“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter”. A quote from 1965 which could have been made for this website – if a little over dramatic . It was written by an American – but I bet Martin Luther King would never have thought someone would use it about the BBC ….
Midweek Thread 3 June 2020
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There’s an interesting qualifier in there that one might guesses applies to media folk and progeny, but not those from planet Earth.
LOL. It’s all unravelling for Piers !!!
Literally hundreds of tweets and hours on GMB spent ranting about Dominic Cummings and his drive with his family and how irresponsible it was and he should lose his job. He never stopped tweeting for days about it. Then this about Barry Gardiner
But proud of his son for attending !!!! The sheer hypocrisy is just astounding.
Piers Morgan has always been an utter cockwomble.
Needs reminding occasionally why he was sacked from the far left scum media Daily Mirror, for faking photos of British troops ‘apparently’ committing war crimes.
Horrid individual.
Just remember if you are over 75 you can have two more months of free BBC Licence ‘cos of the virus.
Thank you Boris for standing up to the BBC on behalf of the pensioners.
https://www.bbc.com/aboutthebbc/reports/consultation/age-related-tv-licence-policy/general-notice?xtor=CS8-1000-%5BPromo_Box%5D-%5BNews_Promo%5D-%5BNews_Promo%5D-%5BPS_BBC_CORPORATE~P~~P_TVLicenceUpdate%5D
What’s going on? Has the rioting ceased – abruptly? I caught the 0800 “News” on Toady and listened intently for any and all news of the rioting. Nothing. Needless to say, that raises suspicions it being our “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster”, the BBC. Has there been a propaganda/emphasis change or, have the reporters been confined to base in fear of being assaulted? Before my day moves on and I absorb more reliable news off the internet this will be the burning question.
Meanwhile, listeners were treated to an interview with the mercurial imp, Bliar. He gave a totally confusing message about testing (did anybody spot it?). The Soros’ marionette clearly said that both tests for the chinese virus were available and even private individuals were purchasing for self-testing. But at the end of the very long interview when our Justin was trying to close Bliar down, he said (of which test I don’t recall), “…..the Government should be scouring the World to obtain the test kits…..”. Or words to that effect. So, perhaps the tests are not as readily available as Bliar suggests.
Meanwhile in the Land of Garden Gnome leadership we hear that the Scottish Government had been informed in 2018 that should a pandemic occur there would be a shortage of PPI. And did nothing.
Amazing how long it takes for leading BBC reporters to travel to Scotland to interview the Garden Gnome and ask if she’s going to resign………………………..
guest -Who cares?
Well it is interesting that Scotland chooses the most unattractive person both physically and in personality to represent themselves, but for a nation that invented black pudding as a food and a military that enjoy knifing each other while they fight the English they do have a strong track record in shooting themselves up the kilt
I do like the Broons though, and Campbeltown has its charms, like Springbank whisky
Darcy3,
The Broons – I think it used to said by artists working in the British comics strip industry that the left-handers among them could always travel north to Dundee and be assured of getting a job with DC Thomson – because they could share an inkpot with the right-hander sitting next to them.
BLack Lives Matter ? SHurely Shome Mishtake ? When Black is clearly a racially offensive term as Darcus Howe – known race hustler and hypocrite in his memorable altercation with Joan Rivers:
Language as a weapon and control . One of the reasons i used ‘ coloured ‘ and not BAME . I remember being lectured on why ‘ coloured ‘ was wrong. Bame seems incoherent any way .
Why are we labelled as white ? I am not white, a little pink sometimes and a little red going toward brown after the sun
A little green after bad seafood or on a ferry
and a bit blue after a heart murmur
I am a bleeding person of colour more than “they” are where is my riot as the Clash may have asked
Careful Darcy, you could be press ganged into being a walking rainbow !
Are we not all rainbow people strolling through the bluebell woods until we come across the black lives matter sh@tes saying apparently f@ck Boris and I ask
why ? because he is not black?
