The pro-EU propagandists have been out in force recently, but having learnt nothing from past failures they continue down the path of ‘persuading’ recalcitrant voters to change their minds about the dizzying delights of the Grand Project by assaulting them with reheated alarmist prophecies of doom first tried out so disastrously by the original Project Fear. On top of that they add into the toxic mix a raft of insults and sneers at those voters which are unlikely, as before, to attract them to the cause.
Project Fear MKII has come up with an alarming scenario that whatever we do if we leave the EU the economy will crash in comparison to what it would do if we had stayed in the EU. This of course comes ultimately from the Treasury and has the finger prints of Phillip Hammond all over it. Considering Project Fear MKI couldn’t predict events a few months away how likely is it that Project Fear MKII can predict events 15 years away? Apparently it doesn’t take into account any of the benefits flowing from Brexit so just a bit one sided. And consider this…it is of course based upon the status quo now…in other words it assumes the EU and Britain, and the world, stay exactly as they are…
No scenario would be better for the economy than the status quo.
Really? That’s just not realistic over one year never mind fifteen and also assumes the British economy can’t improve. Does it take any account of events in Europe? Catalonia, Poland and Hungary, Russia, mass immigration creating mass instability and conflict, growing terrorism and an EU intent on ever closer union.
And then there are the sneers and mocking insults such as from the German Ambassador…have to say it says a lot about him that for all his time here nobody has probably ever heard of him and the only time they do is when he is about to leave the job and decides now is the time to insult the British voters who voted for Brexit…which is a ‘tragedy’ apparently. He tells Brexiteers ‘For you ze var isn’t over yet’ and complains that we only voted for Brexit because we live in some fantasy land where plucky Britain stands alone in the world and refights WWII every day. Hmmm…not as if the Germans don’t make plenty of films and TV series based upon the war….are they going to ‘Deutschit’? Probably not because they won the war as Heseltine told us…the Germans run the EU.
The Ambassador of course comes up with the usual trite nonsense about ‘populism’…I’m sure Merkel would love a bit of ‘populism’ right now…isn’t that what democracy is all about….Parties offering voters choices of policy that appeal to them and their interests?
Brexit, he said, was part of a wider, international populist revolt against politicians.
“Populism provides easy and understandable answers to very complex problems,” Ammon said. “If you say the words ‘single market’ or ‘customs union’ probably 99% of the population would not understand, but if you say: ‘Let us build a wall to stop these immigrants,’ people say: ‘OK, that will probably help.’ I know it is not a good answer to problems.
Naturally the BBC were happy to convey his words to us and Emma Barnett ran one of her phone-ins on the subject asking if our views of the EU are warped and driven by our view of ourselves as the victors of WWII harking back to past glories and a golden age that never was? Hmmm…actually Britain came to the rescue of Europe as the Nazis invaded putting the interests of its fellow Europeans first over its own interests, once again saving it from tyranny…and as for Brexit that is about protecting the future not preserving the past.
We had a bit of pantomime on the Today programme as they invited on plumber Charlie Mullins who is a well known Remainder and a frequent guest on the BBC. He was allowed to rant on about Brexit claiming hardly anybody supported Brexit anymore and that we will have a second referendum and May must go. It was suggested that he might be out to sabotage Brexit but the BBC knew what they were getting when they invited him on and so must have expected the anti-Brexit outburst and decided to run with it…..a bit of mudslinging about Brexit with some mock interrogation thrown in for effect is all grist for the pro-EU mill.
Previous to that we had a piece about Hungary which began [starting off in a funfair horror ride] with a scream and then a laugh…timed to coincide with comments about the horror of the EU breaking up and Brexit. Apparently the former Soviet bloc countries are ‘EUphobic’ despite the EU having presided over a huge boost to their economies and countries…naturally this would never have happened had they not joined the EU. Hungary is having a crackdown on ‘internationally funded NGOs’…hmmm…no mention of the billionaire leftwinger Soros who is trying to buy up democracies around the world and corrupts them with his billions…odd the BBC dodge that when they are so concerned about the Russians in the US…not so concerned about Soros funding Clinton and Obama though.
The piece was entirely negative about Hungary….a final summary writing it off as ‘nationalist, populist and anti-immigrant’. The BBC deciding that all three characteristics are bad.
