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I know Russian and in my yoof I used to read the Soviet press and watch Soviet TV sometimes. They were pretty boring, and actually the BBC has gone the same way, for some reason they have binned most of the fine general interest Discovery Channel-style content that they used to do decades ago, and that they could still do today if they chose to, at quite low cost. Nowadays they are pretty much an Identity Politics Channel plus minor celebrities taking part in baking competitions, which I guess may be interesting to devotees of identity politics or cake baking? But surely not to the general public. Anyway, it was heartening to see the way Russian journalism flourished after the fall of Communism, it was like a switch from monochrome to colour.
…while the beeb have moved to black and white.
Stew
I take it we have to wait longer for a breakdown of locations , ages , pre existing conditions and the like … as these sad numbers are rapidly increasing . ….
The government 5pm briefings are starting to get a bit stale – in my view – and not explaining well Enough … in fact there is now a b s bingo chart of key phrases being parroted each day like ….
Ramp up
Arms around
Doing our best
And the like – this sounds poor form but if the government NHS hasn’t got to grips with testing and kit by now they deserve a kicking ….
We don’t know where the cases are being found so those who are really affected can take better precautions.
Yes I’ll take a look tomorrow I was doing other things.
I left the village and went into the small town radiation zone.
I went to Tescos at 3pm ..despite the airport style taping, there was no queue I was asked to alcohol rub down and enter.
They had clearly got too much bread ad a lot was already discounted . Eggs were low . Milk was fine ..low on bog roll , but no cornflakes.
The council have banned the street market tmw cos they will always says “no” cos their priority is covering their arse.
The market was OK last week and is rarely crowded even on a normal day.
I don’t buy the BBC idea that “testing testing” is a magic solution
They keep giving it as an explanation but I am not sure it stands up to scrutiny.
To balance the ‘snarky’ BBC coverage of Trump –
The Timeline of How Bill de Blasio Prepared New York City for the Coronavirus
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/the-timeline-of-how-bill-de-blasio-prepared-new-york-city-for-the-coronavirus/
CCP propaganda sounds exactly like Beijing Broadcasting Corporation
It’s day 2 of week 2 of the three week initial lockdown period. I often switch from Radio 4 to Radio Cambridgeshire (BBC local) for reasons which have often been aired here.
Lately I have been listening more than usual to Radio Cambs. It’s probably the same with all the local stations that they seem to have taken it upon themselves to inform, enable charitable efforts, finger wag and CHEER UP. Lots of phone ins and experts can be interesting.
On one level all this is quite commendable but I don’t think I can stand it much longer.
At what point do changes in business or technology make the BBC irrelevant? The viewing/listening figures for the BBC although falling still seem very high, compared with the now tiny viewing figures for, say, the major news channels in the US, whose figures would embarrass a regional broadcaster in the UK. It’s a puzzle. Sorry, probably a bit of a newbie question.
This made me laugh, but….
But sadly true.
https://youtu.be/ZcL1_PkM368
Police have been using excessive powers during lockdown
G.W.F.
BOOM BOOM!!! Love it.
17.00 Beijing Broadcasting Corporation –
‘UK is carrying out trials of the drug remdesivir’
One has to go to the website and all the way to the bottom of the article to find
“US researchers have begun a trial to see if the malaria drug, chloroquine, will help treat coronavirus.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52111674
That is linked to their earlier article –
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/51980731
Which was written to rubbish Trump
I switched on late for the daily briefing. I don’t know whether what was said was right or wrong but it seemed very professional and the Minister and head of PHE seemed on top of their brief.
Then came the questions. It would appear to have been collusion amongst the journalists because they could only ask about testing whilst not even beginning to think about why people should be tested and what difference it would make to how things are handled. They tried to pin the government down to seeing into the future so they could be attacked at a later date (just short of ‘Minister, you said the last case would be on 1May at 3.05 and it is 3.06 and we have had another one) They all tried to compete as to how cross they could sound. They seem to have a competition to see how many questions they could weave into one. Robert Peston won that one because he asked so many I lost count.
The competition they all won equally was how stupid could they make themselves look. Not only were they joint winners on that but they scored very highly.