What has he done to you ? you the black shit in designer ripped jeans costing hundreds of pounds what is your excuse for trying to attack our prime minister ?
And our police we pay for (something else you no doubt did not learn in your benefit life:
income tax)
probaby nothing that you could elucidate in english. but it indulges your indigenous need for violence
How times change Fed. I was castigated by my dad as a child in the 50’s, when I referred to a ‘black’ person. He said that it was rude (you see how I was taught manners at an early age !) and I should use the term ‘coloured’. Then when the rules changed, I felt uncomfortable using the term ‘black’ – no wonder we’re all basket cases !
The absolute 1984 control is already in place where a simple word is illegal, a word that refers linguistically to a colour the N word but, if a black person uses it that is ok,
A genuine dystopian situation where anyone white who says that word will probably be jailed
there are those, undoubtedly that are racist by nature but there are also many many people who just want black people to shut up and get on with their life
EVERY child in this country is given an opportunity to have a free education
if they choose to admire black gansta rap rather than education and find themselves disenfranchised, whos fault is that ?
Funny that we have few chinese people in this country complaining
Chinese fathers do not seem to want to inseminate every white girl they can
they tend to want a family and their children do not attack police
‘Coloured’ was the polite term in the UK until the ‘Black Power’ movement started in the USA.
Then, as now, the race industry and the BBC here were quick to import the term here so, like it or not, those pour souls who came here on the Empire Windrush and later ships and aircraft, (by choice), became ‘blacks’ too, they didn’t get to choose their ‘label’. (Actually the idea that the ‘subject’ gets to choose has never been true, it is those who construct the taxonomy).
The ‘nigger’ word, just a variant of ‘black’ anyway, never had much use here, ‘wog’ being ‘the British way’, (See Fawlty Towers for the Major’s excellent definition!).
It’s all nonsense anyway, the agitators just try to change the language to ‘wrong foot’ their opponents. In the land of the ‘blacks’, the USA, they still have their NAACP, no guesses what the ‘C’ stands for and, as many have noted, the darker Britons freely use the imported ‘n-word’ in their ‘music’.
The real joke in the UK is the invention of the ‘BAME’ term as it puts the minority of minorities first and the majority of minorities second. It is even more ridiculous when one considers that high-class Indians/Pakistanis aspire to be considered ‘white’ and if the BBC/Guardian think that the white, working class Brexit voters don’t like ‘blacks’ they should listen to a few of their favoured ‘brown-eyed’ boys on the subject. (We turn a blind eye if a ‘black’ looks at a bonde bimbo; if a ‘black’ were to as much as glance at one of the ‘Asian’ lasses it is only a matter of moments before brothers and cousins turn up in cars, along with baseball bats, probably as a show of BAME ‘solidarity’!).
At school in the 1940s and fifties were were taught about negroes and we were taught to sing ‘negro spirituals’. Later Martin Luther King was to use the word negroes.
Bris – I also have a big problem with the way colour is used as a prime identifier – it takes away the individual and just depicts a nice convenient grouping .
Discrimination is part of living and I could endlessly describe groupings of gender – age – height ….and on
I understand the chap that every one is on about wasn’t a saint but has now been turned into one for some reason . The cops who apparently did the deed will pay a price –
– but to turn the thing into a multinational ‘ rant’ just defines the time we are going through . I’ve seen that they are back ranting on Saturday afternoon again – iPhone cameras at the ready …..
I really hope that plod doesn’t kneel again – they are meant to be above taking sides and should just do their job as opposed to becoming protesters …..
Something which I think the current ‘chief ‘ will keep quiet about after the clapping nonsense on Westminster Bridge . At least we know that she will be replaced by somebody …… coloured …..
Fedup2
The communist controllers are making good use of their useful idiots,as usual.
I don’t know where to start in picking out the bias in this piece of anti American propaganda. But I am more convinced than ever that this is not merely the work of a few Trots in the BBC but is backed by the forces than control the British State.
