195 Responses to THE END IN SIGHT?

  1. JamesG says:

    I’m actually feeling sad – not that the licence fee is going to be abolished (hopefully) — but that the relatively impartial BBC of the 1980s and early 1990s that I grew up with no longer exists. If it did still exist, we wouldn’t have a situation where most people are calling for the licence fee to be abolished. They’ve sown the seeds of their own destruction by giving up on that impartiality over the last 20 years or so.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      In the 80’s and 90’s the corporation was run by mature men who had grown up during the war (work out the maths), so had a different ‘take’ on things. It is now their grandchildrens generation who are running the whole shebang – the generation who ‘know their rights’ – (from a post earlier), so cannot be told anything and only their way is the right way. AND it wont get any better, as the upcoming generation cant see any further than their smart phone.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    Lewis has chipped in. That helps somewhere between Polly and Sweeney!

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  3. Guest Who says:

    World class editorial integrity.

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  5. TrickCyclist says:

    It was often alleged that the Broadcasting Act 1990 was brought about to end Thames TV’s franchise because of Margaret Thatcher’s displeasure at the channel’s “Death on the Rock” documentary. Is Boris going to do the same for the BBC?
    Those currently circling the wagons to defend the BBC as “the world’s greatest public service broadcaster” – have they watched BBC TV lately? At least Thames made some decent progammes when it was replaced by the inferior Carlton TV. BBC drama – EastEnders, Doctor Who, Holby City – is a benchmark for awfulness and contains the same political bias as it’s news output. BBC comedy? Switching channels and accidentally finding Live at the Apollo or one of their panel shows is like walking around a corner and finding yourself confronted by a bunch of aggressive charity muggers. As for the BBC’s much trumpeted successes, such as the top Christmas ratings for Gavin and Stacey – well, I’ve never watched the programme or heard a single acquaintance mention it in conversation.
    I’m not attracted to anything on Netflix or Amazon, either – I’d like to watch less TV, not more. I’m from the TV generation and often switch on out of habit (even sometimes watching EastEnders, which is how I know how truly terrible it is). Young people do not have the same habit. Many retired people spend most of their time on the internet.
    Abolish the BBC. No-one with any sense will care.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      If you want to watch something superior to anything on the BBC, this Sunday night.

      8pm (Channel 5) Rob Bell walks the lost railways of the North East and visits Beamish.
      9pm (Channel 81) Bruce Forsyth and Norman Wisdom at the London Palladium.
      10pm (Channel 81) The Boys From Brazil: Josef Mengele creates 94 clones of Hitler.
      11pm (Channel 57) Aerial Britain flies over the Scottish Highlands.

      The top program on the BBC tonight, is an Orwellian comedy.

      Travel with the TARDIS (Transgender And Racial Diversity In Space) and experience a true story about a Transgender Doctor, who inspires Mary Shelley to create the scientist Victor Frankenstein. Also see one of the Doctors Racially Diverse Assistants inspire Mary Shelley to create the hideous creature made by Victor Frankenstein.

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  6. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I see ‘The Big Question’ has been back on our screens for the last 4 weeks.
    I watched today’s show and would advise you to give it a miss, especially if you have blood pressure issues.

    The 2 topics started with one about the deportations (this Jamaica lot)
    Should we be ashamed, is it the right thing to do (and most of the mainly non white audience thought these people should be allowed to stay)
    The couple who didn’t agree were interrupted by Nicky and others as well as Nicky pushing one particular case (phone theft) and brushing over all the murderers and rapists.
    Steven Woolfe talked sense (when allowed to speak) but it was mainly the usual lefty rubbish.

    Then, a question about defining Islamophobia and again the lefty majority were given a very easy ride.
    Anyone trying to make a point which didn’t fit in with the bbc islamophile view was quickly talked over, interrupted, or at the end drowned out with Nicky encouraging everyone to talk at once.
    Of course, the far right were mentioned (as if leaving a sausage roll in the same street as a mosk was equal to blowing up little girls at a pop concert)

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  7. Dover Sentry says:

    The Guardian:

    “‘Fighting like ferrets in a bag’ as EU tries to plug Brexit cash hole.”

    “UK’s withdrawal has left £62bn hole in bloc’s purse for the next seven years ”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/16/stressed-heads-to-start-brussels-budget-talks-post-brexit?fbclid=IwAR08gILWgaxNVPjY8wfa6n7QRMl-zS74hD9MrYtTu2T2M-PJuOGtJG1nWac

    What a pity. How sad. Never mind. 🙂

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Maths, and up-to-date news, obviously not one of the Guardian’s strong points. How similar to the BBC!

