Let’s see. In the past few days we have the welcome reconciliation between North and South Korea, a commitment from North Korea that it will stop nuclear testing AND release captured US Prisoners. We have Trump being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize? And what does the BBC want to talk about? Yes – STORMY DANIELS. Well, I suppose it makes a change from “Muh Russians”! Their anti-Trump bias is visceral. Thoughts?
ON TRUMP…
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“As far as the risk of dealing with a madman is concerned, that’s his problem, not mine,” Trump said.
Trump can tell rather better jokes than the so-called comedian Michelle Wolf! Here are some more (including “Nobody does self-deprecating humor better than I do”):
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/04/politics/trump-best-jokes-gridiron-dinner/index.html
Trump’s achievements have already been listed, but I am quite sure even he never thought he would win the title of “The Most Successful Climate Protector in the World”:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/07/germanys-die-welt-proclaims-trump-successful-climate-protector-world/
And I understand even reliably sneering Sopel had to give a positive report (through gritted teeth, presumably) regarding how Trump dealt with North Korea, and was fortunate not to get lockjaw.
I wonder if he managed to get through Trump’s Washington, Michigan, rally last week:
Yuuge fun, wasn’t it!
Donald Trump is regarded as “The Most Successful Causational Climate Scientist Protector in the World” for 2018.
Tony Hall is regarded as “The Most Successful Causational Climate Scientist Censurer in the World” for 2018.
Pres Trump at the NRA
Trump then transitioned to make the basic point that being armed is part of being free and is characteristically American, saying: “In America we trust the people to be wise and to be good. We trust them to take responsibility for themselves, their families, and their communities. And that is why in America we have always trusted the people to bear arms.”
This is the best reason I have heard for the right to bear arms.
When you have 300m guns in circulation, you probably have little choice. Our starting point is entirely different.
Guns are no solution here – they don’t stay legal, over time they migrate out into the criminal classes. The police can’t (or won’t) even control unlicensed cars, for God’s sake. Criminals are currently forced to use relatively inefficient knives and sulphuric acid drain cleaner for a reason. Not good but could be worse.
In a sense, we don’t even have a knife/acid problem, we have an imported criminal problem. That is the problem that needs to be addressed without adding to the pool of weapons generally available, IMO. Discussing weapons is avoiding the issue – knife amnesties etc are mere window dressing.
We used to have a crime rate to be proud of (Glasgow possibly excepted). Nobody wants to discuss why it changed, or why the murder rate started to creep up around 1962.
Good points Theresa. Knife crime and general street criminality is an imported problem.
My main point, and I believe Pres Trump harkens to it, is that an armed populace is a steady reminder to the ruling class that there is another power in the land that is armed too, and not just the state owned monopoly of power. It stops politicians in their tracks, in case they attempt to change the very culture of the nation – as is happening in Europe. And that culture is a imported one too.
I was musing on what Sopel and Katty and the other loyal beeboids would do if President Trump was no longer in office – perhaps in 6 years time .
What happens when the thing one hates is not there any more -? And thought the same about what we’d do if al beeb became a decent British broadcaster .
Then I realised I’d taken mind altering chemicals again.
When their whole raison d-être is hate, I’m sure they’ll find a new person on whom to focus their attention.
Any Republican President any Conservative Prime Minister.
Turning point for me with the BBC was when Obama was elected. Their “reporters” were so exilerated it was sickening. Who’d have thought they could get worse?
Just watch this and although it’s 30 minutes long, you will begin to understand just how the Left have distorted reality in order to legitimise their hatred of Trump:
https://youtu.be/NnNuAhDNnGg
This brilliant speech was originally scheduled for mid-evening BBC2 but was replaced by a repeat of ‘Bake Off’ following ‘due consideration’ and a phone call to Jon Sopel.
Thoughtful, I have only listened to three minutes+ of this, and I am wondering whether the Kennedy brothers were assassinated not by Communists, not by crooks or ‘businessmen’, not by ‘people from the other side’ but by fellow Democrats.
Had never considered that the killings were over the then racial divide in the USA, but maybe, just maybe, they were?
Bizarre!
