524 Responses to Midweek Thread 23 October 2019

  1. StewGreen says:

    A guy who owned a furniture shop in Liverpool
    has just got 20 years for burning it and the entire street down
    in a £50K insurance scam
    name : Pascal George Francois Blasio
    I wonder where he was born ?
    He has a house on the Costas, but the internet hadn’t heard of him before 2016

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  2. taffman says:

    “PM says he will try for 12 December election”
    Urm IMHO I think Boris and the Tory party are finished . “We are leaving” X 100, “Brexit means Brexit” , “Die in a ditch”, Promises , promises, promises, and even more promises for over three and a half years about leaving the EU . Boris wants his pig in a lipstick . Parliament has failed the people of this great nation.

    Farage and The Brexit Party here we go…………………

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    • taffman says:

      It looks like that its not going to happen as there are too many MPs facing unemployment if there was an election. ‘Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas’. Boris has failed.
      Inevitably there will be an election, its just a matter of time and people are getting angrier with Parliament .

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Apologies if someone already posted this from the Brexbox channel on YouTube.
      It’s about half an hour long but worth a watch because they have a barrister in the discussion and he highlights all the main reasons to not vote for Prime Minister Johnson’s withdrawal act bill.
      For me it reinforces the need for us to Leave the EU on WTO terms:

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      • Payne by name says:

        Watching it now, thanks for posting.

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      • theisland says:

        Here is the bit about Foreign and Defence Policy

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    • Dystopian says:

      Well said Taffman. Agreed.

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  3. Frustrated says:

    Not BBBC – but I need to vent …

    Having completely given up on R4 I have had ParliamentLive running in the background while working today (I regularly check this site to see if anyone has added anything, but that means stopping to read when I should be translating ;o)

    In the end I just had to turn the sound off! … It seems the majority of those speaking today (at least this afternoon) were Opposition MPs and all I’ve heard is aggressive complaining, whingeing voices going on and on and on.

    Very occasionally there would suddenly be a calmer, more positive atmosphere when someone from the Government bench spoke.

    I wasn’t even necessarily listening to what they were saying it was just the way the speeches were presented.

    Unfortunately Bercow has in the meantime reappeared so the moaning is interspersed with his corrosive tones. (It’s interesting to note that since Bercow has been sitting there, the Opposition benches are louder and much more hostile – as if they sense they can do it with him – earlier with BOTH the other Speakers there was just the occasional “hear, hear”).

    I hope we will soon be seeing the back of Bellowing Bercow with his caustic bias (he really attacked Andrea Leadsom just now for saying Corbyn’s name – “that isn’t the done thing”, yes, she should presumably have known that but one can put it differently …)

    So enough venting, back to work …

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  4. digg says:

    BBC website

    “Most Watched”

    1. Inside Bosnia’s Nightmare Migrant Camp

    2. Couple with push chair in car crash near miss

    3. I came to the UK hiding in a lorry

    4. I’m a Muslim artist inspired by the female body

    3 out of 4 ain’t bad but why they didn’t point out it was a white driver in the car in item 2 is a refreshing surprise!

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      digg
      A miss is as good as a mile so – no drama = no story. Even so it is perhaps surprising that our national broadcaster didn’t manage to spin some sort of anti white man web out of the incident. Perhaps they are too preoccupied with Brexit. I disconnected from these cretins quite a long time ago and intend to stay disconnected. They are the pits.

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  5. taffman says:

    \\Maternity leave assembly members should have ‘substitute’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50159517
    “Justice powers for Wales urged by commission”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50128933

    How much did this lot cost ? Its about time we got rid of this wasteful bureaucracy.
    There is a HYS running on this.

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  6. Stevie m says:

    Labour mps saying a winter election is not fair on the voters. Come on how hard is driving half a mile to put a x on a ballot paper. Bottlers

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    • pugnazious says:

      Apparently it’s a ‘fresh fruit desert’ if you live in an area where you have to travel 500m to buy some…..no doubt postal votes are also an inconvenience as you have to walk to the post box…maybe hand your ballot paper to nice ‘Uncle Raj’ who’ll not only post it for you but fill it in as well.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Stevie
      Wot!???? Labour voters actually own those environmentally damaging vehicles?? Shame on them. St.Greta should be informed immediately.

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      • Stevie m says:

        All in eastern European Trabants no doubt

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        • Lefty Wright says:

          Stevie m
          Keep it to yourself but in the 1970s I bought one of these cars ( in fact I eventually bought 2) Well they were cheap and I had a wife (JUST BETWEEN YOU AND ME, IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS CUSTOMARY FOR A BLOKE TO MARRY A WOMAN. ANYTHING ELSE WAS CONSIDERED A PERVERSION) and 4 children to support and I was of course, in my ignorance, quite proud of the fact that I was in some small way supporting Socialism. Oh dear what a stupid Khant I was in my youthful days. I just hope I will not die a stupid Khant.

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  7. pugnazious says:

    As the BBC fills the airwaves with tales of white racism in nasty, racist, Brexit Britain they curiously edit out inconvenient Asian racism…

    ‘A tree surgeon nearly died in a “barbaric” axe attack when a road rage dispute turned a street into a battleground, a court heard.

    Cameron Brooksbank, 20, stepped in to defend an elderly woman who was abused for her driving, in Rochdale.

    But Habibur Rahman, of the town, felt “disrespected” and assembled up to 20 men for the attack, Manchester Minshull Street Crown Court heard.’

    Here’s what everyone else reported….

    ‘Rahman was told to calm down by one of the four tree surgeons working in the area and a scuffle broke out between the pair.

    The defendant then told the workmen they were “going to get stabbed up” as he blocked their vehicle in with his car, called one of them a “white bastard” and told him they were in “his country”, Manchester Minshull Street Crown Court heard.’

    Be very afraid when they have Enoch’s ‘whiphand’.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      It’s worse than anything Enoch could ever have imagined.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Bit late @Pug You’ve been beaten by three and half days @LastChanceSaloon mentioned it on Monday October 21, 2019 at 3:27 am
      Then I mentioned his post at the opening of this thread.

