Start the Week Open Thread 3 September 2018

Tough times for the Far Left BBC. Its favourite political party is busy getting a civil war going and the party it hates is busily trying to stop conservatives joining the Tory Party. So as Parliament returns we can expect the BBC  to be in full bias mode – 12 days later the MPs go on their holidays again for the last Conference Season before we leave their EU.

On September 9 Sweden has a general election where the single anti immigration party is predicted to get 20% of the vote . Apparently the swedes have got fed up with vibrant handgenade attacks which are fashionable there at the moment and no doubt will feature in Britain sometime soon . The far left BBC will be on hand to tell us how thick and ‘Far Right’   20% of the population is…..

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636 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 3 September 2018

  1. Deborah says:

    Trust the BBC to take to wrong angle over the anti-Semitism row with Jeremy Corbyn.
    Jews will criticise Israel. It isn’t a perfect country and when you are under attack on all sides, sometimes you may get things wrong. The problem is that non-Jews will criticise Israel and will not do the same for other countries. Human rights, anyone? China are you listening? Treatment of women? Treatment of homosexuals? No, Corbyn and his crew want to criticise only Israel and hold it to a higher account than any other country in the world. That is anti-Semitism. But of course the BBC cannot spell that out because they too want to hold Israel to a higher account than anyone else. (Mishal H are you listening?). Nothing the BBC correspondents like more than complaining about Israel. That is anti-Semitism.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Vine “Tax the Rich to help the poor.. The Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby has led a new report”
    – first we get a soft bit with Catherine Coalbrooke from a lefty/green thinktank IPPR about their report
    Not just about tax, but rather 73 new lefty controls
    – then 40 second from righty think tank woman Sheila Lawlor of Politeia
    “We can’t simply put taxes up, the Laffer curve proves you get less money in”
    – then Jonathon Bartley from Green party

    \\ Today @IPPR launches their report on #EconomicJustice which proposes a more dynamic #IndustrialStrategy and a national investment bank in the UK, Read online here: https://www.ippr.org/cej

    Caller mentions the report doesn’t ‘We could get rid of foreign aid, and tax normal people’s profits from house price gains’

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    • Kaiser says:

      simple question your un-holiness HOW?

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      • G says:

        SG and Kaiser,
        Before getting in the bath yesterday evening, I tuned the radio into BBC R4 to catch the news headlines at 2200. I caught the last 7/10 minutes of Rabbi Sachs. Within seconds of listening, the listener cannot fail to appreciate that these people occupy some strange parallel universe from which they drop into ours from time to time to set out how it is in their universe. Welby?
        He has had some business experience but as what? A “Treasurer”. What does that mean in terms of hard, worldly business experience?
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Welby
        He also occupies that other parallel universe.

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    • StewGreen says:

      How’s JV do on tax ?
      \\ if everyone including Jeremy Vine were paid as PAYE employees rather than setting up companies with their children as directors the tax coffers of the country would be considerably better. //

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      The Church burned millions in the the early nineties with disastrous “investment” in land deals that they are still having to pay up for.
      Who else to tell the rest of us how to tax and spend?
      And now their share in Wonga has gone, and Wonga are no more?
      Well, they`ve learned nothing have they?
      Might ask my vicar to be my new bank manager, we need a new roof and she`s dim enough to stump up.
      Welby is an idiot.

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    • Kaiser says:

      so its all the parents fault , naughty parents look at the trouble you caused

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      • BRISSLES says:

        The word ‘forced’ is a bit inflammatory. According to law…..

        “In England, Northern Ireland and Wales, a child is someone who has not yet reached their 18th birthday. Once they turn 18, they are legally an adult.” (which is, as we know, ridiculous, considering the age of consent for sex is 16)

        ‘Forced’ conjures up all sorts of images – ….. being shackled and held down / being threatened etc etc.

        However, I would like to believe that the parents took the decision in the child’s best interest for her future.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          I see its in today’s Mirror – but its staggering that this story happened in the year 2001, and has it really taken 17 years to come to court ?

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    • Old Goat says:

      He is in the woods playing with Little John…

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  3. StewGreen says:

    The cancer death of the 5Live presenter Rachel Bland is her family’s business
    but I doubt today if you’ll find a beeboid’s twitter account that doesn’t mention her to signal virtue.