Worth noting remarks to the effect that President Trump’s MAGA slogan is presented as a call to return to the US’s worst aspect of racism.
This stuff is not BBC alone; its the UK state.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52912238
So, after days and days of ‘experts’ telling us that wearing masks would not give the protection needed, we’re now told we have to wear face coverings on public transport !
Ha ! ha ! I wonder what the plonker professor in Reading thinks now, when he was interviewed day after day by Adam Boulton when the wearing of masks was a major topic, and he said there was no benefit from wearing one. Dear God, preserve us from the ‘experts’.
I notice that, when you are a ‘protestor’, you are apparently within your rights to commit any number of what would have been offences, were any individual to commit them:
i.a. assaulting people, damaging public property, blocking public thoroughfares, preventing other people from going about their lawful business, trespassing, defacing public memorials, causing a public disturbance, etc.
All of this eagerly encouraged by the ‘media’. And we are supposedly ‘under the Law’? We are supposedly what the Germans would call a ‘Rechtsstaat’ i.e. A Legalstate? That’s an awful lot of laws, conveniently suspended for the virtue-signallers? Doesn’t it make you sick? Isn’t there something very wrong with our ‘Rechstaat’? Like a lot of ‘looking the other way’ when convenient?
One law for them and…
FFS of course they want people wearing face masks:
NO benefit to the wearer, benefit to those around them if wearer is infected, dear God does no one listen
appears the bbc has managed to level the whole population towards the lara carslberg level of intellect, i.e. listen to whoever as long as they are on the telly and says they are an expert in basket weaving with a module in epidemiology or whatever and put ones brain to one side on the shelf and maybe pick it up later
Darcy
Masks –
You might want to look at a short segment of this video:
Masks? You need to see between, 1:35 mins in and 4:26.
I said before that vid is rubbish
sciency .. rather than actual science
Look at these Liberal idiots. Embarrassing.
Lets track and trace them this weekend and no doubt they will be in the middle of thousands of rioters in London, standing shoulder to shoulder.
But its all Dominic Cummings fault.
Simple drive down the road beep horn, if thet don’t move drive over them a bit. There’s never a muck spreader arround when you need one
On Classic fm news at 10:00 it said,’ after George Ffloyd’s death there have been mainly peaceful protests’ . Now my point isn’t that this is a complete inversion of the truth but that it is a complete inversion of what was being said by the same news organisation only a few days ago. It also seems to be the case on most other news networks , not that I watch them much. Previously much was being made that America was in flames , cities were burning as the ‘protesters’ vented their righteous anger. Of course the ‘protesters’ were never condemned, indeed they were praised, but much was made of the feeling of anger and that President Trump had lost control and was a major part of the problem.
Now the narrative has changed and the violence is being played down. Why? I suspect that the MSM has realised that ordinary voters in the US are frightened of the violent mob stirred up by the democrats and the MSM and moving into Trump’s camp. Believe nothing that issues from the MSM .
“Weird weather: Can computers solve UK puzzle?”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52921479
I thought the “science was settled” ?
Some interesting HYS comments .
Taffman,
If I heard correctly on Toady this morning, the Meteorological people are seeking funding (£1 million) to research what is, ‘everyday weather’. What a joke.
Nice link Tafman.
Curious paragraph towards the end, are we close to then of the craziness of we are all going to die in 5 years unless we stop driving cars?
Honest gov, this is an actual quote on a bbc website:
“Scientists are now planning to re-run UK climate models over recent years and remove the heating element of CO2 emissions from the mathematical puzzle. That should offer a better understanding of British weather at least.”
Al Beeb often use the phrase “What we do know”.
What do they actually mean by the collective “We”. Us or them ?
Quite frankly they don’t know anything, they just make it up as it suits their political agenda . Why are people forced to pay for this trash ?
Scrap the tax that robs the from the poor to give to the rich.
