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  1. Celtic_Mist says:
    October 20, 2019 at 6:02 pm

    Why has this been elevated from local to UK News?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50115552

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  2. Doobster78 says:
    October 20, 2019 at 6:19 pm

    Brilliant … He knows how to get at em !!!!

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  3. LastChanceSaloon says:
    October 20, 2019 at 6:20 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/20/brexit-boris-johnson-eu-deal-delay-live-news
    The Guardian has dragged out another old German born EUrophile out of his coffin.

    “Uwe Kitzinger worked as an adviser to Winston Churchill’s son-in-law Christopher Soames from 1973 to 1975,
    when Lord Soames became the first British vice-president of the European commission.”

    “Kitzinger attended the People’s Vote march in London on Saturday and believes the public are now better informed to make a choice.”

    ““I do not see how the question of sovereignty over the issue of Europe can be settled without the people of this country having a say, now that they are much better informed, and now that there is actually a proposal,” he told PA.”

    We are better informed than ever about the untrustworthy totalitarian EU and the lying traitors who work for the EU throughout Europe.
    We had our say in 2016 and have not changed our opinion.

    ““It is the negation of all I stood for and all I worked for in my career, but that isn’t the important thing.
    “The important thing is what happens to my grandchildren, and their children.””

    I am very pleased your left wing life has been wasted, your descendants will have to live in the, Europe soon to be at war with Islam, you plotted to bring about. Now FOAD and take Brenda Hale with you.

    Well it is Sunday and I am always a litttle more charitable.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:
      October 20, 2019 at 6:56 pm

      LCS, I keep coming back to this ‘being properly informed’ thing.

      What are the metrics by which it is decided that we are sufficiently informed? Do we put government on hold until each and every member of the electorate has read the complete works of Aristotle and Bertrand Russell or has the omniscience of a Buddha?

      Or do we wait until a few columnists at Guardian HQ declare that they’ve pumped out enough “facts are sacred” commentary into the ether? I think we know the answer, but I’d love to see some benchmarks so we know what to aim for as a target.

      Even a pie chart or two would help.

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    • Up2snuff says:
      October 20, 2019 at 7:42 pm

      Poor old ‘Dave’. All that money (£6m? £9m?) he spent getting that booklet written, the text checked for accuracy, on the printing of 25 million copies and their delivery to every household in the land at the time he was advocating us to vote Remain

      He could have left it to the famous Grauniad, known tor their fotal arcuracy, to do it on his behalf for free.

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  4. LastChanceSaloon says:
    October 20, 2019 at 6:53 pm

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/textbased/debate/text-7592013/ANDREW-ROBERTS-Britain-needs-inquiry-elite-turned-Brexit-humiliation.html

    What many Leavers have maintained since the betrayal began.
    Drain the Swamp.

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    • Fedup2 says:
      October 20, 2019 at 7:11 pm

      Last chance
      Thank you for the comment – it links nicely to my one at 4.02pm today .

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  5. Doobster78 says:
    October 20, 2019 at 7:02 pm

    Don’t worry. If he has gerrymandered the law, Gina Miller will have him in court this week !!! Oh, hang on ……..silly me !!

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  6. Celtic_Mist says:
    October 20, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    Why should anyone listen to biased BBC and MSM drivel when the political timetable is here (unless there are late changes)? –

    https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201920/cmagenda/ob191021.htm#_idTextAnchor002
    /
    BUSINESS OF THE DAY
    1. SECTION 13(1)(B) OF THE EUROPEAN UNION (WITHDRAWAL) ACT 2018
    Up to 90 minutes (Standing Order No. 16(1))

    The Prime Minister

    That this House approves for the purposes of section 13(1)(b) of the European Union (Withdrawal) Act 2018 the following documents laid before the House on 19 October 2019:

    (1) the negotiated withdrawal agreement titled Agreement on the withdrawal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland from the European Union and the European Atomic Energy Community;

    (2) the framework for the future relationship titled Political Declaration setting out the framework for the future relationship between the European Union and the United Kingdom;

    (3) the unilateral declaration by the UK titled Declaration by Her Majesty’s Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland concerning the operation of the Democratic consent in Northern Ireland provision of the Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland.
    /
    Then Amendment (a) by SNP (Blackwood) –
    /
    Line 1, leave out from “That” to end and add “this House declines to approve the withdrawal agreement and future framework; calls for the Prime Minister to secure an extension under Article 50(3) of the Treaty on European Union until at least 31 January 2020 for the purpose of holding an early general election before the end of the extension period.”
    /

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  7. taffman says:
    October 20, 2019 at 7:17 pm

    I see that Al Beeb’s web page is posting the IRA’s Plan to hit south east England’s power supply back in the 1990’s.
    Project fear propaganda to prevent Brexit using the NI Border backstop etc ?

