333 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 17 September 2018

  1. Fred Stubber says:

    If there’s a second referendum it will be the end of UK democracy as it should operate, because voter disillusionment will negate it. Only the Muslims will vote, as soon as there’s a Muslim Party to vote for.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      It will show our votes count for nothing and that alternative methods are necessary.

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    • DICK R says:

      The result of any second referendum has already been fixed , why else do they want one

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    • G says:

      Fred,
      “Only the Muslims will vote, as soon as there’s a Muslim Party to vote for.” This is the muslim Government, ‘in waiting’.
      https://www.mcb.org.uk/

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      At least the Nazis in Germany and Islamisists in Algeria both openly and honestly campaigned and won on a policy to abolish democracy. The only way you can tell that the Remainers are campaigning on a policy to abolish democracy is that they do not respect the result of referendums they lose, and also support the anti-democratic European Union. We also know that the Electoral Commission is run by anti-democratic Remainers. So we know that the system is already set up for a fix. The only reason the Electoral Commission did not fix the last referendum was because they thought that they could not possibly lose the referendum. That was also the reason that the BBC wanted to be balanced. If the BBC was clearly unbalanced and Remain won, it would not have ended the UKIP problem for the establishment.

      It looks like the BBC could bring out programs that prove the FEAR is TRUE. (1) “The EU and Colonialism”: Africa proves that no country could economically survive if not under European rule, (2) “The EU and Russia”: Russia proves that no country could defend itself if not under European rule, (3) “The EU and the Planet”: China proves that no country could save the Planet if not under European rule, (4) “The EU and Islam”: Islam proves that no country can avoid war if not under European rule, and finally (5) “The EU and the BBC”: The BBC proves that no country could avoid fake news if not under European rule.

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    • kingkp says:

      Well the time is fast approaching where I am now considering not paying tax to the UK government and settling abroad. The country is a mess, full of far too many imbeciles.

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    Hi Fred
    The second referendum dream assumes that ‘we ll get it right next time ‘ in accordance with ReichEU rules but just supposing the outcome was the same again. ?

    You’re right about the Muslim party ( which may well be the Socialist Halal Labour Party ) but hopefully the Sunni and Shi’a branches will destroy each other.

    Gove played a good game over the weekend devaluing the May chequers sell out but it needs our brother locked to the ReichEU such as Hungary to do a real job of blocking any deal.

    Like the great employment figures on the previous thread as well as the fact that guest workers are going home because of the strength of the euro v Sterling it’s all good. But won’t see that on al beeb

    The guardian is shocked a survey of 4000 which found that 40% of the British population thinks multiculturalism is a threat to the british way of life – I’m guessing the survey was done in London because the other 60% would be foreigners – if they understood English of course ….

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      “Diversity” has become the new catchword of Anglo-American liberal elites in recent years, replacing “multiculturalism”. It is being used to force through change in society using “positive discrimination”.

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      • DICK R says:

        In a similar way that multi culturalism is just a euphemistic term for multi RACIALISM, the real aim .

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        In the 80’s the left-wing morons were going on about Blacks and Whites being the same, dreaming of a World of identical clones. Now they have gone completely the other way with the worship of diversity, it now seems that having identical twins is frowned upon.

        Although there doesn’t seem to be any political or intellectual diversity on the BBC. The Brexit majority, Causational Climate Scientists, Intelligent White males and even Labour MP’s with scientific qualifications are effectively banned from appearing on the BBC.

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      • Holly Selassie says:

        Funny how “multiculturalism” got binned as soon as Merkel said that it was no longer helpful.
        It was a failed policy. So it wasn`t allowed to be referred to again, in polite company. And-of course-the BBC, Sky, Guardian etc-all complied.
        Merkels word is law…she`s our dumpy Obama you know.
        Would love to be between Merkel and Hillary, to see who best suits a briar pipe and Madame Mao pantsuit. Ought to be jumpsuits really.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Fedup,
      I fully believe that us leavers would easily have more votes than the remainers and a bigger percentage than the 52% last time.
      However.
      I also fully believe that any result will be fiddled to show a remain win.
      I have absolutely no trust in our government and I am sure they would manipulate and cheat to give remain a win.
      I am not alone in thinking this.
      Therefore, no second referendum.

      Anyway, why would people who don’t accept the 2016 referendum result accept a 2018 result if they lost (again) so even if the result was honest we would still have the remoaners crying for a 3rd. 4th. etc. referendum.

      Therefore, another vote is pointless.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Emmanuel
        I was truly shocked by the out come of the Peoples’ referendum because I was sure that that would have been fixed .

        If there is a Next time, because they’ve realised that the majority really have had enough of shared / given away / sovereignty ,I’m sure they’ll fix it .

        Or crunch numbers to show remain should have won and have a best of 3 sometime around 2021

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      • ID says:

        EG
        What I find amusing is the sudden conversion of those who were decrying the referendum and plebescite as the infernal tools of demagogues and rabble rousers after the Brexit referendum to the “People’s vote”. Pompous old remain dodderers would pop up in the media to proclaim the wonders of “our representative democracy” and all kinds of flatulence was produced about the “sovreignty of Parliament”, Now because ” we all know more”, the “People’s vote” will be our salvation.

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      • tarien says:

        Sadly Emmanuel I agree with you. Trust in the establishment to adhere to the people’s vote would be doubtful, the real battle here is against those that control the moeny, the Elitist Bankers that of course control the EU and those men and women that work in the Brissels offices. The Prime Minister presently residing in No 10, tells us that we have to accept her Chequers deal or a no deal-dictatorship not democracy-personally I’ll take my chances with a NO Bexit Deal, and throw off the chains of the EU-Other countries inside the EU will eventually dig themselves out as the EU know quite well.