TOADY Watch #1 – although not really …
Wanted to listen to 8 a.m. R4 news from outset but missed first couple of minutes. It was notable the PHEngland Report was misrepresented in the News and again by Mishal (“Wot! ‘er agin?”) as being about the Covid-19 virus seeking BAMEs to infect.
No, no, NO Mishal. Off switch activated.
If the BBC (and their Socialist/Communist/Anarchist racist fellow-travellers) are not careful we will end up with segregation and/or Apartheid in the UK either preceded or followed by a race war.
Roman empire, besieged by savages with no culture
what do they do, invite them in,
where is the Roman empire now
2000 years ago underfloor heating here in every house, (have a look at St Albans, Verulam) a few years later and back to mud huts
there is no such thing as equality some prefer underfloor heating and some mud huts
Get ready UK we are well on the way back to mud huts and tribal war
History does not lie
Although turning the M25 into a wall is a good idea, let them get on with it, when the Harlesden, Hackney etc lot run out of resources and start looking toward Islington with envious eyes and we can all sit on the wall and watch Islington get its just rewards
I would point out that Covid-19 is no respecter of persons as far as infection goes. Barnet had a very high proportion of infections as did Brent, with very different ethnic make up and also of affluence. The Boroughs that you would expect to have an ethnically high rate of infection, Newham, Tower Hamlets, for example, did not.
I cannot be blamed for suspecting that is why the BBC changed their data access here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274 because that page – when you could type in a place name – made it easy to check that that ‘Covid-19 is racist’ claim is entirely false.
I am sure you will all be pleased to know that the ‘key workers’ at TV Licensing are still hard at it!
Not only that, they have come up with a new slogan, “Are you watching?”
No!
“TV Licensing: More creative than the creatives that they fund!”
The Sweet bassist Steve Priest dies aged 72
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52933584
“The band wore Native American headdresses when they played Wig-Wam Bam in the 70s”
So Cultural Appropriation is OK when some people do it?
I hate to think what they wore when playing Co-Co. Or, indeed Little Willy.
A new BBC Director General has been named
“Those challenges include… Maintaining outstanding programming, trust among a global audience, and standards of impartiality”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52933648
Looks like the BBC still try and do comedy.
Tabs
Thank you – excellent news – they’ve promoted someone From within who has presided over the last 15 years of decline . Unlikely to be much ‘diversity of thought ‘ ..
Speaking of lack of diversity ……the TV BAFTAs were announced this morning with the likes of HBO and Netflix leading the way …..some BBC boxing ticking mediocrity on show where it seems that a programme ‘chaired ‘ by a gay Irishman advertising new films with their stars is a BBC mainstay ….But I suppose it’s cheap – like him – ah – forgot the wage bill ……
Still annoyed that I have to pay to watch ‘Chernobyl ‘ but at least no need for a spoiler alert ….
Might put the D Day thread up soon as this one is really getting through the pages …..wouldn’t it be good it the most recent comment featured first ?
BBC thinking ‘There’s nothing wrong lets carry on as normal
by putting the current head of BBC Studios in charge’
The Guardian view ‘He’s an older white man, couldn’t a non-male or non-white be put in charge ?’
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/05/bbc-appoints-insider-tim-davie-as-director-general
Why is Guardian tweeting Guardian.com not .co.uk ?
Would that be the gay irishman that talks like a 13 year old girl (with a beard) aint that so bloody funny I laugh every time, classic comedy. that stated he would go home if we left Europe ? but still here
for the cash maybe
But I must say so glad that the comedic genius is staying, despite being a f@cking gobshite hypocrite, because, well we pay millions to hear him talk like a 13 year old pre pubescent girl squealing away and he is a bloke with a beard, what art what genius well done bbc comedy i laugh out loud every time I hear that wit
well worth the license fee just to hear him squealing like a girl cos… get it… he puts his penis in other mens bottoms..
comedy genius, in 50 years time they will still be talking about it…….
“wouldn’t it be good it the most recent comment featured first ?”