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  4. Zelazek says:

    I have never been impressed by Stella Creasy’s reasoning powers and her call to make misogyny an aggravating factor in a crime is another index to her intellect. To be sure, there are sometimes aggravating (or mitigating) factors in the commission of a crime that deserve to be taken into consideration – committing the crime whilst on licence or when being severely provoked, for example – but the fashionable hate crime absurdities of people like Creasy should be thrown out the window. Especially since the “hate” involved is only ever hate against the Left’s favourite groups. Creasy, for the sake of mere logic, should also be calling for misandry to be an aggravating factor – in fact for every type of hate against every kind of person, object or idea. But I think that until our age of stupidity, sensible lawmakers recognised that if someone was beating you up and robbing you, a negative feeling towards you from your attacker was probably already present and could be assumed. The law only needed to punish the action, not the mindset.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Zel
      How true – ambitious politicians like her look for an easy source of progression and has got one . As I said – the hate crime industry will land up strangling itself and the criminal justice system with potentially insane attempts at prosecutions in circumstances even the most creative imagination

      When Stella loses her vote she will be touring the TV studios playing the victim and glorying in her made up campaign . With a bit of luck another professional victim – madam Soubry – will do her act too…

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      • Zelazek says:

        I expect you are right, Fed, that she will be playing the victim in TV studios with those eyes of hers that seem permanently on the verge of tears. She should have gone into acting. Oh, wait, she has.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      Violence and harassment are already crimes and they are sufficient: if someone gives you unwanted attention tell them to stop and if they persist that is harassment. I thought women were so empowered? I have seen girls give withering put downs to the sort of pathetic men who give them unwanted attention. Liberals really the worst sort of sexists and racists in insisting certain groups need extra protection as they are too pathetic to get along without special treatment.

      The idea of calling the Police because someone does not like you is absurd. In the next breath she will complain there are not enough Police, why on earth burden them with tracking thought crime when theft, violence and murder are out of control?

      The greater the law the greater the injustice. So there will be a whole crack team to report on a problem which barely exists, all exagerrating the problem to justify their well paid positions. Liberals will have wasted another fortune of others’ money on nothing. Indeed the definition of ‘misogyny’ will probably be expanded to the point where robust debate, banter and reasonable opinions held by the majority of people become thought crimes. A load of cash spent just making the world a worse place.

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  5. smoogie7 says:

    A bad session for Corbyn in today’s PMQs where he was exposed for being the anti Semite that he is by refusing to apologise yet the BBC have over looked this and Laura Kuenssberg simply regarded it as ‘scrappy tetchy exchanges’

    Why can they not admit that Corbyn is an awful politician?

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Oh has story been mentioned less than the similar petrol device against an Edinburgh temple ?
    (see previous page)
    https://twitter.com/cccammy1/status/1035810014462652416

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  7. Loobyloo says:

    NHS ‘female parts’ gynaecology definition slammed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-45410988

    As with many items, it is what the bBBC don’t say that is concerning here. They don’t specify what ‘language’ people are outraged at… is it ‘making babies’ or is it ‘female parts’? So we are a little farther forward to the eradication of the concept of female in biology.
    I am particularly interested in this quote:
    ‘My son is 11 and has just done sexual health awareness at primary school and he didn’t talk in that language,” she said.He was able to convey that women’s bodies and reproduction wasn’t simply where babies come out. To say I was a little bit shocked was an understatement.’
    Well actually, in a very brief layman’s form, it is where babies are made/come out. Any other reason for having a reproductive system?
    Also interesting that they have a definition for male but not female circumcision.
    Scientists need to take a stand now, before it’s too late.

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  8. StewGreen says:

    Today’s TV spitting SJW stuff at you
    9pm BBC1 DIY SOS Grenfell Part 1/2


    9pm BBC2 part 2 of We ar British Jews
    10pm BBC4 Documentary looking at Britain during the 18th century, a time of sexual excess and liberation.

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    • StewGreen says:

      SJW on Radio today
      11am Jameela Jamil
      2:15pm Another true story about African-American lawyer CB King as he fights for Civil Rights in the violent, racist counties of the Southern States of America in the 1960s.
      (“warning : uses racist language from the time”)
      3pm How can Britain attract MORE migrants phone in
      4;30pm Media Show : Steve Bannon’s photo is used on the empty page
      (hmm Bannon has just been martyred New Yorker’ Editor Explains Why Steve Bannon Was Dropped From Festival )
      “Matthew Wright to do afternoons on talkRADIO ”
      8pm The Fix : the issue of social media for young people in schools. How harmful is it?
      And what can we do to protect young people from these negative effects?
      The title is strangely similar to the BBC WS prog “People Fixing the World”

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      • StewGreen says:

        3pm R4 “Are you an immigrant please call in
        ..We are going to hear from 4 immigrants who came to the UK”
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bgrsj0
        check the programme picture

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      • StewGreen says:

        4:30pm Econmist’s editor Zanny Minton Beddoe will be on saying why she has NOT banned Steve Bannon.
        Seems no non-lib voice will be on the show

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      • StewGreen says:

        Media Show ..when I pointed out that the show was all metro-liberals against Bannon and no counter voice, MatthewWright responded with an ad hom “Is it one of your three followers?”
        ..well that shows his class

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Meanwhile the muzzie s plot to kill that mans kids .