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Fedup2,

      british-survey.jpg

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Perhaps Anne Marie Waters is right; we are not leaving the EU. Start working towards the destruction of the EU. Start thinking of a post EU world, not an exit.

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  3. AsISeeIt says:

    Lanky lightweight presenter Dan Walker fluffs his lines this morning and one feels he inadvertently exposes his colleagues obsession and indeed heartbreak at the state of current affairs…

    “Hello and welcome to BBC Brexit, er, I mean BBC Breakfast… haha. don’t worry it’s not really BBC Brexit…”

    Our Steph toddles across the road to Salford Uni (the BBC’s idea of a good place to test public opinion!)

    Three Remainer female students to one male Leaver. Par for the course.

    I have to admit our Steph did ask a pertinent question. After one young lass expressed her worries about the possible dire economic consequences of our independence vote Steph querried: “Do you really worry about that sort of thing, when I was a youngster I didn’t used to think about things like that?”

    Good point. But I think you forget, Steph, when you were younger EU propaganda hadn’t got such a grip of the British education system and our national broadcaster wasn’t in full on Remain panic mode pumping out daily scare fake news at our youngsters.

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  4. MarkyMark says:

    “A thoughtcrime is an Orwellian neologism used to describe an illegal thought. The term was popularized in the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, first published in 1949, wherein thoughtcrime is the criminal act of holding unspoken beliefs or doubts that oppose or question Ingsoc, the ruling party.”

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    • tarien says:

      Now we can see for sure Marky Marky that we the indigenous white living with mostly Christian values are under a dictatotship which I find offensive. Of course a vast majority in this nation have predjudice against certain people’s ideology-those that follow the teachings of Islam in particular. Multicutural propaganda has and is being deliberately shoved down our necks at evey turn through the likes of the BBC and other Social Media operators-Politically motivated? Of course, to destroy our sovereignty as the EU has been doing these past 42+ years-it wasn’t that bad when we were NOT inside the EU. Without a deal suits me.

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    • Holly Selassie says:

      Where does a thought crime stop, and a hate crime start?
      over to Matrix Chambers, Cherie Booth and loads of Euros.
      Do we hate to think?…or think while hating?
      Do I see an “All In the Mind” gobswamp with Professor Laurie Taylor, and his son-who sounds like Ed Miliband, had he been a ventriloquists dummy.

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  5. AsISeeIt says:

    On BBC London News our Asad Ahmed sounds pretty excited about his top headline. “The number of Far-Right prisoners in jail has increased five-fold in the last two years!” He has another stat for us “For the first time the number of white people arrested for terror offenses….” etc etc etc – I’m sure you get the message. Oh, and just incase you didn’t quite learn the lesson the BBC wanted you to learn our Asad gives you a quick reminder of that nasty chap (‘radicalised online’ no less – and presumably not a bit mental at all) who ran his van into “muslim pedestrians outside a mosque…” etc etc etc.

    Do you remember when you were at school, some years ago, I know. Anyway, do you recall how you would have a morning assembly led by the headmaster first thing in the day and he would often drone on moralising about something or other. Perhaps telling you some far-fetched sounding tale all in an attempt to make you think in a certain way, banishing any rogue independent ideas, and basically trying to control your potentially devient behaviour… well, otherwise, how would the teacher get you to do what they wanted you to do. You were kids then.

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    • kingkp says:

      Far right being your average Tory vote of yesteryear of course…someone who believes in the rule of law, democracy, an independent judiciary, innocent until proven guilty, facts being important and trumping emotion..those kind of white anglo-saxon male virtues that are so terrifying to muslims and most women.

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  6. Cassandra says:

    Earlier this morning on Toady there was a report on a test that could identify the gender of a foetus. The report went on to highlight the fact that some mothers use this information to abort the foetus if it was a girl. The Labour MP Naz Shah was interviewed on her thoughts about the subject. Shah if you remember, was suspended by the Labour Party for anti semitic comments in 2016. In 2017 she ‘liked’ a tweet which included this sentence, “Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity”. Shah deleted the retweet and unliked the tweet soon after. Why did Toady choose her to comment on the foetus gender test story?
    Nowhere was it mentioned in the report that this is a practice rife in South Asian communities in the UK.
    Another example of blatant manipulation of the facts by the BBC to shield their ‘allies’ in their reporting.

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  7. Swelter says:

    Oh we get it asiseeit.. The Brexit vote was a modern day equivalent of the Peasants revolt and now we are vilified and belittled at every opportunity. .And Our Liberal masters are now coming for us with every means at their deposal to make sure we pay for our temerity .

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  8. Panda says:

    They will never have another straight in/out vote don’t worry. But the remoaner crowd think they’re being really clever by offering a vote on Mrs Mays’ partly staying in the EU ‘deal’ or staying in the EU fully.
    Do any of these Mandleson/Blair/ Umunna etc types really think the public are dumb enough to fall for that obvious rubbish?

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  9. Guest Who says:

    https://bbcwatch.org/2018/09/17/bbc-ecu-publishes-alternativity-complaint-finding/

    A bumper month for bbc wordiness. This one seems apt for bbc opinion vs. reality.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2018/09/whoops.html

    Ian Hislop must be impressed.

    Meanwhile, the bbc daily propaganda email….