Deborah
TV journalists? I view them all with equal contempt and I never listen to what they spout. I’m afraid they are infected with a Left Wing virus which,left unchecked, will eventually seriously brain damage the whole human race. I was once so infected until the Blair regime – unwittingly I’m sure – found a way to cure my illness. For that, I will always be grateful to the New Labour comrades.
Sometimes it’s the throwaway remarks that give the game away.
Reference the testing situation, increasingly being shown to be a fiasco.
On the bBBC 1 6 pm news.
In answer to the Coronavirus (lack of) testing problems, we hear this, that ‘Ministers are open to suggestions from the private sector’.
FFS!!!!!
It is precisely that appalling patronising unwillingness to engage, that fear built up by years, decades of groupthink aversion to the contribution of the private sector in healthcare, fuelled by the Far Left and the BBC, that Is responsible for the sclerotic, one-paced current response to the crisis of ‘the world’s finest healthcare system’.
If ever there was a glaring example of the inherent defects of nationalisation, this is it. But from the BBC……….silence, except of course for trying to blame the government…..which may be valid, but isn’t enough.
Very good point.
I am getting proper sick of listening to the BS at these briefings now.
When all this is over there should be a proper stewards enquiry into the Chinese virus, how, where and when it started and how proportionate and appropriate the response was.
Within that the chain of response should also be interrogated. My guess is that there is a huge swathe of middle and senior managers in the NHS, local govt, civil service etc. Who just aren’t up to the task of doing something thoroughly and quickly.
My guess, having known and socialised with many in the public sector, is the better you can hide the further up the ladder you get. This manifests itself in NHS paying top dollar for its supplies due to a lack of commercial savvy and those supplies taking forever to get to where they need to go, hence the army having to step in.
Add to that the inability of local governments to get government aid to businesses as necessary and the veil begins to lift on the inadequacy of those that suck on the taxpayer teat.
Just as China needs to be dealt with when all this is over, there needs to be root and branch reform of all public sector organisations.
I’m not holding my breath…
It was the same in WW2. I recall reading or hearing in the World at War series that Churchill often had to call in Civil Servants or military leaders (even Generals and Admirals) and bang their heads together and say “I want this done, in this way – now!”
It used to be said in the world of information technology that, “No-one gets fired for buying IBM”, i.e, the biggest and best known company at the time.
The Civil Service makes up its own language, (see Yes Minister!). My favourite was ‘value for money’. The poor MPs on the Select Committees thought that meant getting a bargain.
The PUS would stand before them and swear blind that ‘his’ department achieved ‘value for money’, despite the doubts of the MPs. The PUS knew that ‘value for money’ was defined and assured by a clause in his own contracts manual that required him to obtain three quotations and choose the one that ‘best met the assessment criteria’.
Of course there was no guarantee that he had gone to the best people for the quotations. The winner could well have been selected for having the nicest looking ‘equality and diversity’ policy manual!
What an amazing piece of tv that was up2, itv wasn’t it? Couldn’t imagine beeb or itv making anything like it today, as for Churchill, well, they had a Churchill and we have a Boris. From different forges altogether, I’m just hoping Boris has hidden qualities.
BBC1 6 pm news shows a ‘4×4’ of photos of selected coronavirus victims.
Since the BBC is so ‘impartial and respected’ then what they showed must be totally valid.
In which case, if I was BAME or female I would be VERY worried !
Whereas being a white male, I think I can relax.
Unless of course the BBC has been deliberately, perhaps maliciously, deceitful.
Just found out that an emergency mortuary is being built on Wanstead Flats – walking distance from where i live in London It’s about a mile from the awful local hospital and 3 miles from the excel hospital .
I’m guessing people won’t be walking their dogs around there much anymore .
On my sums over 300 of the dead reported today were in London …
I understand that more mortuaries are being constructed – perhaps that should have been mentioned in the Dire government briefing ….
The number of BBC staff taking sick leave because of Mental Health issues has almost gone up four fold in five years. Five years ago, 125 BBC staff took sick leave due to feelings of going insane. Now it is reported that 474 loonies at the BBC have taken 18,562 days off sick, due to feelings that the BBC is making them go mad.
