463 Responses to Mid Week Thread 2 December 2020

  1. Doobster78 says:

    The replies tell you just how out of touch they are !!!!

    They are CONVICTED CRIMINALS you silly cow.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    11:20am Bristol explosion
    “Multiple casualties” have been reported after a large explosion at a waste water treatment works.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-55173667

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  3. Darcy3 says:

    I think this is worth a second post: what the bbc think of anyone who dares to approach them in theirtwisted mentality:

    The bbc are frightened:

    “Is the Independent still independent?

    Who is Sultan Muhammad Abuljadayel, the man who has just bought a 30% stake in the Independent online newspaper?

    He is a rich man who wants to be richer, in short; and a Saudi investor seeking influence.

    Money and influence are the two main reasons that people invest in media, and there’s no reason to think Abuljadayel is any different.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40762906

    and that is reporting news, apparently, and not opinions

    well done you millenial woke w@nkers

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  4. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – More waves of negativity from the Knaves of Wegativity, the BBC.

    TWatO started with a negative VoxPop before even the 1 p.m. News had been read! Is that a record? Cannot believe I managed to listen to the whole programme.

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    • G says:

      Up2,
      Last Sunday, just after the ‘news’ at 2200, a female voice said, “The news was read by ‘V Jay’ (?) and I’m Ritula Shah”. Personally, I would vote to clear out all white workers at the BBC and have done with it. Better in one fell swoop rather than the trickle down plan. After all, that’s where our own “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” is headed.
      Should I draw a graph of disappearing licence fee payers v proportionate increases in foreign employees? I fancy that would be as simple straight line decay graph and it could yield an idea of when the BBC is coming to an end. Bit like the theoretical absolute zero. After all, they love the experts and ‘science’ don’t they?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        G, that was probably Figee Alliss, BBC Continuity’s Secret Weapon. From Wales, very deep voice, bit like Neil Nunes who is definitely a BAME import.

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  5. Fedup2 says:

    My favourite MP -Ian ‘the people of Scotland blackford – has taken to the Twitter because he thinks the £500 free taxpayers money NHS give away is going to be taxed . I’d tax it at 110% but I bet a fair number are going to be on 40% _____
    The finances are bust . This is borrowed money – yet the SNP treats it like it is ‘earned’..

    I remember employing someone who was on low hours and low pay . I wanted to give him some money as a performance bonus . He had to explain to me that he’d lose a shed load of benefits if I threw him a thousand pounds . Felt bad afterwards – and even worse that the benefits system did this . – he got the money – just off the books …..

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    • JimS says:

      ” he’d lose a shed load of benefits”

      An expression that has puzzled me since it first appeared in the 1990s.

      Does it make a comparison with what may (or not) be stuffed in a man-cave or what may (or not) fall off a lorry?

      The OED suggests it is derived from the BBC comedians’ favourite word plus ‘load’. As the S-word can be a noun, adjective or verb with meanings ranging from good to bad, that doesn’t help. But I do know what you mean, so I guess it doesn’t matter.

      While on the subject of words Huffington Post irritates me this morning by telling us that we are ‘braced’ for bad weather. No we are only braced if we have made preparartions for something that we are expecting, so they are wrong on both counts.

      Checking The Guardian this morning to see what Peppa Pig did wrong two years ago I note that President Trump is being baselessly reported as making ‘baseless’ claims of electoral fraud. Putting aside all those people lining up with sworn affadavits in hand for the moment, shouldn’t it be of concern that our ‘free and independent media’ are using exactly the same terminology – almost as if the are just quoting a press release from a ‘higher power’?

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  6. Guest Who says:

    Ms. Spring going to check?

    https://camera-uk.org/2020/12/03/bbc-persian-service-journalist-fabricates-netanyahu-quote/?

    Or does she know the answer and anyway needs a new selfie stick.

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  7. AsISeeIt says:

    Press review addendum…

    This morning I mocked the Daily Mirror and their clumsy phrase:
    “International Day of People with Disabilities”

    Later today the Southbank Centre emails to tell me it’s: “International Day of Persons with Disabilities”

    I know the correct Politically Correct language moves fast but who has this right?