    *****

    Brett Kavanaugh ‘sexual assault victim’ speaks out

    The Senate Judiciary Committee is to decide later this week whether President Donald Trump’s selection of Brett Kavanaugh for the US Supreme Court should go to a full vote of the Senate. In the meantime, a woman claiming Mr Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her when they were both teenagers has publicly identified herself. She is Christine Blasey Ford, a professor of psychology at Palo Alto University. Mr Kavanaugh denies the allegations, which first surfaced last week.

    We look at why nominations to the Supreme Court are so important for Americans.

    ****

    When lying fails, go for allusion, quote and claim. American Professors being such beacons of impartiality these days.

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  11. AsISeeIt says:

    Lets slightly rephrase the news –

    PM Theresa May is suggesting a Brext deal where the UK accepts all EU laws as supreme over British laws, complies with EU taxes, tariffs and regulations, where Britain is not allowed to make independent trade deals and where we have to accept unrestrained inward migration, our security and defence will gradually be merged with European forces and Britain would be compelled to make increasing contributions to the EU buget.

    Meanwhile chief EU negotiator Michel Barnier said Britain would need to make more concessions if a deal is ever to be signed off.

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  12. Gammon says:

    Oh my – R4 this morning still pedalling the 35% house price crash (interview Robinson / May) even though clarified as never said or predicted. Beeb could argue recorded before the clarification but should then be edited out. An editing error, mistake or too good a “fake news” line not to to be trotted out given the opportunity.

    Also in Beeb land – they will need to divert more money to stopping the spread of fake news globally. Joke. And why do they feel they need to “compete” with Netflix?? That is not their mandate!!!

    Finally, Clegg(end) makes a joke of himself this morning trying to relaunch himself? Gets tongue tied and starts talking about the challenges to free movement of radioactive materials… what???

    Happy Monday

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    • Kaiser says:

      and there was me thinking house prices being massively over inflated was a bad thing as all our children and grandchildren cant afford to buy houses, now remind me who has been telling me that.

      ohhh yea the B…..

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      • countryblues says:

        BBC Reports ‘in depth’ :

        Houses prices rise : BAD.
        House prices fall : BAD.
        House prices stagnant : BAD.

        Any news is bad news 🙂

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  13. Guest Who says:

    He does like a scrap, I’ll give him that.

    Comments…. ‘mixed’ (to use bbc punctuation for effect).

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  14. JamesArthur says:

    The BBC breakfast and R4 are all over Brexit…but not a single positive and constant references to ‘there is now a growing demand for the people’s vote’…
    As I said to a Remainer last night who didn’t even know the EU was constituted as a State… We had a vote you lost, that’s democracy.. he said yes but people didn’t know what they were voting for…my answer – well there were two simple questions and now you think everyone will understand the complexities of the Chequers deal?
    We all know what the people’s vote will say – 1. we stay in the EU or 2. we stay in the EU

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    • Guest Who says:

      And all over the place too. But this is a good troll.

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      • Guest Who says:

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        • Guest Who says:

          Meanwhile…

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          • JamesArthur says:

            The BBC portrayed a woman described as in poverty..hmm. nice house, nice clothes big flat screen TV on wall, smaller flat screen on side as games console…and apparently 22% (14m) of UK is in poverty..

            I must live in a different world…I only have one TV – I must be really poor

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        • Holly Selassie says:

          Ta GW.
          I too heard this “Institute for Government”, on Radio 4.
          So not having a government is enough anymore-we have to have mediating gobshites on Soros time to tell us what government is.
          Just liberal bubble wrap really aren`t they? Despite that “grand title”.
          Even May-dense and shit though she is-has nothing to learn from this “Institute”.
          Unless it`s a psychiatric one, where the BBC talk to Napoleon Syndrome survivors like Clegg, Major, Cable and Soubry. And that Greenpeace dill, who thinks that he`s “Head Of Oceans”. And no mocking either from the BBC-these are serious times, you see.

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        Why is Brexit taking sooo long?
        Because you Commies are trying to stop it happening.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Recent ex BBC impartial editor and Adonis BFF raises belief. Brave.

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      • Guest Who says:

        The BBC seems to be liking its Monday morning breaking down.

        That lady in the picture…

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          Is it Mandy Rice-Davies?

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        • Holly Selassie says:

          Hold the front page.
          Grasping global institutes would rather not have to work.
          Alphabet Soups like the IMF would rather we let 1000 Colognes happen every day, as long as no woman is left alone in the room with Dominic Strauss Kahn. Unless its Anna Soubry with J. C Drunker-not sure which one would scare me most there.
          The IMF have a grand record on such things, how come Lagarde is still free to hop around the world, and no charges from her days in France are current?
          Looks like Andy Warhole…or David Byrne.

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        • john in cheshire says:

          Is it Christopher Lagarde?

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      • thehoiman says:

        Errrr… because Article 50 stipulates 2 years, and it’s only been 18 months?

        Is this a trick question? Or is it just the bBBC at their disingenuous best, trying to create a false narrative yet again?

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  15. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2018-09-15 Guardian opinion.
    “Russia is mocking us. First the Salisbury attack, then information warfare. Time to wake up” Carole Cadwalladr

    I consulted her Wikipedia article, 49 years old, writes like a ten year old.
    Assertion heavy, outrage prominent, evidence absent, needs to understand that many of us believe that the Gray Lady is a lefty comic, not an authority.

    No wonder the employers of this, so-called journalist, regularly spend time and money, apologising for her inaccurate juvenilia.

    No comments allowed, the editor being fully aware, that a massacre would take place.

