509 Responses to The Long Easter Weekend Thread 10 April 2020

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  1. smoogie7 says:
    April 12, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    Has anyone seen an interview with an ICU doctor where he mentioned that they do have enough PPE?

    I cannot find the interview anywhere but have heard it mentioned. He apparently was being pressed for negative answers from the BBC

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    • StewGreen says:
      April 12, 2020 at 1:52 pm

      Yes I saw a still this morning

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      • StewGreen says:
        April 12, 2020 at 2:00 pm

        Must have been at 8:20am

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        • StewGreen says:
          April 12, 2020 at 2:12 pm

          But earlier the BBC had the BBC-RIGHTSPEAK @DrAmirKhanGP being interviewed by Sima Kotecha

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      • smoogie7 says:
        April 12, 2020 at 2:12 pm

        That was what I saw when someone shared it on Britain Elects. Lefties baffled at how the Tories are still miles ahead in the polls while Starmer gains Labour just one point over the previous poll!

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    • EUTV says:
      April 12, 2020 at 4:19 pm

      For several years now NHS staff have done nothing but get a slot on the BBC to tell us all our problems are solved by electing Corbyn. The BBC never challenged any political motivations and affiliations.

      Now shock horror I can’t believe at least some of these claims carry political motive.

      Good work BBC, I don’t trust you.

      The boy who cried wolf comes to mind.

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  2. Oldspeaker says:
    April 12, 2020 at 1:43 pm

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52262490
    “Comedian Tim Brooke-Taylor has died at the age of 79”
    Hmmm, did the Goodies ride a tandem? Maoist airbrush at work.

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  3. StewGreen says:
    April 12, 2020 at 1:53 pm

    breaking : Boris is OUT of hospital

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    • StewGreen says:
      April 12, 2020 at 2:53 pm

      So the Tories have 3 cabinet ministers who have some form of Covid19 resistance.
      The never infected have no resistance until they get a vaccine in a years time maybe.

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    • StewGreen says:
      April 12, 2020 at 3:23 pm

      Boris statement is on TV specially thanking NZ and Portuguese nurses
      who stood by his bedside all night

      Meanwhile on Twitter, hundreds of nasty libmob accounts are still tweeting hate against Boris asserting, that he is still in hospital watching movies.

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      • Fedup2 says:
        April 12, 2020 at 3:29 pm

        5 minutes of talking – weaker obviously – but on the road to recovery. The BBC will be asking who has authority to launch the nukes again if BoJo is in his jim jams in the country for a bit – in the briefing

        As for the Gov briefing – it may well be that the kids will be doing it as the ‘ names ‘ will be doing Easter .

        Let’s wait for the BBC hired lefties to get going on their sniping again .

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      • smoogie7 says:
        April 12, 2020 at 5:58 pm

        Did the same trolls the other day who wished him death also claim that he was faking the whole thing and it was a stunt?

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  4. Darcy3 says:
    April 12, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    Right, bbc complaint No 2 today :

    1 o clock news about the muslim kumunihi in DELHI getting blamed for the virus and victims again

    I could not find a single mention by the racist bbc about the chinese and indian women abused and attacked in ENGLAND by a black asian male ( from der muslim komunihi ?)

    Widely reported eleswhere

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    • StewGreen says:
      April 12, 2020 at 3:03 pm

      No results found for site:bbc.co.uk “Meera Solanki”

      March 8th : Even the Muslim activist group TellMama carried it

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  5. Nibor says:
    April 12, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    I’ve been issued gloves and alcohol hand gel by my company .
    Please use wisely they’ve asked .

    A colonel is briefing a squad of soldiers about to go on a mission .
    ” remember your training and you’ve only got six rounds each ” he reminds them .

    Is the company telling me I’m thick and think I’m going to drink the hand gel , is the colonel wrong to reiterate the scarcity of the ammo ?

    Of course not . Who would issue scarce resources to anyone without that reminder .?
    So lay off the Secretary of State Hancock , BBC and all the faux outraged others . He didn’t say Nurses were abusing them he said a normal reminder and that’s that .