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        SG – Thank you.
        I was reporting on the sentences given to the peaceful ones!
        The actual event was buried so deep by the MSM I was/still am, unable to discover when it was.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Cheers @LCS I heard the Rochdale case being discussed on the radio last night
          I think it must have been a podcast, certainly not BBC

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    • Dystopian says:

      “Felt disrespected”
      Do these creatures think that respect is an automatic entitlement. Do they not know that respect is something you earn?
      They are probably not capable of “earning” anything other than drug, pimping or people trafficking money. All laundered via your friendly neighbourhood chicken shop, allegedly.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        As a muslim, he felt it was his automatic right to be respected by a dhimmi. It is laid down in the book consisting of the voices mohammed heard inside his head.

        If a muslim is disrespected by a dhimmi, he is fully within his rights to strike off the dhimmi’s head, which is exactly what this muslim was trying to do.

        Obviously, the judge must have thought that islam is a “religion of peace”, and therefore the muslim was not charged with attempted murder.

        All we can know for sure is that it will happen again. And again. It will never stop.

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  8. Not Gwent says:

    In theory a watered down version of ‘Leaving the EU’ plus an election afterwards? Corbyn has been jumping up and down telling us how terrible Johnston’s deal was – why not finally spell out what Labour would do with a blank sheet of paper and a seat at Europe’s top table?

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Not Gwent
      I once described myself as a Socialist as, I believe, did Adolf Hitler.
      On the basis of what I have read, seen and heard I cannot bring myself to believe that Mr Corbyn is a really nasty piece of work but I think he should attempt to control some of his more vocal and in my view, not quite the ticket, supporters who seem to want to destroy the concepts of nation states, the family and even gender etc. This apparently, all in the name of bringing peace, love and harmony to all of mankind. I say look around you. Mankind has never loved all of his own species and never will. The best we can attain is peaceful co-existence between nations. Sometimes even close family members cannot stand the sight of each other and I’m certain that if we managed to persuade all of our business people to stop all of their nasty, divisive, competitive habits we would all wind up poorer. Humanity ain’t all sweetness and light. Live with it.

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      • Dystopian says:

        “I cannot bring myself to believe that Mr Corbyn is a really nasty piece of work”

        Just because he looks like a harmless old man doesn’t make him so. He has openly supported the actions of all manner of ‘nasty pieces of work’ in the past and still does so now.
        He is the devil in disguise.

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        • smoogie7 says:

          Yes do not fall for that Magic Grampa look. He might look all cool when being interviewed by the BBC but I can see right through it.

          Take the Benn act. The idea was to ‘stop no deal’ but Corbyn the ‘Euroskeptic’ (but not a real Brexiteer) seemed cool with it. Why? Because if Brexit is delayed then it looks bad for Boris and he would lose support. With votes being split then Corbyn has a chance of winning with 25% of votes and could then form maybe a coalition with the SNP.

          The SNP will demand an Indyref2 and will agree to vote for Labour’s aggressive socialist policies thinking that if Scotland leaves the UK then it won’t effect them and they could amend Scottish law at will.

          This way Corbyn gets an easy ride and while he will kick his own Scottish Labour unionists under the bus that does not matter as he will only have to conquer England and Wales while Northen Ireland would be gifted towards the republic to appease his mates at the IRA.

          The Benn act is Corbyn’s route to power and at the moment he is eyeing up the gates of Downing Street. It can happen if we do not vote tactfully.

          So yes, Corbyn seems like a nice guy if you want someone to water your plants and look after your cat while you go on holiday but if he finds out that you are not a left winger the expect to come home to find your plants used as a urinal and your cat has gone missing…

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          • Not Gwent says:

            “He might look all cool when being interviewed”

            I don’t know. (Like Corbyn) Brown was well loved by his constituents, much like a regimental goat, yet when it came to election time all he could do well was to say what “they would” do. What “we would” do on the EU remains a mystery some three and a half years after the event.

            Corbyn is a wrecker not a builder.

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            • smoogie7 says:

              Corbyn benefits more after leaving the EU. Both the Brexit Party and the Lib Dems are a thorn in Labour’s side and I hope that thorn hurts.

              If Brexit has been delivered then Corbyn can do his usual promising everything without someone asking what his views on Brexit are. Any teething problems with Brexit he will blame on the Tories knowing full well that the BBC would back him as with the BBC even if there are no teething problems they will make some of their own

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      • Not Gwent says:

        “I cannot bring myself to believe that Mr Corbyn is a really nasty piece of work”

        I think Corbyn is another Khan (or perhaps Grant) – a really good complainer. It is ominous that he wouldn’t a face TV debate before the referendum for either side. Was Corbyn incapable of forming and promoting an argument of his own?

        I’d be fascinated to see him cut a deal with the EU, and on his return, have our parliament carry him shoulder high around the table between the front benches. A fascination or a fantasy?

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        • angryGloster says:

          Well, I heard Corbyn talk on immigration, after three minutes of it, I was none the wiser.
          Which side of Brexit does he fall,…. none the wiser.
          What does he think about, er… anything?

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      • Banania says:

        Corbyn is not a nice person.

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  9. pugnazious says:

    Who said this?

    ‘White[liberal] people telling others how to live. Is this really the 2020 look the Democrats want to embrace? At least Barack Obama would enjoy the joke.’

    That’s right….knew you’d get it…the BBC’s right-on, Democrat supporting whitest of white uber liberals…Justin Webb.

    If the poster of Obama in Webb’s home office didn’t give you a clue this angst riven, and highly un-self-aware, plea to the Democrats would give the game away about Webb’s Democrat leanings…

    The toxic self-hatred of white Democrats

    ‘White liberals have been so radicalised on race that they’ve left the rest of the country — minorities included — far behind…they are horrified too, it seems, by themselves: by the colour of their skin; by the wrongs done by white people and by the system they set up…. the white folks are openly hostile to poor Joe[Biden] and much more in love with candidates who properly embrace the horror of white oppression.