    Time for the BBC to give the girl a series of her own. Entitled “Connections by Carole”, in the James Burke mould, start with some objects unnconnected in time or space. Waste zillions holidaying in your favourite spots, get some film. Claim a series of events, of Gleipnirian tenuousness, connect the unconnected.
    Submit your invoice, payment to the Cayman islands.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Blonde though. So a suitable replacement for Katty should CNN need some bbc stardust to five their reputation.

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  16. Dave666 says:

    BBc Breakfast BREXIT reality check. WTF…..

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  17. StewGreen says:

    Links to previous thread, a quiet weekend we started page 3 last night at 5pm
    Page 1 started at 5pm Friday

    LastChanceSaloon asked about the high court ruling that the Electoral Commission gave the wrong advice to Vote Leave
    (Note the £75K fine against Leave.EU is a different thing)

    BBC did report on Sept 14th
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-45519676
    But Brexit Central are emphtatic
    \\ In other words, today’s judgement effectively makes the Electoral Commission’s recent decision about Vote Leave redundant//


    There is a shorter Westmonster report as well
    https://www.westmonster.com/high-court-finds-electoral-commission-got-law-wrong/

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  18. MarkyMark says:

    BBC drop alledged from the titles … he is convicted then?

    Brett Kavanaugh ‘sexual assault victim’ speaks out
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45542415

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    • StewGreen says:

      Hmm I don’t know about on-air
      but the webpage has never had “alleged” in the title
      It’s been thru 8 edit stages
      https://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/1662065/diff/0/1

      Title still is Brett Kavanaugh ‘sexual assault victim’ speaks
      Bottomline : You ARE a victim if some rape actually happened
      If you escape from some drunk gropey bloke, you are not.
      And to avoid prejudicing court cases police and media are supposed to not use “victim” and use “accuser” instead.

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      • Guest Who says:

        The bbc editorial guidelines confer total immunity from accountability by sticking any punt in ‘quotes’.

        But it is ‘unique’ to an extraordinary degree.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @G Perhaps you mean their page : “Modern Slavery Act Statement”
      In fact every large company is now required by law to have such a statement.
      (I told you I was at the lecture last week
      … The gov idea is that instead of doing the POLICING at the BORDER , the policing will be at THE WORKPLACE, with corps required to have such mission statement, compliance officers , and then random privatised inspection teams )
      https://www.shawbrook.co.uk/modern-slavery-act-statement/

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  19. MarkyMark says:

    Dear Anna Soubry,

    Can you tell me why people have to “Suck It Up” regards immigration when your party leaders have said the following:

    1978 … “Every country can take some small minorities and in many ways they add to the richness and variety of this country. The moment the minority threatens to become a big one, people get frightened.” – Margaret Thatcher 1978

    2012 … “Two and a half years ago, the coalition governme nt was formed, and we made a clear promise to the British public. After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.” – Theresa May 2012

    2015 … “Because when immigration is too high (no figure given), when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society…. And we know that for people in low-paid jobs, wages are forced down even further while some people are forced out of work altogether. … So there is no case, in the national interest, for immigration of the scale we have experienced over the last decade.” – Theresa May 2015

    Yours sincerely

    Video of Anna Soubry saying “Suck it up! Suck it up!” “Anna Soubry vs Caroline Flint on the Norway/EEA option.”

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    • Kaiser says:

      SUCK IT UP

      PHRASE INFORMAL
      Open Dictionary

      used for saying that someone has to accept a difficult or unpleasant situation even if they do not want to

      ———————————————————

      nice choice of words from old sozzlebry, encompassing all the benefits of mass migration, and our politicians desire to enact the will of the people

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  20. scribblingscribe says:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/boost-for-may-as-eu-backs-irish-border-plan-fqpf06s62

    “The European Union is secretly preparing to accept a frictionless Irish border after Brexit in a move that raises the prospect of Theresa May striking a deal by the end of the year.”

    Phew. So there isnt a problem with the N Ireland border. I am so glad the BBC can finally relax. All that hysteria from the ‘world’s most trusted broadcaster’ over the Irish border must have kept thousands of North London therapists in business for the last 18 months.

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    • popeye says:

      Why do I think this is all part of the script devised by EU/Merkel on the advice of double-glazing salesmen. Start stupid, settle on the ridiculous

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  21. MarkyMark says:

    2010 … Angela Merkel: German multiculturalism has ‘utterly failed’
    Chancellor’s assertion that onus is on new arrivals to do more to integrate into German society stirs anti-immigration debate

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

    In her speech, Merkel said the education of unemployed Germans should take priority over recruiting workers from abroad, while noting that Germany could not get by without skilled foreign workers.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Skilled foreign workers like these?

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        This disgusting attack on a woman and a child in a car is outrageous. One wishes that this would happen to Merkel or one of her socialist friends, like Maas, who want more of this.
        But, of course, they are well protected. Merkel only ventured into Dresden recently with a ten car escort and sharpshooters on every roof.
        Let the peasants eat cake.

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  22. Terminal Moraine says:

    Indoctrination easy as ABC.

    A) No Burritos for Black Women ¡Ay, caramba!
    B) 150 year old white guilt
    C) Mecca II: Land of a Thousand Shrines

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  23. BRISSLES says:

    Ummmm, much as it really galls me to have to say this, BUT I have to applaud the BBC for standing their ground at refusing to send umpteen cameras, and wall to wall broadcasting of Princess Eugenie’s upcoming wedding. Accordingly the Duke of York and his ‘team’ are now scrambling to get any broadcaster to record the event. Good ! Another outing of the Clooneys/ Beckhams (ugh)/and other ‘close friends’ is enough to make anyone reach for the Bombay !

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Bris
      I disagree the marriage of princess thingy to some rich bloke deserves national coverage by our illustrious State Broadcaster.