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  6. pugnazious says:
    April 12, 2020 at 3:35 pm

    If you listened to the BBC you’d think Trump was an absolute nutter and reckless advocate for hydroxychloroquine as a possible treatment for the coronavirus. You’d be in no doubt that it doesn’t work…even the Now Show, current and so up to date, got in on the show yesterday and sneered at Trump for this.

    However….a BBC report states…
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52180660

    ‘”Chloroquine seems to block the coronavirus in lab studies. There’s some anecdotal evidence from doctors saying it has appeared to help,” James Gallagher, BBC health correspondent, explained.

    But crucially there have been no complete clinical trials which are important to show how the drug behaves in actual patients, although they are under way in China, the US, UK and Spain.’

    As usual what BBC presenters, and not so now comedy shows, tell us is at odds what their specialist journalists say….it has always been the case not just with this issue….indeed you may recall that ex-BBC Richard Sambrook suggested just that and that maybe the specialists be more prominent.

    Your everyday BBC presenter is one, often ill-informed and two, overly opinionated and prejudiced and only wants to present the narrative they have already constructed in their heads and any evidence to the contrary is ignored or shouted down.

    Wonder what they will make of this from the Mail…the NHS is now trialling the drug…
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8211717/Malaria-drug-championed-Donald-Trump-used-coronavirus-patients-NHS-wards.html

    ‘Malaria drug hailed a ‘game changer’ by Donald Trump is used in NHS hospitals for first time to treat coronavirus patients despite controversy over its effectiveness.

    Coronavirus patients on NHS wards have started receiving a controversial anti-malarial drug – despite debate over its effectiveness.

    Hydroxychloroquine is being used at Barts in London and the Royal Devon and Exeter to keep critically ill coronavirus patients alive.

    A spokesman for Barts said: ‘Barts Health NHS Trust has convened an expert clinical group to consider novel medications in the treatment of Covid-19.

    ‘The evidence base is limited for all such drugs and we are actively recruiting patients to major clinical trials that have been prioritised by the Dept of Health and Social Care.

    ‘These include hydroxychloroquine, kaletra, steroids and remdesivir.”

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  7. Celtic_Mist says:
    April 12, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    The BBC should be shut down because it is out of control and whilst there should be a free press, the BBC with its vast resources, has become a propaganda machine. Is the BBC is attempting to counter US Executive Orders?

    eg

    The BBC caused quite a stir on Twitter with this –
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-52228423

    “US-China tensions
    One of the reasons behind President Trump’s decision to mine on the Moon could be a lack of access to minerals for the US compared with other parts of the world
    “The US has lost the race – other countries are ahead, like China and Russia,” says Benjamin.
    Materials mined by China have been made available around the world.
    “It will be really attractive to people like President Trump if you are able to get minerals in a place where the Chinese aren’t – like space.”

    This paints the US, and Trump in particular, in a bad light

    Reaction on Twitter –

    https://twitter dot com/search?q=bbc%20moon%20trump&src=typed_query

    To cover themselves the BBC included a link outside the site
    https://www.space.com/trump-moon-mining-space-resources-executive-order.html

    Further
    https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/2018/05/02/americas-critical-minerals-problem-has-gone-from-bad-to-worse/

    And the truth

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  8. StewGreen says:
    April 12, 2020 at 3:59 pm

    New UK daily deaths : 737 a fall
    5,288 new positives ..continuing the flat phase..but sill trending to 1,200 deaths/day next week

    Coronavirus: UK could be ‘worst affected’ country in Europe
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52261859

    FFS .. there is a nutty thing where countries of vastly different sizes are put on the same graph.

    Lets fire up Worldometer countries list
    Lets use the “yesterday button”
    Lets hid the New Cases button to sort list by that category

    – UK is number #2 ..we have 66m.. and are looking at 1,300 deaths per day on 18th April
    – Turkey is #3, but it is 15% more populous
    +5,138 +95 , they are heading for 1,000 deaths on 18th April

    – Next France/Spain/Italy looking at 1,200 deaths per day on 18th April ..that looks like a second wave
    (* as I type Spain new daily death toll has just done a blip up)

    – Belgium +1,351 new cases +327 deaths yesterday
    hang on their popn is 11m
    Scale up to UK figs at that is 81K and 2,000 in a day trending to 4,000 deaths on April 18 !