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  9. MarkyMark says:

    Oh Islam, you cannot accept nature …

    “You might expect Iran’s state broadcaster to remove images of women eating cucumbers on television – but the backsides of buffaloes and the outlines of ears under headscarves?”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-45421865

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0574d7d6019410734ee52e864b8ce03cef8235e85f874194a042674a3546a12d.png

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  10. G says:

    “Rewriting history and erasing images are symptoms of budding totalitarianism. The moon landing was “one giant step for mankind.” Omitting the planting of the American flag is another small step away from freedom and toward totalitarianism. Totalitarians do not really care whether you believe their lies. If you do, you help to maintain their power. If, however, you do not believe the lies, yet are forced to repeat them, you admit that you have sold your mind — and perhaps your soul.”
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12958/american-flag-moon-gosling

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  11. Fedup2 says:

    Terrorist attack in Majorca by North Africa with a knife . Stabbed to Germans , legged it, came back and got shot – alive sadly …wonder how long it will take the Spaniards to become Italian?

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  12. Beeb Brother says:

    ‘Dr Who moves to Sunday . . . Calorie count menus attacked . . . Note left on ambulance windscreen . . . Coleen Nolan pulls out of Loose Women . . . Joys of a £4m jackpot.’

    Who guards the guardians when the guardian is closing its eyes and hiding beneath a fluffy blanket?

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Sheffield Court : ISIS supporters were attempting to manufacture an explosive device involving a driverless car
    (I predicted this in April 2017)
    https://twitter.com/TerrorToday/status/1037024817973739520

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Claim students have invented magic O-wind turbine that works in cities
    Bet BBC won’t report that.. it’s on Youtube as well

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  15. StewGreen says:

    “Join me David Milliband for the Dream of World Government
    .. as we look back at the archives on Radio4 this Saturday night”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bgvfgk

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I was at do where Miliband senior was talking when he was foreign sec and the power had really got to him – think it was all the oils and marble in the FCO – and boy he could talk the hind legs off a dog but then I thought – would I buy a 2nd hand car -or any hand car off him – no sez I .

      Perhaps the programme is a kind of audition for the next Bond Villian with a ghastly scheme to cause a world banana shortage thereby undermining the West – guest I could be wrong though…

      He still fancies himself as president of something

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  16. StewGreen says:

    US takes £900m out of Palestinian funding
    ..the UK has announced it’s putting in an extra £7m

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  17. StewGreen says:

    Another contempt of court revoked
    ..judge didn’t give woman enough time to find solicitor
    So rebuked cos woman was 4 weeks in prison
    https://www.litigationfutures.com/news/court-of-appeal-judge-wrong-to-jail-unrepresented-woman-for-contempt

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – wonder if these judges are so tied down by legal process that when they are unfettered with their own powers under ‘contempt’ they like to let rip and bang people up on a whim with the damage done by the time a remedy comes along.

      as long as it remembered that lawyers have no heart their position can be realised.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    The Kent people trafficking industry
    3 whites just convicted inc Ex Naval Officer
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6131785/Retired-Royal-Navy-officer-70-jailed-getting-caught-smuggling-immigrants.html

    Another 2 just charged
    Another 3 featured in the BBC documentary The Prosecutors last month

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  19. StewGreen says:

    \\A former property tycoon who was once one of Britain’s richest men is a convicted rapist who has hidden his past for two decades, //
    Simon Halabi was born in Syria

    For a rape in France he got a suspended sentence
    + \\ Halabi appeared in court in 2015 after calling a binman a “black c***” and a “monkey”.
    He was cleared of racially aggravated assault after telling jurors: “I didn’t mean this in a racist way.” //

    Show me when a white person got away like that

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  20. MarkyMark says:

    Yeah …. the BBC reports on the BBC producing a BBC centric BBC programme Dr Who as reported on the BBC site which has 50% coverage of UK news … BBC … 33e9d764ab5b2415238916155aabb1aaa5a579d36f5324950f270272343a94aa.png

    You have to pay, or the BBC will take you away (to jail).