    The level of dislike white liberal Democrats seem to have for themselves is quite something. Could it play with their heads and those of their supporters? How positive about America will they feel they can be before coming up against the mental stumbling block that they have decided race is a massive unresolved scar on the face of their nation?

    If the white liberals in his party have their way [the] route to power is going to be blocked by racial tensions that they themselves stoke.’

    That bastion of white liberal power, the BBC, has as its mission ‘telling people how to live’ and indeed what to think and what to say. Webb seems totally unaware of his own and his colleagues’ toxic liberal totalitarianism that holds white people, and anyone not expressing the right attitudes towards the BBC’s favoured issues, in complete contempt and actively works to demonise, malign, mock and silence such unwanted voices.

    He and his colleagues eagerly support the neo-Nazi like racist ideologies of the likes of race-baiters Afua Hirsch and David Lammy who champion the separation of the races, black pride, black nationalism essentially, and in doing so stoke racial tensions and future race conflict in this country as the Lammys and Hirschs continue to try to ‘de-colonise’ Britain…ie ethnically and culturally cleanse Britain of white people, their society and history. Their aim is exactly as Webb complains is happening in the US…to make people guilty and ashamed to be white and to make them make ‘amends’…by scrubbing the country of its white, oppressive past and present and no doubt white people paying Black people billions.

    Race war anyone?

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    • angryGloster says:

      The liberal elite hatred of white, their love of the primitive, (look up primitivism) -is what powers them, wallowing in righteous imperial guilt. -hatred of everything their great, great, great, great, great grandfathers did, the past being nothing but oppression, no medicine, no science, no comfort, no sanitation (the first thing you do in the morning , in many African towns is find a place to shit), The liberal elite consider that life is noting but oppression, and siding with victims may help them on judgement day. and appearance till then, When this becomes the ONLY history taught in schools (on the way, on the way), by the reform of language: all other terms not permitted, as that would be hate speech, you get an idea how they work, get inside the young, who want to commit suicide as the only way to live, – is not to,

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  10. Fedup2 says:

    OFCOM has today launched its 57 page report on the state broadcaster . It finds , happily , that younger people are continuing to reduce their intake of the state broadcasters ‘ product .

    This can only encourage us to think that slowly but surely the state broadcaster will diminish as – frankly – better stuff can easily be found elsewhere .

    I ll write something more detailed ( if someone else doesn’t) because whether we like it or not OFCOM currently calls the tune in telling the government how the state broadcaster is doing .

    I really hope someone from ofcom reads this blog but somehow I think – as former state broadcaster employees- many think the state broadcaster is beyond criticism .

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    • EmptyingDadsShed says:

      When the licence fees collected dwindle to an alarming level,
      the “necessary” money to feed the BBC will be taken as a tax attached to a media provider such as internet access

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    • Not Gwent says:

      The young people I know don’t have TVs.

      They’d rather spend their cash on pizza.

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  11. john in cheshire says:

    John Pilger reports on the court appearance of Julian Assange on Monday. Brexit is pushing this case and the disgusting behaviour of our swamp rats in the judicial system towards Julian Assange under the carpet.

    This is about 13 minutes long and it is quite upsetting to listen to what he is undergoing at the hands of these wicked people:

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Here is a link to veteran hard lefty Pilger defending democracy and free speech when Tommy Robinson was arrested for exposing mass gang rapes carried out by organisms imported into the UK by the hard left.

      404 page not found.

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  12. StewGreen says:

    ITV 7:30pm Scaremongering ? cos I don’t think that world breaking science is going to first appear on an ITV popNews show presented by a GreenDream true believer
    .
    @lucysiegle reports in #ITVTonight’s ‘Plastic:
    The Unseen Truth’, on @ITV at 7:30pm
    It’s claimed that we could be unknowingly ingesting the same amount of plastic that makes up a coat hanger every month, due to microplastics in our environments.

    Sure we breathe & swallow plastic dust all the time
    just like we breathe & swallow soil particles and soil dust all the time

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    • Dystopian says:

      Just like the general public swallow all the sh1t the BBC tells them, which is far more harmful.

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      • StewGreen says:

        I bet you Coral and her brother Kors will make an appearance

        Correl Ation is not Caus Ation

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    • Up2snuff says:

      A whole plastic coat hanger?

      I’d take some convincing. Would have thought you’d have to be sprinkling 100 micron particles of plastic just like sugar on your sweetie wheaties or porage and in your tea every day to reach that total in a month.

      Stew, you are right. We do breathe in particles all the time but if the particle is heavy enough, large enough, that is only likely on very windy days – windy days with the right sort of choppy wind. The sort of thing that as a nipper on the beach at Cleethorpes 😉 would have had you grinding your teeth on the wind-blown dry sand.

      Most of the time, like tyre and brake dust, it will fall at the side of the road or wherever.

      The problem probably comes mostly from seafood 1. because the health experts (inc. regularly on the BBC) were telling us to eat lots of it, and 2. irresponsible contractors and sub-contractors were not supervised properly by the people we paid to supervise their contracts and instead of recycling the plastic waste items just dumped the stuff in the sea instead.

      I’m glad I don’t watch telly.

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    • Payne by name says:

      As Dr Patrick Moore would say, just another example of the public being told something that they can’t actually see.

      I mean when they tried to tell us 10 years ago that Diesels were clean, many questioned it because we could regularly see how noisy and messy they were when we were behind one.

      But when you fabricate nonsense like this coat hanger BS or there being a floating patch of discarded plastic in the pacific ocean the size of Texas (which there isn’t), or the polar bears dying (even though their numbers are at record highs) the public can’t physically watch, observe or count them and hence we just have to rely on faith that the journo are telling the truth – I mean why would they make it up…

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  13. digg says:

    Upstanding woke citizen falls from grace after pocketing charity money.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50169900

    Fingers in all sorts of good causes, Dogs Trust, Victim Support, Amnesty International, Politics Plus, NI MLA’s etc. makes you wonder how many more of these types there are?

