371 Responses to Weekend Thread 23 October 2021

  1. StewGreen says:

    Guardianland tweeters
    “Oh look at Worldometer the UK i doing baddy in Covid cases
    It’s second to the US day after day”

    Em go to the Weekly trends page
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/weekly-trends/
    Sure the UK has an increase, but it’s only 60th in rate of increase
    Germany has a 26% weekly increase

    Then Belgium and the East European countries are piling up 68%-88% increases

    Sweden is not terrible …about 7 deaths per day (proportionate to Germany)
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

    UK was 49th in terms of deaths/million population last week.

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  2. G says:

    The, “Fact Checkers” having a go at Farage. I received this email:

    “On the show, Mr Farage (GB News) said: “On a good day wind energy can bring us 24%, 25% of our electricity needs”.

    Last year wind produced 24% of electricity across the whole of the United Kingdom. So wind producing this much electricity isn’t a “good day” – it’s a regular day.

    He then said: “But on a bad day, back in September there was a three week period when renewables produced between 2% and 3%.”

    This isn’t true. The first three weeks of September did see relatively low levels of renewable electricity production, but far above the levels Mr Farage claimed.

    In that three week period, solar, wind and hydro energy accounted for 10%-19% of Great Britain’s electricity, before production rose substantially – up to 44% by the end of the month.”

    ‘Wind’ is ‘wind’ surely? See how the ‘Professional’ so-called ‘Fact Checkers’ broaden out the subject to falsely convey that Farage, in referring to, ‘Wind Energy’ was really referring to “…..solar, wind and hydro energy….’.

    “Jessica at Full Fact” – utterly dishonest.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @G Yep moving the goal posts from “wind”
      …to all renewables

      he was talking about ‘wind’ in isolation but uses the word ‘renewables’ in his last comment.
      He was out only by a few % points

      .. Farage seems to talk about NEEDS (ie. what we consume) whereas FF seems to discuss the PRODUCTION.

      Of course when wind was low Drax threw all the AMERICAN TREES it could into its boilers
      same with the straw burn plants.
      That would push up renewables a bit

      The first thing out of the fact checker’s mouth was to compare a daily figure with an average over a year.

      She is assuming that cos the average for the YEAR is 24% that most days produce that
      It is possible you get some days at 40%
      so that actually a typical day produces 20%

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    • StewGreen says:

      FFS look at the “hit piece” photo FullFact use
      The replies and retweets are dominated by HATE towards Farage.

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      • Philip_2 says:

        Twitter activists again. Reliable rent a mob of which some were found to be ex BBC part time political staff employed part time by the BBC as journalists. The BBc even managed to fund and pay for the iPhones they now use, and the BBC encourages staff use of Twitter accounts (not directly connected to the BBC).

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      • tomo says:

        FullFact is a farce

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      • Banania says:

        That bloke should either shave or grow a beard.

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    • maxincony says:

      G,

      …utterly dishonest.

      Yeah, imagine fact checking what he actually said. What a low down and dirty trick!

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Viewing stats
    normally BBC regional news at 6.30pm is the most watched programme of the day with 4.4million viewers

    The exception is some big shows eg Strictly got 8.7m (a 51% audience share at the time)
    and one day Corrie got a bit more that the news
    another day Bake off just did

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    • Scroblene says:

      I don’t believe a word of it, Stew.

      If they had to work for a living and their shareholders, they’d need a damn sight more evidence for their advertising prowess than a few numbers chucked in by their own ‘researchers’.

      Do they really believe that pensioners feel good about their silly rubbish?

      I certainly don’t!

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    • tomo says:

      The TV stats have always given me the impression that they’re marking their own homework.

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  4. TrickCyclist says:

    Channel 5 just started showing Pearl Harbor. Alec Baldwin plays Jimmy Doolittle. Don’t they usually take these films off the schedules at such times?

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  5. Philip_2 says:

    You make a good point Stew in how the BBC make up its viewing and listening figures is dubious. It counts anyone logging in from Chile or Botswana as listening of or viewing figures. And add in mobile phones, BBC iPlayer, echo’s from its many other channels fulfilling its mission and even its own tummy button to fluff up the numbers. But its in long term decline, and that’s the problem the BBC has no answer but more of the same, cross dressed for a younger and more ‘diverse’ audience that don’t have to pay for it.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The point is in a country with 64 million people they say their normal top show gets 4.4m and certain exceptions 8.5
      that still means only 14% are watching and 86% not.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Phillip
      Good point
      If anyone has the guide as to how the numbers are counted – on radio and TV that would be useful

      For instance – i understood that if you listen to ‘ today ‘ for 5 minutes that counts as one ‘listen ‘

      I dont know where i got that from or , indeed , whether it is true .

      Likewise the added numbers of online listening might make view figures bigger than they really are.

