Tommy Robinson Trial Thread

The BBC will tread carefully with the retrial of Tommpy Robinson on Tuesday – if it goes ahead . The whole MSM will be jumping over each other to     Hate and undermine him and what he says .

Please use this thread for the coverage .

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172 Responses to Tommy Robinson Trial Thread

  1. TrueToo says:

    Justice delayed is justice denied. And the establishment is evidently doing whatever it can to deny Tommy Robinson justice. If the mealy-mouthed, self-righteous, politically-correct cowards currently lording it over the British public had any shame I would suggest they hang their heads in it.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      However if their intention was to silence him, it’s rather backfired. He now has a higher profile than ever.

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      • TrueToo says:

        Roland Deschain, Yes, they live in such a bubble I’m sure they are baffled by the extent and power of the public response to his maltreatment. Then again they have alleged media like the BBC to assure them that all is fine.

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  2. Gammon says:

    For the record. The worst of all of the BBC reporting was the phrase and clear leading opinion “some kind of martyr” – how this slipped by editorial I don’t know.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Gammon, I doubt they have much of an editorial process at the BBC. Seems to me they simply ensure they only employ like-minded useful lefty idiots as political reporters and then give them free rein.

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  3. nogginator says:

    It appears the powers that be, really are pushing the financially
    punitive agenda to affect TR.

    “But tommy has been here before
    He’s seen his room, and he’s walked this floor
    Last time they tried to kill him, but he endured ya
    They need the voice of the growing state
    And they won’t stop who their voters rape
    And it’s not ok, but, this is how they rule ya

    How they rule ya
    How they rule ya”

    … really is a classic, you want some more then?

    “The paedophiles are celebrated
    While Tommy was incarcerated
    but you never seem to care for children, do ya?
    The grooming gangs moved in on you
    And the kids looked up to you for truth
    Please don’t just say
    “Baby, this is how they now, rule ya”

    How they rule ya
    How they rule ya”
    etc

    … inspired

    ps
    As the BBC news highlights this song today,(along with their misleading report) … will they print the lyrics as quickly?
    or is it, a case of, too close for comfort BBC?

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  4. taffman says:

    A quote I cannot find on Al Beeb…………………..
    \\The Establishment Parties Are Betraying The People. “Labour, Liberal or Tory it is clear that if the people want Brexit then they will have to vote UKIP at the next general election” Gerard Batten MEP, UKIP Leader //
    Doesn’t this party support TR ?

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  5. Dave S says:

    It is extraordinary just how afraid the progressive middle class elite is of Tommy. They have no idea of how to counter him and his supporters.
    They just do not understand his appeal is not on an intellectual level at all but because of who he is.
    An ordinary family man who is able to express what millions really feel about their country and how it is being ruined. It is neither left nor right and this is why they get it so wrong.
    What he represents is a very old and can I say it an English thing . it has always been there from centuries back and however hard the elite has tried to destroy it and cynically use it when they wanted to they have never succeeded.
    They say that when England is threatened then the past comes to our aid . That we instinctively know how we are to act and who to trust. Tommy has inspired that loyalty that will not waver and the elites will have to take notice now.
    The crowd made their dislike of the press quite clear and this is a sign that slowly the authorities are losing the battle for hearts and minds .
    We are at a pivotal moment for if the government cynically delivers a brexit that is nothing of the sort and continues to bluster and threaten dire consequences if we leave with no deal while using the forces of the state to silence a man whose patriotism and honesty is admired by millions then anything could happen.
    My concern is that the state like all states under pressure will resort to tyranny rather than attempt to reform itself so as to represent the will of the people of this nation.
    The two things must now happen .The charges against Tommy must be dropped. Brexit must take place and be seen to be a clean break with the EU.
    Any other course will start a process of collision that will imperil us all.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It seems to mirror media bubble conflations between education and intelligence, qualifications and common sense.

      I have been aware of TR for a few years now, and what I have been able to glean free of agenda, edit or downright misrepresentation suggests a person of considerable analytical insight.

      However his delivery is not in a form the establishment prefers to serve up.

      And undoubtedly there are aspects to his early life that are less than stellar. But all surely now atoned for and overshadowed by word and deed since.

      However, unlike Nelson Mandela, it seems unlikely the BBC will forgive, or forget, despite Tommy not by my understanding ever going the bomb route.

