770 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 16 January 2019

  1. StewGreen says:

    Guido using the “smear label & dismiss” trick : “far right” “quasi-fascist parties”
    Is Guido projecting ??
    It’s ironic that his moderators remove posts by the untermensch (Nazi term for the under-class)
    https://order-order.com/2019/01/15/ukip-meps-join-national-front-group-european-parliament

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Dellers “Until Britain gets full Brexit, there can never be peace or stability in the realm.”
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/15/theresa-mays-deal-is-toast-so-probably-is-brexit

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I’ve signed it. You beat me to posting the link. Thanks.
      I hope hundreds of thousands sign it.
      But unlike the UN migrant accord, or whatever it’s called, I hope our poor excuse for a government listen to us this time and do as they are told. Get us completely, effectively and cheaply out of the EU by the 29th. March; that’s all these bastards, to use a John Major adjective, have to do.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      K, signed. Thanks for link.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Done now 33K+

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    • Payne by name says:

      They aren’t listening to the referendum, so why will they listen to this?

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  3. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    MA big problem with this second referendum malarkey is that we brexiteers naively think that if we won again, the remoaners would accept the result.
    They will not.
    They might say it has to be 60:40 to be meaningful so 59:41 would be too close.
    They will make up loads of reasons why they can’t accept it.

    Had May simply left 2 years ago they would not have been able to do anything but May, being a remainer, stuffed her cabinet full of remainers and had a civil servant conduct the ‘brexit’ deal behind the backs of the various Brexit deal negotiators.

    If we don’t get our brexit I foresee fire and fury.

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    • Kaiser says:

      EG

      a 59:41 leave win would be to close

      a 49.99:50.01 remain win will be final

      and thats before wondering where vote leave will get money from for endless referendums, whereas remain has an inexhaustible supply

      I reality if there is one and remain win I for one will never believe it wasnt fixed.

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      • honestus says:

        We are in danger of accepting the narrative as dictated by the EU quislings (remainers) and their propaganda mouthpiece the activist BBC.
        The Referendum has been had. Leave won.

        (‘A once in a generation decision. This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide’)

        There will be no second referendum.
        If the anti democrats wish to annul our votes, then let them state this clearly, not hide behind some pseudo double speak suggesting an impartial fairness which another referendum is not.
        It is important that we do not let the BBC and anti democrats frame the narrative.

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  4. Fedup2 says:

    Away from brexit -a bbc beauty – Afria hirch – writes about black killings in The Guardian .

    Whitee is to Blame because of slavery – which disabled the black family culture and has led to Afro Caribbean’s being the biggest tranche of single parents in Blighty .
    Black men are only agressive because of nasty whitee society it seems according to Afria .

    It was interesting in her piece that she never referedto either the police courts or prisons . But that could be explained by her simpleton view of the world which enables blacks to blame others for the killings of their children .

    She referred to the dead 14 year old drug dealer on a stolen moped but left his crimes out …

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    • Dave S says:

      Her attitude is disgraceful as it prevents these dreadful killings being dealt with by society. I wonder what the parents of the dead and maimed children think of her.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      As Miss Hirch despises the UK and white people so much, I do not understand why she continues to live here in the UK in abject, feet stomping, misery.

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  5. StewGreen says:

    R4 You and and Yours just started and went straight into a #ProjectFear item Tesco’s are stockpiling for Brexit

    Next item
    Universal Credit : “It’s not fair I am a single parent with two children struggling to do a medical degree
    .. I have to put in 40 hours a week you know”
    ..FFS talk about “have your cake and eat it”
    You CHOSE to have 2 children and you want the state to pay for it
    ..She gets a £2K hardship grant from the uni ontop of her student loans.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes stew that programme doesn’t do much for personal responsibility and just reflects the snow flake blame someone else culture – so typical of the BBC.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Why does she need a medical degree when there are so many immigrant doctors coming here?

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  6. StewGreen says:

    BBC StopBrexit campaign

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    • Dystopian says:

      Worth a read, thanks SG.

      “the BBC is arguably now behaving like a political grouping or faction in its own right.”

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      • honestus says:

        BBC have been a social activist advocacy for years, normally softly softly. Referendum confirmed the size of their tribe and they crawled out of the shadows and are now, despite their charter, an OFCOM free zone spitting their bias with nonchalance.

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    UK inflation drops to the lowest level in 2 years .
    Won’t hear much of that on the BBC – now the finding of Labour Party election spending breaches announced yesterday.