    Wokipedia reckons: “International Day of Disabled Persons”

    Google likewise says: “International Day of Disabled Persons”

    My head is in a spin. Let’s check the BBC’s Ouch! Surely they have the definitive style guidence on this: “UN International Day of Persons with Disabilities”

    The UN I guess is the horse’s mouth, they appear to go with: “International Day of People with Disability (IDPwD)” – so that’s “People” a definite “with” (it’s in the acronym) and just the one “Disability”

    But another of their agency sites says: “International Day of People with Disabilies” – using the plural disabilities.

    “Persons” would appear to be a local British PC embellishment by middle class institutions such as the BBC and the Southbank that hasn’t as yet filtered down to the tabloid Mirror. Although the internet is pushing “Persons”

    Perhaps “People” is too old Labour and socialistic sounding?

    The second UN site illustrates the day with a picture of a young boy who is best described as… Bla… ? Colo… ? Afri… ? Ne… ?

    To quote an old BBC radio comedy show… I’m sorry, I haven’t a clue.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      No FT, no comment.

      🙂

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Persons with disabilities. Years ago people spoke of cripples. And the word ‘cripple’ carried a moral message that such people were entitled to care and sympathy.

        Years ago my aunt who lived with us and was partially paralysed after a stroke had to be carried from room to room. My mum fell down the stairs when carrying her, losing her pregnancy and very close to losing her life. When warned against carrying her sister she replied ‘But she is a cripple’.
        Perhaps that was my first introduction to the way morality is woven into language.
        Persons with disabilities, my arse.

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        • JimS says:

          Moron, Imbecile and Idiot used to be technical terms for different degrees of mental deficiency.

          I might be wrong but my impression is that nowadays they are used as insults but in reverse order, i.e. an idiot isn’t as bad as a moron.

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          • G.W.F. says:

            To be pedantic. The word “idiot” comes from the Greek noun ἰδιώτης idiōtēs which referrred to a private person, someone who played no part in politics. Later it shifted its meaning. But I think that somehow the original meaning was captured in Lenin’s expression ‘useful idiots’.
            Each night in news programmes they are seen as members of the public usefully expressing their support for the experts who are guiding us through the pandemic.

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  8. vlad says:

    The lying BBC systematically ignores the numerous cases of abduction, forced conversion and forced ‘marriage’ (aka rape) of often underaged girls by muslims.

    But they’re very quick to report this kind of story, where they can portray muslims as victims: “India Muslim man arrested under ‘love jihad’ law”.

    Complete with sob-story about ‘lovers’ separated by nasty Hindus, gleefully illustrated with meaningless sentimental slogans like below.

    You can read the nauseating article below, but note the abundant use of speech marks, as if to say: this is not a real thing.

    “Love jihad”… “forced” or “fraudulent” religious conversions.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-55099113

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    • G says:

      Vlad,
      “……cases of abduction, forced conversion and forced ‘marriage’ (aka rape) of often underaged girls by muslims.” Don’t forget the chopping and cutting that goes on during FGM……..
      Savages, the lot of em!

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    • vlad says:

      Meanwhile, the fearless David Wood tells it like it is, despite numerous death threats against him and his family from the religionists of peace.

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  9. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #2 – Have school exams changed substantially in the past 50 years?

    I listened to various people from the education sector on TOADY and TWatO, including SoS for Education, Gavin Williamson, pupils and teachers and teachers Union Representatives and couldn’t believe what I was hearing.

    Are the subject syllabi kept secret?
    Is there no access allowed to question papers from prior years with model answers?
    Are there no mock examinations, taken about six or seven months before the real thing?

    That is what I seemed to be hearing today. All of those things were being talked about as though they were new things, to be introduced in response to the Pandemic and the loss of schooling through illness with Covid-19.

    Bizarre.

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  10. BRISSLES says:

    I see that Prince Harry has been at the magic mushrooms again.

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  11. StewGreen says:

    3:30pm R4 Trailer : Topic of Theroux prog will be black actress Michaela Coed

    4:30pm Trailer : Sam Sally the US mother who took her kids to ISIS in Syria

    The R4 Science show starts and it’s another new presenter Ghanain flag on his profile
    different to the new Asian one from last week.
    This one is London based as well.

    As ever no problem with proportionate BBC employment of non-whites, but it kinda looks vastly over the 14%.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      I used to enjoy Inside Science but over the last year it has been affected by Wokevid and there is no cure except to de-licence.

