Weekend Open Thread 30 March 2019

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Whither Brexit ? Over to you

( and let’s spare a thought for the insanely anti President Trump BBC correspondents )…

 

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  1. Dover Sentry says:
    March 31, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    BBC Online News:

    “”Brexit: Will flights be disrupted?””

    “”Sinead Conroy, an aviation consultant and former Ryanair manager, said it was “highly unlikely” passengers would see disruption straight after a no-deal Brexit.””

    “”Aircraft are not going to get stranded, passengers are not going to get stranded,” she said, adding that mass cancellations were not expected.””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47225806

    For years, the BBC have pushed that Brexit will cause aircraft to fall out of the sky etc.
    But the BBC in true gangster style, never admits a lie.

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  2. vesnadog says:
    March 31, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    Not BBC.

    But look at this dozzoo of a story. I’m not surprised that good ol BBC never covered it:

    Julia Long said the response was a “disgrace”.

    “We were just sitting there having a quiet chat at an open event and were asked to leave with no-one able to tell us what we’d actually done wrong.”

    “Almost every meeting women have tried to hold over the past year to discuss the impact on their rights of transgender demands has been met with protest and disturbance with police offering little to no assistance to ensure women’s safety.”

    “And yet within half an hour of receiving a complaint about a trans event seven police officers were dispatched because the presence of four women was considered a threat.”

    https://www.christian.org.uk/news/women-removed-from-inclusive-trans-event-for-making-speakers-feel-uncomfortable/?e290319

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  3. Richard Pinder says:
    March 31, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    With the BBC its mostly ignorance due to censorship and keeping scientists and governance experts off the telly and replacing them with environmental activists with second class Arts and Drama degrees, telling the viewers what they think scientists and governance experts fear about polar bears and the Eurovision Song Contest coming to an end.

    I suppose its only time before these left-wing liberal fascist morons close down Google Scholar and burn down University Libraries, to create safe spaces for students, because of these type of politically incorrect papers.

    (1) Donald Trump says that man-made Climate Change is a “Hoax” or as scientists say “False“

    Click to access 0707.1161.pdf

    (2) Why its best to leave the EU and become a richer and more democratic nation.

    Click to access whatitwilllooklike.pdf

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  4. john in cheshire says:
    March 31, 2019 at 7:19 pm

    Has anyone else seen this video today by Jeff Taylor? It’s only about 5 minutes long but he says that someone has started proceedings against the government, asserting that it was illegal for them change the EU exit date without a statutory instrument.

    If there is any credence to this, we could have already exited the EU:

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    • Lefty Wright says:
      March 31, 2019 at 7:35 pm

      John
      This is a great idea but I can’t believe that the case will stand any chance of a fair and unbiased hearing. Thus I feel it is doomed to fail. However, it must be worth a try.

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    • Up2snuff says:
      March 31, 2019 at 7:42 pm

      j-i-c, think that is incorrect. The judgement in Miller& others was that Parliament had to have a final say. That is not just on the filing of Article 50 but on the final deal. I think the Tillbrook application will fall on those grounds.

      I could be wrong.

      I will be delighted to be proved wrong!

      I think there is a case to be made that Parliament had its say on the Withdrawal Agreement on 15 January 2019 and that any subsequent votes in Parliament are invalid under the Supreme Court ruling re Miller & others (2017). Hopefully a good lawyer will take that up and test it.

      Meanwhile, Martin Howe has a new piece up on Lawyers for Britain. https://lawyersforbritain.org/why-brexiteers-right-to-reject-theresa-mays-deal

      It is a lengthy read but an important one.

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      • Fedup2 says:
        March 31, 2019 at 7:58 pm

        There’s probably some made up ‘Order in Council ‘ or Prerogative Order to make it ‘legal’ …. and that over inflated AG will do his Dennis Healy tribute act again…

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  5. Despairada says:
    March 31, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    The power of words

    Soft Brexit must be so much nicer, and therefore better than Hard Brexit must it not?

    Alternatives:

    Soft Brexit vs Hard Brexit

    Cowardly Brexit vs Brave Brexit

    Indecisive Brexit vs Decisive Brexit

    Muddy Brexit vs Clean Brexit

    Any more?

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  6. Guest Who says:
    March 31, 2019 at 7:38 pm

    Ali and Katya are as one.

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  7. gaxvil says:
    March 31, 2019 at 7:43 pm

    All quite hard to believe.
    I never imagined, when we won the vote, that so many would spend so much of their lives doing their utmost to complicate a simple act thereby confusing and terrifying the populous.
    But there it is and as they discuss exiting the EU or bits of it or not leaving at all, I am ashamed of my country and a significant number of of it’s people.

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    • Up2snuff says:
      March 31, 2019 at 7:52 pm

      gaxvil, I am forced to conclude it is a form of possession, bordering on the Satanic. Either that or being willing to be oppressed by a spirit of fear and then to deliberately oppress others in the same way.

      The first message of Easter nearly 2000 years ago was “Fear not!”

      That point marked the availability to the whole world of the liberation from the law of sin and death. “Do not be afraid!” Ever since people have been discovering a personal liberation from that which kept them bound up as prisoners.

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  8. vlad says:
    March 31, 2019 at 7:47 pm

    Home sec Javid announces new stop and search powers.

