Start the Week Thread 24 May 2021

Fortunately for those of us who see the BBC as a monster the Bashir Affair is continuing to fester. However there is little sign of the current government being willing to do anything about it at all – even with the outright condemnation of the future King . But public pressure is building . It won’t take much to force reform or better still – destruction.

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440 Responses to Start the Week Thread 24 May 2021

  1. Fedup2 says:

    Scroblene
    How could anyone be bored to death when there are so many comments on this and other anti BBC sites?

    I was ‘ in the air ‘ most of monday so am catching up

    I saw that the culture minister has said the BBC must reflect British values or lose the licence fee.

    I can imagine hoards of layers of BBC managers trying to work out what he means. Maybe it sounds better in pidgin

    Somebody in the BBC is going to be giving a shed load of money to a consultant mate
    ( bashir and hall partners LPP?) to explain “british”…

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    • Guest Who says:

      Explanations of ‘British’ from the BBC?

      Uh huh.

      The remake starring Lammy and Abbott will be to die for.

      Trust nobody.

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    • Scroblene says:

      Ha ha ha, Fed – glad to see you on solid ground again anyway!

      This whole crowd in Downing Street keep saying the same thing, i.e., ‘we must do something etc etc etc…’, but they never actually do anything about the problem with so many issues like illegal immigration and of course the awful BBC’s deceit, hypcrisy, and general poor quality.

      It’s all ‘talk the talk’ and very little else!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Scrob
        Travelling from heathrow is … interesting . They dont even do a temperature test before getting on the plane .

        I think that is … strange because if you go to church or the dentist or an apple shop they test you.

        But you do have to fill in a form …

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  2. Guest Who says:

    OT, but maybe… the MSM heading straight for Abbott, YAB, Lammy, Butler and a half dozen others from the pooled brain commentary gutter is actually designed to keep Labour out for ever?

    Or just help mates sell books? Like American Booty, Lurch, Nick and Katty do in a circle of jerks Stateside?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Also Sky.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘The difference’ promoted by the media since then has really worked so well, has it not?

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        • vlad says:

          But look how high the support remains among Dems – despite everything BLM have done, and everything we now know about them. Unbelievable. They deserve their imbecilic President.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I saw this, and the interviewer Stephen (?) did tell Lammy that our government had already done that ! Lammy says a lot of long words to sound intelligent, but he didn’t actually say anything. But he did admit that the BAME in this country only amount to 4% of the population. (hard to believe when watching the Ads)

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  3. vlad says:

    On their website, the BBC choose an interesting video clip for their very sympathetic story on Sasha Johnson of BLM.

    In it she sounds (almost) moderate, (almost) reasonable; and keen to educate children on black history – which, by a strange coincidence, is a BBC priority as well. (Type ‘black history’ in their search box and you’ll get literally hundreds of BBC videos. Oh, and Christ was black, by the way.)

    Nothing about Johnson calling to defund the police, who are as bad as the KKK; or capitalism being evil and inseparable from racism; or Marxist ideology; or the need for black militias and revolution.

    Just educating the children – who could argue with that?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57223755

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Revisionism continues apace.

      The forthcoming Ceebeebies special hosted by Nish on the Maid of Peckham will doubtless see a whole new generation re-educated.

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    • digg says:

      Vlad, contrast the baying calls for justice and the incarceration of the killer over the Floyd death by the BBC and the hordes of the oppressed and their reaction to this death.

      Where are the mobs in the streets, the placards, the T-Shirts, the light shows on walls, the looting and carnage?

      Speaks volumes!

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    • JohnC says:

      Here she is in her true light:


      What’s clear to me from the video is that she has been coached in how to talk to the audience. However, she’s a bit thick and cannot carry it off so it sounds like the script it is.
      She has definitely been chosen for the part due to her backgound and looks. It’s all an act for the camera.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I tend to think she looks like she’s been rooting around in the dressing up box, with the Michael Crawford beret and Rambo joggers – but what’s with the fingerless half gloves ????

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    • Northern Voter says:

      No, Christ was blacked, not black. He wouldn’t work a 37 hour week.

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  4. Guest Who says:

    BBC’s version of ‘When Harry Met Nadia’ is set to be a smash.

    The twist is they are to be played by themselves, not people nothing like them, so they can avoid stresses and publicity.

    Apparently.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      To have PTSD which stands for Post traumatic stress disorder, you first have to have suffered a life threatening traumatic incident. Whittome who is the typical upper middle class out of touch bleeding heart privately educated White woman has nothing in her history to indicate any kind of incident which might lead to such a condition.

      However given the fragile nature of these snowflakes dropping a boiled sweet out of its wrapper onto the floor probably counts as a traumatic incident to them!

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      • JohnC says:

        There is a line where anyone below it who whines and feels sorry for themselves should be told to get a grip and sort themselves out before they disappear into a pool of self-pity.
        Not to confuse that with people with real mental health problems of course.
        The Left – in their constant search for victims to satisfy their feelings of moral superiority – have lowered that line to the point every weak person thinks they are a victim and deserve lots of attention.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Your middle sentence is the key.

          Which is why this whole ‘story’ bears sympathetic but diligent investigation, as opposed to a BBC #prasnews cut and paste.

          Post Ginger Whinger, the whole exposing scrambled brains to the world has been exploited by the cynical using the thick.

          Meghan with Harry and, clearly, Labour with this poor mite. The only winners being the media and… those who gain from such exposure.

          The damage to the tools used is irrelevant to both.

          Now Harry was handed a dodgy deck. Skilfully then propelled from necessary obscurity by an ambitious publicity houndess.

          Nadia was, and is, a grown up with free will and choices.