    Only buried on the NI section of the BBC website of course

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    The Guardian is reporting that after a further A50 extension is raised on Friday bojo will attempt to get parliament dissolved next week for a general election on 12 December ..

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    • Dystopian says:

      Well it looks to me like Bojo is nothing more than TM Mark 2.
      First he said he’d rather be dead in a ditch than write a begging letter to the EU.
      Then he said we would be leaving deal or no deal, do or die.
      He said no delays, no extensions.
      All promises broken.
      Are we going to keep falling for the CONS?
      Surely by now it must be clear that they are all in this together.

      Boris is not in it to save us, he is in it to save himself and his CONservative party.
      He hopes to get his majority and then stitch us up with his non deal.
      Vote Brexit Party if you want Brexit.
      They want you to think you will split the vote. You won’t if everyone has the same idea.

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      • Payne by name says:

        I did have some hope for Boris and when he started, he hit the ground running and said the right things but putting his name to this abomination of a deal has sunk his ship.

        I could never vote for a party supporting this sell out or a leader that tried to convince me that it was a good deal.

        Bring on the GE and a vote for the Brexit Party.

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  15. EmptyingDadsShed says:

    I’ve thought of commenting on the BBC services I have used and rating the shows I’ve watched,
    Today – nothing
    Watched footballl, two recorded live matches on Bitchute this morning, then ITV3 this evening, maybe watch DRAMA on Freeview later on.
    When was the last time I used the BBC? I cannot remember
    Why would anyone similar to my viewing usage want to pay the BBC?
    .
    Is there a BBC show that would be worth my time to watch?

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      EDS – Andy Pandy 1950.
      More adult and sophisticated than any current programme produced by the low, low, lowest IQ, world’s least trusted broadcaster.

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  16. Dystopian says:

    I heard this narrative being pushed on the news. Apparently, according to the NUS, these poor students have “no choice” but to sell their knickers and socks or to sell themselves for sex.
    Oh what a struggle it must be. Nobody in history has ever struggled to make ends meet. They need to pay for their internet phones and their Nando’s and Costas etc.
    Of course it is not the students fault it’s the nasty horrid government and lack of funds.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-50138612

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Does anyone listen to Classic FM at breakfast time ? Well if you do – you’ll be getting John humphreys soon .
      You’ll be happily listen to a piece of Mozart and Humphreys will stop it , start it , talk over it , repeat bits of it and drone on and on just like Toady .

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Oh dear! Poor old poor The Humph. Has he not stashed enough away from his half £mill a year or whatever he got from the Beeb that he’s had to get another job as an old old-age pensioner of 76 years of age. He should be able to enjoy his time pottering in the greenhouse and garden, talking to his arums, begonias and clematis.

        Or is he merely as avaricious and mercenary as the rest of the Beeboids he left behind?

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    • Payne by name says:

      Well, no gain without pain. If they didn’t want to be on the breadline, maybe they shouldn’t have readily jumped into higher education with no plan on how to fund it.

      At least we are training future generations about the value of money and that actions have consequences. At least they learn it before they get a mortgage and see their house repossessed because they didn’t consider how to pay for it.

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  17. angryGloster says:

    This is how we do it: when the BBC charter comes up for review again, in 2027 we all propose that it ends there and then, that the BBC goes commercial for its loot, the liberal elites there have to make their way in life without free public money.
    All it would take would be several thousand people who had applied to contribute to the assessment, as they did at the last one. (I was one, all you have to do is apply). – propose that the BBC is financed by advertisements just like all the other channels, the advertisers then get to decide what programs they are promoted with.
    We list the cases where the news has bee biased, and how their version of ‘impartiality’ works, the way BBC journalism became liberal elite Marxist activism: The plastering of the BBC with all those Race/Sex/Homosexual/Trans stories , where the law has already solved their legal issues decades, even centuries ago. Every day, Radio 4 has several stories on ‘black’ people, as victims, Woman’s hour by far the worst! The main problem will be the adjudication will be by: liberal elite Marxists.
    Sadly its eight years of liberal mush till then.
    and probably after too.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      At the rate that the BBC is losing listeners and viewers, nobody will be watching or viewing by 2027.

      Rather like its sister the EU, both will have died.

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  18. G.W.F. says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-50160088/bame-women-in-the-police-there-aren-t-many-women-of-colour

    BAME women in the police: ‘There aren’t many women of colour’

    Dare I suggest that this may be due to the fact that there are so many BAME women employed by the BBC as actors playing police officers in drama series.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      And notice the remark: “The new recruit now hopes she can represent her community”
      As opposed to, say, one such as “Uphold the law and maintain the peace fairly, objectively, to the best of my ability and without fear or favour”.
      Perhaps she would be better as a social worker or trying to become a local councillor?

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    • Banania says:

      The rest are busy providing work for the police.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      GW
      Is this the Gilet Jaunes that the BBC have consistently chosen to ignore in their “Why you can trust the BBC” reporting?

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  19. Up2snuff says:

    Expect the BBC w/s Editor allowed the inclusion of that final sentence only ‘through gritted teeth’. Doesn’t fit with ‘the abortions and euthanasia for everyone’, policy.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-50102838

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  20. StewGreen says:

    Direct link to video segment where Steve Bray’s sidekick orders a man to stop shouting at Steve Bray cos @Steve’s doing an interview now so will you stop interrupting’ ..via Guido
    … #Irony

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  21. pugnazious says:

    BBC hypocrisy unbounded.

    The BBC has been demanding Boris give Parliament a long time to assess the Withdrawal Agreement…it’s only fair to give them all the time they need isn’t it?