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      • honestus says:

        Guest,
        in the eyes of the MSM, he commits the cardinal sin of highlighting the fact that mutli cultures do not rub along together as well as the globalists like to portray and in their eyes he must be punished and vilified for his heresy. The same condescension is visited upon those of us who voted out of the EU. We must be, by virtue of these traits, uneducated, ignorant and ultimately racist. Such constant marginalisation and vitriol will only serve to harden and entrench our (my) attitude until we actually become the two opposing forces that this self serving elite are driving us toward.

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  6. StewGreen says:

    TR calls out the BBC : short video
    “If you told them you work for the BBC ..”
    “You wish to try to portray that I am hated,
    …. when in reality it’s YOU are hated.”

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  7. StewGreen says:

    What it actually says on the stone of the Old Bailey
    TR pointed at it today

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    • montmorency says:

      Stew, it couldn’t be more apt could it? I wonder how any ‘reporter’
      there with the purpose of smearing TR yesterday could have passed under that sign without feeling a deep sense of shame.

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  8. StewGreen says:

    FFS

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  9. Celtic_Mist says:

    This is about freedom of speech and is setting up to become a huge political issue.

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  10. Rick Bradford says:

    They just do not understand his appeal is not on an intellectual level at all

    Actually, I think they do understand that, and that’s what terrifies them.

    Regarding themselves as supremely rational people, they fear and loathe what they see as a brutish low-brow uncontrollable mob, a kind of political football hooliganism, against which they have no defence but the coercive apparatus of state.

    And that’s what we’re seeing used against Robinson.

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  11. tarien says:

    Has China found the solution to the contianment of the rise of Islam? Wonder what the Human Rights club would have to bleet about if Britain took the same route? Mayhem I shouldn’t wonder. It is really none of our business as to what China are doing in their own land and it surpasses all sense to send or engage an investigating jounalist to visit the area where, they are building suposed Muslim containment camps. Why should the BBC pay for such news? You and I didn’t ask the BBC to visit China in this respect, so for petes sake lets keep our noses out of it.

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  12. montmorency says:

    Delingpole was there. Here are his observations

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/10/23/delingpole-tommy-robinson-britains-last-lion-roars/

    Worth following the link to Andrew Lawton’s report of the contemptuous comments he overheard between British ‘journalists’ in court (also helpfully put up here yesterday}. Watching the livestream I couldn’t find evidence of the drunk angry crowd of far-right neo-nazis waving extremist banners. But they must have been there somewhere if the MSM say so – shame they were unable to capture any evidence at all of this on any of many cameras recording the event.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Whoa the police did a raid on Jonaya’s mum’s house yesterday
    …full kicking in the door and everything
    Yet they know that she doesn’t live there, so that seems like full police-state intimidation
    ..then they want Jonaya to come and meet them .

    Now she is the mixed race woman who livestreams Tommy’s rallies
    yet the time they wanted her to come is when Tommy was at court yesterday !
    She reckons that it could have been a clumsy attempt to seize her phone & laptop to make a prosecution about Twitter.
    “I’ve been accused of harassment, how is that possible ?
    then I realised that someone had obsessively commented on my Youtube video and said they had reported me for the video ” ..the video is called .
    Her Twitter name is @SergeantFrisky.
    Since then she has attended the police station 4 times ..each time they say there is no one here who can see you
    They asked for where she will be sleeping tonight, she refused to give it, cos of course they’d raid the house.
    Redpill Phil is with her also with her, so with 2 livestreams going on , they could try to arrest Jonaya and seize her phone, but the whole thing we be seen through Phil’s livestream.
    https://twitter.com/SergeantFrisky/status/1054763358430355456
    https://twitter.com/SergeantFrisky/status/1054851873557999616

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    • john in cheshire says:

      She’s a brave young lady; much braver than I am.
      I think she needs a little more publicity to ensure the police state and its thuggish enforcers back off.

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    • StewGreen says:

      She triggers libmob people
      cos with her black face they presume she on on their anti-Brexit/Trump/Tommy side
      and then when she asks them questions they get angry
      as her vid from the Anti-Brexit march shows

      Then they put out angry warnings

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      “They asked for where she will be sleeping tonight, she refused to give it, cos of course they’d raid the house.”

      She should have given some lefty celebrity’s address.