          Clearly ambitious, committed, passionate and deranged, but box of rocks thick, with added frogs on sanity.

          Yet… she was chosen by old, cynical men in smoky rooms to front da yoof vote. And eagerly embraced in that role by every broadcast show that could get her in the green room unprepared.

          Like AOC, a few trained parrot phrases, nice camera angle and carefully chosen non questions… bingo! Narrative served all round.

          Both love(d) seeing themselves on screen, and the adoration of the idiot box addicts they are surrounded by.

          Then… reality strikes.

          Actual voters or, worse… constituents! People with issues MPs are meant to address. No sound bite glory on Vile or twitter shares.

          Being ‘attacked’ (nasty words) can be weathered. Just dig out Ghandi’s greatest bon mots, chug a glass of the people’s fizz, get Marianna’s people to tell your people to hug her people… sorted.

          But laughing stock? Constantly. Every moment a brain-disconnected trap opens… tricker to bear.

          Especially when cynical superiors and supporters, especially in the media, sense a whiff of more harm than good.

          Like Greta, when the publicity fades, the addiction withdrawal kicks in.

          And the only thing left is to go mental publicly and hope the groupies can run irony free interference if any actual questions get asked the media won’t.

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  5. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – a chance to not ask questions

    As a fellow contributor to this site pointed out yesterday, it is strange how the BBC are happy to describe the Belorusian Election last year as ‘stolen’ but do not apply that descriptor to last year’s US Election. It is also strange that all those highly educated, highly paid journalists and presenters at the BBC cannot ask a basic question about Roman Protasevich.

    It is extremely curious why someone, who I assume is an intelligent individual and who is a stated opponent of President Alexander Lukashenko, took a commercial flight, putting himself in the hands of others, overflying the country he did not wish to return to and in which he claims he would be at mortal risk. It just does not add up – there’s a bit of a whiff about this and it is not emanating from Belorusia.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      I think it was me – the phraseology struck me – I think it was –

      ‘Widely believed to have stolen the election ‘ ….

      Which is a term not used about the false US president – whose name I cannot recall- something I have in common with him …

      I think the theft of the US election with the complicity of the MSM will have a long term effect on the legitimacy of all elections .
      I still don’t know if any MSM outlet which even questioned some of those ‘strange ‘ voting outcomes . That in itself should ring alarm bells because there is always at least one contrarian – but not that time .

      I predicted Joe would be gone in June …..

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  6. JohnC says:

    Sasha Johnson: Black Lives Matter activist shot by group of men
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-57238301
    ‘A prominent Black Lives Matter activist was shot by a group of four black men at a party in south London, police say.’
    How unfortunate for the BBC that the police made such a statement. They would never have reported it otherwise.
    And it seems all our comments about the BBC withholding certain facts and downplaying a story because the crime was done by black people whave turned out to be absolutely correct. Again.
    And where is the outrage ?. Will she be getting a gold coffin and state funeral ?. How disappointed all the BLM supporting hypocrites will be about this.

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    • vlad says:

      If only the racist police had done a bit more racist stopping and searching, they might have found the gun and prevented the shooting.

      But the likes of Khan, Lammy and Abbott won’t let them.

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      • JohnC says:

        Which is part of the exquisite irony of it. I wonder if she will recover enough to finally understand why stop and search targeted so many blacks.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Four black men dressed in black dun it.
      This sentence in the report caught my eye.


      “There was a rival gang that may have heard about someone being in that party that they didn’t feel quite comfortable with or trusted and so they resorted to driving past and shooting into the garden, and one of those shots obviously hit Sasha Johnson.”

      Well I don’t feel comfortable around many people, but I don’t drive past and shoot in their gardens.
      ”’M’Lud, my client pleads for leniency as he did not feel comfortable with people at the party”’

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/25/blm-activist-sasha-johnson-shot-garden-four-black-men-police/

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      • vlad says:

        Maybe they were playing the wrong kind of rap.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          How many fingers can you get in a hand-gun trigger guard?

          They expect normal, intelligent, people to believe that?

          Pull the other one – the one that isn’t a trigger.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Driveby doesn’t seem plausible
        .. cos that would have involved a hail of bullets aimed at the target gang
        not a single shot
        And the certainty that it was 4 black men makes it seem they got close to Sasha
        .. Of course it could be 4 white med blacked up… unlikely

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  7. theisland says:

    Labour pushing the BLM narrative today

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    • JohnC says:

      I respected George more than I respect Lammy.

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      • Peter Grimes says:

        So George zero and Lammy sub-zero, you mean?

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        • JohnC says:

          George was just George. A low-life criminal. The rest is just what the Left have made him.
          Lammy is that special kind of low-life who will use anyone and anything for his own gain. No scruples and no ethics whatsoever. And he’s so thick, it’s totally obvious.

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    • Tabs says:

      Why doesn’t Lammy say he looks a bit like Sasha Johnson and it could have been him instead of her? Same skin colour as the victim but it’s the wrong skin colour of the murderer.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      James Abbott-Thompson was found to have suffered drug-induced psychosis at his mother’s home before being sectioned under the mental health act
      Officers who attended Diane Abbott’s £1.2mn home found signs of crystal meth use in Abbott-Thompson’s room
      In court yesterday he was handed an indefinite hospital order and banned from entering the Foreign Office after attacking police officers there
      By REBECCA CAMBER FOR THE DAILY MAIL

      PUBLISHED: 22:00, 29 July 2020 | UPDATED: 22:59, 29 July 2020

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8573653/Diane-Abbotts-son-crystal-meth-delivered-1-2million-home-court-hears.html

         14 likes

      • Peter Grimes says:

        Perhaps his Ma should consult a psychiatrist. She certainly seems to suffer from some sort of psychosis, IMO.