Most BBC staff are worried by fears that they will die due to Atmospheric warming exceeding one Kelvin or Britain going the same way as the Belgian Congo, due to not being ruled from Brussels. Those that go “INSANE” pretend that they are not worried by Islamic terrorism or Chinese Flue. This is the BBC ideology that causes the insanity.
They have also censored the Nigel Farage show, again. Freeview channel 732 says “No Signal”
RP,
I suppose half of the problem is believing two diametric views at one and the same time .
Such as we have a housing shortage and unlimited immigration are not connected .
This is why they become fruitcakes .
And that must unhinge them even more because fruitcakes are Brexiteers .
Radio 4 at 5.55 and Evan Davis is playing a piece of music selected by listeners to help them cope. Today the piece chosen was La Mer sung in French. The listener explained she like this to remind her when she and her husband just 3 weeks ago would drive up to the coast to listen to the sea. Her husband has Alzheimer’s and couldn’t understand what the virus is about. The BBC could have played Bobby Darin’s version, but he was American. Trust the BBC to chose the French presumably because we are part of Europe.
Deborah, if my memory serves me well, that Jacques Brel version (think it was he, being cheerful for a change) was used by Jacques Tati for his film, Mr Hulot’s Holiday.
It’s a great movie – I love it – and I thoroughly recommend it as an antidote for our ‘shut in times’.
Deborah/Up2snuff
Here it is sung by the composer. Ah childhood memories.
I remember it so well from the war years – a childhood memory.
I don’t think “La Mer” was used in “M. Hulot’s Holiday”. There was some haunting theme music, which you can easily find by searching I don’t know how to give you a link).
Only in Beebworld.
#CCBGB
And here she is appearing to be impartial.
Miserable cow. Bout time she was put out to pasture.
Just shows the “bubble” these highly paid BBC toss pots live in. Fancy people needing help when their income has disappeared overnight ??? ASTONISHING !!! Not.
Talk about being out of touch.
But hey , Laura will be fine …£500k + per year for some wonky faced opinions …she won’t be needing universal credit !!!!
Oh, I’m sure that Laura and Gary and Victoria and Jon and all the rest of the publicly funded Beeboids will be handing over 50% of their salaries to help the less fortunate in their time of need…
In a similar vein, I can’t help but notice that certain Premier League clubs are laying-off staff and allowing the taxpayer to pick up 80% of their wages while still paying players their full wages for doing even less than usual. But of course, I’m sure that the lads on six figure a week incomes will be mandating half of their monthly wages to help the less fortunate, including the poor sods who’ve just been laid off by the clubs they play for.
Van
The makings of a real scandal – apparently the Premiership , championship and PFA are in talks about getting the season going again for June -games each day in sealed places without spectators to ‘lift morale ‘ ….. if this doesn’t come off and these characters keep on taking their vast wages whilst club staff are laid off – something might be said …..
Oh, I’m sure that Laura and Gary and Victoria and Jon and all the rest of the publicly funded Beeboids will be handing over 50% of their salaries to help the less fortunate in their time of need…
In a similar vein, I can’t help but notice that certain Premier League clubs are laying-off staff and allowing the taxpayer to pick up 80% of their wages while still paying players their full wages for doing even less than usual. But of course, I’m sure that the lads on six figure a week incomes will be mandating half of their monthly wages to help the less fortunate, including the poor sods who’ve just been laid off by the clubs they play for.
Not sure it is the government, Laura. Perhaps rather than eulogising constantly over the heroes in the NHS and your daily despicable slagging of government, you may wish to ask tomorrow at 5pm about the layers of management, the poor decision making, the awful NHS procurement process, the poor basic administration and the general incompetence and waste in the running of the UK’s International NHS, the worlds longest running, largest expirement in state funded communism.
“Why does the government appear to be in such a mess over testing for coronavirus?”
Because the female lab assistants will only work with pink test tubes?
The Anti-Beeb are really showing their true colours in all this.
It’s not going unnoticed, outside of the bubble, that their approach has been one of bile, negativity and gloom and doom.
The constant slagging of the government will do them no good whatsover.
And today’s word is, children….
Not Anti-Beeb, sorry but Westys Airport update Day 2.
Heathrow arrivals recently.
Doha, Airbus A350. Arrived.
Munich, Airbus A320. Arrived.