      The new EU Budget round, if I recall correctly, would have been wanting a £20bn to £22bn contribution for Year 1 had the UK remained and the likely escalator was again 2% to 2.5% per annum. For the last five year Budget (not sure where Guardian gets seven years from), the EU bosses were after a 5% Escalator but ‘Call me Dave’ and Boy George put their foot down and said no. I would not be surprised if the EU was after a 5% annual Escalator again.

      We are a bit off-topic for the Thread but as you say DS, “Never mind.”

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  8. Up2snuff says:

    I listened to part of the Radio4 7am News with amusement today. The BBC in full dishonesty mode.

    Am relying on memory but it went something like this. The rumour from Downing Street, that the BBC would have to give up the Licence Fee and rely on subscriptions in future was reported as part of the newspaper review. This was followed immediately by the statement that the BBC was immensely popular with the public with a 90% approval rating.

    Now what was the question asked?

    If I recall correctly, a recent polling of the general public (cannot remember which Research/Polling Company) had 67% of respondents wanting the Licence Fee scrapped.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      I think we can expect further character assassination on number 10 and anyone stamped as Tory – they ll desperately look for dissenters to start ‘cracks ‘ in the Party / government – particularly so if there are signs of a real attempt to change the BBC as opposed to newspaper talk.

      Our side could do with a BBC scandal to further undermine it ..

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      • Not Gwent says:

        I agree that a ‘real attempt’ to move State Broadcaster to subscription is still not on the agenda.

        My suspicion is that a premium service will be offered in return for a capped fee plus free for the over 75s?

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        • Up2snuff says:

          NG, would not be surprised if the BBC try to wriggle out and go for the Licence Fee being given up but a substantial amount to be added to Council Tax bills to finance the BBC that way.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, quite so, am sure they will. It will be important if some of us have Labour MPs to let them know how we feel about the BBC. That will help to spread the pressure around Parliament a bit.

        The BBC attack on the Crown Prosecution Service this morning was so strong that I wondered if they would be trying to knobble Keir Starmer, former CPS head, in his Labour leadership bid. I noticed on Friday or Saturday that in News Bulletins, despite Der Starmer being the front runner, Rebecca Long-Bailey was named first, followed by Starmer and then Nandy.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2
          I don’t know anything about the ms flack stuff but I understand that it was a ‘domestic violence ‘ charge against her . The BBC and others have banged on about Domestic violence for ages – but mainly seeing it as ‘women as victim ‘ . Therefore the policy on prosecution has led to zealous prosecution of those accused – like ms Flack – who may turn out to be a victim of that mindset /policy .
          The bubble will occupy itself with that case for a while until something else distracts them ….. kidults .

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Didn’t intend to distract you off topic, Fed, not that this lot can stay on topic for long 😉 🙂 but what I really noticed was the vehemence used about the CPS. I took that as a sign of their political chicanery that will be applied to all sorts of things, not just the LF, the Labour leadership but also things like the Budget, US Pres.Elections, etc., etc.

            I think the BBC has become a monster and it will be difficult to get it dealt with but the longer it is put off, the worse it will become.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Up2
            I can’t think of any Labour MPs who would come out against the BBC – quite a few decent ones lost their seats and largely Corbynites remain – hence the limited shower contending for the leadership and deputy spot .
            I think Labour is neither in ‘reflecting ‘ or ‘listening ‘ mode and the best it can do at the moment is question who paid for Bojos holiday in Mustique / mistake . They’ll probably link it to Andy Windsor / Epstein .

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Yes, but just think Fed, if you have a story of BBC cruelty and personal hardship to tell and your MP is a Labour MP or some other variety and you have told them about it, they cannot then say ‘I think the BBC is wonderful, I haven’t heard a voice against it.’.

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        • Nibor says:

          Up2
          I thought the BBC would love Keir Starmer as he is a trougher like themselves .
          The Labour Prty was set up to represent and further the interests of the worker .
          By the eighties it had drifted off course and was more interested in furthering the cause of minorities and social excluded .
          Now it’s beached on furthering the nests of international organisations , university lecturers , Bilderburgers , Common Purpose , public sector Chiefs , charities , pressure groups , and any other Gramscian filled organisation .
          That’s why I thought a trougher like Der Starmer was their man .

