631 Responses to Midweek Thread Wednesday 29 May 2019

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  1. Peter Grimes says:
    May 31, 2019 at 2:08 pm

    This seems to confirm the skimpy facts known to date –

    https://independencedaily.co.uk/a-german-brexit-a-scandal-of-subversive-statecraft/

    We’ve been sold down the river and Donald-ducked most royally!

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    • theisland says:
      May 31, 2019 at 3:12 pm

      PG
      Thanks for this link.

      There is no doubt in my mind what the truth is, particularly in relation to ceding our defence and fishing grounds (two crucial issues ignored by the media).

      And add to this the so-called ‘Irish border problem’

      https://twitter.com/ViscountBraith1/status/1134359460095414272

      With a few exceptions our political class are lazy, stupid and/or (most seriously) compliant/co-conspirators.

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      • cromwell says:
        May 31, 2019 at 4:49 pm

        Could someone with better it skills than me send this recording to The Brexit Party. It could be very useful in their campaign in Peterborough thanks

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:
      May 31, 2019 at 3:18 pm

      PG,
      Well if that’s true. Trial for treason it is then.

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  2. s.trubble says:
    May 31, 2019 at 2:51 pm

    Thank-you for posting Mr Grimes………..very interesting!
    We can only wonder what the bBC’s Katya Adler and the cheery fellow Adam Fleming?…the Brussels reporter chap would know about this. Nothing most likely as they are mere disc jockeys.

    Certainly the “constructive ambiguity” of the Political declaration and the Gobbledook would support the proposition that the hand what wrote it was far from pukkah! In fact, it bears the hallmarks of
    a rush job…possibly over an Erdinger and Bratwurst mit Sauerkraut.
    And within earshot of Olly…who might have been disguised as a tree standing in the corner of the bar.

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  3. Lucy Pevensey says:
    May 31, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    So Elton John ((HIS NAME IS REG DWIGHT!!!)) has had a self-loathing moan in Verona.
    I guess he doesn’t realise how many Italians hate the EU as much us idiot colonial Breixiteers.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/elton-john-brexit-european-english-rocketman-farewell-tour-verona-italy-a8937736.html

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    • Helen Richardson says:
      May 31, 2019 at 5:10 pm

      Well some of those “colonial English idiots” must have contributed to the considerable wealth of a passable pianist who sings with a strained, whiny, fake American accent. And why is anyone who has received formal music lessons invariably described as “classically trained”? As fare as I’m aware, he only attended the Royal Academy of Music’s Junior Academy once a week.

      I’m not sure where “colonialism” comes in. But then any old insult will do. Oscar Wilde he isn’t (well, in some ways …).

      Not a fan, as you might have gathered. Still getting over a miserable evening at The Lion King.

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  4. StewGreen says:
    May 31, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    BBC More or Less : Live from BBC Bubbleworld Goes to Hay
    In explaining the Dunning Kruger Effect
    they admit they put a giant pic of Donald Trump on the wall

    … Projection is libmob characteristic

    Oh now they’ve just done a joke about the Daily Mail

    Oh to do a Nigel Farage impression the producer Ruth is heard opening a can of beer.

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  5. TrueToo says:
    May 31, 2019 at 4:59 pm

    Last night’s Question Time was dire. I can’t watch that verbose, pompous ass Barry Gardiner. In fact, I haven’t been able to watch him since he showered devotion and affection on Jeremy Corbyn during a Dimbleby QT while defending him against allegations of anti-Semitism. He was so devout and affectionate that even that duplicitous snake Corbyn might have been embarrassed by the display had he been there to witness it.

    Then there was the LIbDem woman, reveling in the idea of standing for the leadership of a party that does not know the meaning of its own name.

    And Uriah Heep will happily deny the 2016 referendum if that’s what it will take to keep his precious party in power.

    I quite liked the American psychology guy, though he also doesn’t understand democracy. I’ve always found it interesting that the educated intelligentsia are so often the dumbest people around.

    I would have thrown a brick through the screen if not for The Brexit Party lady – the only sane voice on the panel.