LDN Stanstead
Philadelphia, Boeing 767
East Midlands Airport
Philadelphia, Boeing 767 – both due in the next 30mins.
Interesting who likes the bbc just they way they are.
And she is, as ever, serving the Graun role as one degree of separation for Beeboids to retweet.
Very grateful to Polly –
The next time some lefty accuses the BBC as having ‘ right wing bias’ – which they use to shield the truth – remember the Guardian – and Comrade Polly putting up the defence for their favoured Far Left Biased friend – she would say that wouldn’t she .
Looks like we are going to be entertained by Richard Branson appealing for cash to save his airline . Apparently he has a personal fortune of £4 billion . Maybe he can use that or get it from his favourite EU – virgin Atlantic is off shored to avoid UK taxes but he’ll still try to get money from us – the UK taxpayer . Screw him . HMG cannot bail him out . But the BBC loves him so we ll see…. Also plenty of luvvies – like Blair will be chirping too …
Just watched Boris’s broadcast on Twitter
Is it just me or does it strike anyone else as strange that we haven’t seen it on our TV screens?
Celtic
The reason we’re not seeing this is because the BBC et al is too busy telling the British public everything is bad .
However – it seems a bit worrying that BoJo does this on top of the 25minute 5pm briefing today – someone in government media needs to do that briefing – how do you say – better .
People are sacrificing a lot so deserve to be better informed .
Fed, The better half here thinks I’m losing the plot!
Message to Prime Minister Boris “Churchill” Johnson.
I don’t watch it, why should I be compelled by law to pay for it ?
What is more, I am absolutely fed up of getting red letters from ‘The Tellygoons’ warning me that I am under investigation and surveillance.
Simples.
Now Look we keep a safe distance from the person around us and the BBC has helpfully explained what that distance is .
It`s two metres .
Now if you cant envision two metres here`s the BBC way of explaining .
Its at least a small car length
Its the length of a reasonably sized large man
The size of a ping pong table
0.000054 of a football stadium
0.0000000000000173 the size of Wales
x23345729814 inverted of a Light Year .
Or six foot , which they wont mention .
To be precise its 6.561679790026246~ feet, or to avoid infinity, two yards 6.74015748031496 inches.
Had to turn off the BBC ‘news’ this evening, it was just awful… Negatives all round, almost a hatred of anyone trying to get over this bad time!
So as an antidote, here’s a song for our times…
To put in context, with a 65 million population and life expectancy of, say, 80, we would expect 2200 deaths a day for every day of the year.
Given that most of the 2200 would by definition be elderly, and quite a few demented, it occurs that Coronavirus is in many cases bringing forward deaths by a few months or even as little as weeks and days.
Whether this minor increase in lifespan is worth trashing the entire market economy I leave others to judge.
The more the NHS cocks up over Coronavirus and the more, rightly or wrongly, the government are blamed for the mess, the more we realise that nationalisation is a road to nowhere, and we have before us a brilliant example of the utter folly of the Far Left Labour policy at the last election.
Not that anyone’s noticing just now, but they damn well ought to be…….
S
The answer to the failures of the EU is, more EU.
The answer to 100 million c20 Communist murders is, more Communism.
Maybe some temporary Communism is required, because :-
Reliable Statistic #1, North Korea has ZERO cases of coronavirus.
Reliable Statistic #2, 21 million mobile phone accounts recently closed in the PRC due to, err, umm, amnesia.
Has the BBC got a fetish for masks?
This is supposed to ridicule Trump (copied from Washington Post)
“One internal memo for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that even simple cloth masks could help reduce the risk of virus transmission, the Washington Post reports.
“President Donald Trump has suggested that individuals could “use a scarf”.
In the middle it says –
“There have been over 190,000 cases of coronavirus in the US, with about 4,000 deaths.”
Actually, it reflects how the US is ramping up testing (by far lol)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52126183
This was my ‘Tweet of the Day’ yesterday –
Didn’t the BBC used to do April 1st stunts?
Like this BBC spaghetti tree one you mean?
These days. all the BBC hacks are interseted in, is politically correct garbage, and taking down Boris.
You can take the man out of the bbc, but…
Meanwhile, on Sky…
Has Jon Snow coughed on KGM’s kid yet?