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  21. StewGreen says:

    nuclear disaster: Japan confirms first worker death from radiation

    I bet more died in the typhoon yesterday
    Yep “11 DEATHS, AND 600 INJURED AS TYPHOON JEBI BATTERS JAPAN”

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  22. countryblues says:

    BBC last night : WANDERLUST.

    The blurb portrayed this as a new black comedy…well, I quite like black comedies (usually) and I found it to be neither black nor comedy…I won’t be watching this again 🙁

    Is it just me, or have I become a miserable old git?

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    The far left BBC is running a piece on Sweden as the election approaches. Sweden seems to have gone from the “ideal” country always used as a reference point for how “bad” Blighty is in comparison.
    Now that the Swedish Government has imported 160000? third worlders in a year – bigger proportion than what Merkel did to the Krauts -the Swedes are getting fedup with them. Strangely the article doesn’t mention the fashionable hand grenade attacks and other third world muslim organised crime .

    Lord God – please give the Anti Immigration Party 25% of the vote or more – the Polls suggest 20% apparently but the MSM has brainwashed the Swedes similarly to Blighty.

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    • JimS says:

      It might just be that Ruth Alexander is on her summer holidays there and she gets her hotel and travel expenses paid as long as she puts in a few reports on the locals.

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  24. Holly Selassie says:

    Radio 4 news at 7am introduced some forrinpoppit as the BBCs “global health correspondent”.
    Excuse me-who on earth gets to give some nomark stringer a title like THAT?
    Was this the newsreaders idea of a joke?
    Because by the time 8a.m came along, she seemed to have lost her title.

    Now THAT`S real news for the BBC-hope she got a suitably massive girly payoff, maybe it was a sexist tease.

    We have to find our comedy where we can these days, don`t we? BBC s”Today” is maybe the last place where unscripted comedy is guaranteed if you`re weird or stuck in traffic.

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    • StewGreen says:

      They’ve got 2 ?
      @TulipMazumdar
      Global Health Correspondent for BBC News.
      (latest retweet is about a BBC R5 person of course)

      Smitha Mundasad @smithamundasad
      BBC News global health correspondent and presenter. Erstwhile globe-trotting medical doctor

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  25. carterdaniel says:

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  26. Holly Selassie says:

    Once upon a time, we used to get the news when the first bottle of Beaujolais landed in the UK. Quite a race to do it.
    Well, now the Calais jungle is there, imagine they`ll not be pushing that one anytime hence.
    But wait-the BBC this morning said that the NHS has had some new cancer treatment rushed through, fastest shortest time between lab to flab.
    Well done NICE, hats off to RNHS and -of course “fantastic achievement” says the white coat with a double barrelled name.
    Only the Beeb eh?…fastest non-process in the world.
    None of that David Hemery stuff then?

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  27. carterdaniel says:

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  28. G.W.F. says:

    Not BBC bias but newsworthy
    The John Lewis Christmas advert. Can’t see much connection to Christmas, so it will score BBC points.
    But – it is hideously white, both children and parents.
    Waaycist!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/user/JohnLewisRetail

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Oooops, someone tells me it is not a Christmas ad. Sorry.
      But it is still Waaycist and white.

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    • JimS says:

      Hideously white? Really? I saw more ‘blacks’ than I would see in a year of real life. Were there any ‘browns’? Maybe not as it isn’t their sort of thing.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      It cut through my innate, sneering cynicism.

      Get shot of the BBC and let John Lewis make dramas and comedies.

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  29. Dystopian says:

    So the other day Sajid Whatshisface announces that he will clamp down on child abuse/exploitation. Today adult themed search terms bring up zero results on Google. So I’m a dirty old sod for looking for ADULT stuff but the stealth censorship has begun…..and the Muslim rapists are still out there….

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  30. LastChanceSaloon says:

    BBC Business 2018-09-05
    Pound rises on Brexit ‘progress’ report

    “Any deal that avoids the worst-case scenario of a no-deal exit is likely to cause significant sterling strength, even if it is no more than a can-kicking exercise in the classic Brussels style.”
    said Ranko Berich, head of market analysis at Monex Europe.

    “worse case scenario” Bollox.
    How many stones did the BBC have to look under before they discovered Wanko?

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  31. taffman says:

    Brexit
    This time its Tweezer to Olly………….
    “Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten me into ”
    Some say Al Beeb may have some breaking news about that shortly ?