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Nibor, yes, me too. That’s why I noticed the ‘(re)arranged order’.

            The BBC could possibly be trying to downplay his success so as to not appear too ‘Neil Kinnock’ (nudge, nudge, wink wink) or it could be the Beeb feel that if they promote the trougher over the Socialist no-hoper they will attract more enemies among the general public and eventually the MPs.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      90% approval rating? I don’t remember being asked?

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Up3snuff they quoted the Times
      “Polls show the BBC retains high approval ratings with more than 80% of voters. ”

      They don’t say where these polls come from

      Anyone who believed such polls wouldn’t have a problem with the BBC going subscription would they ?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Quite right, Stew. Depends of course at what subscription level is set: I gather from a previous Thread on here that a combined Netflix/Amazon thingy is £13 per month approx . That’s Licence Fee territory. If the Beeb try it on at that figure, then, thanks but no thanks. They won’t get me back, even if I have to go hunt for a radio station somewhere digital.

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        • Lefty Wright says:

          Up2snuff
          They can set the subscription at a half a crown a month and I would still not watch. To my mind the BBC output is one big social training exercise, with the rest of the mind benders not far behind.
          I received my social training in the 1940s and 1950s from far better teachers than the mass media produce today and that training is still valid today thank you very much.. With a few notable exceptions, the MSM can get knotted as far as I’m concerned because they neither entertain or inform. They lack talent and honesty.

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  9. Guest Who says:

    Misinformation? From the BBC? Can it be?

    Plus… a blast from the past.

    https://tv-licensing.blogspot.com/2020/02/tv-licence-publicity-sparks-fresh-wave.html?

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Countryside a special on Diversifying
    .. cos the BBC think current industrial farming is wrong
    “Diversification is the name of the game”

    .. This episode will feature repeats of old examples
    New item a farmer in Essex being paid to let the sea breach the wall and flood pasture to make it a salt marsh.

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    • Deborah says:

      No doubt the sea breaching the wall is due to climate change. They did say that, didn’t they? (I wasn’t watching, just predicting).
      They said on the Radio 4 6pm news that the Environment Agency (or is it the Met Office? I try to get it right because I know Maxi would correct me) was the highest ever issued, implying climate change is having an affect. They can issue any number of warnings, but unless followed up with actual flooding, a warning is meaningless. We are never told what triggers a warning, whether they have changed the balance of probability, whether they take into account the ruddy great new housing estates being built up the road or even just the number of people covering their front gardenon which to park their 4×4.

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Just noticed this is currently lurking on the Complaints page.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaint/horriblehistoriesbrexit

    The song accurately reflects the fact that many goods common in Britain during the Victorian era were harvested or produced by slaves in other countries. The contribution Britain made to ending the slave trade prior to this period has been featured in other Horrible Histories episodes.

    No mention of those pointing out the blatant inaccuracies.

    And the ‘we mentioned over… oo, look, squirrel’ attempt is as risible as ever.

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  12. Oldspeaker says:

    So with the bbc having such a high approval rating whats the issue?
    Personally I find most of it’s content dull and of no interest, some of it I find offensive, why should I be forced by law to pay for it?
    But according to the poll I’m in a minority, in that case with a head start on subscriber base and high popularity the bbc is ready for the market, it would then be free to increase its subscription rate to cater for any shortfall. Those currently compelled by law to fund the bbc could stop doing so without the threat of capita harassment.
    Everyone wins.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2020/02/just-one-more-thing.html

    The #purposesof exemption is even more pathetic than #viewsmyown for BBC individuals to avoid being held to account, a claim they are making at others a lot without irony.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    Earlier someone mentioned the BBC’s odd commitment to economy (not class) and Gretarrific planet saving when it comes to pond-jumping to engage in some TDS-relief.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2020/02/a-bakers-dozen.html

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  15. G.W.F. says:

    I wonder if there will be a mass demonstration in favour of maintaining the licence fee for the worlds most prestigious broadcaster. I hope one is called as it would be interesting to see how the pictures measure up to the estimate of the crowd

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    • taffman says:

      G.W.F.
      Doubt there will be a mass demonstration but you can bet maxincony or the like will start a petition.
      BTW, has Al Beeb covered the end of the Telly Tax yet ? Will they risk a “Have Your Say” on the subject ?

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      • taffman says:

        Yep, a mate of mine has just emailed me to let me know there is a petition running already, it has been started by a certain Robin Priestley on 38 Degrees.