    – Next Netherlands population 17m ie a quarter of UKs
    +1,316 +132
    scales to 5,200 and 520 , trending to 1,000 deaths on April 18 !

    – Next Brazil .. a much bigger country popn 210m
    3 times bigger than UK, and the BBC tell me the president is a nasty Nazi
    yet stats +1,173 +72
    scaling to 400 and 24 death for UK comparison

    – Eire popn 5m …ie 13th of UK
    +839 +33
    That scales to 11,000 and 430, trending to 2,200 deaths on April 18 ! ..suggesting Eire is a week behind UK in crisis.

    My big assumption is about testing that countries are acting the same as the UK and saving testing for only the most sever cases.
    It is possible that a lot of their positives could be mild cases.

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    • StewGreen says:
      April 12, 2020 at 4:09 pm

      What about Sweden, and it’s stay-open mode ?
      It’s population is 10m ie 6.5 times smaller than UK
      +466 +17
      scales to 3,000 .. 110
      That’s much smaller than UK ..but still trending to 600 deaths per day on April 18th

      Portugal has similar population
      +515 470 +35
      scales to 3,300 and 220

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      • Cooper_Man says:
        April 12, 2020 at 4:19 pm

        Personally I’d trust the figures coming out of Sweden about as much as I’d trust the figures coming out of China – talk about all over the place. A bit like their society.

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    • StewGreen says:
      April 12, 2020 at 4:36 pm

      Belgium line .. an extra 1 crept in
      Scale up to UK figs at that is 8K and 2,000 in a day trending to 4,000 deaths on April 18 !

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    • Up2snuff says:
      April 12, 2020 at 7:10 pm

      Stew, not much point in comparing countries and deaths with Covid-19. As some of us suspected, and we’ve now had it confirmed, that in Europe at least where there is a Covid-19 infection that is not sole or is not primary (ie diabetic patient, patient with cancer) the other cause of death goes on the certificate.

      In the UK, the Covid-19 is put as cause of death. Yeah, lazy, I know but if you are a tired Doc, rushed off your feet, it is understandable.

      It is also pretty pointless looking at the Southern Hemisphere until July, when you can then start to compare like with like.

      What we need is an idea of ‘ongoing infectiousness’ (Microsoft appears to agree that there is such word) because that tells us how the virus is hitting us as a nation. That is also the bedrock of cases from which severity of infection or severity of reaction may or may not then put pressure on the NHS or, come to that, any nation’s health system and hence, their economy.

      Just looking at the Johns Hopkins Uni interactive demonstrates that.

      As well as giving all sorts of scope for conspiracy theories. Has someone been deliberately infecting the USA? Or is there a link between Covid-19 and obesity? There’s gonna be a Yoooni study, there, sometime – get your funding bids in, folks. One of the statistics that we know about is that a high proportion of NHS workers are clinically or morbidly obese. I know some that are – can’t say more.

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  9. pugnazious says:
    April 12, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    Astounding and dishonest….the BBC asks….

    Coronavirus lockdown: How can we lift restrictions?

    Read it and you’ll find a huge hole in the analysis…the missing elephant in the room…..the massive damage being done to the economy and to British interests by the lockdown.

    This is the nearest you get to any idea of that damage..

    ‘Lockdowns have been essential for containing the spread of coronavirus, but they are causing huge disruption, and distress, to lives around the world.

    So when can they be lifted?

    There are big decisions for governments to make – when to act, which restrictions to lift, how to contain the virus instead and how to balance saving lives today with long-term damage to society. ‘

    No alarming reports of the worst depression snce the 30’s here, no mention of rapidly on-coming economic apocalypse that so many august bodies predict. No mention of the destruction of Western influence and power in the world that will allow China and Russia even more freedom to do what they like around the world.

    From The Spectator…

    ‘When this pandemic is over, US ability to manage a crisis will have taken a hit and with it its credibility. Britain’s and France’s will also have suffered. But above all, so will the longstanding international perception of the superiority of western health services and efficiency of democratic government. An element of the west’s soft power will have lost its potency.