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    After the bbc pulled away from coverage of PMlies
    Anna Soubry raised a point of order that one of her staff was verbally abused on the way into parliament .
    Reap what you sow – my view .

    I wonder if the police chief for London is using the policing of parliament as a tool for more cash . Which they do not deserve.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Funny that Soubry has remained utterly unconcerned about the abuse and violence her own supporters have visited on her opponents.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Soubry has called for Islamophobia to be classed as racism because it offends against perceived muslimness.

        And they call her a Nazi. But some aspects of muslimness are a tad Nazi
        Photo, theSS at prayer

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  9. Tabs says:

    Taking Arabic calligraphy out of the mosque
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/must_see/46814018/the-young-student-rewriting-the-rules-on-arabic-calligraphy

    According to the BBC, some Muslim “believes the elegance of Arabic calligraphy can inspire people outside of Islam.”

    There was me thinking Calligraphy was from China but no, it’s an Islam thing apparently.

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    • Dystopian says:

      The far left extremist bbc rewriting history.

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    • vesnadog says:

      “According to the BBC, some Muslim “believes the elegance of Arabic calligraphy can inspire people outside of Islam.”

      According to Religious Jews and Christians only the “truth” inspires anyone who sincerely seeks it!

      Qur’an – plagerised from much of the “truth” of the OT/NT Scriptures.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Elegant, like an ISIS flag.
      Or Arabic inscriptions carved on the bodies of Yazidis.
      Really inspiring.

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  10. Celtic_Mist says:

    The bBBC are pushing the idea the Brexit deal problem lies with the British government and it’s inability to reach a consensus. The focus should rather be on the intransigence of the EU which won’t change until and unless we just leave.

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  11. Dystopian says:

    Historian: Queen Should Suspend Parliament to Stop Remain MPs from Blocking Brexit

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/16/historian-queen-suspend-parliament-stop-remain-mps-blocking-brexit/#disqus_thread

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  12. G.W.F. says:

    MPs debate the Leave Now Petition.
    Not many there

    https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/64100b1a-6f58-46b5-a84e-d0b2416896b3

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    • Dystopian says:

      Somewhat diluted by being lumped together with those calling for a second referendum. Clearly two separate issues being labelled as similar.

      Leave now does not equate to having another referendum on what we already decided.

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      • vesnadog says:

        “Leave now does not equate to having another referendum on what we already decided.”

        And if they listen to the “shout it loud enough then perhaps they will agree with you” SNP Blackford and his SNP cohorts they still won’t get it!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      GWF
      I wondered whether taking part in their petition would just encourage politician to believe they really consult or are in touch with voters .

      Having seen what they’ve done I think I’m done with their petitions.

      The idiots keep talking about’ healing divisions ‘ they and their state broadcaster have caused by using political correctness over decades to crush contrary comments – particularly about the country being taken over by the third world , it wives and offspring .

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  13. Tabs says:

    Did Corbyn make an idiot of himself at PMQs today? I cannot find a link to watch it anywhere on BBC News website so I assume the BBC have buried it deep.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    As only the BBC, and she can….

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I couldn’t resist thinking this:
      Little scatty ratty Katty
      For blocking Brexit, went into bat-y
      But she’ll only confirm she’s just a prat-y
      Poor old ratty Katty.
      It’s not very good, I’m the first to admit but it dissipated some of the anger people like her generate in me.

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  15. Thoughtful says:

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    • vlad says:

      So is that the 59th day of the 16th month in 200019?

      Sterling, metric or imperial?

      CE, BCE, AD or BC?

      Obviously I haven’t got my calculator on me so I can’t be entirely precise.

      You’re all racists anyway.

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      • The General says:

        ” No I mis spoke, what I really err what I really err meant to say …was was err was….what was the question again ?”

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  16. gaxvil says:

    Southern Ireland again warning that Brexit could bring about a return of conflict ie: bombs, shooting, beatings with the deaths of many innocents so let’s not have any comments about uncivilized, brainless Irish people please.

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  17. Rob in Cheshire says:

    I have found a foolproof way to get on any BBC Brexit phone in.

    All you have to do is say that you voted for Brexit, but now realise that you fell for a lie on the side of a bus, and now you want a “People’s Vote” so that you can change your mind and vote Remain.

    In reality, are there any such people? I don’t know, but at least two who claimed they were in this vanishingly small subset managed to get on Five Dead in the time I was listening yesterday.

    Try it folks, believe me, it works!