           11 likes

    • tomo says:

      So is Lammy saying he indulges in armed house invasion and fentanyl?

         12 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        If Surkeer had a party albatross, he’d look like Dave in every tv studio.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      If David Lammy ever feels like taking three times the lethal dose of fentanyl, he will end up just like George Floyd, choking to death on the fluid in his lungs. It still won’t be murder.

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  8. Tabs says:

    Radio 5 Live with Nick Campbell about 09:05am had a telephone interview with a covid scared hysterical woman who was given 5 minutes to keep repeating herself saying, “I haven’t seen anyone apart from my mother and a friend… I was planning to see a friend in Newcastle but I don’t know what to do… the governement guidance isn’t clear… is it guidance or law I don’t know what to do…. I haven’t seen anyone apart from my mother and a friend… I was planning to see a friend in Newcastle but I don’t know what to do…”

    On and on she went repeating herself getting nowhere. She is probably a bit mental but as it was a box ticked for a bit of Tory bashing she was allowed on a live BBC broadcast.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      She will probably be on You and Yours, aka the Whinge about Tories Hour, later today.

         17 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Certainly her name is on a Post-It on Springster’s PC for when she gets back from the streets break of taking all those selfies.

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  9. MarkyMark says:

    5 Live Drive
    BBC Radio 5 Live, Monday 21 December 2020

    During an item about Covid-19 admissions in Northern Ireland, we said hospitals are “admitting four to five hundred Covid patients a day,” and when challenged we said this was correct because it was the figure given by the Northern Ireland Health Minister to a Covid-19 committee at Stormont.

    In fact the challenge was correct. The Minister, Robin Swann, had told the committee that there were between 400 and 500 Covid patients being treated at that time.

    30/03/2021
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

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    • StewGreen says:

      3 months to issue a simple apology
      that thy had mistaken an ongoing tally for the daily tally !
      If a correction is not prompt then it’s not doing a job
      This is just the same as lying., they knew it was not true, but sat on it .

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    BBC News Channel, Friday 23 July 2020

    We referred to George Floyd’s death as occurring during an encounter with white police officers. The officer who knelt on his neck is white, but two of the other three involved are not.

    01/03/2021
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

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    • Guest Who says:

      Trust them.

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    • JohnC says:

      Just looking down the list, it seems they have a lot more ‘errors’ to apologise for in favour of their agenda than there are against it.

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  11. vlad says:

    I’m sure the BBC will be bitterly disappointed that the shooters weren’t white.

    They could have could have had their very own home-grown George Floyd martyr, and months of Burning, Looting and Murdering, which they would have milked to the last drop with endless articles and news bulletins pouring petrol on the flames. They would have blamed the Tories (not Khan of course) and tried to use it to bring down the government.

    Poor BBC.

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    • JohnC says:

      It should of course be used as a justification to campaign for a huge clampdown on black gangs along with all the stop-and-search which goes with it.
      But instead the BBC will do what they always do: just clinically report what happened and not go anywhere near why. Same as every terrorist attack for years now.

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  12. SpinningReith says:

    Thoughtful MAY 25, 2021 AT 9:05 AM
    “…Whittome who is the typical upper middle class out of touch bleeding heart privately educated White woman has nothing in her history to indicate any kind of incident which might lead to such a condition…”

    Daughter of a Punjabi father and Anglo-Indian mother…?
    Did I miss a bit of sarcasm there?
    Sorry, gotta go, the police are kicking my front door in.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Kamala and Meghan know what it is like to be thought of as white when in fact you see Naomi Campbell in the mirror.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    At risk of counter come 3am, I sense… #CCBGB

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    • Guest Who says:

      Ps: Love that ‘you’, Timmeh!

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    • vlad says:

      Alex Belfield (whistleblower) is having none of it.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Shades of Pollard, Smiffy?

      Not Balen?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC Interview BBC about failings of BBC and say it’s going to be all right as the BBC change ….

      “He said that a total of 589 alleged victims of abuse had come forward in the inquiry, of whom 450 alleged abuse by Savile. Of the alleged victims, 82% were female and 80% were children or young people. There were 31 allegations of rape by Savile across seven police force areas.”

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  14. BRISSLES says:

    How have we reached the stage where kids of 11 and 12 are now self declaring at having ‘mental’ issues ??? as seen on news stories yesterday.
    Like this ‘trans gender’ business, our kids seem to be brain washed into being something they probably aren’t.

    Who on this site can honestly say when as a kid that they didn’t even consider or know anyone who thought about wanting to be the opposite sex ? or even knew what ‘mental’ issues was all about ? I was too occupied in being a child – playing / getting into trouble / doing homework and getting giggly about boys at that age. I believe this constant barrage of ‘information’ is feeding into the neurosis of parents which then feeds down to kids who then believe they have ‘issues’.

    I was unusual as a child, as at age 13 my mother did have a ‘nervous breakdown’ and was carted off to a mental health unit for a while, after which she was then on a cocktail of old fashioned drugs no longer used. It certainly didn’t affect me or my brothers, we just carried on with life ! Yes we got the tummy quivers before a school exam and that was about it.

    Yet now we have a generation of kids who cant cope / have anxiety attacks / and seem to be aware of it at 13 for God’s sake !

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    • Guest Who says:

      Mine at around 4 found Mum’s wigs and found it hilarious parading around as Cousin It.

      Mid teens I needed advice from the BBC on how I talked to them about not charging on bikes at each other with wooden poles even if they had boxing gloves on.

      Was it provided? No. Trauma? No.