But I do now wonder …..
Not sure about this guy … listen to his words and look at previous interviews with Christopher Hitchens.
MM, d’Souza has got his mid-20th century history right on Fascism. Can’t vouch so well for his 18th/19th century US history, except I have heard & read bits of it elsewhere and those little bits tied in OK.
As for the night of 9th November and the following weekend, that I can confirm from memory. Charlottesville slightly less so. Both, however, will be in the BBC record, one hopes.
As for masked Lefty faces, take a look on the other Thread at the link to the Daily Mail coverage of London’s 1st May march & gathering in Trafalgar Square.
You are right to be cautious. Any news source, even the BBC, needs to be cross-checked against personal knowledge or other sources. It’s something that makes me cautious and a little reluctant to help out David Vance.
As a regular on here, if I post something dreadful, David and Alan can disown it. If necessary, they can ban me.
If however, I started to take on more formal duties, I would feel personally responsible to endeavour to be 100% accurate all the time and would have to take more and more time to be careful to cross-check everything. Same as if I worked for the Times or the Daily Telegraph or Guardian.
Might cramp my style a bit.
With respect to D’Souza this is nothing new, but the way he put that speech together without notes is impressive. Trump is capable of similar eloquence without notes, but this is rarely if ever reported. In fact what Trump actually says is never reported.
If the West is to survive it will be located in the centre of the northern Amercian continent for the foreseeable future. The UK and the Europeans are lost. They have lost all sense of who they are and have been humiliated in to despising their own culture. They have become contemptible societies, where any questioning of the PC mantra can lead to isolation and public humiliation. To be frank, they deserve the Islamic Caliphate that they will inherit.
I would suggest that President Trump doesn’t care a flying f@ck what the bbbbc think.
He understands real business life rather than the bbbc bubbleists, who just jail pensioners.
And the other thing scrob – is President trump declaring a Prayer Day for his country . The smirking on c4 news about anything relating to a god or religion was something to see – lucky Islam doesn’t involve religion isn’t it?
Too true, Fed!
There’s a lovely comment on Guido, where a chap said he went to pray in a synagogue for the Tories looking good, and he wasn’t even Jewish!
(Actually he said ‘Joyish’, so I wondered for a moment of he was referring to Joyce Grenfell, then I thought, oh b~:>er, not that bloody subject again…)
Donald Trump really is the most dreadful fellow. Well the BBC and Simples Sopel tell me he is.
1. War monger – Best possibility for peace between North and South Korea for 60 years. Commitment from “little rocket man” to stop testing nuclear weapons.
2. Misogynist – Lowest female unemployment rate in US since November 1953.
3. Racist – Endorsed by black rap artist Kayne West. Lowest black unemployment rate since race-based statistics were introduced in 1972.
4. Homophobe – Appointment of Ric Grenell, first openly gay US ambassador to Germany.
5. Destroyer of the planet – US number one country for reducing CO2 emissions in 2017 according to the OECD-backed International Energy Agency – nice thing to do in the interests of energy efficiency, something the greenies don’t even begin to understand.
Dreadful, dreadful man.
Chris – the other bit you missed is the imminent release of Americans imprisoned in North Korea
. Not in the Sopel song book .
Chris M, under item 3. you might have added ‘voted into power by some majority BAME States in the US.’
Yes, it’s the same when I come against any “Trump’s an idiot” idiot… Ask them their opinion on any one of his policies or current progress and it’s “We’ll look at him, he’s an idiot”.
There you go. Can’t argue with that kind of logic can you?
The much anticipated Inspector General report on the Clinton e-mail scandal is likely to hit within the next two weeks. When it does, all hell will break loose in D.C. and the success or failure of Trump’s presidency depends on the swamp’s reaction to its likelihood of recommending mass prosecutions, enabling Trump to start the swamp-draining process and end the joke of a Special Counsel. It’s going to be one hell of a ride, hope Sopel and co. are tightly strapped in.
I didn’t know Sopel had a strap-on!
The things you learn…
I wonder if the Inspector General report will include information censored in Britain by the D-Notice mentioned by Alex Thomson.