I go to the bottom** and work up, (like the BBC?), it is all relative.
‘Ordered’ comments only work if no-one gets to make a reply.
[** The ‘recent comments’ is a good starting point, but that method gets messed up if someone has made a reply particularly if it is to an old thread, that can be really confusing if one doesn’t watch the dates!]
Interesting choice. The red hot favourite was ex Labour MP/Minister James Purnell….
Wonder if recent goings on regarding Newsnight and the publics recent view of the BBC etc etc had an effect on there decision process ..???
TOADY Watch #2 – it is all coming unravelled for the BBC
First item I heard on 8 a.m. News was about deaths in Brazil and the suggestion that President Bolsanaro was ‘managing the news agenda’ by revealing the death count (It’s the infection count that counts, BBC!) later in the day after the evening news.
First class, top grade hypocrisy there from the BBC!
The BBC have managed the news agenda about Covid-19 infections, making it more difficult to access information from different areas, presenting information in different ways and formats. I noticed a change just last night here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274.
That is the third or fourth change the BBC have made to that page. (Yes, I know the header photo changes every day.)
BBC, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Or are you wanting to attack President Bolsanaro of Brazil? Understandable. Another Conservative President, like President Trump of the USA.
Political neutrality at the BBC? What neutrality?
Up2
That really is a feature of BBC/soviet propaganda – if it approves of someone or something the presenter becomes all excited and upbeat – eg the Burmese lady they thought so much of …. once …
But if it someone or something the BBC collective editorial view doesn’t like – they’ll present it in the worse possible way – surname instead of title eg President – just those little signals to tell us what to think .
Lastly …
—-it’s good to see that the Mail on line at least have shown the Vandalised statue in Whitehall being cleaned by our chaps while they were being harassed by a snowflake identified as some believed to be called Shelby Alwani Who is thought to work at the Chelsea college of art .
Both this lady and members of her family have exited social media and a former employer disowned her after the ‘Twitter storm ‘ she so rightly deserves .
I identified the statue incorrectly last night – it wasn’t – thankfully the cenotaph – which the third world protesters did climb all over – but it was the statue to Earl Butcher Haig – of whom I am not the greatest fan …..and if fate had gone another way – would have happily sent my granddad to his death ….
Yes, Fed – it is the Soviet era in the UK now with the BBC. You have to use the same skill set that Russians and others living in the Communist Bloc had to use to read between the lines to understand what was truly being said and going on in the world.
And they did not have the interwebby and sites like this to help.
Great header quote at the start of this Thread, btw.
[ By the way, btw is short for by the way. Just so’s y’know. 😉 🙂 ]
I did show that much earlier and regardless of his disputed conduct I do not recognise the right of self entitled, and obviously privelidged through their clothes and mobile phones, immigrants and their spawn to denigrate that which the indigenous popululation have decided to honour
How many black rioters can trace their family back to the first world war ?
Why are we bombarded with adverts to help fund black run countries ?
give us money or this child will be raped, give us money or this child will not have water, FFS some of the richest oil countries and what is happening ?
fundementally corrupt and now they are here
BTW a rule of life dont buy a second hand car in Luton
TOADY Watch # 3 – Further unravelling, oh dear, oh dear.
Mention of President Trump leads to another item on the 8 a.m. News. The BBC have been using hydroxycloroquine to ‘beat up on’ President Trump. Mocking him for taking it – although that is not what he actually said. The clip they played at the time was – hilariously for the listener – was quite clear. The President was “thinking’ of taking it.”
Anyone who knows anything about US politiics and the White House knows that there is a Doctor on hand there who would not allow the President to take an unsafe drug. The BBC made much of a study that hydroxycloroquine was unsafe to use. The BBC did not question how it could be unsafe for Covid-19 patients while being safe at the same time and endorsed by drug regulators for use by malaria sufferers.
Instead, the BBC used this study – with BBC added superlatives about its thoroughness – to mock President Trump and imply that the President was being irresponsible.