Yesterday we had Kirsty Wark asking if ‘the notion of home is legitimate anymore?’ In other words no-one can claim to be British…we are all citizens of the world and the world are citizens of Britain…and can thus come here unchecked, economic migrants are as much asylum seekers as any fleeing war and oppression. Utterly one-sided and no-one on at all to put a different perspective to challenge the narrative being peddled…Wark in complete agreement. Pure pro-immigration propaganda and not unrelated to the EU and Brexit of course.
Then we had this week’s ‘Book of the Week’…..hmmm..about Jews fleeing Germany…
Then 1935 heralded a dark dawn…
That old ‘warning from history’ the BBC likes to keep on about….Farage the next Fuhrer according to the BBC, Brexit the closest thing to Fascism today.
Then we had last week’s ‘Book of the Week’….It’s 1999 and the Dutch journalist Geert Mak, is travelling through Europe reflecting on the history of the last 100 years.
This turns out to be a long-winded tract with a not so hidden pro-EU message. Sure, it tells us, the EU has had its problems and has made mistakes but it was created as a force for peace and its hallmark is not a single identity but its diversity. He naturally slips into praising the Muslim Ottoman Empire as a multicultural paradise whilst deriding Europeans as colonialists who disdained the natives….and 19th century nationalism put an end to Ottoman tolerance. Think we can see where he comes from.
The last episode was even more explicit...the BBC announced that it had been specially commissioned to update his book…not saying who commissioned it…but you can guess from the blurb for the programme…implicit but it suggests it was the BBC that specially commissioned this final update….so that he can include his damning thoughts on Brexit….
To conclude Mak has written a new epilogue bringing his reflections on the continent up to date.
The break up of the Soviet Union was a disaster [less than subtle allusion, possibly not a good one]….everything declined, the economy crashed, food, education, health, public safety, democracy….all bad…it was like a war or a famine. Stick with the devil you know kids!!!
The problem with the EU, yes it made mistakes as said, but the real problem was not of its making, it was the 2008 crash which ‘left citizens behind’ and encouraged the British to pull up the drawbridges as the EU ‘reluctantly’ edged towards becoming a superpower.
He tells us that ‘We Europeans are one people and we need to stick together’…kind of at odds with his multiculti paradise, open borders message.
Just more outright pro-EU, pro-immigration propaganda masquerading as mere historical whimsy.
The BBC has been in overdrive recently pumping this stuff out….no coincidence the Dementum activists have also been out in force pushing the anti-Brexit message in an attempt to sabotage it.
In the House of Lords yesterday, UKIP’s Lord Pearson of Rannoch used an oral question to raise his concerns about the BBC’s coverage of Brexit. He told the chamber that Brexit Secretary David Davis had said to him recently that his job in Brussels was made even more difficult if every time he made an advance it was “undermined by the BBC”, while former Conservative Cabinet Minister Lord Tebbit accused the BBC of becoming a “supporter of a foreign organisation called the European Union”.
Parody account makes more sense than the real account for Diane Abbott …
“The @bbc needs to be closed down. It is a left wing propaganda machine brainwashing our citizens. I would rather be in Waco.NOT Diane Abbott MP added,”
Lord Tebbit:
Out of 4,275 guests talking about EU on BBC Radio 4
Only 132 or 3.2% supported UK Leaving EU
“Frankly, BBC has become supporter of a foreign organisation called EU.
Get your act in order because you do owe a duty of impartiality”
Tebbit gives them facts.
But nobody even listens or addresses them.
When facts and reason are no longer wanted, or when no defence or justifications are deemed necessary to counter those facts?
But emotings and cliches are allowed to smother the grievances of warhorses like Tebbit and Pearson instead?
Well, there will be trouble ahead-indeed we ourselves would be traitors and spineless weathercocks like THEM if we did NOT sort and slot these vermin.
Ena Powell…she`d have said that! So I did.
magicoat
The House of Lords and Al Beeb like Crapita are sleepwalking to their extinction.
Yes the ministers answer in that vid was
..”Ah well Nigel Farage has been on Question Time 31 times …. since it started”
… which is a BS answer intended to make it look like QT is a big Brexit programme
Well you can just go to the QT wikipedia page and it lists the guests with the most appearances and Farage is not at the top
Since year 2000 he’s been on twice a year well 1.7 times actually
Whose been on more time ?
Kenneth Clarke, Harriet Harman, Clare Short, Michael Heseltine etc.
Remember Lab/Con leaders are rarely on the show cos they get their own special interviews etc.
