644 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread

  1. MarkyMark says:

    I am officially worried … if David Lammy does not know what evidence is verses testimony …

    “Again you have said the official death toll is far far too low. You have no evidence for that.”- Andrew O’Neil

    “Well my evidence is something you don’t have Andrew, which is the testimony of the people.” – David Lammy

    “With respect that is not evidence.” – Andrew O’Neill

    “Testimony of people from people who lived in the block is pretty good evidence. Isn’t it?” – David Lammy

    “It would be evidence in a court of law?” – David Lammy

    “No, no, because we need evidence to show that the official death toll is far far too low. And you don’t have that.” – Andrew O’Neill

    “It would be evidence in a court of law?” – David Lammy

    He (David Lammy) studied at the School of Law, School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, obtaining an upper second
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lammy

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      Lammy, is just a joke. He should avoid appearing on TV but seems immune to the realisation of what a fool he’s making of himself.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      Thank you for that Marky. I always thought Lammy was just a thick twat because of the nonsense he has said in the past. But he is clearly a malicious, nasty piece of work making political capital ot of a dreadful tragedy.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      sOAs probably gave him a 2 1 for fear of allegations . His words tell the truth – that he is not the sharpest knife in the box . Unless of course he can claim racist bullying by the nasty right wing al beeb . He probably does know what his supporters want to hear . SOAS isn’t famed for its legal department

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  2. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Daily politics discussing where to put parliament during the renovations.

    My suggestion:

    Wormwood Scrubs.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Manny
      Dante’s Inferno? Might be a bit warm but if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. So Phukem

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      Calais jungle I`d have thought?
      Send the gutless 600 over to Calais on a few dinghies like a mock Dunkirk in re-enactment.
      And strap Soubry to the prow as a gargoyle, so she stays out of the duty free as the spume slops round her pixie boots. SHE would at least scare the lapins de Jungle from coming here.
      Win win. Whinge whinge though.
      Make this generous gift of our woolsack stuffers our token sop to the Remainers, whilst the rest of us recreate a new politics.
      Why not Sunderland or Sheffield-anywhere where the REAL people of this country voted to get their country back!

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  3. StewGreen says:

    (Trump supporter) Roger Stone on R4Today …Is this the Lawson stunt repeated ?
    (Where they put on Gore , and later Lawson with a 1/3 of the time
    but that covers them against allegations of imbalance.
    They then had multiple rebites of the cherry as they apologised on 3 occasions for ever airing Lawson)

    “This is how democracy gets eroded, with the BBC normalising Roger Stone”
    by BBC’s Jonathan Freedland
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/31/bbc-radio-4-john-humphrys-roger-stone-donald-trump

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  4. Guest Who says:

    In which the bbc inspects the bbc’s navel, and does indeed find belly button fluff.

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    • Guest Who says:

      There is also now ‘Carrie Gracie Love’, which date not ever stop speaking.

      Apparently.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “the #BBC should be and in many ways is – the NHS for the nation’s brain”
      ..Just like the NHS it’s demographic represents how foreigners got a toehold and then departments became a clique as they invited their mates in to work.
      Meanwhile the management class became overloaded and wasteful.

      @voiceofpeasonb tweeted
      Oh Jesus. You aren’t half up your own fundament, aren’t you? The BBC is basically the Guardian read aloud, funded by a broadcasting Poll Tax.

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  5. Guest Who says:

    Good value:

    Tony earning his market rate less than competently, per expectation.

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  6. Loobyloo says:

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42890261

    Really, is this what we’ve come too – no grid girls, glam girls in darts, boxing etc. How is Vegas going to deal with this…Moulin Rouge? Or more pertinently Cheerleaders? It is now considered a sport in itself, accepted at schools and colleges. Beauty pageants? Mr Universe?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yes strange how burlesque in popular in liberal circles.
      One rule for the pigs , one rule for the other animals

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    • Up2snuff says:

      I was amused but also saddened that Carolyn then brought on for a comment a Left-on (I guess describing the woman as ‘right-on’ might be considered offensive these days), Guardian columnist/reader/something or other, who obviously did not know what the word ‘misogynist’ means, as demonstrated by her misuse of it.