    But the assessments post hoc will not just be about health care systems. They will also be about states’ democratic robustness. This is an important soft power lever pulled by western states from the moral high ground to convince others ‘less democratic’ than themselves of the righteousness of a particular path individually, or collectively such as through the United Nations. After coronavirus, will western nations be able to wield that democratic moral weapon so convincingly? Britain and France, both so present for now on the international stage, might not like the answer to that question.

    Will it be so convincing for the UK to preach in the future to regimes that adopt authoritarian measures when confronted by their own domestic crises now that the UK has demonstrated its lack of faith in the civic virtues of its people by its lockdown? ‘

    The BBC doesn’t care…it keeps on peddling the lockdown is necessary line without any rigorous questioning or challenge to that…

    ‘This is going to be a long journey – don’t think it will all be over in a few weeks.
    We cannot simply return to normal after cases peak or even after they are reduced to very low levels.
    If we just lift the lockdown, then another explosive outbreak is inevitable. ‘

    Is it?

    And the nswer? A vaccine…

    ‘If we lift social distancing measures then something else has to come in to suppress the virus instead or at least to prevent people ending up in intensive care. ‘

    Which is just nonsesne….a year minimum, 18 months probable if ever…there is no SARS vaccine nearly 20 years on.

    The only sensible route out is, now that the NHS has been ‘hardened’ and prepared for any likely stream of patients, is to stop the lockdown whilst protecting the vulnerable groups still….by ensuring good hygiene on everyone’s part and the vulnerable groups takng appropriate measures themselves.

    Danuel Hannan….

    ‘the purpose of the shutdown, at least in the eyes of the media, has shifted. It is now no longer about preventing deaths because of lack of NHS capacity; it is now about the number of dead per se. The front page of yesterday’s Guardian, for example, was filled with images of people who had tragically died from Covid-19.

    Coronavirus is virulent and there is as yet no vaccine. That is why, around the world, the authorities have responded with stringent measures. But such measures have a way of becoming self-sustaining. Politicians soon realise that their media are interested only in the coronavirus deaths – not deaths caused by other things or, indeed, caused indirectly by diverting resources to deal with Covid-19.

    Commentators who point this out risk being shouted down with “You’re putting money before lives!” In fact, money and lives are at stake either way. The shutdown, if it lasts long enough, will push up other kinds of deaths, just as surely as a mistimed reopening would deepen the downturn. But some pundits deliberately refuse to see this, preferring the warm glow of self-righteousness. In consequence, decision-makers are deterred from making hard choices.

    Consider this. The closures are costing Britain £2.4 billion a day – enough to build six state-of-the-art mega hospitals. The savings made by all the spending cuts between 2010 and 2019 came to around £30 billion – a reduction that Labour, at the time, claimed was killing thousands of people. In the circumstances, to say, “Let’s leave things for an extra couple of weeks, just to be on the safe side,” is not so much irresponsible as inexplicable.

    Scientific advisers, like politicians, are aware of public opinion. They would not be human if they were not readier to intervene excessively than risk being accused of complacency. As Dr Anthony Fauci, the immunologist who crafted the American government’s shutdown, put it with admirable frankness: “I think we should really be overly aggressive and get criticized for overreacting.”

    Instead of focusing on those most at risk, our authorities decided, following a hectoring media campaign, to quarantine the entire population. We normally require a high level of proof for incarceration, but not this time.

    What would a phased loosening look like? It should start where the cost of closures is highest and the gains most dubious…. it needs to start right away. If things are left decaying until May, there will be little left to salvage.’

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    • Up2snuff says:
      April 12, 2020 at 7:22 pm

      That Daniel Hannan piece is so important.

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      • Fedup2 says:
        April 12, 2020 at 7:36 pm

        I suppose the Best ‘steer ‘ on the method of ending the lock down will be to see what happens in the likes of Spain – although it just seems – as a matter of common sense. – to reduce restrictions in areas of low population density . Just imagine the bleating and wingeing and ‘free for all’ if that happened . ?