      If they can run a live helicopter feed for a singer who is suspected of something for which there is no evidence -the least they can do is walk to wall One /Now show coverage ‘hosted ‘ someone suitably gay and diverse .

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Of course ! the One Show, now WHY didn’t I think of that ?? – June Sarspongy to do the commentary, and Nadya to bake the cake ! (well if she’s good enough for the Queen…….)

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  24. Jeff says:

    Is anyone else following the BBC’s flagship drama series, Bodyguard? It’s fascinating…though that’s not necessarily a compliment.
    I’ve never seen so many ethnic minorities on the box since they scrapped Crime Watch. They’re everywhere.
    The programme started in breathtaking fashion, with a would be Muslim terrorist hiding in a railway loo, about to detonate herself into Allah’s kingdom come. From that point on it’s been more piss taking than breath taking.
    Firstly, the armed response unit seemed to be almost entirely made up of women; quite a number of them a darker hue than the would be terrorist. Since then we’ve been introduced to numerous high ranking security officers, mainly black women and Asian men. It’s got to the point where I’m actually laughing as another unlikely BEM trots onto the screen, ordering whitey about. God’s teeth!
    We had the penultimate episode last night, which is just as well because my blood pressure and temper were reaching boiling point.
    It’s looking suspiciously likely that the Prime Minister has been behind the murder of the Home Secretary and the entire bombing campaign has had nothing to do with the poor innocent Muslims. They’ve been used to camouflage the real culprits.
    It’s all down to horrible rogue elements in the upper echelons of the Conservative Party.
    Blimey, if only they were that clever…

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Breaking News

      Lily Allen is the latest BBC minor star to appear in an episode of ‘The Bodyguard’ as a failing something or other whose career is detonating.

      But she does get her kit off and blow the lead lady. Emily & Co no longer are keen, though Andrew Marr is deep in Frankie Howerd negotiating with one of the girls from production. And his assistant.

      Netflix is panicking.

      Apparently.

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      • thehoiman says:

        Ha! She should have no problems getting a feel for the character, then. Expect to see method acting of the highest calibre!

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      I don’t watch BBC crime dramas because the criminals and terrorists all turn out to be nasty right-wing Mensa members, called Richard Pinder.

      Anyway, an actor is a person who wants to play the opposite of what they are in real life. So that means that all the Black actors must be weak and low IQ morons in real life, while the White actors must be left-wing, dim but nice, in real life.

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    • Foscari says:

      Jeff -Terrific review on Bodyguard. Full of irony, you can’t be
      Jewish! I wish I could write like you. Maybe it has something
      to do with circumcision. Maybe if they have a series two.
      The Islamic lady terrorist from the toilet on the train, becomes
      Prime Minister!

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I would like to hear from real police officers that there are certainly the amount we see of BAME and mixed race personnel in the higher ranks, because in nearly every drama we see on the box, from Murder in Paradise, Midsomer Murders – the later years, Lewis, and countless others, and now the Bodyguard, there is always a detective (or higher) who is of colour. Is this actually true, or purely a diversity pc exercise because its what has to be portrayed?

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  25. Doublethinker says:

    Tomorrow Lord Hall is going to make a speech in which he claims that the BBC is in need of special protection from the competitive threat posed by Netflix, Amazon etc. Now since their multi million dollar deal with Obama I’m no great fan of Netflix but it’s typical of the BBC to seek even more legislation to boost their privileged position. Hell they already get over 4 billion from us under threat of imprisonment. They really are bloated leftists feeding off the British tax payer whilst at the same time forcing their putrid multi culti , open borders agenda down our throats 24/7. Will no one rid us of the steaming pile of shit that is what the BBC has become?

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  26. StewGreen says:

    1pm BBC Humberside Local news included a report from Rosie Carter of Hope Not Hate
    ..and they rejigged their Brexit vox pop , down to 2 anti Brexit voices

    In the 9am prog the Vox Pop was different
    We first heard 4 local accents of different politics saying “Get On With It.
    Voice #5 : Foreign accent ” I don’t understand this Brexit I have been here 14 years, it is a bad step”
    Voice #6 : Foreign accent, poor English “I have seen some of my friends deported , I do not like zis Brexit”
    (The weakling Home Office doesn’t just deport people for nothing)

    That HnH report
    See how they spin a different way to the press


    Seems to be a lot about Islam
    HnH try to spin it as ‘6/10 don’t mind multiculturalism’

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    • StewGreen says:

      The HnH part seems to have been done some time ago
      Part 1 was “from the first 30 visits made between February and September 2017. ”
      And they did 30 panels after that.
      Of course Brendan Cox’s org is a nasty piece of work, so I would not trust anything they produce.

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  27. Beeb Brother says:

    There has been a huge increase in children wanting to change genders; with all the pain and hassle that must entail for so many.

    It is the the media’s fault for framing a primarily biological and psychiatric disorder as a social justice issue. They are so desperate to look virtuous but to actually help you have to have some uncomfortable conversations which might ‘offend’ someone. So they seized upon ‘transgender rights’ as the ideal topic: look virtuous without anyone being offended as it affects such a tiny number of people. You would think half of us question our gender the way they bang on about it yet I still have not met a single such individual.

    Lo and behold they have now created a problem out of nothing. I imagine many kids see it as a chance to get attention and victim status. So like so often the liberals not only fail to solve a problem but create one/make it worse. Being transgender should never have been framed as a social justice issue. It should have gone straight down the memory hole.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Beeb:

      I haven’t been watching this show, but I can guess that a terrorist bombing campaign cannot be allowed to involve muslims, ever.