    However….Corbyn was able to immediately state that the deal was worse than May’s and he’d never back it, in other words Labour needs no extra time…doesn’t matter what the deal says Corbyn won’t back it…the BBC’s own Emma Barnett, seconds after it was released, claimed that the deal was the same as May’s and that Boris was claiming the credit for all the hard work May had done, and Nihal also claimed that Parliament needed more time to assess…then seconds later attacked the government minister in the hotseat for there being no impact assessment [er there is…..A 69-page impact assessment (pdf) was published alongside the bill last night. ‘], telling us that a think tank had already managed to do a detailed, get that, a detailed assessment of the deal and worked out we’re all going to be ruined. How is it all these people can pronounce ‘knowledgeably’ on the deal instantly it’s published and yet Parliament needs so much more time?

    Of course it’s just delaying tactics in the hope of stopping Brexit.

    Hammond gave the game away [as if you hadn’t already guessed the gameplan] when he said that the problem was that we couldn’t know what Brexit would look like until the final deal was signed [if and when] at the end of the transition period and thus he couldn’t back any withdrawal deal until he could affirm that outcome was to his liking…..but we’ll not get to that outcome without signing that first withdrawal agreement…thus he continually moves the goal-posts and we never ever leave. Oddly the BBC didn’t pick up on that point.

    SNP, Libdems, Labour will never back the deal and so don’t need more time….the Tories will vote for it…and need no more time to think.

    Everyone knows this so pushing for a delay to assess is a charade designed purely to stop Brexit as long as possible.

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  22. Celtic_Mist says:

    I’m sure others have spotted this, however, –

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Things are getting really fruity . Peston is reporting that labour whips have instructed MPs not to support a call for a general election . Something like 440 MPs need to support the motion

      Then the government is saying that it is effectively going on strike next week

      The madness of the traitor parliament is getting madder .

      Just wait for traitor Bercow to say he is staying on ‘ a bit longer ‘ due to popular demand …

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      • smoogie7 says:

        The thing is Bercow might actually stay on.

        Not because he is popular, but because there are things that he wants to demand…

           22 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Smoog
      There is no doubt that Bercow is a power addict who has caused huge damage to Blighty by being in the wrong place at the wrong time .

      Being a believer in ‘ comes around goes around’ something will come to mr Bercow to reward his behaviour .

      I can imagine BoJo saying he’d die in a ditch before giving Bercow a peerage ….but we know what that means

         15 likes

      • smoogie7 says:

        I doubt that Bercow would be rewarded with anything. He is only there because no one can oust him. He is a disgrace to the right wing and needs to face scrutiny. How can he sleep at night?

           14 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Re Vagina museum.
      Are the tickets for a single entry or can one come and go as they please?

         19 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Sexist according to my other half. She asked what about prostate awareness.
      I told her if she wants to see a building full of dicks the Houses of Parliament are close by.

         23 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I hope this doesn’t give the gays any ideas.

         10 likes

  23. pugnazious says:

    The BBC always parrots Labour’s narrative on Brexit….they say Boris can’t be trusted and the BBC helpfully runs with that continually….Labour says Boris will reduce workers’ rights and environmental regulations and the BBC runs with that….however…the EU will demand that Britain aligns with it if it wants a free trade deal. How do we know? The EU tells us this…..

    Click to access 23-euco-art50-guidelines.pdf

    ‘Given the UK’s geographic proximity and economic interdependence with the EU27, the future relationship will only deliver in a mutually satisfactory way if it includes robust guarantees which ensure a level playing field. The aim should be to prevent unfair competitive advantage that the UK could enjoy through undercutting of levels of protection with respect to, inter alia, competition and state aid, tax, social, environment and regulatory measures and practices. This will require a combination of substantive rules aligned with EU and international standards, adequate mechanisms to ensure effective implementation domestically, enforcement and dispute settlement mechanisms in the agreement as well as Union autonomous remedies, that are all commensurate with the depth and breadth of the EU-UK economic connectedness. ‘

    The BBC also likes to scaremonger about security and defence….the EU not so much…..it’s pretty keen on cooperation…as anyone sensible would think…

    ‘The European Council restates the Union’s determination to have as close as possible a partnership with the UK in the future. Such a partnership should cover trade and economic cooperation as well as other areas, in particular the fight against terrorism and international crime, as well as security, defence and foreign policy.’

    The BBC is lying to us.

       24 likes

    • smoogie7 says:

      The BBC have endorsed Labour and with an election coming there is more of that to come.

      Sadly with a Brexit delay the votes will be split and Corbyn could win. We are close to Marxism and I am not happy with it.

      As for BBC lies their mates at the Guardian have been posting articles again with ‘unnamed sources’

      ‘An MP said this’

      ‘A number 10 source said that’

      Really annoys me when they do that

         20 likes

    • JimS says:

      “Given the UK’s geographic proximity and economic interdependence with the EU27, the future relationship will only deliver in a mutually satisfactory way if it includes robust guarantees which ensure a level playing field.”

      Surely this is a threat? Some friends eh? If the EU is that worried then a ‘no-deal’ Brexit must be a good thing for the UK.

         18 likes

      • Burgsey says:

        …and the organisation that decides whether it is a level playing field….the ECJ.

           11 likes

      • Richard Pinder says:

        Only loonies would want to pay a Billion pounds a month to preserve a trade deficit with the Customs Union on rules set by men in white coats in Brussels. The only reason this doesn’t bankrupt Britain is because we have a trade surplus on WTO rules. But those loonies in Parliament and the Media fear losing control to sanity. Sanity is “No Deal” because WTO rules are much nearer to the rules of unrestricted freedom in commerce than the Customs Union, despite the dogma that the Customs Union is best.

        So “No Deal” is superior to anything else on offer because the loonies in the Tory Party have rejected and not responded to at least three ideas (Canada style, WTO GATT 24 and Standstill) for free trade agreements.

        Therefore any sane person would fear staying in the Customs Union and vote Brexit Party.

           24 likes

  24. Celtic_Mist says:

    She forgot to include the BBC

    I would guess that in today’s digital age that the BBC business model isn’t viable and it’s only the license fee that is keeping it afloat?

       34 likes

    • Payne by name says:

      And what links all of those organisations? A never ending tirade of Anti Trum, pro establishment finger wagging.

      It’s almost like the public are fed up with hearing that nonsense.