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  32. G.W.F. says:

    Passengers sick and poorly ill on Emirates flight.
    So far little known of the cause. I hope they served camel’s piss at the correct temperature, and hope the staff serving food had a good wash after wiping their bums with their fingers.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45425412

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    • Despairada says:

      Oh dear. There’s a flu epidemic in Mecca. What a shame.

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      • Alicia Sinclair says:

        Wonder if this flu you mention will kill more off during the next Hajj than the record breaking one in 2016 when the cranes collapsed? Only they would use the useless Bin Laden Co to build, he was as bad as O’Reilly in Fawlty Towers. All those deaths, every year and no real clue about how many actually died? Like Mid- Staffs, and no bothering from Al Beebani.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Strange that it is 100 years since the big flu epidemic and there is a theory of recurrence – such a place would infect the planet pretty quickly – and with the Arab plane with a sick crew inNewYork all a bit worrying …

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  33. Dover Sentry says:

    Along with the rest of the world, I’m still waiting for a positive comment from the BBC about Trump.

    Or maybe I missed it? 🙂

    Along with the rest of the world, I’m still waiting for a positive comment from the BBC about Brexit.

    Again, maybe I missed it? 🙂

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  34. Fedup2 says:

    The voyeurism bill has passed the House of Expenses so some people will have to find a new hobby . the fragrant Ms Creaseys ammendment to include mysogeny in the criminal law has been referred to the Law Commission.

    There will be a report sometime about 2030 that it is a stupid idea which Came at a time when snowflakes were bewildered that a majority of the UK didn’t want the country to be open door and that American had voted for a President who does what he promised in the campaign – except, unfortunately for locking up Hilary .

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  35. carterdaniel says:

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  36. taffman says:

    Yet more trumpaphobia on Al Beeb. Just like the reports of daily knife killing in Londonistan, its becoming boring now.

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  37. taffman says:

    “UK and France come to agreement on fishing in war ” – English fishermen stop fishing until Frenchmen are allowed to fish.
    Nothing but appeasement from this supine government.
    We need a new leader.

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  38. taffman says:

    Now it’s the New York Times V Trump . Over to you Al Beeb .

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    • StewGreen says:

      Backstory : Anonymous Editorial in NYT
      ‘ I’m a WhiteHouse insider and I see the President is an idiot’
      Trump responds : “Anonymous ” = “Gutless”
      ‘look what we’ve achieved’


      next tweet

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      • StewGreen says:

        Is there some connection between the NYT and the BBC …Mark Thompson ?

        Ha first thing I see is the Venezuelan government tweeting the BBC story
        https://twitter.com/notiven/status/1037460412105732097

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      • Guest Who says:

        BBC morning email via the ex-bbc DG ‘source who says’ fave paper in the USA…

        “Trump official ‘part of resistance’

        First a book by the journalist Bob Woodward suggested that some of Donald Trump’s top officials have been engaged in an “administrative coup d’état” against him. Now, in an anonymous opinion piece in the New York Times, a member of the president’s staff writes that they and others are working to frustrate his “worst inclinations”. “This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state,” the author writes. “It’s the work of the steady state.”

        Mr Trump has hit back in typically forthright style, calling the official “gutless” and the newspaper “phony”. “Treason?” he asks on Twitter. But the New York Times says it’s “incredibly proud” to publish the piece.”

        “Anonymous”. “Suggested”. So, about as expected.

        Now, what does pride come before?

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      They certainly seem to be redoubling their efforts to unseat Trump. I hope it signifies that he is close to dealing them a damaging blow and that this is desperation.

      I also hope that Trump has made sure that if he falls, he brings the whole house of cards down with him.

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  39. taffman says:

    Two Russian assassins identified. How did they get in ?
    Poor border control . May has to go. The safety of the people of this country has been put at risk.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

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      • Guest Who says:

        Ah… but… you reckon without the expertise of John ‘I will skeem and skeem’ Sweeney, who is totes convinced.

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        • Guest Who says:

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  40. Celtic_Mist says:

    I placed two complaints with the BBC:

    “At 18:12 on BBC One Nick Bryant said, “Listen to these quotes from White House Chief of Staff…” This can be taken to mean that the quotes are factually accurate and therefore I have submitted a complaint”

    “At 22.16 on BBC One Nick Bryant said, “Many readers will see in this book an accurate rendering of history”. My Complaint is that the BBC is not in a position to endorse the accuracy of the material in the book and therefore Nick’s statement must be withdrawn.”

    This is their reply –

    “Thank you for contacting us regarding BBC One’s ‘News at Six’ broadcast on 04 September.