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  12. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Good evening

    Authorities say there are ‘multiple casualties’ following a large explosion near Bristol

    Avon and Somerset Police declared a major incident following an explosion at a water recycling centre in Avonmouth, near Bristol. Authorities confirmed there have been multiple casualties as a result of the explosion, which occurred late Thursday morning.

    No news yet whether it’s a Diversity explosion.

    BBC reports:

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  13. StewGreen says:

    The UK government’s illogical attitude towards Covid safety

    In South Africa people would tell stories of coming home in a rain storm
    and finding the garden boy in a raincoat and hat watering the plants.
    “It’s 4pm, maam I always water the plants at 4pm”

    We have Garden Boy Boris failing to acknowledge that we have had 5 million people who’ve survived Covid
    and treating them as if they have zero immunity.
    It should make a hell of a lot of difference if the other guys in your work team have immunity.

    Likewise it would be intelligent to look for people who have natural immunity.
    You’d be looking to see if Covid has managed to sweep through some households twice.
    There seem to be lots of case where the wife sharing a bed with her husband never got Covid when their husbands did etc.
    If there are occasions where such partners themselves later got Covid that would disprove that they had natural immunity.
    but if such close contact people never got Covid, you could put them on a list of the probably-immune.

    Likewise when it comes to shutting businesses, it seems to close businesses wholesale, without considering more case by case thinking.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      The first Pfizer vaccine is basically a micro dose of Covid, small enough to be defeated, but enough to teach the body to recognise it as the enemy and not be tricked into replicating it if it’s ever encountered again.
      In other words it gives immunity.
      All well and good except a central plank of the government’s project fear is you can’t gain immunity to Covid….eg to emphasise this the PM, despite having had Covid, recently self isolated.

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      • Dave S says:

        If that is so then what happens to an asymptomatic covid case who is given the vaccine? Answer is not forthcoming.

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      • Dave S says:

        If that is so then what happens to an asymptomatic covid case who is given the vaccine? Answer is not forthcoming.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    BBC News having a tricky time screwing over the U.K. and US, Don, Boris and Joe, in a coherent manner. But here’s a doctor:

    “The top US infectious disease expert has said that the UK was not as rigorous as the US in its Covid vaccine approval process.”

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Local ITV news
    Pretend outrage “Hull is not on the list of first vaccine centres”
    – clip of Hull Labour MP
    – clip of wife of woman who died of Covid
    .. same woman who was on last night.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Now Deeping St James village
      The Lincolnshire side is in tier 3
      The Peterborough side is in tier 2
      legally the tier 3 people cannot cross the bridge
      The contradiction is that it is Peterborough tier 2 region that has the highest Covid rate.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Now “foodbanks don’t have the right food for BAME”

      spokes woman “imagine you can come to the foodbank that reminds you of the food back home !”
      .. Yes she said that the people her foodbank is feeding don’t regard Britain as home.
      Now I’m sure people who have temporary refuge from genuine war and are waiting to go back don’t regard Britain as home
      but I bet they aren’t that fussy,

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  16. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    November was the deadliest month of the pandemic in India’s capital Delhi and the city’s crematoriums are overwhelmed.

    bbc.in/3oknkrF

    ***
    The ensuing comments are… lively.

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  17. G.W.F. says:

    BBC news at 6pm lays it on heavily regarding the virus. Yoo Pim stresses the number of deaths and warns of extended controls to defeat the virus. Very clear the BBC is promoting uncritical acceptance of the vaccine.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    At least some musos know what gets coverage…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55047469

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    • StewGreen says:

      Link takes her to long item about popstar being interviewed on a climate activist prog
      100% looks like it should on Greenpeace website, not on the BBC.

      Another band Massive Attack tweeted
      “As artists we can demand that change. ”

      Look how the headline was even more hyperbolic
      but they’ve toned it down.
      EoUNWEnWMAEjho8?format=png&name=small

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      • Guest Who says:

        So just as Grant opens a door, Edwin and Matt jump out a window.

        Bet they are exempted.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Fair play to the musician who just wants to make music, rather than be a brainwashed climate bitch.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    So long as we have Lurch and Labour, all will be well.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Seemed to have missed China off the chart
      +1.8 growth…

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    • Northern Voter says:

      Using Diane Abbot’s school of maffematicks, should the FU figures not be 31.2%, if you include Germany, Italy and France?