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  8. Up2snuff says:
    October 20, 2019 at 8:02 pm

    Well, the BBC know all about having to alter things after the fact.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50117797

    Who are they to throw stones?

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  9. G.W.F. says:
    October 20, 2019 at 8:14 pm

    St Greta is in Canada during its General Election promoting political views regarding climate change which amount to a foreign organization participating in Canadian elections

    The question regarding BBC Bias is why is she being accompanied by the BBC?

    See the vid.

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  10. vlad says:
    October 20, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    The little hate-monger has been sent in by her highly politicised minders and parents to affect the elections.
    As the interviewer points out, Canada is the cleanest most ethical energy producer on the planet, while the great polluters like China, India, Russia are ignored.
    “I’ll go if I’m invited” says the naive little poppet. Sure precious, Putin and Xi Jinping are dying to invite you. Then you can have a word with Kim Jong-un.

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  11. Fedup2 says:
    October 20, 2019 at 8:43 pm

    A shocking piece in the Guardian – never to be echoed by the State Broadcaster about Caroline Flint MP . Now ms flint is a rarity – an honourable Labour MP – she was a remainer – but now campaigns to Leave . Her constituency voted 80% – I’ll repeat that 80% to leave in the referendum .

    Now I know these are dumb working class people who didn’t know what they voted for -in fact – why have these plebs got a vote at all ?

    The guardian sent a reporter to talk to them – and guess what ? They support Ms Flint and Brexit – even though it seems that they are all better informed about the ‘issues ‘ now .

    The comment made in a video put on here about brexiters not being from London and being unwilling to spend a shed load of money getting to and from London to protest is a real one – and one the state broadcaster doesn’t talk about .

    Now was there much mention that wealthy luvvies had hired coaches to ship in remainer protesters to Westminster on saturday .

    ( and before anyone goes off on one about my ‘dumb working class ‘ line – I am one of them – and to abused by a remainer in that way would be a badge of honour

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  12. StewGreen says:
    October 20, 2019 at 9:05 pm

    Countryfile = #Wokephile
    #3 The wag finger bit
    Is the presenter impartial or do you spot some loaded language ?

    “Are we doing enough to boost the number of new trees in the UK ?”

    Presenter @CharlotteBSmith
    …. What campaigners & MOST policy makers now agree is A CLIMATE EMERGENCY !”
    with Woodland Trust man
    “A tree holds about 250KG of CO2
    …. blah blah * ( My full notes )

    Enthusiast ‘We have to get on planting’
    Presenter “Because all our futures count on it !”

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    • Up2snuff says:
      October 20, 2019 at 9:57 pm

      “A tree holds 250kilos of CO2.”

      Must be a massive tree, not a skinny silver birch. Trees absorb most CO2 when young & growing fast, not much when old.

      And do I recall an item on the BBC web-site some time back that a researcher has discovered that trees emit methane.

      Oh dear!

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      • StewGreen says:
        October 20, 2019 at 10:20 pm

        See my full notes
        “A tree holds about 250KG of CO2 over 100 years
        ie 4 trees/tonne ”
        (… false ..cos you forgot to account for the seedlings it creates and new growths
        If you leave one tree on land, then after 100 years you might have 10 trees
        Depends on species of course.
        I think they were talking about oaks.

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        • Up2snuff says:
          October 21, 2019 at 10:01 am

          Stew, I thought it might be the case that they were being ‘gender specific’, as it were. Didn’t look at your notes as I knew they would be thorough and right on the money.

          It just amazes me that the GreenBlob or MentalistEnviros don’t understand trees and forests and growing things the way normal people are taught about them in science classes in school (or used to be taught about them) nor do they respond to and promote scientific research that may not favourably accord with their propaganda.

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    • StewGreen says:
      October 20, 2019 at 10:13 pm

      Other issues in the prog
      #1 The Foresters Forest : conservation in Coleford ..adder camp
      .. out with the kids
      #2 Yew tree forest, famous from movies
      #4 traditional forest crafts man
      #5 The flog the calendar bit (They unnecessarily cut down trees to make the £10 calendar that generates £4.50 for charity)
      #6 Adam’s farm ..mating the animals etc.
      #7 Bees putting in domesticated bees into a Woodland Trust
      They make mead
      (Actually you are not supposed to do that cos it’s wild bees territory)
      #8 Weather
      #9 Quick old photo of coal mining
      ..then a brass band the remnant (8 minute item)

      ie it’s mostly stuff forLondon peole, not actual country people

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  13. TrueToo says:
    October 20, 2019 at 9:10 pm

    Fedup2,

    Well, I’ve gone through the thread and I feel for you guys over there as you brace yourselves for the next act of treachery by people who have the gall to regard themselves as righteous and democratic when they are anything but.