      I simply advised them what would happen, and when the gloves fell off as predicted with consequences told them so.

      Sorted.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Brissles, I think it is evil. Pure evil. The Global Warming/Climate Change thing is getting adults worried – or so said adults tell us – but with children it is terrifying them and giving them all sorts of mental health problems. Ginge & Whinge are quite good illustrations of that.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Brissles – as a boy who never grew up I was happily blissfully ignorant of the sexual practices the kids now seem to be told about at a earlier and earlier age .

      But I’m a strong believer in ‘goes around comes around ‘ – but of course when you are living in the present it is hard to see a change for the better .

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  15. MarkyMark says:

    BLM! BLM! BLAME!
    Diane Abbott’s son had crystal meth delivered to her home when she was Shadow Home Secretary, a court heard yesterday.

    The diplomat is then said to have chased her around her £1.2million home with scissors, claiming he had a gun in his dressing gown pocket.

    James Abbott-Thompson was high on a cocktail of drugs when he started ‘threatening his mother with violence’. He then went on a drug-induced rampage, attacking nine police officers, doctors, nurses and security guards at various hospitals.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8573653/Diane-Abbotts-son-crystal-meth-delivered-1-2million-home-court-hears.html

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    • G.W.F. says:

      MarkyMark

      His skin must be white. Bet he watches vids of Trump rallies.

         8 likes

  16. MarkyMark says:

    “I am tendering my resignation because for some time past I have been conscious that I was wasting my own time and the public money on doing work that produces no result. I believe that in the present political situation the broadcasting of British propaganda to India is an almost hopeless task.”

    Orwell’s resignation letter from the BBC 24.9.43

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    Fascinating mindset piece in the Gaeudian by the Toynbee. It refers to ‘the BBCs enemies ‘. Yet it doesn’t consider why the BBC should have enemies . It doesn’t ask if the BBC does anything wrong .
    But then Toynbee isn’t really a ‘reflector ‘ – she just spouts the stuff which keeps we’re column going and the guest of the BBC .

    Between the line she and her type are sounding anxious about the future of their BBC . And so they should be . if Brillo TV is as attractive to viewers ( and advertisers ) as many – including me – reckon it will be – then the BBC will have more naval gazing to do – despite being blind to reality .

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  18. MarkyMark says:

    FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!

    Covid: Eight Indian variant areas should avoid indoor gatherings

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-57232728

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    BE FRIGHTENED !

    Maybe there needs to be new traffic signs

    ‘warning virus ahead “

    ……and plod pulls you over to do a PRC test ….

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  20. s.trubble says:

    I was hoping that Bashirgate would lead to urgent calls to unmask the entirety of the upper echelon of bBC senior management during this period. There must be a significant network at play which accounts for the decayed state this nation al organ now finds itself.

    Surely Brexit revealed the way this bBC network used every political show and news output to heavily stack the “deck” in favour of remain?

    However, when Dimbelby slumped in his chair with the now infamous word “We,re Out” that same 17.4 million people
    can now reflect on the imposition of an unwanted Licence Fee
    used to richly reward an organisation which no longer reflects their views.

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  21. MarkyMark says:

    Scores of Jimmy Savile’s victims describe abuse at Stoke Mandeville
    This article is more than 6 years old
    Inquiry hears how ‘revered’ celebrity raped and abused hospital patients and staff with impunity, in one case in front of a TV crew

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/feb/26/scores-of-jimmy-saviles-victims-describe-abuse-at-stoke-mandeville

    One woman described how she was raped aged 12 by the late DJ after being admitted to Stoke Mandeville to have her tonsils out. Even though the encounter took place in January 1977, the woman had a vivid recollection of the hospital ward smelling of vomit and faeces. Savile, she said, smelled strongly of cigars and body odour.

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  22. MarkyMark says:

    She remembered being approached by a white-haired porter, wearing a gold medallion and a white coat, as she walked to the television room one evening after her surgery.

    The man, who she did not recognise at the time because her family did not watch television, escorted her into the room and when they were alone he pounced, raping his young victim and walking off as if nothing had happened.

    BBC … impartical .. towards rapists

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  23. Tabs says:

    What a total load of B****x !

    UK finance sector in top 10 for carbon emissions
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57232646

    If the UK’s biggest banks and investors were a country, they’d rank 9th in the world for the carbon emissions they’re responsible for.

    That’s the striking conclusion of a new analysis by Greenpeace and WWF.

    No fact checking here, the BBC just print the activism article as the truth.

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    • Old Goat says:

      Nobody emits carbon. We all consist of it in part, along with much else around us. I assume they mean CO2, which they demonise without good reason, and which helps keep us all alive. It doesn’t change the climate. But we know all this, as do they.

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  24. digg says:

    I see the BBC and it’s home guard The Guardian have gone into full diversion attack mode.

    A flood of attacks on Boris and the Conservatives. Especially racist accusations dredging up the letterbox quote etc,.

    I am sure everyone on this site knows exactly what their nasty game is and why they are doing it while under investigation for what in my opinion is basically corruption if not actual crime.

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  25. Robot says:

    Apologies if this link has been posted here previously. I don’t recollect a song and dance being made about this young white man’s arrest (directly comparable to that of George Floyd’s) on the BBC, or on any other outlet, let alone any consequential wholescale demonstrations or rioting.

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  26. MarkyMark says:

    PM’s burka comments gave impression of insensitivity – report
    Published29 minutes ago
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57239483

    – – – – – –

    Non-Muslim girls in Lincolnshire are being asked to wear a hijab for a day to raise awareness of discrimination. Ghada Mohamed said she came up with the idea in response to a number of incidents where girls wearing hijabs were subjected to abuse.4 Aug 2019

    – – – – – BLM — BLM ALERT —- BLM —-

    Many societies throughout history have practised slavery, and Muslim societies were no exception.

