https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eet8S3Nj_yY&feature=youtu.be
‘The decision to censor shows that our establishment is more threatened by satire, clarity and truth than by young men willing to kill, rape and pillage in the name of Islam’, wrote Mimsy, adding that ‘it was ultimately an act of national cowardice dressed up as health-and-safety rhetoric’.
The problem with Darren Osborne, his urge to kill Muslims, was that he was ‘fed by a diet of on-line Far-Right extremism.’ Or so the BBC has just told us on its news bulletin on 5 Live. Something missing from that BBC story isn’t there? What could that be? Ah yes….Osborne’s partner said he became ‘radicalised’ after watching the BBC programme about 1,400 white girls being abused by Muslims, then he begn watching material on-line [but is that material ‘Far-Right’…it is mostly Tommy Robinson and a story from Infowars about Muslims celebrating the Manchester attack]….the BBC even grudgingly admitted it’s own role in its own report….
He had become “obsessed” with Muslims in the weeks leading up to the incident after watching BBC drama Three Girls, about the Rochdale grooming scandal, Ms Andrews had said.
The Telegraph’s headline…
Finsbury Park terror trial: Darren Osborne turned into ‘ticking time bomb’ after watching BBC drama, court hears
The Guardian….
Court hears Darren Osborne’s anger was fuelled by BBC drama and rightwing propaganda
Today the BBC website does mention the link to the BBC but in an analysis by Dominic Casciani we get a very loaded narrative shaped to pile the real blame onto Tommy Robinson. There is also a sly attempt to paint all types of terrorism as a result of mental health problems …
Mental health problems are increasingly being recognised by counter-terrorism experts as key factors in radicalisation.
…thus, ironically, trying to disassociate Islamic terror with Islam whilst at the same time trying to blame the so-called ‘Far-Right’, ie Tommy Robinson, for Osborne’s radicalisation….a few tweets from Tommy Robinson radicalised Osborne but years of doctrination into Islamic beliefs and values have no role in terror attacks? This of course also misses out the real trigger which was the very real rape and abuse of 1,400 girls by Muslim men….and subsequent terror attacks by Islamists…
The BBC asked Mr Robinson whether his words had inflamed tensions and contributed to Osborne’s state of mind.
The sly attempt to blame the Far-Right, and not the BBC or the various ctions by Muslims, whilst trying to make out Islam as unblameworthy is continued…
His partner told police how he had become “obsessed” with the drama which aired the month before the attack. Commander Dean Haydon, the head of counter-terrorism at the Metropolitan Police, says that this drama was the “catalyst”.
Osborne began accusing Muslims of being rapists or paedophiles – and the couple argued as he had never previously been openly racist or hostile to Muslims.
These arguments appear to fit one of the most important warning signs of a potential terrorist: he developed a “them and us” view of the world.
Might he not actually be justified in thinking that Islam creates a ‘them and us’ scenario and it is not just an invention of his own mind reinforced by online material? Witness the Trojan Horse plot and indeed what is being said today.
“Ofsted inspectors are increasingly brought into contact with those who want to actively pervert the purpose of education.
“Under the pretext of religious belief, they use education institutions, legal and illegal, to narrow young people’s horizons, to isolate and segregate, and in the worst cases to indoctrinate impressionable minds with extremist ideology.
“Freedom of belief in the private sphere is paramount, but in our schools it is our responsibility to tackle those who actively undermine fundamental British values or equalities law.”
The BBC goes on to suggest the idea of a ‘them and us’ culture is an invention created by the ‘Far-Right’ online…
He joined Twitter and hunted for anything to justify what he was now thinking. And this, says Commander Haydon, was the second crucial stage in Osborne’s journey.
“He accessed this material and was using it to self-radicalise,” said Commander Haydon. “Online played a major role in what happened. We have legislation in place that deals with [terrorist] propaganda. But some of the material that’s online is unpleasant but does not cross the boundary into crime.”
Ahh…now we’re getting to the very problematic stuff and the real target…what Tommy Robinson publishes is legal but, in the Police’s mind [and the BBC’s] ‘unpleasant’….such as this presumably….
“What Salman Abedi did is not the beginning and it won’t be the end. There is a nation within a nation forming just beneath the surface of the UK. It is a nation built on hatred, on violence and on Islam.”