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    • gaxvil says:

      Listened to a couple of minutes of yesterdays bbc World Service phone in. Misinformed tripe from Remainers and good points from Leavers.
      Like the fact that we have 3.5m migrants but there are only 1.5m Brit living in the whole of Europe.
      Illustrated that the propaganda does hit the mark with some.
      eg: No Brit will be able to work in Europe post Brexit and we are a mongrel race so need many more migrants.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Before the referendum we sent the EU £350 MILLION a week. Mrs Mays deal would have cost us £39 BILLION plus extra, for permanent VASSALAGE. That would have cost us £615 MILLION per week for a fake Brexit. A 75% increase in payments to the EU for vassalage status.
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  18. Kaiser says:

    EU letter box height standards. who knew there was such a thing

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46895002

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Doh! Did that regulation prevent the Government’s EU Referendum information booklet reaching the homes of Remainers?

      Or did it just prevent the Remainers understanding the facts about the EU, and the UK voting to Remain in or Leave the EU on 23rd June 2016, and think they were being lied to?

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    • JimS says:

      Typical BBC web story with hardly any relevant facts, such as ‘what is a EU standard letterbox’.

      BS EN13724 key features… if anyone is ‘bovered’, innit.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Maybe Boris Johnson should advise the Muslims to wear high heels then.

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  19. G says:

    “Trump as the Kremlin’s Tool: The Logical Proof
    Whether intentional or not, Donald Trump serves the Kremlin’s interests — from NATO to the global economy and the Middle East to democracy.”
    https://www.theglobalist.com/trump-russia-agent-proof-nato/
    Amazing. In the absence of any facts or proof, this Globalist mouthpiece seeks to perpetuate the illusion.
    “As Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s involvement in the 2016 U.S. Presidential campaign starts to wind down, recent revelations in the New York Times and Washington Post raise the possibility that President Donald Trump was working as an agent of the Russian government.” Note, Mueller is, winding down. Not, ‘there is no evidence’.
    Check out also,
    https://www.theglobalist.com/donald-trump-russia-sleeper-agent-putin-nato/
    “The man who is making a hash of virtually anything he touches….”
    I ask myself, is this the Billionare Trump they refer to?

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      G
      More Trump please USA.
      Lots more Trump.
      Build the Wall, lock her up.
      Yes, I know it’s puerile, I just do it in the hope that is causes cardiac arrest in Democrats, Beeboids and other deplorables.

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    • StewGreen says:

      OK Instagram vids dont embed here.
      It was Adam Boulton holding up Brendan O’Neill’s Sun article and calling it “bonkers” cos said MP voting for May’s Deal were betraying the Brexit voters “bonkers, May’s deal is Brexit isn’t it”
      the female MP agreed with BO’ but Boulton cut her off.
      Hundreds of Tweets call Boulton a superbiased Remainer.

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      • vesnadog says:

        I can’t help thinking that this Islington resident looks like he always wants to be some where else. How he got the job he does amazes me. He talks and looks as if he’s being scratched up the back by a ferret!

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  20. vlad says:

    The EU has already won, or at least made their point to any other vassal state with the temerity to consider exiting.
    “See the pain and chaos Brexit caused the UK? Do you really want to inflict that on yourselves for years to come?”

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    • honestus says:

      V, can see your point and this is the result after two and half years, but this was not the EU’s doing. This was self inflicted by fifth columnists born and bred in UK. Another time would see such citizens causing so much harm to their own countries interests labled traitors and treated accordingly.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Bdendan O’Neill again

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    • Dave S says:

      It is that simple . Us versus them now. Not a good state for this country of ours to be in. The elite was warned but would not back off and soon it will have to come to a confrontation. In what form this will take I have no idea but I hope it will be peaceful .
      An old and ancient nation does not just fold and give up it’s way of life and it’s history . We never have done so.
      The seeds of real conflict are being sown.

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      • vesnadog says:

        Dave.

        “It is that simple . Us versus them now”

        I agree. Isn’t it strange that all the BBC outside broadcasts show the TV viewer nothing but scenes from London/southern residents waving their beloved EURO FLAGS? Why is it we northern viewers never see Remain voters doing the same thing in places like Bolton or Manchester – why not?

        Could it be that there are very few remainers up north or are they too scared of showing their faces to their neighbours? We won’t harm you you know. We love the whole of GB not just parts of Scotland/London.

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  22. gaxvil says:

    And so Farage predicts a second Referendum.
    Maybe next time well get a 51% leave 49% remain split.
    Then what?
    It could run and run.