    It’s thought that as many people were enslaved in the Eastern slave trade as in the Atlantic slave trade.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml

       13 likes

    • R P McMurphy says:

      Great idea, now how about muslim girls wearing a bikini for a day.

         29 likes

    • Banania says:

      How many moslems are there in Lincolnshire?

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      • Northern Voter says:

        I was doing a job at Immingham Dock and fancied a bacon sarnie. Went into town saw a greasy spoon, asked for a bacon sarnie, given said sarnie, walked out. Tasted sarnie, f***ing awful. Saw a dockyard matey mentioned the taste, he told me I’d gone to the wrong shop. As it was a Muslim shop they didn’t touch bacon, it was reconstituted turkey fried. Learnt a lesson that day.

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  27. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Sensitive little souls our bearded friends.

    While committing industrial scale child abuse (grooming they call it) or blowing up children at pop concerts, hacking off peoples heads in London or just generally being extremely cruel they seem to get very upset at the slightest thing.

    Saying a woman looked a bit like a letterbox and they have all the virtue signallers rushing out to say how terrible this is.
    Where were/are those speaking for the hundreds of thousands who have been and are still being seriously abused.

    Strange to say it but be thankful for covid.
    Today, the news is filled with darkies grievances. Lawrence again, this Sasha girl, the ever present Floyd and this knee business.

    Covid news makes a welcome break from this incessant crap.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Covid news makes a welcome break from this incessant crap.

      Yes. An interview with Yoo Pim on Covid is a guarantee of five minutes free from BBC race baiting – unless he is reporting on how nurses of colour work harder that white nurses.

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  28. Kaiser says:

    covid passport, social credit scores

    this from TCW today doesnt seem quite that ridiculous

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/is-this-the-future-anyone-wants/

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Written in 1965 Prague and first published in Czechoslovakia in 1967, the novel opens with Ludvik Jahn looking back on the joke that changed his life in the early 1950s. Ludvik was a dashing, witty, and popular student who supported the Party. Like most of his friends, he was an enthusiastic supporter of the still-fresh Communist regime in post-World War II Czechoslovakia. In a playful mood, he writes a postcard to a girl in his class during their summer break. Since Ludvik believes she takes her enchantment with the new regime too seriously, having just sent him an enthusiastic letter about “optimistic young people filled through and through with the healthy spirit” of Marxism, he replies on the postcard, “Optimism is the opium of mankind! A healthy spirit stinks of stupidity! Long live Trotsky!” His colleagues and fellow young-party leaders did not see the humour in the sentiment expressed in the postcard. Ludvik finds himself expelled from the party and college and drafted to a part of the Czech military where alleged subversives form work brigades and spend the next few years working in mines.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joke_(novel)

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    • Thoughtful says:

      The stock in the Middle Ages were a form of public policing. If the people didn’t think someone sent there had done anything wrong they would look after them, feed them shelter them etc, but if they did think serious wrongdoing had been comitted woe betide the criminal as they would make their displeasure very well known.

         14 likes

  29. StewGreen says:

    What is twitter pushing at me now ?

    What’s happening
    22 minutes ago
    Anti-Muslim sentiment ‘remains a problem’ in the Tory party, investigation finds
    Trending with #Islamophobia

       10 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45030552

      The internal Labour row over anti-Semitism has dragged on for several years. Here’s a guide to what’s been going on.

      Anti-Semitism was generally not regarded as a big problem in the Labour Party before Jeremy Corbyn’s election as leader in September 2015.

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  30. pugnazious says:

    The BBC admits….the theory that Covid 19 came from a Chinese lab was presented as a ‘crackpot theory because Trump supported it.’ Also we hear that it just made sense that it came from animals not a lab…hmmm…despite proof that at least two previous virus outbreaks were linked to Chinese labs.

    The BBC bringing you accurate, unbiased, honest journalism not childish emoting based on their own juvenile prejudices and bigotry.

    Curious how Trump was also responsible for any anti-Asian feeling in the US due to him calling it, accurately, the ‘Chinese virus’.

    Presumably the BBC will hold itself responsible for any Indian bashing as it happily refers constantly to the ‘Indian variant’….or indeed the ‘Kent variant’….Kentish people must be living in fear of demonisation and subsequent attacks.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9615117/A-year-left-wing-news-TRASHED-theory-COVID-originated-Wuhan-lab-outlets-idea.html

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  31. StewGreen says:

    Radio4 switch-on bingo
    I switch on Radio4 and a guy is celebrating a mass gay-kiss protest in July 1972.

    The prog is about to be about senses
    but this item has been shoehorned in on the premise that a kiss is a sensory thing.

    Still it’s not like the BBC pushes these things at you frequently, is it ?
    Oh hang on, this same account is not just one of the 3 items in this Radio4 show,
    it actually has its own show on the World Service
    which is on twice today and once tomorrow too.

    Ted Brown is a black LGBT rights pioneer who helped organise the UK’s first Gay Pride
    the only person he came out to was his mother. She cried and told him he’d have to battle not just racism but homophobia too; both were rife in society at the time.
    If you need support with issues relating to sexuality or gender, help and support is available from BBC Action Line – just search for bbc.co uk/actionline

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Rwanda was originally colonised by Germany at the end of the nineteenth century. These first
      missionaries and colonisers brought with them their obsession with the classification of human kind
      according to their race and origin. This Western Pseudo-Science was influenced by the work of
      Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution. Western settlers saw themselves as culturally superior
      to the savages they had discovered and were eager to document these three new found races.
      The Twa made up 1% of the population, the Tutsis approximately 15% and the Hutus over 80% of
      the population.