    Seems to me that the time is ripe for a new general election. But I guess that if the results of the local and EU elections have not obliged the Tories to seek a mandate from the people to continue to govern, nothing will.

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    • Kaiser says:
      May 31, 2019 at 6:23 pm

      The BP lady seems knew to that kind of malarky , when harassed by Creepy Barry about whether Norway or Turkey were in the EU , she should have just asked him whether he had read Camorons glossy £9m leaflet

      Im sure she will get better , cos she is going to be attacked a lot

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      • TrueToo says:
        May 31, 2019 at 6:41 pm

        Kaiser,

        Yes I noticed she was a bit taken aback by Gardiner – that self-righteous little ideologue who thinks he is so wonderful.

        And yes, I think she will improve.

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  6. StewGreen says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    4:55pm Radio4, 5 minute head to head prog
    Features the makers of the “Femme Fag and Negress” podcast
    ..what a surprise that Radio4 went for #MoreEqualThan people
    …NOT
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0005f9k

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    • fakenewswatcher says:
      May 31, 2019 at 5:55 pm

      Stew – What was really amusing is how the ‘lady’ in question rambled on about ‘cultural appropriation’, blissfully unaware that she had ‘appropriated’ an entire country/culture unto herself. By her own argument, surely she was a Zimbabwean, who should hasten back there?
      I will refrain from commenting on the breadth -or lack thereof- of her vocab…
      An embarrassing few minutes from an embarrassing channel.

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  7. Annunaki says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:17 pm

    Why we are at war with islamists in our country:

    Number 1:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7087929/Pro-Palestine-group-supported-Corbyn-forces-Jewish-shops-close.html
    EXCLUSIVE: British Jews in fear after pro-Palestine group supported by Corbyn forces Jewish shops to close with ‘campaign of intimidation’

    Pro-Palestine activists have been conducting a ‘campaign of intimidation’ against Jewish shops that sell products from Israel for years
    The Palestine Solidarity Campaign, which is supported by Corbyn, has forced two Jewish businesses to close and activists have threatened others
    Other groups targeted a British Jewish shopkeeper in Ireland and Scotland, forcing him to relocate three times and eventually flee Britain
    A new film, Hounded, has been released by anti-racist campaigners to draw attention to how British Jewish shopkeepers have been living in fear for years

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    • TrueToo says:
      May 31, 2019 at 5:28 pm

      Annunaki,

      Dunno if that group is the same as the Palestine Solidarity Movement, which is or was basically a terrorist front. Probably is.

      I look forward to Imams ranting and raving in their mosques against the scum that go around threatening productive people and destroying their businesses just because they are Jewish.

      I also look forward to indignant reports from the BBC as they expose this evil.

      I guess I’ll be waiting a long time.

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    • Thoughtful says:
      May 31, 2019 at 6:29 pm

      reminiscent of Krystallnacht, although most of the Fascists verging on Nazi who support Corbyn.

      Dangerous and frightening times

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  8. Annunaki says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    Why we are at war with islamists in our country:

    Number 2:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7089569/Javid-accused-human-fly-tipping-decision-Shamima-Begum-citizenship.html
    Shamima Begum’s family accuse Sajid Javid of ‘human fly-tipping’ jihadi bride and exploiting her to aid his career – as they blame Britain for failing to protect her from being ‘groomed’ by ISIS

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    • Not Gwent says:
      May 31, 2019 at 6:35 pm

      “human fly-tipping”

      Is this what mowing tourists down on Westminster Bridge is called?

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    • vlad says:
      May 31, 2019 at 7:08 pm

      One headline moans that “UK failed IS bride” (Shamima).

      I would put it the other way round: Shamima (and family) failed UK!