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  20. Guest Who says:

    It’s not like anyone at the bbc does any work of value.

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  21. Guest Who says:

    Grant has just pissed off the rest of the country in a doomed effort to appease the twitterati.

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    • StewGreen says:

      He’s triple ratioed for that special treatment for the Guardianland luvvie class
      very Some Animals are More Equal than others #1984

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  22. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news : tech poverty
    Guy has old phone
    talks about poor 4G signal and not easy to make video calls

    FFS there is no 4G in my village
    and I’ve worked with internet 25 year and never made a video call.

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  23. digg says:

    After yesterday’s anti-UK bilge I commented on re covid and the Gov efforts yesterday by Tom Peck, the Independents resident UK hater…

    Today that beacon of British values, John Grace of the Guardian takes up the baton to pour scorn on anyone feeling remotely proud of their Country….

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/03/manchild-gavin-williamson-plumbs-new-depths-of-stupidity-with-vaccine-drivel

    Grace says…

    “Much to everyone’s surprise, we have learned that Boris Johnson can – just occasionally – engage his brain before speaking.”

    “Just imagine. A prime minister known for being a lying, opportunistic chancer actually decided to tell the truth for once.”

    Of Williamson he says

    “You’d have thought that Williamson might want to cut his losses at that point and try to steer the conversation back to his department’s plans to make exams easier next year. Or failing that, plans to admit girls to Eton: something that may have led to some unwanted pregnancies in Boris’s time.”

    Bordering on libel I would have though?

    And all this because Gavin Williamson welcomed the speed the UK are getting the vaccine up and running in this Country and thereby leading other Counties, (The EU especially!).

    Grace is less than nice about Williamson, almost resorting to playground bullying and chanting in his spitting hatred.

    Just another sulking Remainer spewing bile like a child who can’t have some sweets….

    As Pike who Grace compares to Williamson, would have said “They don’t like it up ’em!”

    Complete Tossers and what a rag the Guardian has become!
    But I imagine this bullshit probably makes the typical blinkered Guardian bubble reader feel a warm glow.

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  24. taffman says:

    On the 16 November we had……………
    “Brexit: PM confident UK ‘will prosper’ without EU trade deal”

    Today we get …………..
    “Brexit: UK-EU trade talks down to the wire”

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Gabby knew who to talk to and what to say for the money quote. Some might say the BBC is a stoker in chief.

    ****

    BBC News

    “Somebody’s going to get killed if this continues.”

    Gabriel Sterling, a Georgia election official, spoke to the BBC after saying President Trump will bear responsibility for violence that results from unsubstantiated election fraud claims he’s stoked.

    hbbc.in/3mCVdDD

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  26. Guest Who says:

    Another beeboid.

    Another nice home.

    Another roaring open fire.

    Marianna liked it.

    Matt may have issues.

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  27. Guest Who says:

    And then there is Adrian.

    We’ll always have Adrian.

       17 likes

  28. Guest Who says:

    Lurch hits a Dilemma.

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  29. Concrete sea says:

    Suspected people smuggling gang arrested so the Beeb tells us.
    A 36 year old British Syrian man has been arrested. Not quite sure if he is British or Syrian. Never mind, he obviously is in a gang, all one of him, the others arrested earlier in the year. Meanwhile £28 million is being given to our French friends to stop the dinghy crossings -as winter approaches – doh !
    Ongoing and increasing is the number of illegals hiding in or under freight lorries via ferry.
    What the public might be unaware of is that if a person or persons are found in an HGV it will invariably result in the container being ‘contaminated’ and therefore its contents destroyed (this does happen). If you fail to get a nice satsuma in your Christmas stocking this year, don’t worry it was wasted in a good cause.

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    • StewGreen says:

      A Syrian crime gang that has helped smuggle more than 600 migrants across the Channel has been exposed, as immigration investigators say they are close to taking out its top ranks.
      Immigration enforcement officers mounted a dawn raid on the north-west London home of a man, said to be one of the gang’s most senior bankers.
      He has allegedly been responsible for laundering hundreds of thousands of pounds from migrants to help finance the crossings from a small ground-floor flat that he shares with his wife and children.
      The 36-year-old British national of Syrian origin ..