      Click to access Racism-in-Rwanda.pdf

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  32. pugnazious says:

    Sasha Johnson shot in the head…oh dear, how sad, never mind. Hard not to not feel any sympathy for a woman who tried her hardest to stir up a race war…who said ‘“The white man will not be our equal but our slave. History is changing. No justice, no peace #BLM.” . Any black person who disgarees with her is a ‘coon’ or a ‘coconut’ or an ‘Uncle Tom’…she is more than ready to threaten violence to silence people….and of course is a Marxist…she has a great line in chants….‘“no justice, no peace,”“take it to the streets, f*** the police,”“black power” and “one solution, revolution.”’

    But you’d never know any of this if you read the BBC reports as they present her as nothing more than just another campaigner for racial justice….

    ‘Ms Johnson, who works in community activism and community support and got a first in social care from Ruskin College in Oxford, has been a leading figure in the Black Lives Matter movement in the UK and is a member of the TTIP’s leadership committee.’

    What’s ironic of course is that a campaigner for Black Lives doesn’t actually give a stuff for black lives…not those black lives being lost again and again on the streets of London killed mostly by other black youths….black youths who have now shot her.

    Will she reflect on her life and her priorities? Will she suddenly start to campaign to bring peace to the streets of London in order to genuinely save black lives? LOL…hell no…she’ll be back out there on the barricades blaming whitey for everything, trying to build her street cred, and more importantly her media cred, as a race champion, a defender of the oppressed black community….she will be cashing in on this big style.

    One thing you can guarantee is that she will be a major part of BBC programming from now on.

       43 likes

    • vlad says:

      ‘works in community activism’: sounds kinda warm and cuddly, doesn’t it?

      ‘and community support’: even better!

      ‘and got a first’: girl’s a genius too!

      ‘in social care’: give her a sainthood, now! And a statue next week!

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      • Peter Grimes says:

        Ruskin College is IN Oxford but not part of Oxford Uni, although it is linked to it.
        Ruskin’s degrees are awarded…drum roll….by the prestigious Open University. Tokens are accepted from Dorset Cereals as well as other providers.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        In 1986, Winnie Mandela, then-wife of the imprisoned Nelson Mandela, stated, “With our boxes of matches, and our necklaces, we shall liberate this country”, which was widely seen as an explicit endorsement of necklacing.

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      • Dobyns says:

        “Community Activism”, “Community Support” … just like a young Barry Soweto a/k/a The Kenyan Cowboy or is that the Lyin’ African

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    • Northern Voter says:

      Someone shouted “Duck” and she said “no thanks, I’m vegan”.

         6 likes

  33. Fedup2 says:

    A cut and paste from the DT from Robin Aitkin – normally has finger on pulse –

    STARTS
    There’s a rather depressing sense of deja vu about the Martin Bashir scandal. After all, we have been here before in previous BBC disasters. The holding pattern goes like this: first we get the shock revelations followed by grovelling apologies from the Corporation’s top brass; then we get the “lessons will be learned” pabulum; everyone, including government ministers, chorus in unison “this must never, ever happen again”.

    And then, slowly the outrage subsides, the news cycle moves on, and the BBC reverts to its deeply held conviction that it is, in fact, a shining city on the hill, created to enlighten the huddled masses. And gradually everything goes back to how it was.

    What I have described above is what happened in the Jimmy Savile scandal and then, subsequently, in the disastrous episode where Newsnight managed seriously to libel Lord MacAlpine, a former Tory Party treasurer, by falsely accusing him of abusing little boys in a children’s home. In both these instances the Corporation promised to make changes in “governance” and “oversight” so that such enormities could be prevented in the future. Which is exactly what is being said now; yesterday the Board of the BBC promised an overhaul of the institution’s culture so that catastrophes like the Bashir saga can never happen again.

    Forgive me for raising a dissenting, sceptical voice: I don’t think this is anything like enough. In my view the BBC has now forfeited its right to have a say in how it will be regulated in the future. This is an organisation with recidivist tendencies; why should anyone trust it now to correct deep-seated flaws when it has so obviously failed before?

    To understand how and why things have gone so wrong at the BBC we have to look at its history. The BBC was originally created as an institution which would always be independent of government. That was done for very good reasons: there was a clear understanding that the BBC could not be under the political control of the government of the day. So independence was written into the foundation constitution and that raised an immediate question; if the BBC was to be independent of government who should oversee it?

    The Trust lasted just 10 years and was itself replaced in 2017 by the BBC Board – a body which, supposedly, would be tougher and more independent than its predecessors. And in that same year the BBC was placed under the scrutiny of the communications regulator Ofcom – a move which, at the time, was supposed to herald the advent of a new era of – you guessed it – “tougher and more independent” regulation.

    And here’s a funny thing about Ofcom; if you look at its record it has, since its inception, shown itself to be remarkably tolerant of the sort of biases of which, back in 2002 , I complained to the old BBC governors. As it happens I am myself party to a long-running complaint to Ofcom about the BBC’s outrageous and quite obvious bias against the Leave side in the Brexit debate. Without wearying you with the details of what is still an ongoing action, suffice it to say that Ofcom has used every excuse so far to avoid arriving at a judgement. Their chosen strategy seems to be to spin-out the process as long as possible (well over a year now) in the hope that eventually we will just give up.

    This is not terribly surprising when you look at the personnel who run Ofcom; a strikingly high number of them are themselves ex-BBC. In fact the person who virtually designed Ofcom, Tim Suter, walked straight into his job at the regulator when he left the Corporation.