Records of communications between former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Alex Younger, and his colleagues at Orbis Business Intelligence, Christopher Steele, Pablo Miller, Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal.
No wonder the Liberal fascist establishment are showering the media with D-Notices if MI6 officers are using Orbis Business Intelligence to make money by trying to get Clinton into power.
But as with other intelligence agencies of the past. Senior Officers crippled by ideological repression and Junior Officers not knowing what the hell is happening. MI6 agents are making a catalogue of errors.
Richard, are you seriously saying Sergei AND Yulia Skripal worked for Orbis Intelligence?
Can you provide evidential sources here?
(Am off topic. Eeeek! Sorry, Pounce.)
It will be interesting to see how they avoid reporting this. I mean what is their strategy going to be when HRC gets carted off in handcuffs? The next few months are going to be interesting. The only thing that worries me slightly is the smugness and complacency of Rodenstein, who seems to be oblivous to the corruption he is mired in. Time will tell.
Re Trump and destroyer of the planet – don’t get me started. Taking America out of the Paris Climate nonsense and saving the country $3 billion. Great saving for the US and cutting all that funding for the green loonies. How they have howled as the prospect of a lifetime of prosperous non-work disappears before their very eyes. All those conferences they can’t attend, all that duff science they can’t fake, all those opportunities to swank around tv studios making it up as they go along. All that employment for unemployable bogus scientists.
As I say, dreadful fellow that Trump.
I have no axes to grind with American politician’s, I can’t vote in their elections anyhow. What gets my goat is the totally biased reporting by the BBC. They seize on any and every opportunity, to snipe and criticise Trump and report any snidey thing they can find on him. It wouldn’t be so bad if it were the Guardian, where I could choose whether I subscribed or not, however, I have no say in whether I subscribe to the BBC or not. So why do I have to read this biased drivel every day?
The BBC and the Guardian are synonymous – that’s why the two are so pernicious. But take heart, the Politburo, Pravda, Isvestia and all the panoply of socialist communism once seemed set in stone, but the indomitable reality of the human spirit – forget religion, it’s humanity that moves mountains – plus a few pickaxes brought it all down. And the same can and will happen again, very probably starting in the US. Dinesh D’Szouza’s words – see above – are prophetic in the truest sense of the word.
Stop paying the Extortion Tax.
Stop paying the Extortion Tax.
Me either.
For once I agree with Flabbott that blacks are more hard-working than the indolent ‘caucasians’. How else to explain the spectacular success of all black cultures economically, technologically, scientifically, culturally, artistically, politically and in all other areas of human enterprise?
I’ll have a stab at that, Vlad…
Wasn’t it Black Brunel that ‘built Britain’? I remember learning about him during London 2012.
She thinks Black Panther was a documentary.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/
A billionaire slept with a porn star, so what? I would be more concerned if he was not doing things like that and I am sure a lot of his supporters feel the same way; it actually makes him look good. I bet Ed Miliband never paid off a porn star to keep quiet and I know who I would rather have taking on Putin.
It is so boring and toothless – the umpteenth character attack and much weaker than most that have preceded it. And to run with it during a historic week where he has brought world peace just makes the media look like the petty, fake parasites he accuses them of being.
Their hatred of him goes beyond his politics. They threw everything at him and he beat them, which still rankles. Plus they hate him mirroring their tactics. They happily hurl the most vicious abuse, calling him ‘Hitler’ and ‘racist’ to name a few, but when he calls them fake news they cannot handle it. They have never been attacked like this before and cannot deal with it, in part because what he says is true. He has emasculated and humiliated them.
They also hate how he totally bypasses them via Twitter. That is such tactical brilliance. Now he sets the agenda rather than them, plus no snide editing of 150 characters can make it look like he is saying something he is not.
He is like the cool kid passing notes at the back of the class. The teacher is a boring hypocrite everyone has stopped listening to.
I expect the BBC to be in mourning today. Particularly the
Londonistan Programme. Labour failed to win Barnet ,where
I live. You will see the presenters of this Fifth Columnist,
Trotskyist edited programme sneering as they tell us that
the TOREEEEEES won Barnet. The larget ppoulated borough
of London with a population of nearly 400,000.