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  14. G.W.F. says:

    BBC girlies unite to attack Tommy Robinson for blaming Moslems for raping children. It happens in other communities, says the girls. Followed by Corbyn making the same point.
    Turns out that Tommy ( er Yaxley) is the one to blame.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45956864/grooming-allegations-debate-dale-smith-moran-and-rudd

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Lizzie Dearden’s article is behind a paywall
    but it’s on archive here
    I detect her back pedalling ..you see cos only big breaks of contempt law are prosecuted not ones to small audiences (like Lizzies)
    https://archive.fo/rrNct

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      As I write yesterday the judge had to read the TR submission which reminds him that others may be in contempt of court and have not yet been subject to due process – namely dearden and the BBC .

      So rather than dropping some of his bubble friends in the do do he dumped the job on the AG who I think won’t want to put any NUJ bubble journos on trial along side TR -.if it wasn’t so serious and about defenceless young white girls being molested by third world peasant Pakistanis it would be a pop corn job .

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      • StewGreen says:

        As I under the i-newspaper printed paper was sold to Johnstone
        Doesn’t the Independent online still belong to the Russians ?
        Is Dearden a Russian propandist then ?

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Classic : whose real name is
    https://twitter.com/srrohohyes/status/1055016929507848192

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    • StewGreen says:

      Nelson Mandela’s real name was Rolihlahla Mandela.
      This was the name given to him by his parents, Nkosi Mphakanyiswa Gadla Mandela, his father, and his mother Nonqaphi Nosekeni.
      He was born on July 18, 1918. When he started school, his name was changed to a Christian name by the teacher, who called him ‘Nelson.’

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  17. StewGreen says:

    wtf do MSM keep using the HnH template to write hit piece articles
    .. and then not allow comments on them either ?
    * The far-right activist
    * Stephen Yaxley-Lennon
    * The founder of the English Defence League

    \\ The far-right activist Tommy Robinson claimed victory as he left the Old Bailey after his contempt of court case was referred to the attorney-general.

    Hundreds of supporters crowded the street outside the court for a rally, chanting his name until he was ushered on to a temporary stage and introduced as “our hero, our saviour”. (untrue)

    Robinson, 35, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, was jailed for 13 months for knowingly (not true) breaching reporting restrictions in the case of a gang of child sex abusers, largely Britons of Pakistani-Muslim heritage, in a live-streamed video from outside the court.
    The founder of the English Defence League was released on bail in August after the Court of Appeal ruled that the case should be heard by another judge. //
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-ve-won-boasts-tommy-robinson-as-his-case-is-reviewed-xqbm3z9wk

    there was absolute minimum retweeting of both those articles and 2 comments each

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  18. theisland says:

    And listen to Bercow also.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/24/john-bercow-calls-tommy-robinson-repellent-ukip-lords-invite

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    • Oaknash says:

      Bugger off you sanctimonious, bearded, sweaty!

      As for John Bercow referring to Tommy as loathsome, repellent and obnoxious – I am actually speechless, this political cockroach is not fit to lick dog shit off Tommies boots let alone take some sort of moral high ground and critiscise him.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Sky gunning for TR about as well as they and the BBC have Leave.

    If I were to lead with a quote of this nature, making it from the person they have chosen is actually quite funny.

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    • StewGreen says:

      #Projection is a standard libmob MO
      Bercow’s description of course applies to Bercow himself

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    • Fedup2 says:

      TR should stand for Parliament -although it wouldn’t make a difference to a turd like Berkow who promised to leave about 4 months ago ..,

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    • oldcrone says:

      Sly News will be getting even more upset with TR now that he is about to take them to court.

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  20. fakenewswatcher says:

    A perfect self-description from little Bercow, fits him like a glove!

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Dark PR not news from Yorkshire Post
    \\ Former EDL man is ‘loathsome’. Yorkshire Post – 2018-10-25 – POLITICS & ECONOMY -. COMMONS SPEAKER John Bercow has labelled former English Defence League leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, who calls …//
    probably same formulaic model
    and syndicated thru many media
    ..all not allowing open comment

    Yet a Twitter search reveals almost no retweets of such stories
    ..as if people are not interested OR Twitter is rigging searches.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    The Times and certainly rest of MSM hardly talk about Girl X, Y, Z “were treated to a can of coke, a kebab and then gang raped”
    .. but can do their silly stories about TR
    — Tommy Robinson, the far-right activist, was treated to a taxpayer-subsidised three-course meal at the House of Lords within hours of appearing in court accused of contempt —
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tommy-robinson-treated-to-subsidised-meal-at-house-of-lords-09ltw90zl
    It follows the usual formula
    … also comments are not open