The BBC thinks we should fund Gary Lineker’s gardening leave, Botney’s pension and Newsnight’s scaremongering by a forced tithe on broadband, the means by which I came across this for free…
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says?
I think not.
Bbc Moaning Emole… in ‘quotes’…
***
NHS testing ‘scandal’
Testing questions
Story detail
Throughout the succession of government announcements since the coronavirus outbreak arrived in the UK, ministers have heard persistent calls for NHS workers to be tested. Yet the latest figures for England reveal just 2,000 out of about half a million frontline staff have been tested so far. Industry bodies describe hospitals being able to test just a handful of staff a day, prompting press descriptions of a “scandal”.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has issued a video message declaring he has been saying “for weeks and weeks” that testing is “how we will unlock the coronavirus puzzle”. Dr Yvonne Doyle, of Public Health England, says there is now capacity for 3,000 tests a day on frontline staff, with the aim to increase that “to hundreds of thousands within the coming weeks”.
Meanwhile, up to 3,000 additional armed forces reservists are being called up to aid the military response to the coronavirus pandemic. Individuals with specialist skills will provide medical and logistical support to the NHS, engineers and accountants, the Ministry of Defence says. And British Airways is expected to suspend some 36,000 staff – about 80% of its workforce – later, after reaching a broad deal with union representatives.
***
Like this one:
“prompting press descriptions of a “scandal”.”
Easy to see why she gets the big bucks.
Pregnant Amy’s people got in touch with the BBC’s people and…
How were they going to “find out the gender of our baby”?
Surely this assumption would have to be made based on its genitalia? Well that’s not right, the baby should surely be assigned it’s gender on the basis of how it “feels” it wants to “identify “.
Come on BBC, get with the programme!
To quote a scene from Blackadder
Nursie: Out you popped, out of your mummies tumpkin and everyone shouted : “It’s a boy, it’s a boy!”. And somebody said “but it hasn’t got a winkle!”. And then I said “A boy without a winkle? God be praised, it is a miracle. A boy without a winkle!” And then Sir Thomas More pointed out that a boy without a winkle is a girl. And everyone was really disappointed.
Melchett: Oh yes, well you see, he was a very perceptive man, Sir Thomas More.
When in doubt, punt out a daftie…
GW,
Will the BBC be providing a songsheet for their favourite piece of music for the ‘Singalong’. Just in case most don’t know the words.
I felt quite moved – now wheres that toilet roll .. ?
I wonder if the new ‘leader of the Labour Party’ will be humming thar in 2 days . Please let it be Wrong Daily …please …. or should it be the benighted one with the 1000 yard stare ? Sighs
Lewis Goodhall is bereft.
For him, ze reason for living ist over.
Have the BBC got Rory back in yet? He has a graph.
GW
“280 people are talking about this”
[All stating that Rory is an idiot]
Including
“Alistair Nicholls
Rory; the China data is utterly ludicrous. You’re cleverer than this. [Wrong]
Somewhere between 250,00 & 15m people died in China.
”
[The recent BBC espousal of Rory as a prospective leader of the Conservative and Unionist Party seemed, to me
at least, a strange example of batting for the unelectable.
Since then Corbyn, Swinson and Lucas.
Rayner, Nandy, Phillipps, Long-Bailey.
Conclusion BBC employees really are cretins.]
If you’re living in London then there’s only one positive to come from this awful virus.
Looking on the bright side…
At least Rory Stewart won’t try to move in with you.
Uncle Ray a bit worried about the index-linked?
Luckily, Beff’s on it…
Is this true?
I take it they are running that on CBBC …..
( perhaps the only April Fool this year …. ) ?
This morning the Daily Telegraph is contrasting the decentralised 176 approved public and private testing laboratories in Germany with the ….errrrr……ONE centralised Public Health England laboratory, at Colindale.
The DT goes on to say…’(Germany has) no central NHS style health service. While clinics and hospitals are independent, funded by public health insurance’….’there are not as many labs in Britain, as the strength of the NHS means the private health market is smaller’
Do their journalists now read this esteemed website for source material?