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  16. Richard Pinder says:

    More evidence of the scientific ignorance at the heart of the BBC Complaints Unit. The BBC says that Vaccine critics are a virus. This uneducated view was the opinion of David Grossman who is currently a correspondent for the BBC in America.

    Its not just Climate scientists fighting the morons at the BBC. An exchange of letters between Professor Chris Exley and the BBC complaints director Colin Tregear, once the Project Director at the BBC Weather Centre and great friends of the Trans, Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual community.

    BBC Newsnight says that all vaccines are 100% safe and that only uneducated people think otherwise. The letter reveals that like Climate science, the BBC invites scientifically uneducated experts with no background in vaccine safety. Just people paid by the taxpayer to spread the opinion of bureaucrats and politicians.

    Professor Exley says that the majority of vaccines include an aluminium salt as an adjuvant. The latest research highlights the toxicity of aluminium in vaccines and its role in many of the serious adverse events reported in individuals following vaccination. The frequency of such adverse events (data from the vaccine manufacturers) is acknowledged to be as high as two and a half percent, which equates to twenty-five thousand healthy people per million recipients becoming ill following vaccination. Displays of lies or at best ignorance as occurred throughout this Newsnight piece are not what is needed to improve the safety and success of vital vaccines.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Jane Martinson – a Guardianista – has written a worried sounding piece today concerning apparent plans to change the BBC . She says the BBC must ‘regain public trust ‘ – which should be encouraging in our campaign to destroy the BBC – an admission like that in the printed part of the BBC .

      I wonder what the BBC could do to ‘ regain public trust ‘? Perhaps closing down its propaganda / news department would be a start. Kill off Marr, newsnight , panorama , daily politics – they’ll only be pumping out anti Tory poison until the next election and have all been shown to be against the views and votes of the non London British TV taxpayers

      There’ll be plenty of the likes of Martinson writing BBC defence pieces in coming days and weeks .

      Good morale boost for this site . After the BBC there’s a need to stop taxpayers money being used to buy newspapers – like the Guardian – after all – the Guardian describes it as a ‘war’ so let it be one .

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Richard is there anything new ?
      AFAIK that stuff was dealt with in November 2018.

      Bottomline vaccines are so safe the society risk is way lower than the benefits.
      With the risk of serious harm being way less than one in a million.

      About the claim that someone says the risk is zero, someone is either misrepresenting what someone said to be able to attack.
      OR if they did make the claim it is provably wrong
      Cos the NHS has a vaccination compensation scheme that pays out a couple of times a year.
      I think that is about once in every 30 million vaccinations or something.

      https://www.ageofautism.com/2018/11/the-bbc-vaccine-critics-are-a-virus.html

      https://fullfact.org/online/vaccine-damage-fund/

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      • NameNotNumber says:

        ‘two times a year’ Stew?

        ‘The government response to the FOI request states that between 1978 and April 2017, 936 claims for a vaccine damage payment have been successful, with the total payout coming to £74,130,000.’
        https://fullfact.org/online/vaccine-damage-fund/

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        • StewGreen says:

          Can’t you read ?..how many payouts were there between April 2017 and May 2019 …?
          Five

          Of course the earlier figure was bigger cos it is skewed by the payouts in the 1970s

          And what’s the point in posting the same Fullfact link that I posted in my post ?

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          • NameNotNumber says:

            Perhaps you should read your own post, (where does it say between 2017 and 2019?) similarly your own link.

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            • StewGreen says:

              Read the Fullfact link @NameNotNumber cos it does say that about 2017-2019
              Seems I read it fully and you didn’t
              … preferring the confirmation bias of a large number that doesn’t reflect the pattern of recent years
              .. Do you really think I made the five number up ?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Richard, you are quite right, the big pharma producing these vaccines go to some trouble to put a piece of paper in with the ampules (as they do with any drug including the humble aspirin) that the GP, the practice nurse and the patient should all read. It will detail all sorts of things including (probably) an estimate of the proportion of recipients per 100,000 who may suffer some reaction, an adverse reaction or a severe reaction.

      I’ve nearly been killed by a couple of GPs in the distant past, so the more recent ones tend to be extremely careful to check before prescribing anything for me.

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  18. Deborah says:

    Just watching Ski Sunday. Thought it was an agenda free zone. Bit they have just had a woman say that climate change is undeniable and there has to be care in the mountains. Just for emphasis she has just repeated climate change. Apparently some people have made a film about it and she has just repeated Climate change for the third time. Last week there was a section about taking severely disabled young people skiing in Europe. CC been mentioned 3 more times while I was typing this. I give up.