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  7. Loobyloo says:

    Why ‘Phantom Thread’ is a feminist movie – cos they all MUST be from now on.

    ‘The film has sparked a debate about toxic masculinity, with some reviewers suggesting Alma and Reynolds have an abusive relationship.’
    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42807440

    So, we can’t make movies that discuss negative issues? That bring light to issues which need open discussion? What about films which show toxic femininity? Fatal attraction etc. Dear me, someone please put a stop to this insanity!

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Loobyloo
      We must not make films that depict the truth. Got that? Now get back to your knitting sir.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      ‘Toxic masculinity’ does seem to be dish of the day. Two years ago the media was horrified by the ‘abyss’ we faced after brexit. Last month everything was served with lashings of ‘backlash’.

      I’ll personally buy an egg sandwich for the first person who uses the phrase ‘toxic backlash abyss’ in an interview or article.

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  8. taffman says:

    \\The killer whale that can say ‘hello’ and ‘bye bye’//
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-42877067
    ‘Joey’ my budgie could do much better .

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Can it say ‘bye bye BBC’? Or other words to that effect.

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    • ID says:

      The Today programme seemed very excited by a “killer whale using its blow hole to mimic human speech”. What’s all the fuss about? Ken Clark has been doing that for decades and Clegg is not far behind in his mastery.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Taffman
      This is true. No bullshit. My parents are long gone but knowing them they will not mind me relating this little story. They were quite earthy folks.
      My older sister who was about 19 years old at the time brought home her new Dutch boyfriend. After introductions they set about admiring our budgie. Mum opined that the budgie could say the word fuck. After a few seconds of encouragement the budgie duly obliged and Mum nonchalantly quipped “There you are, I told you.” Big sister was not amused but -heyho- a year later the couple were married. The moral of this story is – there ain’t one. It is just -a true story. And that’s why I am like I am. Dirty minded. It’s genetic like so much else.

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      • taffman says:

        Lefty Wright
        Suggest you contact BBC with that story, they are looking for some ‘news’ to bury ‘other’ news under.
        😀

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        • Lefty Wright says:

          taffman
          No. They’ll only sex it up so it appears my Mum was fucking the next door neighbour’s wife.

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        • TrickCyclist says:

          Taffman,
          I would imagine many Beeboids would be familiar with the terms “Friends with Benefits” and “F*ck Buddies.”
          Not “F*ck Budgies.”

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  9. Loobyloo says:

    An update to the ‘Boiling crustaceans should be outlawed’ story –
    it’s been moved to the Europe section – why? Which is ironic, cos they certainly won’t be outlawing it there, anytime in the next millenium.

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  10. Pounce says:

    Another Muslim rapist jailed , not reported by the cock suckers at the bBC:
    Ahmed jailed for raping a woman at gunpoint

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  11. Beeb Brother says:

    It would be great if Trump tweeted the memo in full. That really would be dynamite and the slugs in the MSM would struggle to spin it.

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  12. Thoughtful says:

    Well here is the latest climate news:

    Southern Morocco Under Snow for First Time

    Snow in Tenerife Saudi Arabia, Israel, and Lebanon !

    http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2018/01/239497/zagoura-ouarzazate-taroudant-snow/

    Ouarzazatte-neige-1-1.jpg

    And in other news:

    This was unexpected. Alarmists are starting to eat their own over Trump. From “Scientific American”, a once great magazine.

    Bill Nye Does Not Speak for Us and He Does Not Speak for Science

    By attending the State of the Union with NASA administrator nominee Jim Bridenstine, the Science Guy tacitly endorses climate denial, intolerance and attacks on science

    Tonight, Bill Nye “The Science Guy” will accompany Republican Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK), Trump’s nominee for NASA
    Administrator, to the State of the Union address. Nye has said that he’s accompanying the Congressman to help promote space exploration, since, he asserts, “NASA is the best brand the United States has” and that his attendance “should not be … seen as an acceptance of the recent attacks on science and the scientific community.”