    I understand you were unhappy with the content of the item in which we reported on the release of excerpts from Bob Woodward’s new book about President Trump’s Whitehouse. I also note you have submitted a second complaint on this issue (CAS-5074288); the following response will address both cases.

    We appreciate the time you’ve taken to raise this with us, however, we would explain that a Bob Woodward expose book has been a rite of passage for presidential administrations since the storied investigative reporter first made a name for himself by breaking Richard Nixon’s Watergate scandal.

    Nick Bryant’s intention was to cover Donald Trump’s turn under the microscope, and discuss the potential implications of the book’s content. It was clearly explained by both Sophie and Nick that the quotes mentioned are from Mr Woodward’s book.

    We would also point out that Nick concluded the report stating, “Given Bob Woodward’s standing in Washington […] this is going to be hard to write off as fake news. Indeed, this feels like real, authentic history”.

    As the BBC’s United States Correspondent a fundamental part of Nick’s role is to give our audience an informed and impartial analysis of key political events, using his experience and judgement. We believe that his reporting has been entirely consistent with this.

    Nonetheless, please be assured, we appreciate your feedback on this issue and I have passed your comments forward on a report which will be read by senior BBC management and the programme’s production team.

    Once again, thank you for taking the time to contact us.

    Kind regards

    Emma Duff

    BBC Complaints Team

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

    NB This is sent from an outgoing account only which is not monitored. You cannot reply to this email address but if necessary please contact us via our webform quoting any case number we provided.”

    The belief systems of the BBC journalists are clearly set out here –
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45427838

    This is an admission of bias which comes from their honestly held beliefs. The unwitting victims of this are those in their audience who still think the BBC is fair and balanced.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Nice effort Celtic but one of those soviet type replies that the far left al beeb is so good at . Like those on the ‘your yiew’ Rubbish which I gave up on after a respected journo – ray snoddy – got fed up with the lies and left .

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  41. Celtic_Mist says:

    Now going after the professionals in the Executive.
    Mattis and Kelly both deny the alleged quotes attributed to them by Woodward but as the opinion piece above reveals the BBC are going as far as to label them as liars. If it wasn’t happening one one have say it is unbelievable that this is the way our national broadcaster is behaving. Surely somebody from the US administration should have a word with Ofcom or whoever is responsible for overseeing.

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  42. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    I don’t understand the following BBC headline and story:
    BBC Headline: “What’s the Brexiteers’ alternative plan?

    The BBC article begins: “As Westminster is settling down to the next phase of its collective mild nervous breakdown, the pushback to Brexiteers’ criticism of Theresa May’s Chequers plan is that the naysayers don’t have their own …
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45423791

    Now the result of the 2016 EU Referendum was a vote for Brexit. So the government should be implementing Brexit – so their policies should be called “brexiteer policy” … yet in this BBC article, the BBC’s political editor is saying something else – that “Brexiteers” are trying to disrupt Theresa May’s policy. Yet isn’t Theresa May supposed to be implementing Brexit policies. What the feck is the BBC going on about? Are they so wrapped up in their own propaganda that they are talking nonsense?

    In fact the term “brexiteers” was invented by ardent Remainers as a term of abuse for all those that voted to leave the EU. Now we have the BBC’s political editor using this pejorative term in her articles.

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  43. Fedup2 says:

    Toady Watch

    Bias by omission
    The far left BBC love the NHS. So when the new Health Secretary points out that the NHS use of technology to communicate is 20th not 21st century it remains strongly uncritical.
    For instance – a lot of fax machines are used and not computers . I know why this is as it is – and the BBC will not say it – it is to enable these so called Health Professionals to avoid personal responsibility for what the do and don’t do.

    An email is easy to audit . A fax sheet is easy to lose. IT can’t be changed but a fax can be left unread due to ‘workload ‘ .

    I know that a few medics use this site so I would love to be put right . My personal experience of the medical profession leads me to never trust it again because it is self serving – bit like the BBC .

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Possibly. But health professionals also tend to produce a lot of handwritten notes and sometimes small sketches, or have pre-printed forms that have to be marked e.g. to show locations of injuries to the body. None of these things readily lend themselves to email. With some NHS authorities, the pages are scanned and sent electronically and can then be viewed from within an email, but it is not universal. It is more to do with technical change and inconsistencies in technology and methods of working than an intention to avoid personal responsibility. (I have some experience in this field).

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      • Guest Who says:

        Not the best IT whizz, but I have and use several e-Apps that enable sketches to be drawn or added to any email. Plus links to citations. I doubt there is even an NHS porter without the latest iPhone.