Tim Farron has been on 15 Times in the last 6 years
same for Emily Thornberry, Vince Cable
In the last 6 years Farage has been on 13 times
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Question_Time_episodes
Wonderful ‘I’m sorry I’ll read that again’ moment on BBC R4 News at 6pm & 10pm last night.
BBC “A leaked report suggests the UK economy may be damaged by Brexit.”
BBC immediately play a Der Starmer clip “It’s not good enough!”
ha ha ha how many times do they think they can trot out the same old crap that didnt work the first time around
They still havent got the message that we are not a gullible as they would like us to be
ps Death to Traitors
Kaiser,
The non stop hysterical pro EU propaganda from the BBC certainly won’t work on those who visit this site but it might on some of those who didn’t vote last time. The main attack line from the Remoaner elite is a second referendum, which they think they have a decent chance of winning and don’t have a great deal to lose if they don’t. It has the big advantage of potentially overturning the democratic vote to leave in what can be dressed up as a second democratic decision. They want to hide behind the cloak of sham democracy rather than just vote Brexit down in the HoP and risk the wrath of the people.
What surprises me is that after more than 18 months of extreme pro EU bias from the BBC , which everyone can see in plain sight, there has not been much stronger calls for the BBC to be brought to heel and held to account. If ever there was a golden opportunity to do great and lasting damage to the BBC this is it. A large proportion of those who voted Leave must be heartily sick of the bias and the sneering and the name calling. I am sure that if some public figures took up the attack on the BBC they would find that millions supported them.
DT
they will definitely “WIN” if any second referendum is allowed, they wont let themselves lose a second time WHAT EVER IT TAKES
They are already suggesting the question
1 Take the shit deal
2 Stay in
where the real question should be
1 Take the shit deal
2 WTO rules no money, no ecj, no CAP no CAF no nothing
just like we voted for
When they manage to rig the result even by just 1 vote we will be in forever ,full speed ahead ,schengen , the euro the eu army and no more referendums
DT, over 17 million actually voted to leave and a large number voted remain because they were scared shitless by the horror stories put about by most of the MSM who gave such stories huge prominence.
Thing is, how do we mobilise these patriots and get their views and concerns heard?
The media – especially our National Broadcaster actively promote the doom mongers and, disgracefully, present our adversaries (EU) continuously in a positive pro-active light.
I am wondering how long it will be before people finally accept that their referendum vote counts for little and the only way to wrest power from those who are loathe to give it up is by a show of force.
DT,
The government (?) appears powerless to act against the BBC’s blatant because it hopes to be able to use it to brainwash or lie to what it considers the great unwashed. There are truths about the UK and it’s destination which no government of either stripe would want us to know.
“You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”
Taffy,
I think that they are working on a 51% strategy.
Kaiser “How many times …”
Sixty-two thousand four hundred repetitions make one truth.
Brave New World – A.Huxley
We see you…………..Project Fear in one guise or another is simultaneously projected at each stage of the Brexit bill’s inexorable progress through Parliament.
this softening up process is then followed by a hard line negotiation stance by Barnier, on behalf of the EU 27……….noticed that subtle change ….not EU… EU 27
…….however, there are growing signs in Italy,Poland, Czech REp, Germany that all is not well in Euroland.
Why isn’t this state broadcaster all over this to strengthen our hand as opposed to undermining Britain……..Change NOW or face closure, that should be the new message .
Labour’s Sneerleader for all things Brexit is, in my view, lining himself up – or at least trying to – to take over from Corbyn in the very near future.
The BBC never, ever suggest that. They point all the time to ‘divisions in the Conservative Party on Brexit’.
I wonder why?
Actually, I don’t. I KNOW why!
Lets see the how the predictions of how the ORDINARY people of the EU fare when true Brexit happens , all the options and scenarios .
Now remainers and civil servants , let’s see predictions about how you fare , and your friends like Barnier , Junckers , Macron , Tusk , Merkel , Verhofstadt etc .
Here are my free predictions ;
The ordinary people of the EU will suffer in the short term , the suffering will range from slight to huge depending on the attitude of the EU elite and the terms of disengagement . They will suffer in the long term if the EU elite tries to punish the UK .
The EU elite won’t suffer no matter what .
Now take that attitude , BBC .
I’ll amend my description of libmob debate/PR tactics
whether it’s ClimateChange Brexit, NHS, Fracking etc
libmob’s MO is
#1 Create a ProjectFear
#2 Then deal with challengers : MisrepresentativeLabel/Sneer&Smear/Dismiss/Runaway