         4 likes

  25. Dystopian says:

    “The BritishTribe Next Door” on Channel 4,7
    They have built a house in a Namibian tribal village.
    Scarlett Moffat is there with her family.
    She is showing these African tribal people how we live in the UK.
    The tribal women are skimpily dressed with their breasts on show and they want Scarlet to dress their way. Please Scarlet don’t do it!
    Oh and please don’t encourage their curiosity to come and live as we do in the UK.
    I’m sure Channel 4 think they are saying “hey look these people live their lives in a better way than we do”.
    In fact, in my opinion, it just highlights how our cultures are worlds apart and incompatible.

       31 likes

  26. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Boris Johnson to try for 12 December election”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50174402
    Tories beware, he is only kicking the can down the road to buy more time to get “Tweezer’s Pig with lipstick” deal done. He is also hoping that more project fear from Al Beeb will do the trick.
    If you are a genuine Tory you would vote and support The Brexit Party.
    All the rest are closet “Remainers”. Boris is only a career politician , not a patch on Churchill .
    The only ‘Churchill’ he is mirroring is that nodding dog in the back of your car, the one that use to appear in the insurance adverts.

       22 likes

    • Richard Pinder says:

      The best scientific type definition of the situation I have heard is this: The difference between Boris Johnson and Winston Churchill is that Boris is fixed on ideas and flexible on principles, whilst Winston was fixed on principles and flexible on ideas. Example: The first thing Boris did when he walked into No 10 was to go into the toilet and shine up Theresa’s surrender turd, but Winston did not enter the toilet and shine up Neville appeasement turd. Also Boris did not talk to Nigel about new ideas, whilst Winston was known to push ideas from the lowest of ranks.

         19 likes

  27. Beltane says:

    Quite apart from Ken Loach giving a bravura QT performance in his role as a living anachronism, I’m surprised no one on the panel or the audience had the courage to recognise one simple fact: that Nissan’s long term decisions are based entirely on maintaining the Japanese economy and workforce in a shrinking market, and if that means pulling out of the UK, and Spain, that’s what they will do. Brexit or no Brexit.

       27 likes

  28. taffman says:

    “Ofcom: BBC must do ‘much more’ for young audiences”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50166017
    Why bother , the young aren’t gonna pay the Telly Tax anyway ?
    Its a broadcaster that does not represent the people of Great Britain. Just look at the photos they have used to illustrate the article.
    Make it a subscription funded broadcaster .
    Simples !

       26 likes

    • JimS says:

      “The BBC should better represent the whole of the UK with authentic news and current affairs content that feels relevant and engaging to all audiences,”

      Feelings before facts? So 2019.

         19 likes

  29. Celtic_Mist says:

    Boris broke his promise to the DUP, failed to deliver Brexit by 31 Oct and consequently the Tories will not win a majority in any future election.

    The only hope now of a proper Brexit is with the Brexit Party

       20 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Celtic
      I think Boris has tried to do what he said and has been thwarted by a remainer HoP and the bias legal system – whether one likes him or not..would you prefer May still or Corbyn..the BBC would prefer the latter.
      I think he is somewhat foolish not to work with the Brexit party but then again how do we know he isn’t..

         14 likes

      • smoogie7 says:

        The ironic thing was May was a remainer while Corbyn was Euro-skeptic and even then the BBC took Corbyn’s side in everything.

        The BBC are showing that they are even more left wing than pro remain

           10 likes

  30. Richard Pinder says:

    I think we are now living in a Catch-22 democracy: I want a referendum on whether we want a General Election. If we win the referendum, will Parliament give us a General Election, or will they delay the decision for three years and then replace all future General Elections with referendums on whether we want a General election. Ignoring the result if we vote in favour of a General Election.

       29 likes

  31. JamesG says:

    Maybe it’s time for the media and elite to stop implying that xenophobia is usually something to do with white people:

    “South Africa’s xenophobic attacks: Why migrants won’t be deterred”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49797720

       16 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      James
      Don’t be silly…we all know that somehow the MSM will make it the fault of white something or other..
      I suspect most people of colour in the UK are as sick of all the race baiting as we are , it’s just the virtue signalling white liberals and the privileged Blacks – (e.g Hirsch) that make a living from it who we hear constantly..

         15 likes

  32. Celtic_Mist says:

    I’ve also come to the conclusion that Trump has made too many unforced errors and the Republicans are about to ditch him

       2 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Bill Kristol is a deranged anti-Trump lunatic. Listening to him would be like thinking Heselslime talks sense about Brexit.

      The fact is that Nancy Pelosi has been abusing her position as Speaker of the House (now there’s a theme!), and not following the established procedure on impeachment. She has excluded Republicans from committees, so that all we are hearing is the case for the prosecution That is why Republicans tried to get into the committee rooms yesterday.

      I am sure the House will vote to impeach, purely on political grounds, which is a disgrace. However, if Republican senators go along with it, which I doubt, it would be the end of the Republican party, and mean the loss of the 2020 election.

      I am sure Mike Pence is a competent enough fellow, but he is utterly boring and lacking charisma. Can you imagine 20,000 people turning up to one of his rallies and cheering him to the rafters? There is no way that would ever happen. He would be talking to 20 people in a school gym like Hillary Clinton.

      The entire impeachment charade is a political scam and disgrace. The Democrats have been trying to impeach Trump since before the inauguration. They spent two years doing it with Mueller, and came up with nothing. Then the Ukraine phone call turns up out of nowhere, leaked by a CIA agent we cannot name, for reasons which are all too obvious.

      The swamp want to get Trump, and will bend any law, break any rule and tell any lie to do it. All the Republican senators need to do is support their president. And Bill Kristol can go to hell.

         6 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Celtic Mist:

      You may care to read this:

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doj-russiagate-probe-just-turned-criminal-investigation-nyt

      I rather doubt the BBC is giving it much coverage, but the Justice Department is finally investigating the origins of the Russiagate hoax. This could lead to the top of the FBI and the CIA. These men were working to sabotage the Trump campaign long before he became president. They conspired to get warrants to tap his phones when he was a candidate, which is unheard of, and they conspired to create the phoney evidence which they used to deceive the court to grant the warrants.