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  23. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Imagine in 1939 the BBC demanding we accept Herr Hitler’s deal.
    Imagine Swastika flags outside Parliament.
    Imagine some prick in SS uniform in the background of every news interview.
    Imagine the SNP communicating directly with the German Nazi party…………(oh wait……..)

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      EG ?
      May should be top of the list to be de-selected.
      Not the person to whom the supplicants address their petition.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    London crime : again perp and victim seem foreign
    .. and Met Police screw up again
    https://www.twitter.com/MikelAllen9/status/1085057793277726720

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      SG – Gene pool improved.
      Sorry but the Met. was busy protecting MPs.
      Perhaps the solution is do not associate with black thugs.

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    • vesnadog says:

      “The police fail again”

      Agree. But we don’t want to upset the London green MP/Liberarchy MPs now do we!?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      You have to ask the question as to why these stupid girls get involved with men like this, unless of course its the money involved with drug dealing, and then what does that make them ?

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  25. StewGreen says:

    UK media are in their ffing circus on College Green
    … meanwhile France is on fire and they hardly even mention it, keeping up the lie that the EU is peace and paradise.

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      It seems all the worlds media are camped there, in their temporary tarpaulin covered shacks. Its more like the Calais jungle every day, lets hope some illegals move in.
      It looks bloody awful.

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    • StewGreen says:

      rMSM say “nothing to see in Greece”

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    • Synchronised says:

      Funny you mention that SG as my father phoned me this morning to tell me he was listening to local radio. Ex pat living in France phoned in to say that all they are talking about on the radio stations is the mess that they are in and Brexit is rarely mentioned. It would seem that things across the water are worse than our beeb is letting on.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Ozzie exPM

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    • vesnadog says:

      “What’s wrong with no deal?”

      Tis easy, you are Australian and most of our MPs are cowards!

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  27. StewGreen says:

    DV about BBC

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    • Dystopian says:

      I’m just watching the “France 24” news channel and that’s what they are advocating too.
      These people are even more conceited than the bbbc reporters if that was ever possible.

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Not true to say Owen Jones worked for Kremlin but Kremlin did make use of him and other famous lefties by pretending to be grassroots filmmakers making films about the Tory decline of Britain
    \\ Steve Hedley, senior assistant general secretary of the RMT union, co-operated with a Redfish film about the rise of the far right, blaming politicians for helping to create the problem//

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  29. Sluff says:

    Do you laugh or do you cry?
    You know how the Remoaners want to allow young people (aged about 10) to be able to vote in a referendum (‘because it is their future’).
    On BBC Pointless there was a question – ‘name a EU country without a U or K’

    Answers from young contestants included Norway (wrong), Moldova (wrong) and Italy ( one of the highest scores).

    Yep, these are the people Jezza and the Libdems want to be able to vote.
    Pass the razor blades!

    PS just to make sure the bBBC were hitting the right PC buttons, the answers to the next question about (naturally) women ( imagine a round exclusively about men) included Maggie (which of course provoked a dig) as compared with Mary Seacole (cue a description of ‘remarkable woman’ or similar).
    Tick. Tick.

    PPS thankfully Maggie scored 71, seacole 11. Clearly the bBBC have not quite yet totally succeeded in their brainwashing.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    AfD considers Dexit if EU fails to reform

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    • gaxvil says:

      Well yes, as said there’s the AFD, the new Italian Government, Poland and Hungry, Southern Spain’s ‘populists’ toppling the Socialists and France, well there’s France.
      And they’d have us believe that the German led EU superstate is the way to go?

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  31. Guest Who says:

    The BBC asks a question. Maybe… it’s because it’s what they would have wanted?

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  32. G.W.F. says:

    BBC with important news concerning a doctor’s receptionist who dealt with a very bad Scottish waaaycist who did not want to be treated by an Asian doctor.

    Patient “I don’t want an Asian doctor”
    Receptionist “she is Scottish”
    Patient “she doesn’t look Scottish.”
    Receptionist “what do Scottish people look like?”
    Silence. Appointment card taken. So proud of my team

    Wow, that learnt the patient.
    Pulitzer Prize to be awarded to this would be BBC journo.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-46894843

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      I remember ‘Till Death Do Us Part’ many years ago, when Alf Garnett didn’t want an African doctor treating his wife. The nurse told him “he’s not African – he was born in Manchester”
      To which Alf said “Manchester??? Manchester??? – must have been a bleeding hot day then”.
      The doctor turned out to be excellent doctor.