Oh dear! The study has been pulled. The claim that hydroxycloroquine is unsafe for Covid-19 patients is itself unsafe. The authors of the study have pulled it because they used data that cannot be verified. Interestingly there is no mention of this on the BBC Home and News Pages as I write. I wonder why?
I also wonder what other unsafe studies and reports does the BBC rely on or promote?
Up2
That’s easy – the ones which mention ‘global warming ‘ ….
Saturday 10am : Don’t have your radio tuned to TalkRadio
..cos Alastair Campbell is on the Kevin O’Sullivan show
‘the BBC matters to people’
he’s well out of touch there then.
Bubble dwelling really is a disease.
Nina Goswami @NinaTheScoop
BBC Creative Diversity Lead for #5050Project & News and journalist for #BBCNewsSix #BBCNewsTen.
tweeted
Lucy
Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh poxy F—–g Dear!
One would have thought that a publicly discredited person like Campbell would be doing his best to keep a low profile….
Campbell is an utter lunatic, I truly believe he should be sectioned under the Mental Health Act, just for his own good.
He needs strong medication for that depression of his.
It’s about cop brutality not race brutality
say a lot of tweets pointing out that a few years a white guy Tony Timpa was killed by police kneeling on his neck
Here’s the next tweet
Too right, Stew. Before I made a road trip in the US a long, long, time ago I was warned by American friends (one ethnic Chinese but American born and the other European origin but American born) that US cops could be brutal to anyone, irrespective of skin colour or nationality, especially in small towns and in certain States if you were just a mile or three over the speed limit or they considered you to be so, when passing through ‘their town’. It was the era of the 55mph blanket speed limit.
Keith Lemon actor sorry for playing ‘offensive’ black characters
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-52935412
Keith Lemon actor Leigh Francis has apologised for playing black people in his 2000s Channel 4 show, Bo’ Selecta.
Now we just wait for the BBC to apologise for The Black and White Minstrel Show…
Time for the weekend thread – a bit early – thanks
In 2012 Tim Davie was actually working as DG when George Entwistle resigned about the Newsnight falsely naming McAlpine as a sex abuser.
Tim Davie started defending George Entwistle then ..walked away from the Sky interview & wouldn’t answer the question if more ie Newsnight staff should go
Dec 2012 : Tim Davie defends failure to sack executives over Savile scandal
Tim Davie, the head of the BBC, has defended its failure to dismiss a single executive over the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal,
saying: “Success for me is not necessarily how many people I dismiss.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9757386/BBC-chief-Tim-Davie-defends-failure-to-sack-executives-over-Savile-scandal.html
Marches allowed now if you is black iinnit but you must self isolate and be aware etc etc if you is not black innt
How did Ti vote in Brexit
“96% of executives in the #creative industry voted to remain in #Britain”
Tim Davie, CEO BBC Worldwide #FOM16 #Brexit #BrandBritain
Someone else quotes him
“We do care about *storytelling* – and that puts us in an incredible position.”
TOADY Watch #4 – I didn’t have to wait long
This wry thought ‘I also wonder what other unsafe studies and reports does the BBC rely on or promote?’ had only just flitted across my brain, or more correctly between one ear and the other as there is not much to impede travel of same, when the Horror Bin came up on the news to say that because May had been the hottest evvah in the UK the Global Temperature had gone up a whopping 0.63 of a °. Believe that if you will. Don’t think he mentioned the scale used. He certainly did not mention from what and when to what and when. Scientific?
No, the BBC don’t do science.
They do do racism though. And anti-Conservatism, pro-Socialism. But not science. Although like Stew, I do enjoy listening to and endorse Jim Al-Khalili’s programme on R4 on Tuesdays when I am in a BBC listening mood which is not often these days.
[ Paul Homewood, on his excellent Not A Lot of People Know That web-site, a.k.a. NALOPKT has already debunked some of the Horror Bin’s claims about our sunny May. ]