        What does concern me is how human medics stick their noses in folders to avoid patient contact if at all possible.

        After an evening emergency I was was put in an A&E ward. About 3am I was woken up to be moved to another. Next morning the mother consultant and trainee hens assembled at the base of the bed. “So, Mr. Kumar…” he started. The hens tittered as I corrected him. The white board name and chart from the previous owner had not been changed. I wondered if he was no longer there as a result of being treated for what the patient preceding him had been suffering from.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Thanks Ian
        I recounted a time when my GP tried to sent a fax to the District Nurse on a Friday afternoon but strangely the fax at their end didn’t work . So I drove 2 miles and hand delivered the damn thing. I didn’t get a happy reception . I really believe these health professional hide behind out of date technology for their own benefit .
        The last attempt to computerise the NHS failed and I bet the next one will too.

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          The last attempt to computerise the NHS failed and I bet the next one will too.
          Yes, it will. But at least foreign owned IT companies are making billions on the endless schemes and it provides employment for junior programmers in Bangalore 🙂

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  44. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Post-Brexit migrant farm worker visa scheme announced””

    “”UK fruit and vegetable growers will be able to recruit non-EU migrants as seasonal workers after Brexit under a new pilot scheme.””

    “”Ministers stressed that the pilot will be closely monitored and could close if there is evidence migrant workers were not returning to their home countries when their visas expire.””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45429397

    So, we will leave our doors open again to the rest of the world.

    All so that farmers can maintain their profits. If wages were raised to UK levels, they would have plenty of UK workers to choose from.

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    • JimS says:

      If the EU were ‘a good thing’ then eastern Europe’s countries would be doing better and their people would be in good jobs, in which case eventually there wouldn’t be any migrant farm workers anyway.

      In the UK we have spent a lot of time and money trying to develop ‘the regions’ but ‘free movement’ within the UK means that our young are still drawn to London for better pay or more opportunities. The EU is effectively doing the same, pushing money at the east while the people move to the west. (Perhaps that is why they want to fill the east with Africans?).

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    • Deborah says:

      Dover, if you consider return on capital, few if any farmers make more than what they would get at the bank depositing their money even at present rates of interest. Farm income is very tightly balanced and this year farmers with stock are certainly with negative income. The drought will have certainly caused farmers growing horticultural produce to also be lucky to break even even with CAP payments. Even James Dyson, when interviewed on Countryfile explained that without CAP payments, his 30,000 acres (I think he said he has) would lose money. Even allowing for economies of scale, once into a loss, the bigger the farm, the greater the loss. Farmers need good years to cover the losses of poor years. And yes farmers may live in big houses, but usually because they come with the job, expensive to heat, so usually cold. But particularly farmers on the west side of Britain, will be some of the poorest, working enormously long hours.
      Perhaps if UK benefits were less, British people may be prepared to work on the land, but don’t think there is money in the farmers’ back pockets to pay increased wages.

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      • Kaiser says:

        our benefits system doesn’t encourage seasonal work, if anything it actively discourages it.

        the laughingly named job clubs make yoiu actually attend for several hours a day, so you cant pop off and do some occasional work.

        If you get a job, you sign off, your benefits stop and when the job finishes you have to wait a couple of weeks or so to sign on again.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      No mention at all on why the seasonal workers have to be non-EU. Surely as part of the Brexit betrayal negotiations, we would perhaps be keeping the door open for EU agricultural workers to help out (if that is indeed a necessity). As it stands, under the current system, non-EU workers who have managed to stay here for 6 years are entitled to remain here permanently. Again, no mention.

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      • Deborah says:

        Apparently a lower pound means the EU workers don’t want to come here anymore, they can earn more in their own country. Never believe a word you hear on the BBC. They are guaranteed to only tell you half a story.

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      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Seasonal workers should be British. There should be systems in place to allow this to happen. Overall it would be significantly cheaper than importing labour from abroad. The trouble is our politicians are useless and cannot think outside of their own careerists little bubbles. There should be scope for people to make a living in the farming industry / agriculture that involves connected seasonal work including use of cheap dormitories. Alternatively it could be included within the overbloated education and welfare systems – with students or long term unemployed getting paid for the work.

        If imported Labour can manage then so can indigenous Labour manage it.

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  45. Fedup2 says:

    It’s weird that on either side of the pond there are far left groups going on and on about what they don’t like – kidults I suppose – America has the constant MSM campaign to unseat the current president and on this side we have the daily ‘terrible brexit ‘ lies .
    Campaigning for your side is one thing but failing to even accept the legitimacy of a democratic vote Trump/Brexit is something else . It’s not nazism or fascism but it is an equally bad time for the future .