        Perhaps the entertainment industry would lead the way – footy and ggs and summer sports – without live audiences . I really hope there’s some serious thinking going on about that . It’s a bit like when the opposition shouts “ what’s your exit strategy ?” When they know very well that the whole thing is being done on a wing and a prayer .

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  10. StewGreen says:
    April 12, 2020 at 4:20 pm

    BBC get first question
    David Shukman uses the narrative
    “Coronavirus: UK could be ‘worst affected’ country in Europe”
    Matt Hancock replies … “all the better you stay at home” paraphrased

    Next DS follows up with PPE ..”gizza a date”
    … Matt Hancock “We wont rest until everyone gets their PPE”

    Next gotcha journo ITV Martha Fairlie “Will you apologise for PPE”

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    • Fedup2 says:
      April 12, 2020 at 4:45 pm

      I just don’t get the ‘apology sickness ‘ . What does it achieve ? A notch for a journo ? Another form of ‘gotcha’ ?, sometimes it gets to the point of saying sorry for not apologising .

      Even the most sleepy health minister must realise that they need to divorce the NHS from the government . At the moment someone who didn’t order enough of the right kit to do the job gets away without criticism whilst the politician has to take personal responsibility for not having enough protective stuff .
      The NHS / medical profession mafia will be on full offensive using the names of workers who have died to defend against any reform .

      As for the government brief – sooner or later the number of care home deaths is going to feature in those stats .

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      • richard D says:
        April 12, 2020 at 5:11 pm

        I heard, during this afternoon’s briefing, that there’s a two and a half day delivery period for PPE ordered by NHS trusts. Is it really beyond the wit of NHS administrators to forecast at what point they would need to order more kit, given the trend in their area ?

        Probably it is…. but you are right, Fedup2 – it doesn’t bite the NHS administrators in the ass if things aren’t available on time.

        Exclude, for the moment, the NHS, which is obviously feeling the pressure of the Chinese Virus…..but everyone is feeling the pinch because of the lockdown……however, there are those others, in the the main, working for the public sector who are not seeing any change in their financial position – and, of course, the glaring exception of the BBC, which will get the same amount of money, no matter what, with no pressure felt by it – and which feels it is totally acceptable to sit and bitch at entrepreneurs, company directors and anyone else who has to make payroll, because they are having to take tough decisions about whether to keep employees on or not, for instance.

        I would like to point out one further thing – savings rates in banks are heading for zero, pensions are being crippled by the dropping stock market, but the likes of pensioners get not one penny (they did, after all, pay for their state pensions during their working life) from the billions being handed out by the goverment, retired people are still paying taxes, and will continue to do so after this pandemic goes away – so can we ask all those bitching about how they can’t get their full pay, they fall into the gap between one government pot of money or the other, whilst sitting on their behinds doing nothing. They just can’t be spending at the same rate as they were before, whereas many pensioners have little or no choice in that matter.

        And, final ‘bitch’ of the post – Londoners, and may other UK citizens, bore the brunt of ‘blitzkrieg’ over many months – got on with it and suffered possibly far worse strictures than we see today – but the ‘snowflakes’, ably encouraged by the BBC mantras, are reputedly at their sanity’s end after 15 days or so….. jeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus – grow up !

        Edit note – the third para in the original did not read well, so I’ve changed it quite a bit – apologies.

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        • Fedup2 says:
          April 12, 2020 at 5:40 pm

          Richard – got to admit – when it was announced that there is a two day lag in supplies I instantly thought amazon could do that in 12 hours .

          There are no transport issues – the roads are empty – there are 24 hours in a day and a lot of orders will be repeats .

          Maybe they just work 9!to 5?.

          Reading between the lines – perhaps a lot of PPE is ‘ disappearing ‘ quicker than it can be used – but no one will want to make such a tasteless allegation as ‘ pilfering ‘ in the NHS….

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          • Darcy3 says:
            April 12, 2020 at 6:05 pm

            F2
            Ask anyone in the NHS what happens when they audit the drugs cabinet: “whats happened to all the diazepam again ?”