    This is the same Tim Suter who was the BBC’s managing director of current affairs and who carried out the initial investigation into Bashir’s interview with Princess Diana. His verdict on Bashir’s actions were unequivocal; they were, he said “absolutely straight and fair”! Mr Suter resigned from Ofcom last week when the details of what really happened were laid bare by Lord Dyson.

    What does this potted history tell us? To me it shows very clearly that neither the Governors, nor the Trust, nor Ofcom is up to the job of controlling the BBC; each of them failed to be tough-minded enough to challenge the BBC’s arrogant assumption of its own inherent virtue. Which means that throughout most of its history the BBC has been accountable to no-one. It has been allowed to mark its own homework with the result that misdemeanours great and small have passed unchecked and unpunished.

    What is the answer to this puzzle? Going back to first principles the BBC’s independence from government is absolutely essential: no one wants it to become just another state broadcaster pumping out the line dictated by whoever was in government. But it must no be allowed , any longer, to get away with the distortion of news values which have so disfigured it in recent years; its failure to treat Eurosceptics fairly, its adoption of the ‘woke’ agenda, the way it ‘took the knee’ for BLM – these are all things that a proper regulator would have identified and forced the BBC to correct.

    The former BBC director-general Lord Grade thinks the answer is for a new, devolved, editorial board to be created. This body of experienced journalists would directly oversee the BBC’s journalistic output. This might work: if it was tough-minded and courageous it could take on the BBC and confront its elitist assumptions. For it to make a difference it would have to be prepared to challenge the BBC’s entrenched world view; in other words it would have to be sensitive to the semi-Marxist ideology which underpins so much of the Corporation’s journalism.

    And yet, and yet. Tinkering with governance structures at the BBC has so far yielded nothing. The BBC has sailed serenely on, going its own way regardless of the formal architecture imposed on the institution; to all intents and purposes it has been unaccountable. The three iterations listed above have made no discernible difference – would another “oversight” board change anything? Perhaps – but only if the BBC is wholeheartedly committed to change and shows it by delivering real diversity.

    Diversity, that is, which is not only about the colour of your skin, or who you choose to sleep with, but which is also about political beliefs and opinions. As of now the BBC is the “citadel of woke”; it treats with contempt conservative beliefs; it seems to harbour something near hatred for the history of the country it supposedly serves.

    If some of this grotesque imbalance can be remedied by hiring new personnel and if, in addition, a new way of monitoring its journalism is adopted there is a chance the BBC can be saved from itself. Without that it is difficult to see how trust in the organisation can ever be restored. ENDS

    One of the things charitably left out of the ‘BBC outrage ‘ scandals – is that whenever they happen there is never a senior BBC manager to be found … and I don’t include the current new DG in this … they hide from accountability but take the money .

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    • vonrecht says:

      Fedup – I agree with your assessment. It is noticeable that, not only has the BBC apparently not reflected on its behaviour or taken corrective action, but it seems to have become more arrogant, partisan and strident in every way.
      A muttered apology after Bashirgate, assurances that better control systems are in place (apparently both insincere and untrue), then moving on quickly, followed by the sort of thing ‘pugnazious’ has outlined above. More deceit. More propaganda.
      Presumably, that is its actual reply to us critics: get st..fed!

         14 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Von
        As I’ve mentioned before – it would be interesting to see a sort of bubble map of the membership of OFCOM across the years in relationship to BBC employment – whether directly or indirectly – by family linkage .

        I suspect it is mainly the same swamp from which mates recruit mates with the necessary skills of looking the other way .
        A similar system must apply to that joke called the ‘executive complaints board ‘ of the BBC which only says ‘no’ ….

        There is a need to attack across all fronts to eliminate the BBC . One of the ‘comments ‘ on the Toynbee rubbish in the guardian today is ‘how admired the BBC is ‘overseas’’ – well you can have the thing and pay for it because it doesn’t serve the British who pay for it at all . Maybe the weather from
        meat – e – o

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The BBC cannot be “reformed”. We just have to stop paying them.

         11 likes

      • taffman says:

        I have already done so, what about the rest?

           4 likes

        • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

          #MeToo – I stopped over a year ago and should have done so long before that.

             2 likes

  34. Guest Who says:

    ITBB again tempted out.

    https://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2021/05/what-did-you-make-of-it.html

    JezBo will be reduced to locating a teddy bear soon.

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  35. taffman says:

    “NI Protocol: Brussels must use common sense approach”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57238226
    We should have gone WTO.
    They are running a HYS “Comments”

       11 likes

  36. taffman says:

    “Man died 16 hours after 999 call for ambulance in Llandegla”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57231298
    Why the Welsh Assembly and their ‘Trusts’ should be scrapped?

       9 likes

  37. pugnazious says:

    May last year, the same time that George Floyd died when being restrained, a white man also died in police custody in a far more brutal fashion you might think.

    The BBC reports it but with a complete lack of the same outrage and shock that they reported the death of Floyd…no BBC presenters making highly emotive and racist pleas about police brutality for the white boy though….no demands for black people to be ‘allies’ of whites…and if not ‘they’ are ‘the problem’….as Nihal and Clara Amfo demanded of white people.

    The BBC keep telling us that George Floyd, a ‘black man’ was killed by a ‘white police officer’ as if this was relevant…there was no evidence that race played any factor in the events…and nothing at the trial suggested Floyd died due to his colour….but the BBC keeps on spreading that dangerous message.