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/03/banker-people-smuggling-gang-arrested-london-dawn-raid-home/

      BTW Last time it was a 36 yo Iraqi,
      Sept : Jailed – the people smuggler who was tracked by drone: Iraqi, 36, was filmed by ‘eye in the sky’ unmanned aircraft while he was at the helm of inflatable boat crossing from France https://mol.im/a/8766543

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  30. StewGreen says:

    9pm Andrew Marr begins his survey of Britain in the current Queen’s reign with a trans activist.
    James Morris, who later transitioned to become Jan Morris, one of the emblematic post-war “change- makers” this series celebrates.
    following the rigid, class-obsessed Britain of the 1950s to the more liberal, inclusive society
    Andrew Marr begins by taking in the liberal victories of the `permissive society’ – as well as the ferocious backlash of middle England at the perceived erosion of family values.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Nothing “perceived” about it. Mind you, Red Andy the groper would not agree.

      Just don’t mention the superinjunction. I did it once, but I think I got away with it.

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  31. Dobyns says:

    Probably not to be mentioned on al beeb …

    From the Times …

    ************

    Mosques raided in French crackdown against ‘political Islam’

    Charles Bremner

    Thursday December 03 2020, 5.00pm,
    The Times

    Mosques and prayer halls across France have been raided by police as part of what the government has called a crackdown on political Islam.

    All 2,600 places of Muslim worship nationwide are due to be inspected with plans to close dozens of them.

    Gerald Darmanin, the interior minister, called the raids today in Paris, Lyons, Marseilles and other cities as “a massive and unprecedented action against separatism”.

    The right-wing minister, appointed by President Macron in July, is leading an offensive against what Mr Macron calls the separatist doctrines that incite terrorism and hostility towards the French nation and its values.

    The drive, started in September and run by the police intelligence service, accelerated after the deaths of four people in two terrorist attacks, including the beheading of Samuel Paty, a school teacher, in the outskirts of Paris.

    “Seventy-six mosques suspected of separatism are going to be inspected in the coming days and those that should be closed will be closed,” Mr Darmanin said.

    In October the influential Pantin Great Mosque in a poor northern suburb of Paris was closed after it shared a video on its Facebook page before Mr Paty’s attack that vented hatred against him for showing pupils caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

    The video, posted by the parent of a pupil, was seen by a Chechen-born 18-year-old in Normandy who went to the school and murdered Mr Paty as he left the premises.

    The government has drawn criticism from rights activists and some left-wing campaigners for also closing the Muslim charity BarakaCity and a civil rights group that monitors hate crimes, the Collective Against Islamophobia in France.

    Mr Darmanin, whose zeal for law and order has upset many MPs in Mr Macron’s centrist party, La République en Marche, said he had no quarrel with most of France’s six million Muslims. He was aiming at what he called “the enemy within”. These were “concentrated areas, places of worship which are clearly anti-Republican, where imams are followed by the intelligence services and where the discourse runs counter to our values,” he told RTL Radio.

    The interior ministry is also responsible for carrying out Mr Macron’s drive to promote a French Islam that would sever links with foreign states that finance many of the country’s mosques, provide their imams and pay for charities and faith teaching. The police crackdown is to spread from places of worship to “the whole ecosystem” of Islam in France, officials said.

    Among the measures to enforce compliance with the principles of French citizenship, Mr Macron is creating a “charter of republican values” that all imams will be required to sign in return for state recognition.

    The French Muslim Council, which represents nine Muslim associations, is due to meet Mr Macron this week to confirm the text. It will include recognition of France’s strict secularism and gender equality among other so-called republican values as well as rejection of Islam as a political movement and acceptance of a ban on foreign influence.

    Despite misgivings, the Muslim council has accepted the principle of the charter. “We do not all agree on what this charter of values is, and what it will contain,” Chems-Eddine Hafiz, the council vice-president and rector of the Paris Grand Mosque, said. But the context of radical Islam and terrorism meant that “we are at a historic turning point for Islam in France, we Muslims are facing our responsibilities”.

    Mr Macron has proposed more Arabic-language teaching in state schools and emphasised that he is targeting Islamists who reject France’s laws and values, not Muslims as a whole, but his reassurances have done little to calm an outcry in Pakistan, Turkey and other Muslim countries, where he is being depicted as waging an anti-Muslim crusade.