    Don’t expect to see anything on the BBC anytime soon though

    Oh & Just to add, it’s Summer down under and even Tasmania has had snow !

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Thoughtful
      Tough. Maybe we can have some of their sunshine for a change. They’ve hogged it long enough. Viva global warming, lets grow some worthwhile oranges in the UK. UP YOURS GORE!

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  13. StewGreen says:

    New from RT
    ‘BBC not fulfilling obligation to public’: Chief of think-tank behind channel’s Brexit bias claim

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    • taffman says:

      StewGreen
      The message from the RT ?
      Al Beeb and our politicians are not listening. The people have voted – we voted out !

      ‘Oh look . There’s a Blue Moon over there!’

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  14. MarkyMark says:

    BREAKING: BBC report that a Killer Whale would have chosen LEAVE over REMAIN. Labour to deny Killer Whales the vote.

    Killer whale could be saying ‘set me free’ {bbc.co.uk 31jan2018}

    ** sorry, could not resist.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Mark
      Well, the animal worshipers do seem to think that the beasts have more intelligence than humans. So on the subject of freedom I have to bow to the higher opinion of the Killer Whale but on everything else -name your subject- I do have this nagging reservation——–

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  15. Beeb Brother says:

    Diane Abbot, David Lammy and others should be in an ‘X Factor’ style show to crown the nation’s greatest public moron. Each week they compete to offer the most moronic policy ideas for different subjects: law and order; education; international relations.

    Lily Allen could be one of the judges.

    “Sorry, David – your idea to ban all white people from Oxbridge is good but you did not mention refugees enough.”

    “Great idea to have 5 million Police in London and pay them a pound each, Diane, but why should we have Police at all? Got to feel the love, man!”

    Lammy against Abbot in the final – that could be some contest. My money would be on Lammy.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Kiri drama on Channel 4
    … look away now if you don’t want a spoiler
    There’s a killer and a poor falsely accused
    one is black one is white
    which way would Channel 4 make it ?
    yep you guessed right

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  17. Holly Selassie says:

    Am NOT going to listen to an hour of Corbyns favourite lefty-Maxine Peake-spouting about black kids getting tosee a total eclipse. But was happy to put a bit of Holst on the CD, as I enjoyed most of the pictures.
    Now then.
    1. Does watching but not listening only halve the amount of TV licence I ought to pay(if I paid one…ha!)
    2. Does the BBC intend to offer me an “honesty box scheme” -where I put a small contribution into Gary Lineckers box outside any one of his conveniently placed mansions-indeed Graham Norton or any accredited useless media trougher who is accredited?
    Just saying…

    Jermaine Jenas` box would get a more generous amount from me. BUt we can all nominate and choose as we like.
    Half price for Phil Neville as per.

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  18. fakenewswatcher says:

    Ms May is going to fight AGAINST the EU FOR Britain. Wow! On freedom of movement, even. After 2019. Must be something in the water in China. Wonder how long this strange effect lasts?
    Could this be part of Brexit being Brexit..? Could something actually happen? Can someone make a note of this?
    Will Ms May remember by the time she gets back?
    This is really exciting.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Who says terrorist victims should come to him ?
    yep Brendan Cox the leader of the hate-filled vigilante group
    with apattern of some member wearing black masks and carrying out violence and getting arrested

    @MrBrendanCox
    Please Retweet: Anyone who has been injured or bereaved by a terror attack and wants to be part of fighting extremism please join us.
    Facebook video

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  20. Dover Sentry says:

    The recent Dunkirk movie.

    The ‘Germans’ were never mentioned. The word ‘enemy’ was used throughout.

    A casual observer may have thought that the ‘enemy’ were perhaps ‘Methodists’?

    Why the airbrush? The risk of offending a nation that tried to conquer and destroy Europe twice last century?

    And a nation that now rules Europe economically and politically?