The comparitevely large Jewish population of Barnet can
sleep easier ,at least a bit longer. T
The BBC must be feeling pretty lost at the moment! They had their hopes up for a big Tory wipe out, especially in London only to see ‘not much change’ so their obvious smear campaign against the Tories with the Windrush ‘scandal’ clearly did not work.
In a very large number of Windrush came to London and their descendants live across all boroughs so if Windrush could not scare people away from he Tories then what can the left (which includes the BBC) do to try and help Labour out now?
It does seem that Labour’s anti Semitic problem has had an effect as you mentioned. Maybe people should stop looking at the Tories as just ‘bad evil people’ and at the same time stop looking over to Labour and Corbyn as ‘for the many’ as they keep saying?
“looking at the Tories as just ‘bad evil people’”
Yes, but who started that, or made it worse at the very least? May is lucky to have Corbyn as leader of the opposition but he is nearly 70 and no Churchill. She’s also lucky that people don’t seem to be directing all of the blame for the higher crime rate in her direction, even though they would be justified in doing so for a high proportion of it.
If Labour somehow equips itself with a decent leader, she might have a problem. Have to admit, though, that I don’t see any likely candidates on the horizon, but you never know.
I don’t think that the Tories are bad myself but I know that not everyone likes them.
Indeed if Labour had someone different then they might cause a bit of a worry for the Tories but that is what you should expect from an opposition. They did manage to convince people back in the early days of Blair but with Labour’s history they would have to work pretty hard to try and sway people on their side. The far left Momentum cult is not helping them one bit
I just wish the Conservatives would actually conserve something.
Instead, I’ve seen significant parts of the country change into somewhere else entirely, and I can’t place all the blame on Labour. The forced modification of certain towns and cities in the Midlands and North was well under way before Blair’s government decided to “rub the Right’s nose in diversity”.
I’m not generally a conspiracy theorist but I suspect that key people might have been receiving “brown paper packages tied up with string” from Saudi Arabia. I know the crackpot Left doesn’t know any better, but I can’t think of any other reason why people from traditional, conservative backgrounds would want to change their country beyond recognition when the consequences of such actions are clear to see. I could, sort of, see a justification for importing large elements of dynamic, SE Asian culture into the UK. But they haven’t done that. Far from it.
Give the Tories time. Brexit is the next thing on the agenda following from picking up the pieces from Labour’s reckless spending. If people give the Tories a chance then I think that thy will be able to conserve the wealth of this country at least providing that the country has wealth to begin with
Careful guys, Pounce may pounce on you for going off-topic. [Pounce, I Iuv ya! Feel free to pounce on this lot. You would have my backing. 😉 🙂 ]
The problem for Labour now is not Corbyn – he’s just the front man – it’s Momentum and the unions which have got the party forever in their grip – thanks to the dunderhead Milly Bean with his reform of the party membership and associated processes.
OT – BBC highlighting Labour success in last nights elections
As seen here
Labour success emboldered – Tory successes merely in body of text.
So far I suspect May is the happier of the two main leaders.
Still trying to big Labour up. Not easy when it is clear that Labour have not done that well as they hoped while May can again breathe a sigh of relief before the left (which of course includes the BBC) subject her to another ridiculous smear campaign just to try and ‘help Corbyn out’
Mid-term elections are traditionally seen as a barometer of government with most getting a predictably well-earned kicking.
The fact that Labour has failed so dismally – though of course, you’d never know that from the BBC – is the first most significant aspect.
The second is that Momentum is very evidently and largely wind and piss. They will obviously have to hike up the intimidation levels to get the sort of results their conceit, arrogance and blessedly childish political competence has led them to expect.
Well the left (which again, incudes the BBC) have ran a very aggressive campaign against the Tories for years ranging from ‘Thatcher closed down pit’ to the more recent ‘The Tories are killing disabled people’ and the most controversial ‘Grenfell was blood on the Tories hands’
In fact this year there have been some stories going around, the NHS crisis in January was of course varied but seemed to have no serious impact on the Tories. The BBC tried to big up Corbyn’s response to the Salisbury incident and Syria was portrayed as ‘against the wishes of the public’ yet every opinion poll since then puts the Tories ahead of Labour while May’s ratings compared to Corbyn’s always remain higher, and quite often much higher.