    While fighting with Windows 10 OS, ‘brainchild’ of the awful Microsoft, I’ve been reminded of the BBC and was thinking of putting up a post about the similarities between them – both unaccountable, unapproachable, monopolistic organisations wallowing in wealth and scornful of the ordinary folk they leech off.

    Well, all we can hope for is that there will eventually be justice for the little guy.

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    • Fedup2 says:
      October 20, 2019 at 9:58 pm

      True too
      Yes – it’s going to be the Bercow show again – aided and abetted by the State Broadcaster .

      If another A50 extension is made – perhaps beyond January 2020- one can only wonder what the mental state of the country is going to be .

      I’m putting up the new thread now ……

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  14. Guest Who says:
    October 20, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    KGM speaks for all… well, all in a very small bubble.

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    • StewGreen says:
      October 20, 2019 at 9:55 pm

      @GuestWho
      KGM says “*We* care about the BBC because we feel it is *ours*.”

      ie KGM and his metroLiberal mates think the BBC is owned by them

      That Twitter thread is weird ..it only has 337 likes*
      and the commenters seem to all from Guardianlalaland
      look how they all claim that the BBC supports the Tories

      * That number of Likes is pathetic considering he has 600K followers

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    • JimS says:
      October 20, 2019 at 10:03 pm

      “My licence fee is a fraction of what I pay in tv and video subscriptions.”

      Doesn’t sound like he is satisfied customer of the BBC or a very loyal listener/viewer.

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      • StewGreen says:
        October 20, 2019 at 11:25 pm

        Krishnan-Marie-Antoinette-Murthy
        adds “My licence fee is a fraction of what I pay in tv and video subscriptions.”
        As he spits down on the plebs
        .. £150 is a lot of money to some people

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        • taffman says:
          October 20, 2019 at 11:27 pm

          If Krishnan wants to pay for it let him . I am not .
          I don’t like lager beer so I don’t pay for it . I buy good Welsh bitter.
          Simples.

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  15. Jeff says:
    October 20, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    I’ve had a really blissful day.
    After the trauma of yesterday’s treacherous vote by the house of parasites and the mind numbing endless propaganda by their cheer leaders at The Beeb, I have avoided all contact with the media today. I couldn’t take any more. Seeing those gormless middle class halfwits in their EU hats mincing through London was the last straw.
    Yesterday I was stressed and fractious. Today, being Beeb free, I’m smiling and serene.
    What is absolutely crystal clear is that this worthless parliament will never vote for Brexit in any meaningful form. They’ll concoct any excuse to prevaricate and to frustrate our democracy. Most of these people are lawyers…loophole finders and liars by nature and job description.
    It’s their smug, self righteousness that I despise as much as their dishonesty. They’ll lecture us about the importance of a “people’s vote” while having ignored the largest people’s vote in this country’s long history. And they’re so very pleased with themselves.
    Don’t worry, their time will come.
    Guy Fawkes Night is only a few weeks away…

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  16. StewGreen says:
    October 20, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    Hilarious Remainer MPs broken promises videos

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  17. StewGreen says:
    October 20, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    Rebel Media’s own promo video is pretty good

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  18. fakenewswatcher says:
    October 20, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    Fuehrer Bercow is readying himself for tomorrow. Total power. Sets the agenda as he pleases. Parliament is only allowed to discuss what he wants. End of.
    Isn’t there something terribly wrong here?
    Makes parliament a farce.
    Turns the whole idea of democracy into a joke.
    Did the original Fuehrer actually have this much power?

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  19. Celtic_Mist says:
    October 21, 2019 at 2:42 am

    May was unable to get any Brexit deal agreed and now the BBC reports that the numbers are there for Boris’s deal.

    Where could it all go wrong, I mean right, ie exit on the 31st with no deal?

    ‘The effect of s13(1) is to require the House of Commons to “say yes” twice to the Withdrawal Agreement, by first approving “the deal” itself and subsequently by passing the Withdrawal Agreement Bill’
    https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bd24c5b3-e4f8-4adf-b21e-17e1fd3d2c08

    The EU will not grant an extension unless Boris can demonstrate that his WA will pass, or there will be a second referendum or a general election.

    Bercow might scupper the MV, Labour are split on the SR and also don’t want a GE until it suits them.

    All Boris and ERG have to do is to sink their own agreement? QED

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