    How long before the beeb have lib-left guests on their news shows to bleat about the move being racist?

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  9. G.W.F. says:
    March 31, 2019 at 7:49 pm

    There’s talk of an election and some Tories fear they will lose.
    Good. Let’s have an election, and pray that Treezer is the leader.

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    • Up2snuff says:
      March 31, 2019 at 8:00 pm

      GWF, I think all would lose. The Tories will lose many Remainer MPs. Corbyn & McDonnell will have to resign after Labour are decimated. Labour cannot escape the Remain label now. (It will be interesting to see if and how the BBC try to rescue them!) Some of the Change Party may well lose their seats so their new leader, Heidi Allen, will probably have to go. If Labour and the Conservatives do well again in Scotland that might be the end of Sturgeon. I don’t think she could take another heavy loss. Cable is going anyway from LibDems, so any interim leader might not fare too well. The Greens might fare well.

      The problem will be for UKIP and the new Brexit Party. Will they split the anti-EU vote? They could hold the balance of power with the DUP if UKIP and Brexit Party both get half a dozen seats.

      Could be an interesting Parliament. Government formed from the rump of Remain Conservatives + Brexit Conservatives + DUP + UKIP + Brexit Party.

      Italian style government.

      I’d rather not go there.

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      • Fedup2 says:
        March 31, 2019 at 8:13 pm

        Up2 – I disagree with that point – I’d want to see the whole lot lose – except for the very small number ( now ) who have stuck to the leave guns . The rest can rot . I’d just hope ( on a small point ) that they’d kick Bercow out and down and no gong ….

        As a right winger I favour small governments which can’t do much to screw the lives of individuals they really don’t care a damn about unless there is a career advantage .

        If the conservatives cannot read the mood in the country outside their bubble they don’t deserve to survive ….

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        • Up2snuff says:
          March 31, 2019 at 8:57 pm

          Fed, it would be great to think that all voters who favour democracy over all the other options would vote out all of the 400+ Remainer MPs but I think we have to accept that will not happen.

          I, too, favour small government and would like to see a truly small ‘c’ Conservative Party rise from the ashes; less social liberalism, more social liberation along with a healthy dose of grown up responsibility on both part of government and people. Suspect I’m rather more of a centrist than your good self but many then would paint me as a bit of socialist.

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          • Fedup2 says:
            March 31, 2019 at 9:05 pm

            Up2
            I suppose the biggest unknown is the level of ‘abstention ‘ as people just say ‘why bother ?’

            I don’t think any polling outfit could be accurate on that ….

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  10. StewGreen says:
    March 31, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    Countryfile : item about pig farming family
    Father voted Remain
    3 Daughters voted Leave , but now have doubts
    Their pigs are sold in UK
    – Worried about imports of American pigs
    ..claimed these are unhygienic
    – Worried about not being able to sell their breeding sow meat to Gemany .
    Remainers on Twitter shout BBC bias cos a Leave family were allowed on at all.

    #RemainSupremacists is a real thing

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    • Fedup2 says:
      March 31, 2019 at 9:16 pm

      Stew
      I take it there was no mention of the continued use of antibiotics on chickens …. not as colourful as ‘clorinated chicken ‘ but probably far worse for humankind ….. 250 tonnes of the stuff used last year if I heard the news right ….

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      • StewGreen says:
        March 31, 2019 at 9:31 pm

        @FedUp “I take it there was no mention of the continued use of antibiotics on chickens ”
        No yiu are wrong
        The reason why that news exists today is cos there was a “Countryfile investigaton”, so it was a focus of today’s programme.
        ..probably meaning that an NGO did the press release and BBC Countryfile are basically just cutNpasting
        .. The detail is that the government made regulations saying the industry must cut down on “antibiotics that humans use”
        .. The industry did that, but other products with anti-biotic properties remained unregulated so that’s why the industry switched to using ionophores
        Note that we humans use tumeric and honey, with antibiotic properties but don’t class them as antibiotics.

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        • Richard Pinder says:
          April 1, 2019 at 1:53 am

          I wish to report about an ongoing Countryfile investigation into evil Market Gardeners poisoning plants by pumping carbon dioxide gas into Greenhouses so as to warm up the Greenhouse with Greenhouse Gases, therefore killing tomato plants by poisoning and frying them inside the Greenhouse.

          This was my first attempt at an April fools joke, but the BBC’s left-wing morons and schoolchildren reading it, could not possibly believe that the above was a joke.

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    • StewGreen says:
      March 31, 2019 at 9:22 pm

      Example of #remainSupremacists commenting on Countryfile
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  11. Fedup2 says:
    March 31, 2019 at 9:06 pm

    New Thread Up …..

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  12. Richard Pinder says:
    April 1, 2019 at 1:38 am

    Due to the Monmouthshire, Berwick, Pimlico and Kingston upon Hull Act of 1746. Monmouthshire in Wales, Berwick-upon-Tweed, Pimlico in London and Hull in Yorkshire have accidentally left the European Union on Friday due to an error by the idiots in the Civil Service leaving out this Act of Parliament from the Article 50 extension documents. Screams of great happiness have been heard near Hull.

    I can confirmation that this is NOT Fake News because its April the first.

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