    Paris has brushed off personal attacks on Mr Macron from President Erdogan of Turkey. Mr Macron has also been waging a counter-offensive in western media complaining in interviews and letters to editors that false information is being reported about his anti-radical drive and that France’s tradition of secularism is badly misunderstood, especially by media from English-speaking countries.

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    • JimS says:

      A good start but:

      Yarden Mariuma, sociologist at Columbia University, writes: “Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie. A concept whose meaning has varied significantly among Islamic sects, scholars, countries, and political regimes, it nevertheless is one of the key terms used by recent anti-Muslim polemicists.

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    • G says:

      Dobyns,
      I’ll bet the police collected many AK47’s and other associated items.

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  32. vlad says:

    Hey BBC, let me spell it out for you:

    V.I.D.E.O. E.V.I.D.E.N.C.E. O.F. F.R.A.U.D.

    WHEN are you going to stop LYING?

       16 likes

    • JimS says:

      Probably best watched here without the crazy man backdrop!

      For those without the time to watch most of the staff and all of the poll watchers leave the room then four girls proceed to tabulate votes pulled out of crates that have been stored under a table.

      Clearly baseless evidence of wrong-doing though!

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      • Guest Who says:

        Clearly nothing to see there.

        Marianna can rest easy.

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      • Nibor says:

        something wrong .
        clicked on your ,here, to go to a 50s youtube video about retarded children .

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        • JimS says:

          Sorry about that.

          Firefox/YouTube seems to have developed a habbit of saving the video headline but actually linking to something else. (Actually I find that something similar can happen with suggested videos on the right hand side, click on one of those and YouTube delivers something else. At a guess I would think it is a Firefox caching problem rather than YouTube playing games. In this particular case I actually opened the original URL in a new tab as a pre-publication check and the right video appeared! These browser caches can have minds of their own.)

          Try this instead.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    Josh

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    • JimS says:

      From Urban Dictionary, (not the most reliable source).

      “When one blows air into anothers ear they want to have sex.. “

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  34. Guest Who says:

    The thick plotten..

    ***

    Dr Fauci said he didn’t mean to “imply any sloppiness” and walked back comments about the speed of UK vaccine approval.

    The top US infectious disease expert said he has “great faith” in the UK scientific community and regulators, and apologised for any “misunderstanding”.

    bbc.in/36D4czq

    ****

    Can’t wait for the next episode. With “quotes”.

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  35. Kaiser says:

    There ain’t no way to hide your lyin’ eyes

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  36. BigBrotherCorporation says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/election-us-2020-55151424

    Why Donald Trump keeps outperforming the polls

    You really want to watch Ms Biteitoffer (and she does look like she bites off a lot of chocolate) from about 1.50 onwards.

    If anyone suggested they thought I was in the ‘bottom 50%’ (of what?! intelligence? wealth? social status? right to exist? human genepool?) I don’t think I’d be too keen to ‘engage’ with them either.

    Apparently the ‘political right’ has ‘found value in getting people to distrust government’ (does she mean the media? think they’re doing a good job of that themselves), and have therefore been ‘persuaded’ to ‘divest themselves from civic participation’…

    I return to my point about describing people as ‘bottom 50%’, really if you want people to: talk to you, agree with you, support you, vote for you, etc… I’d suggest calling them: the ‘bottom 50%’, ‘deplorable’, ‘stupid’, ‘old’, ‘racist’, ‘uneducated’ etc…. is perhaps not the best approach?

    “Hey, dad, you stupid, racist, old git, could I ask for an advance on my pocket money this week? I just thought you wouldn’t mind as you’re such an uneducated, ignorant, old cretin? I take it, that’s a ‘no’ then, dad? Dad? I was asking nicely…”

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    • Seppers says:

      That is right.
      Something that really shocked and worried me during the EU referendum campaign was something circulating on social media that suggested that, if you were still undecided about how to vote, you could check out their list of people’s voting intentions (for Remain/Leave) by… age, south/north, educational attainment, social status, etc etc
      Eg just basically saying ‘vote Remain and don’t associate yourself with the thickos etc’.
      The psychology had the reverse effect on me. I was wavering, but the arrogance of this assisted in pushing me to vote for Leave.
      Similarly as I watched the clip of Clinton calling those people deplorable I knew she had lost.
      And it’s when I stopped identifying as left-wing after 30 years.