    Comment from Twitter
    \\ But you lot were silent
    while he was starved at her majesty’s pleasure?
    Hypocrisy is blinding with you lot. //

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  23. StewGreen says:

    AFAIK TR has announced plans to use for big legal cases to clear his name
    Here’s a list
    I’m guessing The August one against the Times is when Janice Turner falsely called him a wife beater.
    DqViOf2WwAEx4FU.jpg:small
    https://twitter.com/DAYFORFREEDOM4/status/1055414972946268160

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    • StewGreen says:

      I see in point 3 The BBC is not named

      Brian of London argued previously that it’s not worth TR suing for defamation..Why ?
      Cos TR would have to argue that a particular article X did say £50K damage to his reputation
      but the in fact since since the media has for years been defaming TR’s reputation, the defence lawyer would argue that since TR’s reputation is near trash the new article did little new damage.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    Brian of London has a new blogpost about Andrew Gilligan’s smear piece in the Sunday Times
    https://steemit.com/informationwar/@brianoflondon/why-you-can-t-trust-the-m5m-hit-piece-by-andrew-gilligan-in-the-times-about-tommy-robinson

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    • theisland says:

      Stew
      Thanks for this link to BoL’s blog.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Now that Andrew Gilligan smear piece draws on his old interview with ex-Tommy camerawoman Lucy Brown who captured the time when masked antifa tried to beat up Tommy in a McDonald’s carpark and he beat them off.
      But One month before Leeds she was fired by TR cos she’d seemed to have gone rogue.
      After being sacked Lucy Brown gave an Aug 5 interview to Andrew Gilligan. The tone was that TR is making lots of money etc. That was back in the day that articles about TR were allowed to have open comments 156 of them and those comments almost universally call the piece a smear job.

      At the big free speech day in London, she stitched Tommyup by going around his back and inviting TR’s arch enemy Ali Dawah a man who has made threats against Tommy.
      Anyway Lucy got Ali Dawah to the stage and Tommy says no way. Raheem offered a compromise that he would read Dawah’s speech., but Dawah wouldn’t agree. As Dawah and his streetfighter sidekick were led off by police, something kicked off for 90 seconds as 2-3 or 4 men tried to throw punches at him, but the stewards and the rest of the crowd calmed it down, but the papers got the aggression photos they wanted for the next day.
      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tommy-robinson-winds-up-the-bigots-and-the-cash-floods-in-6kffsh8rk

      \\ In the first interview by any insider, Lucy Brown, who worked closely alongside Robinson until three months ago, said:
      “I thought genuinely that I was joining the side that told the truth and I’ve come to realise that it’s not.
      It’s just about getting [YouTube] views and retweets.
      This is a business and your outrage, valid as it is, will be monetised as such.” //
      ..That is outrageous cos LB must know it is about stopping future harm by preventing future terrorism, oppression, grooming gangs etc.

      A key line “We’d be sleeping in the car and eating in service stations.”
      ..So hang on she says the operation makes a lot of money ..yet they sleep in their cars !
      The article also makes it clear that Tommy’s 2 top helpers are in an open gay relationship- … so much for TR being a bigot then !

      The article talks about the guy who funds Rebel Media and quotes Southern Poverty Law Centre’s opinion, yet doesn’t mention that a few weeks prior SPLC had made a multimillion dollar payment to Maajid Nawaz for libelling him.
      Interesting the way the article says TR has a £500K house, and now Times say the same house is a £950K home.
      Interesting that Lucy
      #1 tried to stitch Tommy up
      #2 Didn’t make these accusations before she was fired.

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  25. tarien says:

    What an obnoxious lot they are such, Bercow, McDonald, et al that have aired their views concerning Tommy Robinson. I would consider such tirades as an obvious sign that the establishment (whatever that is) are running scared. Long ago a Policeman friend stated that this nation would be embroiled in a Civil War as a result of years of hiding heads in the sand and of not listening to the worried voice of the people. Let alone the spread of Islam in the UK and Euope it is the evil of political control by a few that have opened the gates of a hatred far greater than could have possibly been realised or contemplated some 40 or so years ago. Savage will be their revenge.