Well Robinson was right about more attacks and his ‘nation within a nation’ is just what Trevor Phillips has told us, amongst many others, about parallel societies forming inside Britain. From the Telegraph….
British Muslims becoming a nation within a nation, Trevor Phillips warns
“Muslims who have separatist views about how they want to live in Britain are far more likely to support terrorism than those who do not”
The BBC goes on…
And it’s that legal material that’s in question in this case. The killer looked at content from the far-right group, Britain First, but appeared more attracted to Tommy Robinson who had previously founded and headed the English Defence League.
Mr Robinson is now an alt-right commentator who describes himself as a journalist and Osborne subscribed to his group email list.
On 22 May, Osborne received one of the emails that warned of an Islamic “nation within a nation” forming in the UK.
Osborne left a rambling letter in his van.
He appeared to refer to a deeply controversial Iran-backed march in London, which had been his original target, again a topic that had exercised Mr Robinson.
Two days before Osborne’s attack, Mr Robinson tweeted a newspaper headline referring to whether people should “look back in anger” over the Manchester bombing.
Robinson of course was not alone in being concerned about an Iranian backed march in London, the BBC even decribes it here as ‘deeply controversial’, and how is it that it is Robinson who is being attacked for quoting from a newspaper article that says we should not be angry about Manchester? Maybe it was the BBC’s outhouse publication, the Guardian’s, headline….
Don’t Look Back in Anger becomes symbol of Manchester’s spirit
Robinson suggests we should be angry [by now Osborne has already hired the van he use in the attack…so relevance of this tweet used to blame Robinson for the attack?]…
A tweet by Tommy Robinson – “Anger? When a Muslim bombed our kids we were told not to look back in anger?” – is viewed.
A tweet by Tommy Robinson – “Where was the day of rage after the terrorist attacks. All I saw was lighting candles” – is viewed on an iPad.
The BBC links the tweet to the attack….
The jury in the Darren Osborne trial has heard that this tweet by Tommy Robinson was viewed on a device linked to Osborne on the day before the Finsbury Park attack https://t.co/mMc7zNZ41H
— Daniel Sandford (@BBCDanielS) January 23, 2018
Robinson was actually comparing the Left’s reaction to Grenfell when it demanded a ‘day of rage’ and after Manchester when no ‘day of rage’ was called for despite the deliberate mass murder of children.
But here’s Brendan O’Neil in Spiked saying we should be angry……
After Manchester: it’s time for anger
As part of the post-terror narrative, our emotions are closely policed. Some emotions are celebrated, others demonised. Empathy – good. Grief – good. Sharing your sadness online – great. But hatred? Anger? Fury? These are bad. They are inferior forms of feeling, apparently, and must be discouraged. Because if we green-light anger about terrorism, then people will launch pogroms against Muslims, they say, or even attack Sikhs or the local Hindu-owned cornershop, because that’s how stupid and hateful we apparently are. But there is a strong justification for hate right now. Certainly for anger. For rage, in fact. Twenty-two of our fellow citizens were killed at a pop concert. I hate that, I hate the person who did it, I hate those who will apologise for it, and I hate the ideology that underpins such barbarism. I want to destroy that ideology.
Stop and think about how strange it is, how perverse it is, that more than 20 of our citizens have been butchered and we are basically saying: ‘Everyone calm down. Love is the answer.’ Where’s the rage? If the massacre of children and their parents on a fun night out doesn’t make you feel rage, nothing will. The terrorist has defeated you. You are dead already.
What we have is a narrative that glosses over the BBC’s role in this but directs the blame in the main to Tommy Robinson for tweets that are merely reflecting what other mainstream media and figures say as well as facts on the ground. The police and the BBC want to suppress such facts and silence the likes of Robinson by saying it is his narrative that is to blame for the attack when clearly the blame lies elsewhere….what was Osborne angry about? Muslim attacks in Britain. The BBC’s programme about Rochdale was perfectly justified if years too late and of course can’t be ‘blamed’ for the attack…the point is the BBC are diverting ‘blame’ onto Robinson for his comments on Islamist behaviour and sidelining the fact that it was their programme that kicked off the ‘radicalisation’. The BBC is hypocritically saying Robinson shouldn’t be allowed to make those comments but the BBC should be able to make programmes about issues such as Rochdale [lol…when forced to].
May 16, 17, 18
Three episodes of the BBC drama Three Girls are aired.