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  37. Guest Who says:

    Just when you thought the bbc could dig no deeper…. they ‘plan to premiere a new movie’. Apparently:

    ***

    “Covid-19 is defined by my partner of nine years leaving me.”

    Around the world, the stress of the pandemic has forced couples to re-evaluate their relationships, even leading some to split up or divorce. #CutThroughTheNoise

    ***

    Sounds a must see.

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  38. StewGreen says:

    The BBC culture is to be biased against the right
    … It’s wrong to say the BBC is lefty
    cos its culture is a particular kind of left .. metroliberal/globalist/anti-Brexit/OpenBorders
    so BBC doesn’t like Corbyn

    However lefty PR tricksters can torture data to try to claim the BBC is anti lefty ..thread

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  39. Guest Who says:

    As ever, Lurch has pushed the reporting envelope of three letters into new areas.

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  40. Guest Who says:

    #ccbgb

    Hope Mishal has a chart accurate to 1% when measuring ‘disabled’.

    Though BBC Scotland is likely a rich seam.

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    • Kaiser says:

      less homo’s on the tele brilliant stuff,

      oh he didnt mention that phaaa

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    • Sluff says:

      12% disabled ?????
      Who are they going to recruit?
      People who have headaches?
      People who have stubbed their toes?

      Clearly white able bodied British males need never apply again for anything at the dreadful BBC.

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      • Kaiser says:

        take a walk thru burnley rochdale oldham et al and spot the proliferation of walking sticks and blue badges

        “registered disabled” lol another great wheeze to fleece the tax payer

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      • Deborah says:

        I worked in a college where people with asthma were considered disabled – helped considerably when writing bids for funding.

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    • Dave S says:

      A better mission critical would be to make shows people actually watch. In the end the BBC will die of lack of talent and audience.

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    • Guest Who says:

      More bbc ‘targets’?

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      • StewGreen says:

        That Question Time questionnaire is not new
        They attempt to balance the population.
        but I don’t know how they deal with people who just lie.

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  41. Sluff says:

    OT but three cheers for ITV news.
    And not expected on BBC news.

    They feature Paul Tucker. He went into Medway hospital with a bladder issue, testing coronavirus negative on entry.

    But he caught it in there , and then the staff seemed to blame him for putting other patients at risk !!!!!! FFS.

    A few days later, he died.
    The NHS are totally guilty of shocking malpractice but there will be no accountability, as usual. Just blind approval for our NHS heroes by the gullible majority population.

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  42. taffman says:

    “Dr Fauci apologises for saying UK ‘rushed’ vaccine”
    Joust who is this guy ?

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    • tarien says:

      Irrespective of this Fauci being somewhat of a trouble maker in the USA, In fact I think his comments were justified, the vaccine development has been rushed-Transparency as to its composition, as to a number of other important issues required before being offered to the public, one could argue is very suspect. Big Pharma and very powerful interventionists pulling weak government strings. As said before I shall not be anxious to have a needle jabbed into my arm before I know what’s in it and more to its effects. Control over our lives being tested-a subjugated people become easier to except anything, no questions asked.

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  43. taffman says:

    “Climate change: UK aims to cut emissions by 68% by end of 2030”
    Great Britain’s industrial base will be finished , while China, India and the US will be laughing at us.

    We are being run by a by a bunch of virtual signalling, moronic morons that have never had a real job, or come to that matter never, worked in industry.

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    • Dobyns says:

      taff, with all due respect …

      It doesn’t matter a whit since we have no industrial base left.

      Successive governments from Wilson on have made sure of that believing that transitioning to a service economy was the way forward

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      • JamesArthur says:

        Dobyns

        The Govt needs to be a bit more Trumpian. Tell people to buy British and ask companies if their products are British made – I do and avoid all Chinese goods.. We need to incentivise manufacturing…not the public sector

        but how many people can be bothered…these Green idiots all buy Chinese manufactured phones and laptops and products shipped around the world . while China builds coal powered stations to power its manufacture
        The UK is just outsourcing its emissions and as Taffman says

        they are all laughing at us as we sink into a third world country..