Windrush was the left’s (which I will say for the forth time today, also includes the BBC) last chance to make May ‘topple’ and bring the big bad Tories down, maybe issue a motion of no confidence or whatever to call another election which will see Labour win with a landslide and for Corbyn to be cannon-balled into Number 10 so he can sit on his throne and convert us into some utopian dreamland.
I bet the left are feeling a bit red faced today now that it is apparent that their wacky ideology is clearly not in the interests of the public
I don’t think that we will hear much from Windrush now that it has ‘ran its course’ and indeed serves the left no purpose for the time being. In fact it won’t be brought up again until the next election.
Next I expect to hear a lot from ‘experts’ over the local elections and how Labour ‘did not do as well as thought’ with a few digs thrown at the Tories of course
Oops. And you BBC shites ran with this all day yesterday.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/05/03/fresh-embarrassment-for-nbc-as-embattled-network-has-to-correct-itself-on-cohen-wiretap-story.html
Absolutely, Beltane.
Of course, this logic is lost on the bbbc website, and shuffled around to obfuscate the news that Joe Corbyn has been stuffed because he’s a stupid old man, out of any control on his awful ‘party, and that at last, Treezer can get some pokes back in the evil eyes of the commies and get a move on for complete Brexit without any sideshows from the leftie misfits.
Even Mrs O’Blene, who ignores all politicians as utter lying dross, has gleefully read stuff about it on her Ipad, and is at the moment dancing around the room with joy!
That doesn’t normally happen on a weekday…
UK IN: More people with UK links arrested in Iran.
USA OUT: North Korea expected to release American prisoners ahead of Donald Trump, Kim Jong-un summit.
. . .
Kim Jong-un will have to tell the population of North Korea (25million people) that he does use a toilet … this is going to blow their minds!
“To my childish eyes and to those of all my friends, Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il were perfect beings, untarnished by any base human function. I was convinced, as we all were, that neither of them urinated or defecated. Who could imagine such things of gods?[33]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_cult_of_personality
R4 can’t broadcast a programme without at least a few snide, childish digs at Trump, or full-blown hysteria.
There was a black American singer on there last week, telling us that they’re having their human rights taken away. The presenter was only answering with “Yes, yes” after every false statement, when she should’ve been asking what rights, and how?
For some strange reason they never seem to mention that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, and that notorious pro-segregation Alabama Governor George Wallace was a Democrat.
Funny that …..
You wont hear a mention of this either, Lobby.
http://christianpoliticalparty.com/heres-what-hitler-learned-from-the-democrats-its-horrifying/
Back to Trump.
I have a friend who was totally dismayed at Trump’s victory and was full of gloom for the future of Planet Earth and was expecting WW3 and, possibly, WW4 at the same time as the former.
I have some considerable regard for this friend and his political knowledge and analysis over the years – especially on American politics – and we have recently communicated a bit on the subject of Trump.
I suspect, that like the BBC and many of their contributors, this friend is merely parroting views and epithets about Trump received via the media. He would, years ago, have asked “Who is saying that?” and “Where does it come from?”. He would have then been ready and willing to respond, when those questions were answered, with the ‘Rice-Davies Gambit’ if required, “Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they?”
Now I suspect, perhaps due to the information overload of the 21st century, he is not really seeking answers on those essential questions himself but as a slightly/very liberal conservative is merely taking up the readily offered mantras about Donald Trump and repeating them without question. The BBC likewise and the same, I suspect, may well be true of many of their contributors.
A lazy, uninquisitive repetition of: “Trump is ………………………….”
I think we all probably have friends who take the BBC’s word as gospel.
A typical revelation when discussing any particular topic will start with ‘They say that….’
When I then ask ‘Who is saying that?’ they will come back with something like ‘Someone on the BBC the other day – I think it was on Today’. One example recently was ‘ They say now there are over 70 different types of gender’.
It makes for bloody hard work.