      But this is how we used to be able to make jokes about truly racist views and use humour to present it. Clearly those working today at the BBC never understood it.

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    • Kaiser says:

      I thought the scots loved immigrants and just hated the english

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    • honestus says:

      GWF,
      Receptionist “what do Scottish people look like?”

      According to Disnea, red hair, kilt, massive toothpick and large red beard (male) small red beard (female)

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  33. vesnadog says:

    Bound for the House of Lords very soon. Such a brave woman.

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  34. StewGreen says:

    Four US soldiers killed by ‘Isis’ suicide bomber in Manbij

    A suicide attack claimed by Islamic State killed four US soldiers in a northern Syrian town today.

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  35. StewGreen says:

    The Times use this image of beautiful female Pro No-Deal protesters.
    Not seen such on BBC

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  36. countryblues says:

    BBC News last night :

    Two very happy and smug Remainer MPs interviewed after a ‘crushing’ defeat of ‘The Deal’ agreed that the only way to solve the impasse now was to hold a ‘People’s Vote’… the question?

    (A) Accept the Deal.
    (B) Remain.

    D’OH…great, we can choose ‘The Deal’ that they themselves cheerfully find unacceptable… 🙁 🙁 🙁

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  37. Foscari says:

    Does anybody know if Tunde Ogunbesan head of the Diversity Dept
    at the BBC and his team , have anything to do with the new Gillette
    advert?

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  38. StewGreen says:

    \\ Boy admits ‘appalling’ attack that left former ambassador Sir Christopher Meyer covered in blood last July at Victoria Station //
    He’s 17 so his name and photo are secret even though he’s be found guilty .. sentencing to come

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  39. StewGreen says:

    New Zealand deports hooligan family
    Times claims they are not gypsies

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Stew:

      Agreed, as soon as I heard their voices there was no doubt they were Irish tinkers, doing exactly what they always do everywhere they go.

      Fair play to New Zealand for deporting them, in Britain we would never have the nerve. They have human rights after all.

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  40. StewGreen says:

    Libby Purves : Virtue-signalling bullies are at home in the charity sector
    ..ends “Observe how uncharitable religious sects become when pointing out the deficiencies of rivals, or indeed their own staff. Older readers might remember the plaintive cry of Derek Nimmo’s curate Noote in All Gas and Gaiters “Oh b-b-bishop, how unkind!”. Some bishops are.

    Perhaps that’s why the most inconsiderate producer I ever had at the BBC (another holy institution where bullies flourish among the pious mission statements) was in the religion department.
    Note the well-worn saying in journalism:
    “Never work for a liberal paper; they’ll sack you just before Christmas.”

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  41. Dystopian says:

    This Dahlia Gebrial Editor of Novara Media talking on France 24 news channel is full of ****!

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  42. Fedup2 says:

    BBC Parliament channel showing the vote of confidence debate.

    It ever there was a symbol of how far the political system is out of step with voters – this must be it . All that wasted effort and air . A ritual .
    They all know that the government will win it . Whether the men in grey suits come for Mrs May – who knows ( yes I know the previous vote of confidence gives her 12 months ).

    At least at the end Gove had a ‘despite brexit – poke at the BBC – to which he got a cheer…

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    • honestus says:

      Fed,
      used to derive much comfort out of such ancient rituals such as knocking on door with mace, dragging speaker to chair etc as they conferred sense of history and stability and continuation. Now see them for what they are – self indulgent play acting by kidults who consider themselves our superiors and betters who live life high on the hog using our tax pennies.

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  43. Dystopian says:

    Michael Gove in HOC “and all of this, in the words of the bbc, despite brexit” haha class!

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  44. Peter Sausages says:

    Great speech by Gove, destroying Wurzel Cor yn, and a great dig to the BBC

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  45. Fedup2 says:

    The bbc politics show put the biased coburg in change and put an Asian female “ prospective labour councillor “ on to talk about the proceedings tonight . Nice tick box work .

    Best to just watch the parly channel to avoid the added bias from the state broadcaster .

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  46. Fedup2 says:

    19 majority for May .

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    • boohanna says:

      Is the a greater than 4% difference compared to the against camp?

      If not, I demand another vote.

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  47. Dystopian says:

    I’m watching it on RT now. Nice to see an interviewer challenging the views of their interviewee!

    Btw ayes 306 noes 325 government wins

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