        When will we ever get a Government that is proud of the UK, its history and culture and wants to build it…

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    • tarien says:

      Can’t argue with those comments taffman, ‘a bunch of virtual signalling, moronic morons-morons are usually moronic-anyway we are in a very serious state of affairs with very powerful people pulling the strings. Deomcracy is under threat.

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  44. taffman says:

    Yes but we can’t build our base with the Green Party in charge while our opponents pollute the globe and sell to us what we used ri

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  45. Darcy3 says:

    Whilst the bbc demand knighting drivers of fast cars (it WILL happen because he is black) and self flagellate ourselves over the past with the bbc at the helm as chief ringleader

    https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/who-was-edith-cavell

    Who Was Edith Cavell?

    Edith Cavell (1865-1915) was a British nurse, working in German-occupied Belgium during the First World War. She helped hundreds of British, French and Belgian soldiers escape the Germans and was arrested, tried and executed in 1915.

    Edith was born in the village of Swardeston, Norfolk. She was the daughter of a rector and worked as a governess in Belgium, before training to be a nurse in London. She worked in hospitals in Shoreditch, Kings Cross and Manchester and then accepted a position in Brussels as Matron in Belgium’s first training hospital and school for nurses. There was no established nursing profession in Belgium at the time of Edith’s appointment, and her pioneering work led her to be considered the founder of modern nursing education in that country. She was in Norfolk visiting her mother when the First World War broke out in 1914. On hearing of the threat to Belgium, from the advancing German troops, she felt it was her duty to return to Brussels immediately.

    The dog on the left, “Jack” was rescued after her execution.

    Pre-War Life in Brussels – A portrait of nurse Edith Cavell as she sits in a garden her two dogs. The dog on the right, “Jack” was rescued after her execution.
    © IWM (Q 32930)
    © IWM (Q 32930)

    By 20 August, Brussels was occupied by the Germans. The nursing school became a Red Cross hospital, treating casualties from both sides, as well as continuing to treat civilians. In September 1914, Edith was asked to help two wounded British soldiers trapped behind German lines following the Battle of Mons. She treated the men in her hospital and then arranged to have them smuggled out of Belgium into the neutral Netherlands. She became part of a network of people who sheltered Allied soldiers and Belgians eligible for military service, arranging their escape. Over the next 11 months she helped around 200 British, French and Belgian soldiers, sheltering them in the hospital and arranging for guides to take them to the border. On 5 August 1915, she was arrested for this activity and placed in solitary confinement in St Gilles Prison in Brussels.

    Edith was tried at court martial on 7 October 1915, along with 34 other people involved in or connected to the network. She was found guilty and sentenced to death. She was shot by a firing squad at the Tir National, the Brussels firing range, on 12 October 1915.

    Although her execution was legal under international law, it caused outrage in Britain and in many neutral countries, such as the United States. She became a symbol of the Allied cause, and her memory was invoked in recruitment posters and messages in Britain and around the world.

    After the war, her body was exhumed and escorted to Britain. A memorial service was held at Westminster Abbey, and she was reburied in Norwich Cathedral.

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  46. Darcy3 says:

    Apparently our en aychess girls are getting tired, bless

    ‘We are fighting but we are tired’: Nurse begs people to stick to social distancing rules and urges families to rethink seeing one another for Christmas as she says healthcare workers feel ‘hopeless’ over the Covid-19 crisis

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9000665/Nurse-shares-candid-plea-begs-people-stick-social-distancing-rules.html

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  47. Darcy3 says:

    “fighting” yeh right, they will not even answer the phone and approach a GP ? my God one would think the black death plague has re appeared

    it is quite informing as has been commented on here by others the left love a good plague

    the lefty shops (selling the hippy things) with signs all over the place and one, even saying you will sanitise even if you are wearing gloves ffs

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  48. Darcy3 says:

    But quite happy to pop into Waitrose, one needs one’s gin of course

    and some dolphin friendly nuclear free, free range salad

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  49. vlad says:

    Here’s another huge story for the BBC to ignore: the CIA, FBI, MSM and various institutions were complicit in propagating the anti-Trump ‘RussiaGate’ hoax that they knew to be a lie originating from Clinton, with Obama’s knowledge.

    Has there ever been a time in history when the BBC has wilfully ignored so many huge scandals out of partisanship?

    Defund the BBC, now!

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  50. taffman says:

    “Government to cut £1bn from rail budget”
    Does this include the waste spent on Hs2?

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