    The last two days we’ve had a black BBC journalist wheeled in to tell us how he had to broach the subject of how his black children will have to live in a nasty and racist Britain. His wife also got in on the act telling us how after Floyd died her son asked her why they killed him…she paused and with trembling voice said that she then realised she had to tell her son about his skin colour. So presumably he’d managed to get through life so far without any evil white person oppressing him…but mum and dad were going to make sure he knew he was a victim anyway….and that he was ‘Black’.

    So this is what we have…a black BBC journalist given a platform to spread race hate and misinformation…Floyd was not ‘killed’ because he was black…he was though a violent thug and criminal who abused women and took powerful drugs….and who died from heart failure not suffocation.

    The BBC ensuring race relations in this country, and the US, will never be peaceful and harmonious.

    Most dangerous organisation in Britain.

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    • vlad says:

      Conclusion: cops tend to be trigger-happy with everyone.
      At least partly because they never know who might have a gun, so they’re on edge.

      “306 law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in 2020.”
      “56,034 assaults against law enforcement officers in 2019, resulting in 17,188 injuries.”

      I’d be nervous too.

      (Whether it’s healthy to have such large numbers of guns in circulation is a separate discussion.)

      https://nleomf.org/facts-figures/law-enforcement-facts

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  38. vlad says:

    All day the BBC headline has been: “Sasha Johnson: Black Lives Matter activist shot by group of men”.

    Now, call me pedantic, but I can’t help feeling there’s an important adjective missing there. A very important adjective given the circumstances.

    (And which, under different circumstances, would have been blazoned across the page.)

       33 likes

    • vonrecht says:

      vlad – that important missing adjective tells us WHY NO lesson has been learnt by the BBC from Bashirgate: in the service of propaganda as per usual, DECEIT will continue to be employed liberally…
      It’s the Bashir way, it seems, now part of the BBC DNA? Deceit is instinctive and comes natural…
      PS I should have thought forging bank accounts, for whatever purpose (especially leading someone to self-destruct), is a clear CRIMINAL offence?

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    • G.W.F. says:

      I can’t help thinking about the parenting issue here. Mum at a party at 3am.
      Hope the children were safe at home, probably watching a DVD of the film Zulu with dad.

         16 likes

  39. taffman says:

    “PM’s burka comments gave impression of insensitivity – report”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57239483
    Hasn’t this offensive and suppressive garment been banned in most of Europe?

       24 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      taffman

      This is an example of the ascending elite pushing it. Backed by the media they can exercise control over the Prime Minister and his gutless party.

      And this is why, despite having no fondness for the Chinese authorities, I fully understand why they are stamping on the Yooghars. Because within a generation the Chinese would be subjected to allah akibar.

         10 likes

  40. taffman says:

    “The prime minister ordered a report in 2019 into how the party handles discrimination allegations.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57239483

    More importantly, isn’t it time the prime minister ordered a report into the mass and industrial rape and grooming that has been inflicted upon the children of Great Britain in the last thirty years ?

       21 likes

  41. Foscari says:

    What springs to mind Vlad is ” All animals are equal but some
    are more equal than others”. Or put another way
    BLM unless its Black on Black when it comes to mattering.

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  42. MarkyMark says:

    Dear Marianna Spring (BBC wages paid under threat of prosecution),

    As I’ve had to look at your BBC news and use other sources to determine that your news is not news but selective editorial opinion I’d like to request that I have a refund for the last 4 years plus get the BBC free from now on.

    Please let me know how I can go about this as I am willing to create a full list of articles that I’ve had to investigate plus time taken for me to check your fact checker whilst realising that the BBC intentionally removes news rather than incorrectly report on it, uses images to sway opinion or misleads with the main titles hoping no one reads the full article.

    ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’

    CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

    CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

    CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

    CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

    CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

    CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

    CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

    CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

    CAS-6005141-S1V9D1: Not seen a report on the UK Governments Covid19 

    Let me know how to go about resolving the issue of paying for something that wastes my time as I have to check each story rather than rely on its accuracy.

    Cheers,
    MH
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

       18 likes

  43. taffman says:

    “BBC to publish report on Bashir rehiring next week”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57238874

    The people of this nation need and deserve a full Judicial Inquiry not a report by the perpetrators.

    What is more, the Queen and the people of Great Britain deserve a strong leader.
    IMHO, Tory voters have been betrayed.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Savile’s Radio 1 producer Ted Beston acted as a “provider” of young women for Savile at least once, and “must have realised” some of the girls were under-age – although he denies this – and should have reported it”

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35657868

         10 likes

  44. tomo says:

    On Monday afternoon a vigil was held in Ruskin Park, close to King’s College Hospital, where Ms Johnson is being treated.

    During the event well-wishers played African drums and prayed for the 27-year-old to pull through.

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  45. MarkyMark says:

    Both men used their fame and positions of celebrity to engage in “monstrous behaviour”

    The culture of the BBC enabled Savile and Hall’s offending to go undetected for decades

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35657868

       7 likes

  46. MarkyMark says:

    Some members of BBC staff were aware of Savile’s inappropriate sexual conduct
    Those who were aware of specific complaints about Savile should have reported them to line managers. .None did so. None did so.None did so.None did so.None did so.None did so.None did so.None did so.None did so.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35657868

       8 likes

  47. MarkyMark says:

    There is no evidence the BBC as a corporate body was aware of Savile’s conduct

    Those who were aware of specific complaints about Savile should have reported them to line managers. None did so

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35657868

       9 likes

  48. MarkyMark says:

    The BBC seemed more concerned about its reputation than the need to protect young girls

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35657868

       8 likes

  49. MarkyMark says:

    BBC will change …

    “Many BBC staff working with Hall were aware he was engaging in sexual conduct on the premises. However, they were not aware this involved under-age girls”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35657868

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