    With the far left bbc throwing petrol on the fire 24 hours a day in every thing it poisons .

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  46. Fedup2 says:

    Now that the Russian cat is formally out of the bag on the Salisbury poisoning does anyone think it was right to send an English football team to the World Cup .?

    And as Mrs May promises reprisals via cyber attacks et al I wonder how long it will take the Russians to pull the plug on something in Britain – if it’s al beeb I wont complain….

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    • Dystopian says:

      So a couple of Russians are suspected of killing a British citizen on British soil. Oh the hypocrisy. Listening to the outrage about the alleged Russian involvement. Cries for sanctions against Russians. Refuse all Russians visas, refuse all Russians entry to the country etc etc.
      Now, what if it were a couple of Africans? Afghans? Muslims?
      What happened when Trump tried to ban all Muslims?

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Mrs May is milking the Salisbury incident for all it’s worth. It’s a soap opera that begs to be written, including Mrs May doing her African dance routine.

      Strangely, or maybe not, no one is investigating the connection between Mr Skripal, our secret services, Christopher Steele and the fake Russia document on President Trump.

      Our swamp dwellers are up to their eyeballs in these matters and more and I don’t believe a word that Mrs May, or anyone in the state apparatus, tells us, about anything. And the Mockingbird media are part of this web of lies, dissimulation and distraction.

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      • Kaiser says:

        Im really bemused by this episode

        two burly bearded russians fly in from moscow with novichok
        (a highly unstable chemical weapon with a short shelf life)
        in their luggage presumably disguised in the perfume bottle (can you take liquids on russian planes) and nobody at british customs bats an eye lid.

        rent a hotel room and carelessly leave traces of novichok behind
        but not enough to cause risk to other guests who were staying at the hotel at the time, police say

        whilst rumour has it that security vehicles used in the investigation have been buried in a secret location just in case

        they travel to salisbury by train (not an armoured aston martin or even a hired polo) in daylight smiling at the omnipresent cctv cameras.

        walk past the skripals house pop to the front door in daylight and spray a bit of novichok around the door handle

        wander off and dispose of the rest by hiding it in a charity box where it will definitely be found risking a mass poisoning incident in a charity shop, rather than chuck it in a river or out of the train window where it will likely never be found.

        They dont put enough down to kill the skripals but have enough left to kill one woman and hospitalise a bloke who were presumably rooting through the charity bag

        they then fly straight back to russia just to make sure we know they are russians

        we have their names but these know these are aliases ,
        not knowing their names we know they are members of the GRU
        we then issue a european arrest warrant for the two aliases knowing they are false.

        Jeez with a bit of work this could be the script for a new austin powers film or perhaps its perfect for a pink panther revival

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  47. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC London local news headlines blandly inform me Siobhan was stabbed to death in an altercation and Dana has been arrested.

    Naturally our BBC newscaster provides no context. For a moment my addled morning brain has to fill in the blanks. Did a gang fight break out between 1970s Irish female pop singers – in the middle of the road? Did the Nolans come off worse?

    Then the BBC flash up a picture of the victim. A young black man. BBC London news website spells HIS name Shevaun. All becomes clear. It wasn’t a catfight sparked by comparison of their relative Eurovision success. It was just the usual – today’s murder. How about that Mr Sadiq Khan? All part and parcel of living in the big city.

    No picture of the mysterious Dana Powell 27 as yet but one has one’s prejudices (so to speak).

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45430199

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  48. Guest Who says:

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/bbc-fiddles-its-climate-change-figures-as-britain-fails-to-burn/?

    The bbc can be totally trusted… to not report accurately.

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  49. davylars says:

    BBC morning news in meltdown over the the Salisbury poisoning. With pictures of the worst secret Russian agents ever. We know who they are they say, but the passports are probably counterfeit. So in other words, we don’t know who they are.
    Then more Trump bashing over some reliable anonymous source.
    A report on the British scallop fishing dispute in France, but curiously nothing to do with the dispute, they show us some English fisherman gathering scallops by hand. In an environmentally friendly way.
    Finally we have a large report on the joint hottest summer ever. Important questions about the future. Warmed by 1 degree over 50 years. Food prices rising. Hospitals and housing problems in store,
    Dolphins sharks jellyfish and sunfish being photographed in British waters. being proof of climate change. All of the usual doom laden projections. Might, may, possibly, this is what we can expect in the future. Not enough is being done.
    This is the garbage that we pay for with our TV license

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