      In real life, it is simple: terrorists are muslims, 99.9% of the time. Whether they use bombs, guns, knives or vehicles, they are muslims. It is banal and obvious.

      No writer who wants to get commissioned for left wing British TV can afford to write something which reflects reality, however. They can get away with the terrorists appearing to be muslims, so long as it finally turns out to have been a “far right” plot all along, and the muslims are in fact innocent.

      It is as believable as any crass propaganda produced by any sort of corrupt state media anywhere at any time, from Goebbels to Pravda. The BBC must take its place in that illustrious company.

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      • Banania says:

        In the Netflix series “Fauda” all the terrorists are moslems. It is very realistic.

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        • scribblingscribe says:

          Clearly Netflix is full of Hate, is right wing, far right, alt right, Islamaphobic, racist, uneducated, populist, stupid, murder Polish people, anti immigration, are lying tory scum ….

          *coughs* – sorry watched 10 minutes of the BBC yesterday still hasn’t worn off.

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    • Alicia Sinclair says:

      Saw something on the moon landings the other day.
      Where were the blacks…where were the women…where were the BLACK women coming to think of it?
      Can`t be because they couldn`t cut a dress pattern out of aluminium foil could it?
      I could knit with wire wool if asked to, so am retrospectively offended, and traumatised.
      Who do I sue-and , until then; I am saying that no moon landings took place. It was sexist, racist and full of white nerdy men.
      No wonder their dinners were crap, and there were no curtains in the lunar modules.

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  28. MarkyMark says:

    You have to laugh … if it wasn’t so funny …

    Lord Ahmad appointed as PM’s Special Envoy to promote religious freedom
    Lord Ahmad given role as Prime Minister’s Special Envoy on Freedom of Religion or Belief.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lord-ahmad-appointed-as-pms-special-envoy-to-promote-religious-freedom

    The role, which supports the Prime Minister’s commitment to religious tolerance in the UK, will allow Lord Ahmad to demonstrate the country’s commitment to religious freedom by promoting inter-faith respect and dialogue internationally.

    Lord Ahmad, who is also Minister of State for the Commonwealth and the UN at the Foreign & Commonwealth Office, will promote the UK’s firm stance on religious tolerance abroad, helping to tackle religious discrimination in countries where minority faith groups face persecution.

    The PM’s Special Envoy for Freedom of Religion or Belief, Lord Tariq Ahmad of Wimbledon said:

    In too many parts of the world, religious minorities are persecuted, discriminated against and treated as second class citizens. As a man of faith, I feel this very keenly.

    Freedom of Religion or Belief is a human right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It must be respected. People from all faiths or none should be free to practise as they wish. This respect is key to global stability, and is in all our interests.

    I am delighted to have been appointed as the PM’s Special Envoy. I shall use the UK Government’s global network to reach across religious divides, seek the elimination of discrimination on the basis of religion or belief and bring different communities together.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      States a man with no credibility whatsoever because his instruction manual makes lying mandatory.
      He cannot be trusted, ever.
      Neither can the appointing organisation.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Treezer has a soft spot for the Perfect Religion. Or is she just carrying out instructions left to her by the Saudis?

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  29. MarkyMark says:

    Iran and Saudi Arabia: Co-operation on Syria and Yemen – Question (21 May 2018)
    Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon: …. Perhaps I may say a final word to those so-called religionists who feel that by using a noble faith they can exclude religion: you are wrong. For every prophet of every faith, including the Prophet of Islam, women played a central and pivotal role in all decision-making, both internally and externally.

    . . . .

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    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/search/?q=islam&pid=25040

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  30. StewGreen says:

    8:30pm Mrs may is on Panorama
    but there is a strange thing , cos on Sunday BBC News kept quoting a ‘Buzzfeed story has revealed details of Mrs May interview with Panorama’
    WTF Panorama is a BBC prog , why do they have to give the story to Buzzfeed and get it from them ?

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  31. MarkyMark says:

    Seems Ahmed wanted to redefine what is hate and what is not .. if I read this correctly.

    Lord Ahmad: To ask Her Majesty’s Government what criteria must be applied when classifying acts as hate speech or incitement to hatred and violence; and whether they have any plans to redefine those criteria following the recent attacks on the offices of the Charlie Hebdo magazine in Paris.

    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2015-01-23.HL4387.h&s=hebdo+speaker%3A13370#gHL4387.q0

    Lord Ahmad appointed as PM’s Special Envoy to promote religious freedom.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lord-ahmad-appointed-as-pms-special-envoy-to-promote-religious-freedom

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Seems odd that they’d appoint a Muslim to a job which in theory belongs to a member of the state religion – CofE but I suppose it’s a tick box job.

      Declaration – I’m a member of neither said religion nor an unelected space filler in the House of Expenses .

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  32. StewGreen says:

    So R4 does your 2:15pm have any of the usual agendas ?
    \\ Dark comedy about a counsellor and a kebab shop owner.//
    She seems white , he’s called Ali and drinks pints and his wife has gone to Solihull.
    He’s the nice person in the play, the white people are all a bit mad.
    The counsellor befriends the kebab man when she keeps going to the shop to buy kebabs for all her family
    , but he finds out in fact she lives alone and is fatty who scoff ALL the kebabs.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    BBC1 11:30pm : Segregated America: A School in the South, 1.
    Oh what’s that about ?
    Ah new clickbait title

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  34. StewGreen says:

    BBC2 prior to University Challenge, two of the old champs visit the Science sites of the UK
    … OK How will the BBC ruin science this time ?