I say it again. We are paying the price of a monolithic deity that is the NHS, supported by an indoctrinated, gullible, unquestioning public, which even now thinks of the NHS as a heroic service for which we have to clap, and ludicrously attributes its failings to the politicians of the day. In reality it is ultimately failing the public who pay for it, as do all nationalised industries when change is required. Centralised planning assumes a few people know all the answers, and eliminates the independent thinking which creates innovative solutions. Its only benefit is base level standardisation.
Let’s close with a final DT quote. ‘ German scientists were able to develop a test quickly because doctors and academics worked together with the private sector without waiting for the government to act’.
I rest my case.
Sluff – the lefties and fat cats of the NHS would rather sacrifice lives than breach their creed of not letting the private sector in to do its job . I realise this is harsh but I believe it is true .
BoJo must be realising by now that frenzied hostility is being whipped up and focused on his government to get a grip .
If he doesn’t – a fair number of people will start using that as an excuse to return to ‘ normality ‘ and make a joke of the sacrifice others are making .
No amount of plod bullying with drones and threats will stop that as the people I’m describing will Neither Listen or obey .
And it’s only week 2…..
Me thinks a few people in the NHS / public health England need a kicking …
What more dystopian slogan could we have for these times? “Stay at home, protect the NHS”. Protect it from your use of it, from holding it to account, from market forces, from competition, from expecting it to be efficient and value for money. Instead don’t expect it to protect you – just clap like seals.
Can’t wait for when Mishal, Sir Boaty and Greta get in a boat to share wisdom on hydrology. 2m apart. Maybe… a rowing scull?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/02/thank-you-greta-natural-solutions-to-uk-flooding-climb-the-agenda-aoe?
Whether the 2 types of testing are the way to solve the covid situation I don’t know but the dogs breakfast they are making about testing is pathetic.
The front line nhs nurses, doctors and workers must be given as much protection and help as possible.
Both testing and personal protection equipment supply are failing miserably yet the manufacturers say they have the kit, the drivers and army can transport it, the testing centres and hospitals are ready for the stuff and the people are waiting to use and wear the items.
Where is the hold up?
Can it be beyond someone in power like Hancock or Boris to identify where the hold up is.
Are the manufacturers telling lies?
Is there no transport?
Surely it’s simple to identify where this promised delivery is failing, there are only a few stages involved, makers-transportears-users.
If you order something from amazon you can track the progress by the hour so why the incompetence with this extremely important equipment.
There needs to be a huge clear out of all the jobsworths and clerical staff and replace them with some people who know what they are doing.
Emmanuel
With all due respect, you haven’t been paying attention these past months and years.
What we need in the NHS is ‘more doctors and nurses and fewer managers’. We’ve been told this countless times.
‘What we need is more logistics professionals’ just doesn’t have the same ring, does it ?
In NHS la la land, all that boring stuff about supply chains, purchasing, lead times, freight forwarding, customs clearance, hauliers, transport, goods-in, warehousing. It’s just not what the adoring public want to hear about. More doctors and nurses. That’s the ticket.
This is interesting, a report from Italy that explains a number of otherwise puzzling aspects of media coverage of the situation there. Surprise surprise, a lot of the problems, and probably many of the deaths, are due to the lockdown and media hype rather than to the disease itself:
„In recent weeks, most of the Eastern European nurses who worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week supporting people in need of care in Italy have left the country in a hurry. This is not least because of the panic-mongering and the curfews and border closures threatened by the „emergency governments“. As a result, old people in need of care and disabled people, some without relatives, were left helpless by their carers.
Many of these abandoned people then ended up after a few days in the hospitals, which had been permanently overloaded for years, because they were dehydrated, among other things. Unfortunately, the hospitals lacked the personnel who had to look after the children locked up in their apartments because schools and kindergartens had been closed. This then led to the complete collapse of the care for the disabled and the elderly, especially in those areas where even harder „measures“ were ordered, and to chaotic conditions.
The nursing emergency, which was caused by the panic, temporarily led to many deaths among those in need of care and increasingly among younger patients in the hospitals. These fatalities then served to cause even more panic among those in charge and the media, who reported, for example, „another 475 fatalities“, „The dead are being removed from hospitals by the army“, accompanied by pictures of coffins and army trucks lined up.