May 22
Manchester terror attack.
Some 22 people die after Salman Abedi detonates a bomb at the end of an Ariana Grande concert at the Manchester Arena.
June 14
Early hours – Grenfell Tower fire. Some 71 people die in the London tower block blaze.
9.01am–10.23am – A number of Google searches for Tommy Robinson carried out on an iPad.
June 17
10.10am – Osborne rents a Citroen van from Pontyclun Van Hire in Mid Glamorgan, Wales.
1.23pm–1.30pm – More Google searches for Tommy Robinson carried out on an iPad.
A tweet by Tommy Robinson – “Anger? When a Muslim bombed our kids we were told not to look back in anger?” – is viewed.
1.37pm – Google search for ‘Jeremy Corbyn’ is carried out on an iPad.
June 18
Osborne travels to London.
June 19
12.15am – Osborne drives van into a group of Muslims tending to a man who has fallen ill.
As a side point , Tommy Robinson is a journalist , whether the BBC , Lib/left progressives and Gramscians like it or not .
As Thomas Sowell says in his book , Intellectuals And Society , when describing how to delineate whether someone is an intellectual , we cannot use our own prejudices to exclude those who we don’t agree with . His example is a bad cop . He may be a bad cop , but he is still a cop .
As Tommy Robinson
1; has access to media outlets
2; does investigative work
3 ; comments and analyses current events
Then he is a journalist .
So they’ve found him guilty [Darren Osborne]. What now for the man? Will he get protection from a Muslim “backlash”?
From the second Osborne was loaded into the back of a paddy wagon (am I allowed to call it that?), somewhere in the vicinity of the Finnsbury Mosque, on that fateful night, it was pretty obvious how this was all going to be played by the MSM. It could all have been predicted right down to the kangaroo court, the championing of a Muslim ‘people’s hero’, and the seeking of scapegoats.
Now, I don’t particularly like Tommy Robinson, please don’t hold that against me, I’m merely expressing a personal opinion, however, he is no more guilty of inciting murderous rage in Osborne than the BBC, and far less so than, say an MSM presenter calling for the ‘murder’ of Trump, for example… Anyway, disliking someone personally, should never justify deliberately attempting to smear their reputation, or punishing them for crimes they didn’t commit, should it? Unless you’re the MSM of course, then it’s fine.
I am angry about how Osborne’s crime has been handled. Yes, he committed a horrible crime, he intentionally killed a man, and it doesn’t matter what you think of that man (or his religion), the odds are he was probably innocent of anything criminal. For all I know, he might even have been the blameless and lovable character portrayed by the MSM. I can’t, and don’t, deny he broke the law and deserved to be punished for it.
However, the punishment should always fit the crime, and his crime was in no way proportional to most of the terrorist attacks which have been carried out in this country by ‘radicalised’ Muslims in recent years, or to the systematic grooming and molestation of girls. Or, am I wrong, was his crime really, far, far worse simply because he was a white man and a native to boot? In my opinion, his punishment can not possibly be equal, or worse, than has been meted out to these Islamic ‘hate criminals’ can it? Otherwise, our legal system is clearly biased and unjust… a bit like certain MSM corporations?
A final thing which worries me about this, is the way the BBC (and the Guardian) have turned it around to make a ‘convincing’ (?) argument which justifies the selective censorship of crimes committed by (in this case) Islamic perpetrators. We’ve all seen it go on, many have commented on it here, it can be as simple as a crime being committed by ‘a young man’, rather than ‘a young Muslim, man’. I hope others have noted, that there is an undertone from the BBC here that says “we should never have shown that drama about the Rotherham girls, it just incited ‘far right’ hatred and murder. See we were right all along, the ‘hate filled, far right, fanatics’ out there (you know those Brexit voting imbeciles) aren’t ready to know these things and we should have kept if censored. In the future, if anyone questions our censorship, we’ll just have to point at this.”
That internet thing sure is bad , perhaps we should ban it
still what surprises me is the percentage of ropers who seem to be for some reason so easily and quickly radicalised by the internet
if the internet is so hypnotically omnipotent why are there not 20 times as many far right attacks than rop attacks
hmm maybe its not the internet after all
BBC
Guns bad. Ban guns
Koran bad. Ban Koran.
No that cant be right. Koran lays the foundations of Peace, The RoP. .