    This link is interesting:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/dunkirk-hollow-history-germans-mentioned-article-1.3372370

    “”The movie’s omissions are not inadvertent. Director Christopher Nolan said he didn’t want to make “something that wasn’t relevant to today’s audiences.”

    So there you have it. Dunkirk censored to risk causing offence. Our EU masters rule.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      What I’ve learnt from the BBC is that the Germans had nothing to do with the second world war.

      WW2 was started by the Nazi’s who came from Nazi land. All the Germans hated the Nazis and had nothing to do with them. When the war ended all the Nazis and Nazi land vanished – forever.

      The first world war was started by the British, who are always responsible.

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      • Al Shubtill says:

        “One day the great European war will come out of some damn foolish thing in the Balkans.”
        Otto Von Bismarck (17 years before it did)

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    • TrickCyclist says:

      Dover,
      One of the problems with movies is that no matter how seriously they are intended, in the end they are all basically fantasies.
      I’ve seen comments on forums lately to the effect that “oh, the British only escaped from Dunkirk because the French army protected them.” I’m sure this is based on the depiction in the opening scenes of this movie. Also, correct me if I’m wrong but weren’t the BEF still fighting in France weeks after Dunkirk?
      Another thing that occurred to me when I saw the film was that the British soldiers in it were much like the teen-aged conscript characters of the Vietnam movies of the eighties. Well, why not? Christopher Nolan was born in 1970. Surely Britain’s professional army who joined up in the ’30s wouldn’t have been like this?
      Arthur C. Clarke said that reading science fiction is a bad way to learn about science. Obviously, watching war movies is a bad way to learn about history.

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  21. Guest Who says:

    The national broadcaster of the United Kingdom:

    “Meet the woman who creates beauty looks with dead insects. ????????????”

    So proud.

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  22. Beeb Brother says:

    Big article about being LGBT at work. Who has even the slightest issue with homosexuality these days? And even if someone did have a problem they would know expressing any issue would ruin them.

    I just want colleagues who are competent and work hard – I could not care less who they have sex with or what colour their skin is.

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  23. StewGreen says:

    \\ More than a year since Kevin Crehan died in prison and still no inquest. //

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  24. taffman says:

    Prime Minister , politicians and telly-tax payers take note ………………….
    “The issue has been in the headlines since last summer, when the BBC published a list of presenters who earn more than £150,000 per year, revealing a gap in the earnings of its best-known male and female presenters and actors.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42885693
    £150,000 per year!
    Are they worth it?

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  25. StewGreen says:

    I listened to last week’s BBC (What we want to be) Trending
    Topic was FakeNews
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csvtp9
    Using the standard lib mob tactic of Misrepresent your opponent’s opinion Mike Wendling said

    Trump is misusing the word FakeNews to mean “news he doesn’t like”
    .. instead of the original meaning which is to describe those FakeNews factories in Slovenia

    Then he used the brushing past trick as he quickly said

    Yeh Trump had his FakeNews awards, and you know what his examples weren’t news at all, they were just examples of when reporters make a a mistake,
    yeh they just made a mistake
    .. and most of his examples weren’t even news stories they were just journalist’s tweets

    ..and then he rushed on
    ..Hangon the main Trump accusation was “”RUSSIA COLLUSION!””
    ..and it is pretty sure that that and the wild claims of the Russia dossier are unsubstantiated.
    https://www.gop.com/the-highly-anticipated-2017-fake-news-awards/

    The prog then moved without acknowledging that MSM ar responsible for almost all substantive FakeNews and False narratives
    ..The Africa expert did make a serious point that FakeNews had had effect in vaccination scares etc. and that the Fakenews isn’t actually in public on Facebook pages etc. , but rather in closed groups on What’s App etc.
    ..Yes I can agree with that .. they create the echo-chambers that are the real danger.

    They then mentioned real Fake news incidents largely ignored by Western media : African Polio outbreaks, riots in India etc, stuff in Philippines and Myanmar etc.

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