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          • Northern Voter says:
            April 12, 2020 at 6:51 pm

            Day in the life
            That’s get to the office for 9.00, coffee and a chat till 9.30, meeting till 11.00, morning tea break till 11.15. Office work till 11.45, turn off computer (for security reasons, don’t you know). Working lunch with Union Reps 1200 to 14.30, meet with suppliers reps 1430 to 1500 (complain about poor delivery schedules that are my fault) , 15.15 afternoon coffee and biscuits with other heads of departments to get or ducks in a row for the next meeting with Minister. 16.45 log off computer, turn it off (security) on coat and away we go, another productive day in your NHS , I originally mean’t this to be about the NHS but it seems to fit the BBC just as well.

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        • EUTV says:
          April 12, 2020 at 6:00 pm

          I saw the briefing too. I jumped with anger when Daily Mirror reporter asked about the 2.5 days “delay”.

          Hancock took her down because obviously it was the average from order to delivery. Not a waiting time as socialists usually prefer. Like you say, it’s for the hospital to manage the efficiency of its ordering.

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  11. fakenewswatcher says:
    April 12, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    For reasons known only unto itself, beeb R4 has chosen the Easter Sunday 16h30 poetry slot to push aggrieved and aggressive feminist Black Power stuff down our throats.
    It is really hard to put into words how inappropriate this “poetry” is for this day. I make only the observation that -whenever you think the beeb can’t sink any lower- you will find them a few steps further down, when next you look. They must be completely stark, raving mad, to expect a ‘licence fee’ payment for this offensive rubbish!

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    • Ian Rushlow says:
      April 12, 2020 at 6:43 pm

      “For reasons known only unto itself…”
      I think many of us know the reasons:

      1. The BBC comprises large number of intersectionalist Marxists who are running with the ‘divide and rule’ strategy used by the British ruling classes during the days of Empire, and which has now been repurposed for use at home. Men against women. Black against White. Young against old etc.
      2. By creating a narrative of false victimhood, the BBC hopes to whip up enthusiasm for agit-prop and revolution among ethnic minorities, particularly as the White working class have disappointed them. Just as long as the revolution doesn’t extend into the finer streets of Islington of the leafy suburbs of Surrey.
      3. Liberals are racists and actually have a low opinion of black people, which they try to disguise with over-the-top and gushing praise. To this you can add a mixture of sexual fetishisation and a false sense of guilt over what grandad did when he was a colonial adminstrator helping Sanders of the River.

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  12. Non Snowflake says:
    April 12, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    I think we should we should be taking these Daily Death figures with a very large pinch of salt. Especially as it’s been established that there are many deaths which have simply had “COVID-19” slapped on them when the Doctor/Surgeon/Nurse/Whoever doesn’t actually know what the cause was, or where people are dying ostensibly for other reasons but just happen to have the COVID symptoms.

    It’s all very sinister and of course helps the narrative to justify the quarantine.

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  13. taffman says:
    April 12, 2020 at 5:00 pm

    Compare and contrast………………
    \\Xi Jinping visit: UK-China ties ‘will be lifted to new height’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34571436
    With………………………………
    \\Donald Trump’s UK visit: What’s he bringing with him?//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48219557

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  14. Doobster78 says:
    April 12, 2020 at 5:00 pm

    Flicked on BBC to catch the weather forecast. Clive Myrie says , now, let’s get more reaction to the latest government press conference.

    Here’s Liz Kendall from the Labour party ………..

    That should be fun , I turned off immediately. I simply cannot stand it any more. Let me guess, not enough PPE, not enough PPE , not enough PPE ………..blah blah blah.

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  15. Celtic_Mist says:
    April 12, 2020 at 5:12 pm

    France 24 takes more of an interest in treatments for coronavirus than the BBC
    The French virologist claims that the chances of finding a vaccine are close to zero
    The embedded video gives more information

    https://www.france24.com/en/20200409-macron-visits-marseille-doctor-behind-virus-cure-touted-by-trump

    Whilst both News channels are ‘progressives’ only the BBC is ‘woke’ obsessed

    France 24 doesn’t go out of its way to find ‘people of colour’

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  16. StewGreen says:
    April 12, 2020 at 5:18 pm

    NHS dead : Activists are claiming 36 so far or 28
    I’m guessing that some are maybe are not frontline or are care home workers not actual NHS.
    eg lists have “Catherine Sweeney,”
    BUT she was a home carer in Scotland .. worked for West Dunbartonshire Council and was due to retire next year.
    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/daughter-tragic-carer-who-died-21846191
    IMHO it shouldn’t be safe to send over 50s to houses where someone might have Covid19

    EVT-spnXYAAcirf.jpg:small

    Were doctors actually working at 76 and 79 or are they retired doctors who happned to get it elsewhere ?