      A lot of this leads back to Britain. GCHQ and MI6 were involved, Christopher Steele, who compiled the fake Russia dossier, is ex-MI6 and a cut out. They all thought Trump would lose, and that Hillary would owe them a favour when she won.

      Well she only went and lost, and this is all going to blow up in their faces. The impeachment charade will be exposed as the low level political propaganda it is. Trump is finally draining the swamp. MAGA!

         6 likes

  33. Celtic_Mist says:

    This is from a new BBC article by Roger Harrabin on Trump leaving the Paris Agreement where it doesn’t try to hide its biased opinions –
    /
    The Trump effect
    So far the biggest negative effect of Mr Trump’s stance has arguably been to relax pressure on countries like Brazil and Saudi Arabia to take action of their own.

    Environmentalists say Mr Obama would have acted quickly to press Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro to tackle forest fires in the Amazon, for instance.

    Mr Obama agreed in Paris that the US should take a lead on climate change because it’s contributed far more than any other nation to the greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere.
    /
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50165596

       10 likes

  34. Celtic_Mist says:

    The BBC hates the Republican party as demonstrated in this blasphemous so-called drama –

    It stereotypes US fundamentalist Christian values in a very uncomplimentary manner – aka identity politics. I suspect that the series is really designed to be sold to the US market where Creationists have been at ‘war’ with the ‘Liberal’ Left for many decades. The US is supposed to be the country of free speech but it is well known that in academia the left consistently tries to silence the voices of the right.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0009jc4

       12 likes

  35. Fedup2 says:

    Toady

    Bee lady interviews Diane Abbott . A bit like one of those motorway accidents where people on the over carriageway slow down to have a look .

    ‘We don’t want bojo in power for one minute longer “
    Q “ so you’ll suppprt an election? – the whips last night put out a text saying abstain or vote against “
    A I don’t speak for the whips

    This lady uses words without thought – another Tourette’s job . They’ve desperately tried to stop these crashes by getting her to slow her speech down but it often sounds like an enigma machine before Turing got hold of it .

       26 likes

  36. Celtic_Mist says:

       11 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The year is 2192. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one remembers where this tradition originated, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world.
      For those unable to speak Arabic, translators are at hand to render the PMs words into Chinese. The tourists are excited: in accordance with UN regulations, ordinary people are only allowed one overseas journey per lifetime (although going on the Hajj to Mecca is permitted at any time for believers). The crowds are segregated according to male and female, with a separate section for the dwindling number of Europeans, who are officially designated as genderless in accordance with the wishes of their 21st Century ancestors. African street vendors sell hot drinks and blankets to protect against the bitter cold of a European Summer in these final years before the onset of the expected new Ice Age.

         27 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Ian
        And the prem is still between the Liverpool and the citeh
        And still no one cares about Wimmins footy
        And they’re still repeating ‘omes unda the ‘Amma
        And there is still no comedy
        The tv licences tax is at €4554.15 a quarter or €12000 if you pay annually…

           10 likes

  37. Fedup2 says:

    mail-on-sunday-journalist-gets-suspended-prison-sentence-for-recording-court-case-on-her-iphone.

    Yes a week in jail suspended – for audio recording proceedings and then lieing they had done it . Contempt of court – one law for one and one for TR .

       37 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady 2
      The state broadcaster – linking 39 frozen illegals to the French illegal camps – sends a reporter there who luckily finds a couple of them who speak English .

      The big question – why make this life endangering trip to Blighty rather than stay in the wonderful EU was never asked . Is never asked . Is this because it doesn’t fit with the pro EU narrative of the state broadcaster or is there some other reason ..?

         35 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Angella Johnson, 59, taped *hours* of proof and authorized argument throughout the Southwark crown court case of Gurgana Gueorguieva, who was jailed for nine-and-a-half years for a violent raid on the house of filmmaker Michael Winner’s widow.
      “She (Angella Johnson) accepts, in the heat of the moment as the officer observed, she may have tried to delete one of the recordings. She accepts there was a tussle over handing over the phone afterwards.”

      Angella Johnson, 59, admitted being in contempt of court when she made the audio recording of a case involving “persons of interest” from the public gallery at Southwark crown court on 26 September.

      At a hearing at the Old Bailey, her lawyer Alex Bailin QC offered an apology and said: “Her motive in audio recording the Newton hearing was benign. She wanted to have a complete accurate record of the proceedings in this case and she was concerned that if she was to use shorthand or note-taking she would not be able to keep up and she would not have an accurate record.

      “The truth is this – she was under work pressure.
      When she was confronted by police and an usher, she “panicked”
      https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/oct/23/mail-on-sunday-writer-spared-jail-after-recording-court-hearing-on-phone

         8 likes

  38. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50173577
    BBC NEWS Politics
    2019-10-25 02:00
    “Invasive species: MPs call for a million people’s help”
    “More than a million volunteers are needed to tackle the spread of invasive non-native species in the UK, MPs say.”

    We have been telling you this for 50 years, you low IQ inhabitants of Westminster.
    I volunteer, weapons please MPs, then we will tackle these invaders. Treat them like smallpox.

       20 likes

  39. Guest Who says:

    Imagine one’s surprise.

       11 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      More sh*te paid for by us without our consent by the BBC. Why can’t people see this is divisive and racist – why judge future Icons by the colour of their skin at all..doubt future white icons or Chinese icons are on the list for a film

         22 likes

    • EmptyingDadsShed says:

      Dangerous to have future icons memorialised, what happens if they break the current P.C., left wing, progressive, gender rules

         12 likes

    • Payne by name says:

      Why only black icons? What about asians, can’t they become icons. How disgustingly racist of the BBC.