More and more people are noticing.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/955090/Brexit-news-update-BBC-Question-Time-panel-disparity-latest
Good lass Camilla.
“It’s now universally accepted that the press is parti pris (a preconceived view; a bias).” {youtube} – Christopher Hitchens circa1993
Most conspiracy is stupidity … this premise works a lot of the time.
02:16 if we can’t find a good explanation we’ll come up with a bad one
02:18 rather than none at all most people
02:20 would rather have a conspiracy theory
02:22 than no theory it’s very observable that
02:25 there’s a lot of junk science around
02:27 before good science arrives before we
02:29 have astronomy we have astrology and
02:32 before we have chemistry we have alchemy
MATT ZARB WEARS TRUMP MAGA HAT {order-order.com 04may2018}
Last night Jeremy Corbyn’s former spokesman Matt Zarb-Cousin vowed to wear a Donald Trump Make America Great Again hat if Labour failed to win Barnet ….
Live by twitter, get attacked by twitter.
11mar2017 …. “Owen Jones quits social media after threats of ‘torture and murder'” {bbc.co.uk 11mar2017}
“But he says the abuse has come from both sides in UK politics with criticism from Labour and Conservative supporters.”
04may2018 … Owen Jones still on social media …
I misread this. I thought it was Owen Jones threatening everyone else, especially 2re skum!
MM, ‘you can check out whenever you like but you can never leave’.
Chris Evans thanks his listeners and someone has won the lottery. Throughout their ‘equal pay’ saga they never commented on how abysmal their ‘news’ service is. It is like a forward who only scores own goals demanding a pay rise.
BBC reports on BBC presenter and on how the BBC is doing in the BBC news. Echo! Echo!
Chris ‘£2.3m’ Evans takes time out to visit people who are persecuted so they have to pay his wages ….
Shouldn’t he keep his private life private?
Why change the habit of a lifetime?
‘Meghan’s father to lead her down the aisle.’
What a scoop from a broadcaster that is the envy of the world. What thrilling news will they break next? Liverpool to try and score more goals than Real Madrid in Champions’ League final?
Careful Beeb!
These are serious journalists; intent on breaking enormous earth-shattering news stories, and making waves thoughout the world!
The thought police and the bbbc work hand in hand, and such devastating journalism rocks the establishment like no other crowd of over-paid, ultra-leftie, over-valued, very-rich, star-gazing, mind-blowingly-boring plonkers, sat behind desks with a latte and a big mobile, thinking they’re important!
After labour’s dismal performance under Joe Corbyn, they need some sort of sustenance. They think they’re worth it.
Al beeb has got its Trump story for the weekend – the Londonistan Knife Epidemic speech he has given to the NRA . I’d hope he might have said it just to wind the mayor of Londonistan.
Here is a great video by Candace Owens – who Kanye West was quoting about being imprisoned being a choice. Watch this and you will realise how the Biased BBC wilfully misunderstood Kanye’s comments, and ran with it – defending to the death their Democrat friends. – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILQXW2Ob1PU
I knew that local elcetions hadn’t gone to BBC plan when I switched on the news yesterday and the first article was about Stormy Daniels, not Liebour taking over London.
Apologies for mentioning another source, but the lead item on the ITN News this evening was the response of a London surgeon to President Trump’s comment that a London hospital was like a war zone and that instead of guns we had knives. Firstly this is not news it is opinion. Secondly another surgeon did say that. The figures have been appalling. But that didn’t deter the “experts” with their disdainful comments that Trump needs to be “educated”.
The BBC is but a spec of dirt on Trump’s windscreen.
May I please be allowed to top up his screen wash?
President Trump is giving the BBC a new word to play with – recission – basically he will discuss with Congress tomorrow how to cut the pork out of the Omnibus budget that they recently passed. Once again he is proving to be the ‘Very Stable Genius’ he said he was, in trying to achieve some sort of control of runaway spending and the 20 T$ budget deficit. As it’ll have nothing to do with their negative agenda of ‘Russia, Mueller and Stormy’ they’ll no doubt ignore this potentially cataclysmic pressuring of the Swamp.