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  26. Guest Who says:

    As the likes of Nick Robinson attempt to make out the likes of Katty, Anthony & Jon are innocents ‘just reporting’ so, over here, a North American reporter shares what ‘just reporting’ UK MSM-styly comprises.

    https://www.therebel.media/tommy_robinson_trial_update_inviting_international_reporters_was_one_of_the_most_important_thing_we_ve_ever_done?

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  27. Fedup2 says:

    The Guardian professional mouth pieces – al beebs Jonathon Friedland writes today that the “ far right” should be “taken on” and not silenced .

    He doesn’t define ‘ far right’ or ‘right ‘ as usual
    And does the normal snowflake sneer about TR and others .
    They go on about stopping politics becoming more agressive but The Guardian and BBC contributes greatly to how things are going …

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  28. oldcrone says:

    Bercow (see above video) about TR

    “a loathsome obnoxious repellent individual ”

    Talking about himself again! This slimy toad has no self awareness !

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  30. StewGreen says:

    It’s interesting that SputnikNews has a Jon Gaunt interview with TR
    and then a later sensible article by Jon Gaunt
    https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201810241069166525-tommy-robinson-supporters/
    .. Yet it is a disgrace, that within that Gaunty article there is a link to a different point of view that uses that Sky lying ambush headline :
    “I Don’t Care if I Incite Fear of Muslims” – Tommy Robinson in Latest Interview
    … an article which has no byline
    .. and that ends in an advert for the pseudo-anti-racists.
    https://sputniknews.com/europe/201809281068420684-Tommy-Robinson-Sky-News/

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  31. Fedup2 says:

    Guardian has “TR to make a million out of US speaking tour “

    Which the G seems to think is bad news but I – for one – think it is good – and I hope he gets far more than that .
    How he chooses to spend it his busnyee but I’m sure some will be used to fund the legal battles he has been forced to engage

    I sincerely hope that TR gets to visit the White House so that Sopel can throw a beeboid wobbler level 1.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      JUst to add to that – I meant ‘ business’

      And the paper where’ comments are free’ doesn’t allow comments – the rubbish who write for the guardian has a bit of a real view about their being on the wrong side of decent public opinion .

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    • StewGreen says:

      Gaunty is one of the first to tweet the Observer story
      The article is of course a cutNpaste from HnH
      BTW the taxpayer owes TR compensation for the Leeds mistrial.
      https://www.twitter.com/jongaunt/status/1056168623411261440

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      • StewGreen says:

        The press acting as a pack , as the Daily Mail also cutNpaste that HnH hit piece
        ..but funnily enough none of the media have covered the story that TR is intent on suing them all for their past libels
        a comment “TR is Not far right… just dead right.”

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  32. theisland says:

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  33. StewGreen says:

    re TR making money
    I just realised who is making money at a Tommy rally
    They’ll usually be 20 reporter/photographers standing around, just waiting for that 1 min of trouble, so that they can get those few photos and write up stories characterising that as the whole day.
    What those 20 collectively earn is much more than those on TR’s side.

    Jut add up the money that Lizzie Drew and other media disinformers will have earnt from covering that 20 minutes of tommy trial the other day.
    When they conspired to downplay crowd numbers.

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  34. StewGreen says:

    Re allegations that the TR operations makes a lot of money, that’s been tried before in Aug 2017
    Ezra makes a convincing explanation that Caolan and his boyfriend were extorting money and threatening to make a big story that Rebel was abusing donations, and that came to a crux when Ezra fired him
    Ezra called in blackmail
    It’s possible that Caolan was quibbling over getting paid and it escalated.
    https://www.therebel.media/blackmail_setting_the_record_straight
    So then somehow Caolan stays with Tommy, and Ezra said they were cooperating for the good of the common cause.
    Then in September Caolan deletes his old tweets and goes solo and then starts working with Lauren Southern.
    There’ no doubt that all involved have put in a lot of effort and aren’t just living in luxury, and donors wouldn’t begrudge them some money even though most money is intended to pay for the legal process.

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  35. StewGreen says:

    I see Joshua Rozenberg, Melanie Phillips husband pronounces about TR on his Radio4 show
    and tweets about TR but covers himself by later deleting the tweets

    \\ @JoshuaRozenberg
    Tommy Robinson (Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon) will now be heard by the Court of Appeal next Wednesday, 18 July. He is challenging his sentence (13 months in all) for contempt of court — not his conviction. Lord Burnett, the Lord Chief Justice, will preside.//

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