However, this was the result of the funeral directors‘ fear of the „killer virus“, who therefore refused their services. Moreover, on the one hand there were too many deaths at once and on the other hand the government passed a law that the corpses carrying the coronavirus had to be cremated. In Catholic Italy, few cremations had been carried out in the past. Therefore there were only a few small crematoria, which very quickly reached their limits. Therefore the deceased had to be laid out in different churches.
In principle, this development is the same in all countries. However, the quality of the health system has a considerable influence on the effects. Therefore, there are fewer problems in Germany, Austria or Switzerland than in Italy, Spain or the USA. However, as can be seen in the official figures, there is no significant increase in the mortality rate. Just a small mountain that came from this tragedy.“
Take a look at the current overall weekly death figures for the UK.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending20march2020
It appears that this year, so far, has been lower than the average figures of the last 5 years.
Something you won’t hear on the BBC.
On Talk Radio JHB show, an interview with Dr John Lee, a former professor and medical professional, who is asking for the Coronavirus numbers to be taken in context with regard to the number of seasonal flu deaths and talking about how the data is not evidence based etc etc.
But then whenever have the BBC been interested in evidence!
They should be providing context, yes, and explaining that the reported flu death numbers would be far higher still if they were reported on the same basis as the COVID-19 deaths are currently being reported (death with a positive test result is sufficient to include it in the count).
2200 people die every day in the UK. Normally it’s called ‘getting old’, though 450 a day die due to cancer.
And around 2000 a year die in road accidents, which injure a further 150,000.
Coronavirus is thus not that deadly, though admittedly it is contagious.
Dyst I think the government is blurring the data on deaths to maintain the fear needed to keep us compliant and indoors . It’s also useful to have an over zealous plod .
How many people are not dying now that normality has been suspended ? Less accidents ? Less pub fights ?
No – the numbers are not designed to make sense – and I haven’t heard anything from the actuaries who do the sums of this stuff or – indeed – the insurance industry busily making sure people can’t claim ( as usual )…
Fed, without accurate data all sorts of manipulations and responses result. My thinking is that Simon Stevens and Paul Cosford should be feeling strongly at risk of the P45 virus today, probably along with the Permanent Under Secretary for Health, as well.
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There is a huge cast with this opera – my favourites are the logistics clowns who needed the Army to come in and do their job for them …
I repeat what I wrote before – people are making a huge sacrifice and those responsible for running The System seem more defensive and evasive as the days pass .
My ‘jobsworth ‘detector is at 10/10 …
Me too, Fed, with the jobsworth detector.
When Government micro-manages, the BBC complains. When Government doesn’t micro manage, the BBC complains.
Musing as I do about alternative history – the timing of our formal brexit and the coming of the Chinese Virus were incredibly close .
I bet many of those Project Fear merchants must have been wishing it had arrived a few weeks earlier to provide the excuse they were after for so long .
Meanwhile the EU looks like it is heading for its own ( political ) civil war when the Chinese virus threat subsides ….
…. the krauts will be ok though – which is all that matters in the EU really ….
TOADY Watch #1 – Thank you very much
The TOADY Prog with Mishal looks beyond the three months, six months, after next winter, point with Covid-19 with the help of Yuval Noah Harari, an atheistic Jewish convert to Bhuddism. He is a historian but also something of a ‘futurologist’. Will we be nationalistic or co-operative across national boundaries? One world government is ‘the elephant in the room’ but its existence is hinted at by both parties.
Harari finishes by dismissing the ‘Hungarian regime’. Mishal says “Thank you very much.”
TOADY Watch #2 – “Thank you. Don’t call us, we’ll call you”
The BBC – so ‘key’ and ‘essential’ at the present time are currently inflicting another repeat on the BBC R4 audience for Melvyn Bragg’s In Our Time.
Unfortunately on the TOADY and other N&CAs programmes, they feel that having new poetry, or writing, or musical performances ready to inflict on listeners helps to make the BBC ‘key’ and ‘essential’ at the present time. Today’s musical end to TOADY, stretches all the concepts of ‘musical’ and ‘key’ and ‘essential’.
“Mummy, it hurts! Please make them stop.”
Up2 – I so don’t miss it …
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