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    • StewGreen says:

      I caught a glance of the show
      the downhill competition seemed to being shot from a helicopter.

      Twitter noticed

      and in this thread 3 other people echo him

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      • StewGreen says:

        Someone replied to them
        – Telegraph : American ski resorts to stay open until July
        – Web results : Australia’s Perisher Ski Resort is extending to October 13.

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  19. tvlicensingblog says:

    Yes David, I genuinely believe the end is in sight. Early indications are that this is a Government of action, not words.

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  20. Nibor says:

    Next weeks programmes on the BBC

    Thursday’ s Question Time . One audience member asks
    Are the BBC and its apolologists circling the wagons about the licence fee ?

    In Business (BBC2) can the Beeb survive outside its bubble in the real business world ?

    Moral Maze ; is it right to try to force everyone to pay for something they don’t agree with . Is the BBC ethical with its threatograms ?

    Science Today ; how subscription and other ways are used to pay for broadcasting , the new generation of broadcasting and Internet , the choices that should be available .

    In Our Time ; a historical look at the Wireless and Telegraphy Act 1948 and how it affects our lives today .

    CBBC : why public service broadcasting is so important and everyone should pay for it , how it gives your young minds the truth , why only Nazis hate the BBC , why anyone the BBC doesn’t like is a Nazi , the parallel between Josef Goebbels and those who couldn’t care less about the BBC , Trump ,write and tell us how you like the BBC , what will you do to save the BBC .

    Except for the last , I made those up . But you knew that .

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Nibor you forgot to say that Nish Kumar will present the CBBC show

      And that Countryfile will have a report
      where Tom Heap will talk around the large number of licence fee abstainers in the countryside
      and conclude that it correlates with people being Far Right.

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    • Fred Stubber says:

      The Wireless Telegraphy Act was 1947 not 1948.

      Fred

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  22. Guest Who says:

    There is something about Mary.

    Is it… the chekky?

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    • JimS says:

      Anyone who has ever responded to a government, (of whatever colour), ‘consultation’ will find that it is always a case of choosing from the options that have been proposed.

      Indeed there can be a whole set of consultation documents that need to be read before one can even properly respond, i.e. “Which of the options set out in Schedule 4a of Consultation Paper 5 do you prefer?” And then Schedule 4a will say “Option 1: The scheme set out on Schedule 2 of Consultation Paper 3; Option 2: The scheme set out in Annex 6 of Consultation Paper 4 or Option 3: The scheme set out in Annex 7 of Consultation paper 4.

      Essentially they are just going through the motions.

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  23. Nibor says:

    Sorry if this has been highlighted before .
    But I’ve just started reading the Sunday Times article and it paraphrases Sir (trougher – Keir Starmer friend ? ) David Clemanti .
    ” he argued that a move to a subscription model would mean a loss of earnings for the BBC that would lead to POPULAR programmes being axed and that the introduction of Netflix style payments could result I the loss of ” public service ” programming in a race to attract paying viewers ”
    ie they would axe ” populist ” shows so that they could broadcast — populist shows —- so that the populists pay them ?!?!?
    So it looks like the ” high brows ” subsidise the “low brows ” under the current subsidy scheme at Al Beeb which shouldn’t be changed because otherwise the “low brows ” would just be paying for what they want without subsidy and the high brows wouldn’t get their shows what the low brows pay for unless they went to a subscription service but it might not pay .
    That is a ” unique ” payment method .

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    Poor Mary , worried about her regular source of income – TV taxpayers ‘ money being reduced or ended ? There’ll be plenty on the gravy train popping up…. I somehow think that the overpaid such as Linaker might stay out of this as he has seen how much influence he carries with regard to brexit ….. stick to the crisps and the prem Gary ….

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  25. Philip_2 says:

    Front page of the Telegraph (business section) is a move to rename the RBS Bank to Nat West. As a former Nat West customer myself – I moved bank (many years ago) well before RBS was exposed as being a bit ‘dodgy’ financially and I was proved right when RBS became the biggest banking failure in the UK history. (it was all based in Scotland, and Scotland could not bale out its own bank), not now and not then either. It had to be bailed out by the UK government as Scotland is part of the UK. I mention this because RBS was (considered) too BIG to fail – and so HMG had no choice but to bail it out. It was ‘Nationalised’ and we still,own 62% of what its now worth. It will survive under a new name Nat West, (which was ‘goodish’ bank before RBS got its mucky hand on it..