         2 likes

  40. digg says:

    BBC report

    Drag brought us closer to our immigrant families… double whammy BBC style…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ee0f89ef-cda1-4870-a77d-87c578d2d6c3

       6 likes

  41. digg says:

    BBC report

    Drag brought us closer to our immigrant families… double whammy BBC style…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ee0f89ef-cda1-4870-a77d-87c578d2d6c3

       1 likes

  42. digg says:

    BBC report

    Drag brought us closer to our immigrant families… double whammy BBC style…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ee0f89ef-cda1-4870-a77d-87c578d2d6c3

       2 likes

  43. Foscari says:

    “Strictly” is beginning to morph into a dancing equivalent of
    ” Dr Who” as BIG BROTHER from the diversity dept at the
    BBC gets his, hers, or most likely it’s tentacles into it.
    Don’t be surprised if before long for men dancing with men, women
    dancing with women being the norm. And there will have to be a
    quota for positive discrimination for dancers to have at least one
    leg missing. All of the jury will have to be either ethnic, gay,
    transgender . AND the general public wont be able to vote unless
    the House of Commons approve of i !!

       26 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      “…the diversity dept…”

      It’s everywhere or nowhere. It’s the mission. It is the core and the very foundation of bias as the views of those who disagree aren’t balanced. The bloke on Newswatch said so.

         11 likes

  44. Doobster78 says:

    I caught the Dianne Abbott interview on BBC Breakfast. A lovely cosy chat with Nagga, in fact, Nagga started off with “Morning Dianne” !!! Morning Dianne !!! Really ?? When you do you ever see a BBC presenter saying Morning Savid, Morning Boris, Morning Jacob …. clear bubble lefty BIAS. I am glad someone else picked up on this.

       29 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    Who can’t wait?

       5 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      I wonder if his grandfather got paid the same rate as mr linaker Ltd ?

         11 likes

    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      He’s nothing like my 2 grandfathers then. They’d have battered the anti-British sh*t.

         15 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Just remind me, Gary. What was it they fought for again?
      The very freedom you want to hand back to the EU?

         6 likes

  46. Doobster78 says:

       10 likes

    • Cassandra says:

      The London Evening Standard, 4th February 2019

      “73 per cent of knife offenders and 53 per cent of victims were from a black or ethnic minority background.”

      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/half-of-london-knife-crime-carried-out-by-teenagers-and-children-as-young-as-ten-police-figures-a4056596.html

         13 likes

      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        No real surprise there then, but still good to have confirmation of one’s prejudices!

        The trouble with PC-ism, enforced multiculturalism and mass migration, is that telling the truth becomes “divisive” or even promotion of hate. Hence the Dutch court that ruled that, even though what Geert Wilders had said about Islam was factually true, it was still incitement to hatred to say it. Another example was when Nigel Farage repeated police statistics to the effect that over 90% of ATM crime in the UK (i.e. tampering with them to get people’s cash card details) was done by Romanians. He was criticized for merely restating what was in the public domain. Can statistics be xenophobic or racist?

           5 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      And how many more times more likely that it will be a black person carrying a knife or stabbing someone else who is also black?
      Apparently black lives matter. But not if you’re David Lammy and you can score political points from shit stirring.

         13 likes

      • Cassandra says:

        Have you noticed Dystopian, the photographs used by the MSM to portray criminals who carry knives, they all seem to have something in common. I wonder if you can spot it?
        I mean fairs fair, there’s not a single television commercial that does not containtain a black person, so why should these photographs be any different?

        NINTCHDBPICT000531751408.jpg?w=670

        _108932764_knife.png

        _109127722_mediaitem109127721.jpg

        _105616891_gettyimages-995538638.jpg

           19 likes

        • Dystopian says:

          Yes it has been noted. Positive stories show coloured people, negative stories show white people.
          Perpetrators white , victims coloured.

             15 likes

        • vlad says:

          It’s a variation of the white-van-man phenomenon known as white-hand-man.

          He is responsible for all the crimes in UK and should be reported to the beeb immediately.

          Do not approach.

             13 likes

  47. Doobster78 says:

    No Bias here from Nick !!!

    Yet he still way ahead in the Polls !! Go figure Nick !! These bubble dwellers are CLUELESS !

       27 likes

    • smoogie7 says:

      The BBC are just acting smug before they get into full election mode and back the parties trying to keep us in the EU

         11 likes

    • smoogie7 says:

      The BBC are just acting smug before they get into full election mode and back the parties trying to keep us in the EU

         4 likes

    • vlad says:

      Translation = we hate Brexit, the Tories and Bojo.

         11 likes

      • smoogie7 says:

        Another translation reads – We hate Britain, the west and anything right wing but love the left, liberalism and the EU

           10 likes

        • Dystopian says:

          right
          /rʌɪt/

          adjective
          1.
          morally good, justified, or acceptable.
          “I hope we’re doing the right thing”
          Similar:
          just
          fair
          equitable
          good
          upright
          righteous
          virtuous
          proper
          moral
          morally justified
          ethical
          honourable
          honest
          principled
          lawful
          legal
          Opposite:
          (Left)
          wrong
          unjust

          Far right – even more so.

             7 likes

  48. Sluff says:

    Has anyone else noticed the huge disparity in BBC coverage of
    a. The admittedly awful 39 dead in a lorry trailer being smuggled into the country (blanket coverage, lots on condolences, vigils, sympathetic pressure groups)
    as compared with
    b. The 1 minute tucked away at the end of a news bulletin earlier in the week about the ONS estimate of a 3 million population rise by 2028.

    Just think. If we had proper border security we could solve two problems at once. Not that the BBC would agree to the concept of a border, of course.

       22 likes

  49. Sluff says:

    Caught a trailer on BBC World. Yet another feature on women, that is opinion-forming women. Now most, even if wrong-headed, did speak fluently as if they had their own brain.
    But then the BBC feature Greta Thumberg.
    She speaks only and entirely in pre-programmed robotic cliches. The juxtaposition, clearly lost on the BBC trailer editors, was very clear.

    It’s as if she is not actually human but in fact a prototype android that needs a good deal more work.
    I wonder who has paid for the work so far?

       11 likes