘What do you mean by that?. What do you mean by European Union? What do you mean by monetary union? What do you mean by United States of Europe? What do you mean? What do you mean?’ ” – Margaret Thatcher {@00:59 bbc.co.uk}
Good to see someone doesn’t mind the Union Jack flag …
Ah. Lady Nugee…makes Diane Abbott look like a wonderful human being 🙁
Well, it would appear to me that despite being alone, the British flag still manages to be out in front!
Who would have thought Robert Peston was in fact a proud patriot?
As a joke, we Brexiteers could go to the European Commission in Brussels
and replace the other 27 EU flags with the flags of Anguilla, Australia, Bermuda, British Antarctic Territory, British Columbia, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Cook Islands, Falkland Islands, Manitoba, Montserrat, New South Wales, New Zealand, Niue, Ontario, Pitcairn Islands, Queensland, Saint Helena, South Australia, South Georgia & South Sandwich Islands, Tasmania, Tristan Da Cunha, Turks & Caicos Islands, Tuvalu, Victoria and Western Australia.
We would have to exclude the flags of Fiji and Hawaii because they are republics, and there aren’t enough flag pools for them.
Could we add Canada to that list if Canada is approprate ??
Small order of popcorn required?
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/justin-webb-nick-robinson-is-paid-100000-a-year-more-than-me-to-do-the-same-job/?
Maybe more once the girls figure out they do ‘the same job’, albeit to about the same degrees of competence, too.
@Guest when reposting a tweet that quotes another
you need to also post the quoted tweet
Here from @BBCJamesCook BBC News North America Correspondent. Ex-Scotland Correspondent.
Does the hyperlink not do that, and suffice?
I do wonder what category of fake news is this current pice of crap about May going to dinner with Juncker and Barnier.
It has no bearing at all on March 2019-only the BBC and its licensed remainiacs and spitball moaners could possibly regard this tittle tattle and rune reading as mattering.
Vince Cables opinion of seating arrangements, Campbells view on whether Brussels is pouring vinegar or a cheeky red is of NO value to me-only to Norman Smith.
This is fake news-code wind pink…it should not be getting packed and patted like it is news.
It`s only meant to encourage the traitors.
April 1st 2019-force the BBC out of this country, make them a pirate radio site for migrants to practice their swordmanship…but do NOT let the BBC stay in this country one day longer than necessary-they`re now Eurovision, they are not British.
Juncker was in well-oiled form before the meal, making his equally gifted and statesman-like friends on each side dissolve in fits of giggles when he said ‘….and after the meal, we have the autopsy!’
Snigger away piss-head.
On mad Green Religion in Australia
From @HotScot : A victory, it seems, for common sense :
“Cabinet dumps Clean Energy Target for new ‘affordable, reliable’ power plan”
“A Clean Energy Target recommended by Australia’s chief scientist will not be adopted, with the Federal Government instead proposing a new plan to bring down electricity prices.”
And further down the page: “MP suggests Paris target delay”
They are loving reporting on the unusual sky – a wonderfully safe subject. In thirty years the weather will probably be all we are allowed to have an opinion about.
I’m just watching Police Academy with my nephews. Such great fun and really funny but it could never be made now. The sexy officer would be deemed too ‘objectified’; the hilarious Blue Oyster gay bar scenes would be ‘homophobic’; the wonderfully off-kilter guy with a speech impediment would be seen as mocking the mentally ill; I’m sure some professional victim would find a way of being offended by the fantastic black guy who does all those sound effects.
Beeb Brother, if you think that’s bad you should check out an early 1970s ITV comedy play on Youtube called ‘A Bit of a Lift’. The basic plot is that a woman is tricked into having sex with a man under extremely false pretences that would nowadays be called rape – but then says she enjoyed it so much that she wants to meet him again!
Beeb Brother,
I don’t suppose the gun-happy cop in that movie would find much favour today either!
There was a saying for the formula for films of that kind in the eighties that went something like, “Defy authority, destroy property and take people’s clothes off!” They were pretty lowbrow but they were fun – more than I can say for anything I’ve seen on the BBC of late.
I seem to recall that the BBC showed The Dukes of Hazzard on Saturday evenings, Stars and Bars and all. It was never a favourite of mine but as it’s boycotted all over the place now, I might have to seek it out on DVD – as a minor act of rebellion. Yeee-Haah!
Trick, I don’t think Rising Damp would get much exposure either! Even early Del Boys would be edited…
But that’s what the BBBC stands for, wiping out history.
W-one-k Show – AKA Virtue Signal Central
– Grenfell solidarity march : like 5 minutes of it
… basically a Left wing march
– Original Black folk singer Paul Robson ..and civil rights etc.
Good job the Blitz generation weren’t compensation and benefits graspers. Bombed out of own homes, death and destruction all around, often could not return for many years.
I guarantee most every Grenfeller will claim for PTS and then quietly go off and build property portfolios with all the compensation.
I run a small finance advisory firm and see cheating on an endemic scale, it truly is depressing.
Many towns housing stock is owned by 1 particular group that are adept at showing no earnings, often their wives on benefits and yet I then find these same blokes buying property for cash at auction.
Torybushhug,
“I run a small finance advisory firm and see cheating on an endemic scale….”
Department of Work and Pensions, ‘Whistleblowers’ line: 0800-854440.