    When the US bonds went tits up with the junk bonds schemes (chasing easy money from poor blacks who could not afford a mortgage (being promised that you never need to pay it off). That was the root cause of the US banking crisis. RBS was not the ONLY one to loose Billions. Icelandic Bank suffered as well and recovered quickly. RBS took a very long time, it was too BIG to fail when the money ran out.

    The BBC is also too BIG to fail when the money runs out. It has had warnings before to stop the reliance on taxpayer money (but )- under Lord Hall’s watch, he went native and BBC salaries went up, now matching the top financiers of RBS. We are talking over 20 to 200 who have £1miilion pound + salaries (some over £2 million) and many more hidden away on ‘BBC WORLDWIDE’ which is the takeover vehicle when the BBC finally hits the financial wall next Charter.

    Its uncanny that the same salaries in top UK financial companies are mirrored in the BBC. Whereas the BBC claims they have to pay ‘top’ talent’ when many of these people are overpaid civil-servants – who have never worked commercially – or had a job outside the BBC. What skills they have (or think they have) will never be tested until the BBC runs out of money. Its clear it cannot raise any more money from the TV license fee, its costs are rocketing and its market is falling. Its set up to be the biggest financial failure in UK media history, but that won’t happen either because, we the UK taxpayers will end up paying for it as we will have to bail it out for ‘national prestige’ reasons before the next Charter fixture in 2027.

    Its a distinct possibility based on its own BBC projections and BBC expansions plans that are just as dodgy and speculative as RBS was then. Nobody wants to buy a TV license and the imposed criminality factor is the only thing keeping it propped up.

    Now RBS changes its name to Nat West and is about to drastically ‘downsize’ by ridding itself of multi-million pound salaries (overheads) and bonuses (that still exist in the BBC) which also has no plans to ‘downsize’ the media monopoly which we all know wastes £ millions (if not 3.9 Billions of Taxpayer pounds annually).

    From The Guardian perspective (2018). RBS were TOXIC brands.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/11/ten-years-rbs-toxic-brand

    Probably more news on this tomorrow morning… Could not find Telegraph link to confirm that top (BBC style) salaries are being axed at RBS, but it’ll be in Mondays editions.
    https://news.sky.com/story/state-backed-rbs-finalises-plan-for-305m-bonus-pot-11923493
    Sunday Times: (Jobs for the Girls) – losses what losses?
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/royal-bank-of-london-rbs-boss-alison-rose-is-queen-of-the-south-vv9t2f9tz

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Re the Sunday Times
    It is quite interesting that the Woke-supremacists of the BBC going subscription.
    The thing is now that The Times is SUBSCRIPTION
    and the vast majority of its staff are Woke-mob
    .. so the comments beneath its articles are incredible as the majority of Times readers are able to call out so many aspects of their news stories
    .. The proportion of Pro-Brexit , anti-GreenDream , anti-woke commenters in times comments is similar to those on the BBC HYS when the BBC opens comments.

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  27. Fedup2 says:

    I dipped into ‘The Westminster Hour ‘ – which used to have some genuinely informative themes . Now it is a London bubble
    Talking shop of rumours and the likes of criminals like Vicki Price ? – economist and former significant other of ex pompous politician Chris Hune – delivering her judgement on the new government – and every one is gunning for Dom ….. off switch .

    And with that I close this busy thread and move into Monday as the Paul scholfield ? story is now linking to the TV lady who killed herself …..

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  28. Guest Who says:

    Do we get a Boom Boom from Basil? Or Emily and Katty?

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  29. Guest Who says:

    Clive weighs in.

    #CCBGB

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  30. Guest Who says:

    Of course, an endless line of entitled luvvies on Joe, a lefty twat site, really is going to help.

    Will these barricades be XR style ones, turning back ambulances but letting Jon Sopel’s Fiat 500 through to park in the airport short term?

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  31. Guest Who says:

    Bingo!

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  32. Guest Who says:

    Another bbc pensioner chips in.

    I wonder what he claimed?

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  33. Guest Who says:

    When in hole, prove why you are in it.

    https://twitter.com/samwhitetky/status/1229271058789724160?s=21

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  34. Guest Who says:

    £100,000,000 of wasted money is a bbc magic number already.

       4 likes