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  35. Foscari says:

    I really do believe that the BBC is run by a ” BIG BROTHER”
    probably out of the Diversity and Positive Discrimination Dept.
    If you didn’t need any further proof just watch Bodyguard.
    I believe this crime thriller was commissioned by the BBC
    under very strict census conditions. BIG BROTHER being the
    arbiter on what was going to be allowed.
    I watched on Netflix recently Fauda a two series thriller set in
    Israel and the West Bank. Here the Israeli security services
    are portraid as being as vicious as the Palastinian terrorists.
    Infact many people who have watched this great series had
    more empathy for a Palestinian lady doctor than any other
    character. And this was an Israeli production.
    I have written about this before but after five episodes
    of Bodyguard it looks very much that this thriller has nothing
    to do with Islamic Terrorism. For one simple reason the BBC
    would NOT allow it.
    Except for the anti hero male protection officer nearly all the
    main characters are women or ethnic or both. It appears very
    much that the baddies are all white middle aged men’
    Of course there could be a twist in the final episode with us
    finding out that an Osama Bin Laden character is Mr Nasty.
    But I reckon there are one of two hopes for this. Bob Hope
    or No Hope. To be honest I am very much surprised that our
    anti hero was allowed to have a Caucasion wife and two white
    skinned children. How did Big Brother miss this? Hasn’t he seen
    all the adverts on TV over the last couple of years?

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      I don’t watch BBC crime dramas because the criminals and terrorists all turn out to be nasty right-wing Mensa members, called Richard Pinder.

      Anyway, an actor is a person who wants to play the opposite of what they are in real life. So that means that all the Black and female actors must be weak and low IQ morons in real life, while the White male actors must be left-wing, dim but nice, in real life.

      With it being a BBC Drama, its going to turn out that the anti hero male protection officer is in fact a right-wing Russian/Jewish secret agent planted by Putin. His paternal Grandfather is an evil Anglo/Saxon, his paternal Grandmother is a pointy nosed Jew, His maternal Grandfather is a nasty Russian and his maternal Grandmother is White supremacist.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I am starting on ‘Jack Ryan’ on Prime, clearly also panicking that one bbc show in the home country has got a fraction of the Eric and Ernie audience.

      Not bad, but there are glimmers. A bunch of terrorists are stormed in a Paris apartment. As the hapless French swat come upstairs they all look at the sole female when the suicide vest is broken out. She ‘volunteers’. However, when she is the only one left she doesn’t feel in the mood. Unfortunately, fog of war-wise, the guys coming in the back don’t get the memo and much redecorating required.

      Not really buying that when women treated in Israeli hospitals return for outpatients to kill them all.

      However, staying with as it seems promising still, costs half the TVL to watch and as yet has no lesbian love scene for no apparent reason.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    3pm News
    Due to Brexit
    #1 Jelly will no longer set, #2 All milk will go sour
    #3 JLR will go onto a 3 day week due to uncertainty about diesels and Brexit
    The boss has said that government policy on diesels was responsible for the closure last week of a Jaguar plant with 1,000 jobs
    How come I never heard that ?

    Sept 11
    \\ Ralf Speth told a conference in Birmingham, central England, that JLR had lost a thousand jobs as a result of diesel policy “and those numbers will be counted in the tens of thousands if we do not get the right Brexit deal”. //

    airqualitynews.com Sept 12th
    \\ Dr Ralf Speth issued an impassioned defence of diesel cars:
    “The diesel vehicles we produce to EU 6 standards are some of the cleanest cars ever made”.
    Regardless of #airpollution he likes them, he really, really, really likes them.//

    \\ He said: “Public policy sometimes seems to know what it is against, not what it is for.
    The restrictions on diesel make the point.
    “The diesel vehicles we produce to EU 6 standards are some of the cleanest cars ever made.
    They are as clean as petrol and produce 25-30% less CO2.
    Yet, they are demonised.
    “No incentive has been put in place to change from older polluting cars,
    but the disincentive has been placed on the newer, cleaner models through tougher regulations and higher taxation.
    The resulting impacts are as significant as forecast.”//

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      Last week a politician said that after brexit the sky will fall in . They were wrong – there will be no sky – because of Brexit .

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      • thehoiman says:

        No Sky, no BBC *and* no Channel 4.

        Because of Brexit.

        Bliss!


        Damn. Getting carried away, there. 😉

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    • Halifax says:

      The XE XF and XJ have never sold in the numbers of say A4 A6 3 Series etc…..they are well behind the Germans in terms of tech and the all important desirability. Try buying a Audi there are long waiting lists. Jaguar saloon cars are basically undesirable and it’s just an excuse to cut back production nothing at all to do with Brexit.

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  37. StewGreen says:

    Any other agenda pushing on R4 today ?
    9am 2 Climate alarmists Attenborough and Lord Martyn Rees
    “with mankind we are seeing the end of the evolution era
    ..with our effect on the environment being the dominant force”

    10am The Oscar nominated film ‘The Breadwinner’ tells the powerful story of an 11-year-old girl named Parvana growing up under the Taliban in Afghanistan in 2001.
    When her father is wrongfully arrested, Parvana disguises herself as a boy in order to support her family.
    The director, Nora Twomey, joins Jane to discuss working in animation.

    10:45 : Daily drama The Citadel
    This week s set in the Welsh valleys about life before the NHS.
    Doctors striking to support the miners.