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    • StewGreen says:
      April 12, 2020 at 5:34 pm

      There a map page listing 40
      but not purely NHS
      “Medical Staff, Nursing & Midwifery Staff, Allied Health Professionals, Ancillary Staff, and Social Care Workers.”

      The is an almost hidden button at the top left of the map
      which brings up a category list
      Allied Health : Pooja Sharma

      Social Care : Catherine Sweeney, Carol Jamabo

      Medical : 13 names
      Nursing & Midwifery : 19 names
      Ancillary : 5 names

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  17. Non Snowflake says:
    April 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    Starting to run out of DVD’s to watch, so went onto YouTube today and watched a random episode of Not The Nine O’Clock News from 1982.

    And it’s interesting (and sad) to compare the humour, the cleverness, and the take-no-prisoners attitude of a BBC programme from then, and a bBBC programme from now.

    The NTNOCN episode in question poked fun (or what would now be called “rascism”) at pretty much everyone, including Pakistani’s and Idi Amin. And it was great fun, and this wasn’t even one of the best episodes, the most famous sketch probably being when a hand-dryer is switched on and Maggie Thatcher’s voice is heard.

    No left-wing stupidity, no having to bow and grovel to BAME’s, and certainly no political correctness. The way it used to be. Little wonder the bBBC won’t repeat these episodes.

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  18. JamesArthur says:
    April 12, 2020 at 5:27 pm

    I thought I would switch on R4 at 5pm for news or maybe even an Easter message – but what is on…

    An advert for the Labour party….it is mean’t to be a history of the recent Labour party but actually it is a nice soft discussion with lots of excuses for the demise of the Labour party…and of course none of it is due to the Labour party itself…and everyone wants a socialist government really….
    What a pile of Cr*p…

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    • Fedup2 says:
      April 12, 2020 at 6:48 pm

      Time to avoid Twitter . Some of the vitriol being poured over BoJo is really something .

      One Jaqui sneed Plowman
      Claims the Bojo hospital admission was just to ‘ hide’ . Others think he shouldn’t travel unnecessarily to go his country residence .

      Perhaps it’s just signs of the madness isolation is causing .

      I notice – as well – that people are being encouraged to use the NHS . Could it be suspected that a whole range of specialists not involved with covid now have nothing to do?

      And I bet private practices are suffering £££££

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  19. pugnazious says:
    April 12, 2020 at 6:43 pm

    Wonder what the trans cheerleaders at the BBC will make of this…

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/12/female-prison-officers-raped-inmates-claiming-trans-rory-stewart/

    ‘Female prison officers were raped by inmates claiming to be trans, Rory Stewart reveals

    Rory Stewart said that while he served in Government there were “situations of male prisoners selfidentifying as females then raping staff in prison”.

    The former Tory MP, who ran in last year’s leadership contest, made the remarks in GQ as he was interviewed as part of his candidacy for Mayor of London.

    When asked whether anyone who identifies as a woman should be allowed to go into female-only spaces such as toilets, Mr Stewart said: “I’m instinctively worried about that, partly because when I was prisons minister, we had situations of male prisoners selfidentifying as females then raping staff in prison.

    “So I think if someone is biologically male, particularly in an environment like a prison, we shouldn’t allow that to happen….’

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    • vlad says:
      April 12, 2020 at 7:02 pm

      I think Rory’s just committed the crime of hate speech there – or what used to be called ‘speaking common sense’, before the world went mad.

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  20. StewGreen says:
    April 12, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    oops new thread started

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  21. Banania says:
    April 13, 2020 at 2:53 am

    That was about Naga Munchetty. I don’t know how it wound up here.

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