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  9. Annunaki says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:22 pm

    Why we are at war with islamists in our country:

    Number 3:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7089099/Across-country-fundamentalist-Muslims-protesting-LGBT-lessons-class.html
    The new school gate BULLIES: It started with one Birmingham primary, now it’s spreading nationwide – fundamentalist Muslims (some dressed in horror masks) protesting over LGBT lessons in class. PAUL BRACCHI investigates

    Almost all of Anderton’s 800 pupils are Muslims, for who homosexuality is sinful
    The religious divide at heart of this community culminates in school gate pickets
    Protests feature placards with ‘My child, my choice’, ‘Our voice must be heard’

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  10. Annunaki says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:23 pm

    I could go on but just 3 examples of gobby muslims and their twisted agenda, they should be handed a free placard and megaphone at immigrstion and a British flag to burn

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  11. Annunaki says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:42 pm

    Why do we not have a written consitution that all immigrants and their brood have to sign up to on pain of forced repatriation

       12 likes

  12. Annunaki says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:46 pm

    Britain should ‘not be rolling out red carpet’ for Donald Trump, says London mayor Sadiq Khan – https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7090585/Donald-Trump-protesters-plan-fly-baby-blimp-disrupt-presidents-state-visit-week.html

       13 likes

    • Not Gwent says:
      May 31, 2019 at 6:33 pm

      This is the sorry excuse of a man who speaks with the authority vested in him as the Mayor of London yet complains incessantly whilst failing even to keep the roads open.

         17 likes

  13. Helen Richardson says:
    May 31, 2019 at 5:53 pm

    This is not directly related to the BBC but it concerns bias and might be of interest.

    I was intrigued by a comment under this Breitbart article:

    Brexit Party and Lib Dems Grapple for Westminster First Place as Voters Abandon Tories, Labour

    “This poll is manipulated, BS! I know, because I am YouGov member, and was a participant!
    On the question of who you would vote for in the next General Election, Brexit Party was not an option. You had to select ‘OTHER’, and it then gave you more options including CUKS, Brexit Party, etc.”

    Now Breitbart comments tend to be just one notch above YouTube comments, so I’m wary, and decided to join YouGov myself to see what happens. The application process includes many questions on a variety of subjects, one of which is “How did you vote in the EU Election”. “The Brexit Party” was not an option, I had to tick the “Other” box. This lends credence to the Breitbart comment, above.

    Looking forward to taking part in the first YouGov poll.

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    • TrueToo says:
      May 31, 2019 at 6:53 pm

      Helen Richardson,

      Well, to mangle an old saying, there are lies, damn lies and then there are polls.

      I recall that some US polls before the US elections had Donald Trump as a no-hoper.

      And everyone and his dog was sure that labor had the Aussie elections won by a mile.

      It’s really a hopeful sign that The Brexit Party can do so well on a skewed poll like that one.

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    • Boomer says:
      May 31, 2019 at 6:53 pm

      I have done exactly the same.

      Hope to do my bit to redress the balance.

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  14. countryblues says:
    May 31, 2019 at 6:12 pm

    BBC News…

    House prices rise = BAD
    House prices fall = BAD
    House prices stagnate = BAD

    …all due to the uncertainties of Brexit! BBC onto a sure-fire winner there… 🙁

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  15. StewGreen says:
    May 31, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    Sky tweets \\ Lib Dems ‘would win general election tomorrow’//

    Yeh Sky making an outrageous headline
    ..just to make me click …GFY SKY

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  16. StewGreen says:
    May 31, 2019 at 7:09 pm

    7:30pm Channel 4 prog on WWF human right’s abusers
    \\ WWF-funded “eco-guards” who protect neighbouring national parks harass them,
    not least because the Baka are traditionally discriminated against as pygmies //
    https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/hyhwc2/unreported-world–s37-e6-forest-of-fear/

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  17. Guest Who says:
    May 31, 2019 at 7:18 pm

    Reg is in the (non) news.

    I like this one best so far.

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    • Dover Sentry says:
      May 31, 2019 at 7:36 pm

      Would Elton have said that in 1940 when Germany ruled Europe and wanted us as a compliant colony and…..wait a minute..

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    • The WestWyvern says:
      May 31, 2019 at 8:20 pm

      Good stuff Guest,

      Should have pointed out that Elton John, real name Reginald Dwight…..