    13:45 The evils of High Frequency Trading
    3:30pm Short Story competition entry..bet it’s SJW stuff

    4pm Wow not lefty agenda !
    ** Speaking to artist and critic Alexander Adams, Sohrab hears how identity politics drives artists to only create work about their own lived experience and results in a bland wash of politically correct slogans. **

    8pm Supposed to be a prog about knife crime
    ..but instead it is an an-ethnic afro-British poem “ballad of the Blade”
    Momtaza Mehri, Young People’s Poet Laureate for London, presents a verse-journey into the thoughts and feelings of those for whom knife crime is an everyday reality.
    8:30pm Sexual abuse by the Catholic Church in Chile

    11:30pm repeat : Making History tells us ‘acid attacks have nothing to do with Islam, they come from the Victorians’

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Got to hand it to the far left BBC – they are consistent in pumping out the poison – no wonder their listening figures are falling through the floor – they’re just so bloody obvious too.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Let’s have a look at R4 Extra
        The new series of News Jack drops Nish Kumar
        and uses Angela Barnes as presenter
        Wow : Comedy, Pro Tory, Pro Brexit, ProTrump

        nope it has none of that, just Angela spitting her hate in your face.
        Vile and I didn’t laugh yet.
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/b0bj7yqz

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Another BBC Brexit gimmick
    R1 Brexit Roadtrip.. did they choose a German van ?

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    I don’t suppose the BBC will show anything of the Speech by Joe Biden describing Trump voters as “the dregs of society” – and this is the creature who the Democrats might put up to stand against President Trump in 2020. ….

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  40. Holly Selassie says:

    https://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=189392&sec_id=189392

    Parents evening already.
    Leaving you with this, best article I`ve read this month.
    Thanks to whoever gave us Pat Condell-best thing I`ve heard this month.
    Who needs the BBC? Only Soros, Drunker and the political pigmies.
    Get rid of it, ” by all means necessary”

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  41. StewGreen says:

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      BBC: ‘Wolverhampton rape’
      Presumably he did it in the Midlands

      Seriously, why can’t the BBC just headline that he was charged with rape or of rape of a woman? Why the awkward location qualifier? Come to think of it, why the mention of this person being a fan? Salacious at best and possibly verging on victim blaming.

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  42. taffman says:

    Remember just after the Referendum all the Remainers and Snowflakes were leaving the UK for the continent ?
    Does anyone know if the have gone yet ?

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  43. G.W.F. says:

    https://no2h8crimeawards.org/special-awards-2/

    Some bloody woman who is an MP has won the Jo Cox Award with the No2H8 outfit that is working against hurty hate crime, encouraging people to shop their neighbours..
    It is supported by The Muslim Home Secretary, Sajid Javid (peace be upon him), the Emir of Manchesterstan, Ahmed Andy Burnham, and assorted hate crime haters.

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    • G.W.F. says:

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      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        No2H8, say the people who hate:

        Farage
        BoJo
        Rees Mogg
        Brexit voters
        Trump
        Trump supporters
        Men
        White people
        English people
        (Northern) Irish Unionists
        Jews
        Israel
        Israelis
        Heterosexuals
        Diesel drivers
        ‘Far Right’ people
        Tommy Robinson
        anyone I’ve forgotten?….

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Rolf , Jimmy , stuart – that radio presenter , maybe John peel screwing 15 year olds on the radio 1 roadshow – Gary glitter – dlt – and others … many

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  44. Kaiser says:

    the beeb now reporting on Kavanaugh whilst another man was present

    (no mention of said other man saying its bollox)

    these are despicable times when anyone can be accused of a bit of un-provable groping 36 years ago, in a your word against mine situation where there can be no real comeback against false accusers

    nobody, repeat nobody is safe

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  45. StewGreen says:

    7:30pm Inside Out some SJW stuff as usual
    All areas contain the landfill plastics to fuel item..Doh plastic is basically a type of hydrocarbon anyway (safe to burn at very high temperature plant)

    Northwest area is interestting
    Northwest
    – investigates a rise in domestic abuse against men in the north west and discovers a lack of safe houses available for them.
    – latest idea of making a new ‘greener’ fuel from plastic mined from landfill.
    – the 50th anniversary of the end of legendary steam engines on British Mainlines.

    South edition
    – Two families allow cameras into their homes to reveal the human cost of council budget cuts to respite care provision for children
    – with the Isle of Wight chosen to host UK Pride for the first time, a team from Solent University Film and TV school were behind the scenes with the volunteers working hard to make Island Pride a success.

    I’ll post the rest on BBC facebook

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  46. Guest Who says:

    Jez is out and about again, impartially.

    I have to agree, his reporting is like death.

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  47. Guest Who says:

    The BBC best be careful about comments they like.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2018/09/whoops.html

    Unlike Elon Musk, if taken to task over sloppy, or on purpose ‘reporting’, they may be on the wrong end of more than chump change.

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  48. StewGreen says:

    R5 Facebook

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    • StewGreen says:

      And just a few posts down
      “My hair doesn’t need taming”
      … say black woman who HAS tamed it by braiding it

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      • StewGreen says:

        Ah I see posting the FB URL just gives the video not the discussion
        The first one is headed
        \\ “I didn’t always see someone I could relate to, that would tell me why being black and gay is ok”Singer-songwriter MNEK on what gives him purpose //
        Were I black I think I would patronising that R5 Live is acting like it’s some black welfare organisation.

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      • vlad says:

        The beeb trying to be right-on with da kidz by telling blacks how beautiful their hair is to ’empower’ them bla-bla.
        And not realising you can’t get much more condescending and colonial than that.
        But dahling we simply adooore your lovely ethnic hair…
        (Most black women don’t really like it, by the way. But of course that’s our fault too, racist notions of beauty forced upon them etc. The liberal nonsense never ends.)

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