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    • Nibor says:
      May 31, 2019 at 9:56 pm

      I’m ashamed he’s British.

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  18. Fedup2 says:
    May 31, 2019 at 7:43 pm

    I’ve been thinking about my personal way forward in relation to use of the MSM . I’ve been cutting down on most BBC current affairs and output generally ;often I find the level of bias beyond offence . I never buy newspapers, don’t pay or use Sky nor any of the other entertainment providers ( yet ).

    I help administer this site so I read the entries just in case any of them need ‘cleaning up ‘ – as you know – thankfully few do – so thank you .

    I’m going to put up the weekend thread now

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    • The WestWyvern says:
      May 31, 2019 at 8:07 pm

      Fed, in much the same vane, I don’t subscribe to SLY or take the MSM news rags, infact stopped around the time of Bonking Boris in the Sun (late 80s) I think.
      As for the Beeb, well I’m still waiting for a letter and a visit, but to be fair they can go to hell as the last two weeks have hardened my already entrenched views as to their bias, anti British propaganda and general approach to normalising and promotion of everything I view as wrong, deviant and corrupt in society.

      And thanks for the continued good admin work on the site. It’s an oasis of sanity.

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      • The WestWyvern says:
        May 31, 2019 at 8:11 pm

        PS for someone I think who asked, a Wyvern is a mythological British cryptid, like a Dragon, but smaller, more tenacious and vicious, apparently!

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  19. StewGreen says:
    May 31, 2019 at 7:59 pm

    Discussion about Labour Remainiac GPs deplatforming JHB
    using offence archaeology by digging up a 3 year old tweet saying that Enoch Powell was not a racist
    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/spectator-new-blogs/the_rcgps_ridiculous_decision_to_no_platform_me/

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    • Fedup2 says:
      May 31, 2019 at 8:19 pm

      Pre judging the words someone is going to use on the basis of past comments is pretty shallow fare .

      Surely it gives opportunity to explain or justify – if such a thing is possible .

      But to just denounce and withdraw an invitation does reflect something about our time . Perhaps it’s a side effect of the internet being forever there .

      If people who are doctors do this sort of thing what hope for those lower down on the moral high ground ?

      Sometimes I think it’s a kind of rolling circus where someone says they disapprove of something and then a mindless bandwagon of virtue gets going leading to individuals just badged as toxic . There is no one able to stop it once it gets going ,

      TR is obviously the model for this . It can only be a matter of time for those who run the internet to
      Remove thought and opinion with which it does not agree – which puts sites like this – with no constitutional freedom of speech to defend it – well and truly on the Target List .

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      • Not Gwent says:
        May 31, 2019 at 9:29 pm

        “constitutional freedom of speech”

        It’s never going to happen – that boat has sailed.

        It’s another benefit of being inclusive (even to those who wish us harm).

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  20. Northern Dreamer says:
    May 31, 2019 at 8:51 pm

    CBI leader Carolyn Fairbairn, worth a look at her on Wikipedia.
    A more typical globalist, elitist and ‘anywhere’ in the world type of person it would be hard to find.
    Also owns posh hotel in France, 454€ per night. Perhaps this is why she wishes to remain as close to the EU as possible. There is always a grubby little self interest lurking in the swamp these people inhabit.

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  21. Celtic_Mist says:
    May 31, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    I had missed this and sure it has been mentioned already?

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  22. fakenewswatcher says:
    June 3, 2019 at 1:07 pm

    WELCOME PRESIDENT TRUMP!
    Typical bbc lunchtime news on the visit: a lot about controversy, past gaffes, protests, etc.
    Then Vicky somebody, protester, interviewed.

    Now Jon Sopel. GROANNNNN…

    Sopel launches an attack about the Khan tweet.

    Simon says it’s time to watch your twitter account…

    They simply can’t do the arrival ceremony, period.

    Now we have Adina Campbell, who talks to two wimmin, one of whom has anti-Trump views. No men about, it seems…
    Adina says there will be protests. Costs. etc etc

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