      Overseas viewing numbers should not be included because of the absence of a TV licence …

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      • StewGreen says:

        Yes sometimes they use a metric “weekly reach”
        which seems to count every single person who listened for just 5 mins within a week.
        Whereas in your mind you have an impression a listener is someone who listens for 30mins 4 days out of 5.

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  6. vlad says:

    Yesterday much of the press revealed further information on the muslim ‘suspect’ who murdered MP David Amess.

    Among other things, we learnt that he had targeted and spied on 2 other MPs (even going to their homes to reconnoiter) and considered attacking Parliament (before deciding the security there was too tight), and that he had links to Islamic State.

    All of which would be of great public interest, one might have thought. Yet none of that was mentioned on the Al Beeb bulletins that I saw.

    Almost as if the BBC were hoping the story would just go away.

    Compare that to their obsessive reporting of the Jo Cox murder.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10103053/Suspect-Ali-Harbi-Ali-25-charged-murdering-Sir-David-Amess.html

    2Q==

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    • tomo says:

      Plod PR drawing conclusions about the motivation of this fella, and clearly nothing volunteered by the man himself.

      There are hints that the killer is quite composed – that composure would hint (imho) that he feels justified with the attack and is unlikely to just sit stoically through the entire process.

      He’s going to say something … as he can’t realistically expect to get much if any leniency via the pleadings of his barrister – in fact I wonder that a barrister has been appointed at the magistrate court level as clearly that’s a perfunctory step where he confirms his name, en route to The Old Bailey ….

      The prosecutor is named in much of the coverage – but not the defence barrister.

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    Judging C5 – they probably thinks it’s a musical .

    If a Democrat shoots someone a different set of rules apply meaning there is no court case

    And the killer can carry on with the campaign against the true president …

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  8. tomo says:

    FullFact is a farce

    It’s not just that they try defending the indefensible – they can’t even get the evidence straight or verifiable and just lob in their opinion…

    I wonder what the going day rate is ?

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  9. vlad says:

    Alec Baldwin viciously mocked Trump on a weekly basis on the Saturday Night Live tv show, including while Trump was in hospital with Covid.

    Oh, how the luvvies and lefties tittered and sniggered.

    Well, Alec you moron, at least Trump never killed anyone.

    2Q==

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Seems Black Grievance TV is having a day off
    ..but Sunday 10:45pm ITV Benjamin Zephaniah
    Football’s Windrush Story
    is on after the black gameshow

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  11. StewGreen says:

    🟢 Sunday 9pm Channel 4 Joe Lycett vs The Oil Giant
    One hour special against Shell
    Made in conjunction with XR
    but Ofcom think that is the right kind of bias
    https://www.twitter.com/XRLondon/status/1446398692127301657

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  12. tomo says:

    edit – this was a response to earlier BBC web login topic.

    The BBC web gets a paywall?

    I suppose they got an exception for iPlayer ….

    Given the last 2 days I see a noticeable increase in mask wearing solo car drivers and mask wearing sometime frantic seeming hand sanitisers in supermarkets – I’m guessing that they’ve wound the scare knob up in broadcast news…?

    If I read the entitlement of BBC folk anywhere near correctly – their goal is an internet levy and that flows nicely with pols looking to muzzle the Internet

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  13. tomo says:

    It rather looks like the container traffic in/out of the USA is about to *really* go pear-shaped…

    THREAD:

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  14. Philip_2 says:

    Channel 4 is often worse than the BBC for balanced editorial. I have no doubt that China has influenced much of this nonsense. An interesting free ebook launched today by GWPF clearly shows the structural errors being introduced (by force) to western democracy is an impossible dream.

    “The paper identifies six key fallacies that have led the energy policy debate astray:

    Fallacy One: There is a ‘green’ energy transition
    Fallacy Two: Energy is like other commodities
    Fallacy Three: Energy efficiency will bring nett reductions
    Fallacy Four: Renewables are cheaper than fossil fuels
    Fallacy Five: You can legislate around the laws of thermodynamics
    Fallacy Six: The UK has shown world-leading decarbonisation

    It goes on to look at the strategic importance of motive power and the futility of battery electric vehicles, the threat of Chinese dominance, and then spells out thermodynamically and economically competent alternative approaches to a future of clean and abundant energy for all.

    Click to access Prins-Net-Zero-National-Security.pdf

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    • popeye says:

      For God’s sake, none of us deny that the climate is changing. It always has! What we do deny is the extent as to what we contribute to that change and what we could possibly do to stop it. Stopping it is impossible. Of course, a single erupting volcano can’t be controlled either.

      We also don’t deny that resources are finite, that we certainly do need to clean up our act and that improvements could be made. We do deny that we, the UK, are solely responsible for showing the way by effectively vastly reducing our standard of living “to show moral authority and an example to the rest of the world”.

      The same people espoused that if the West had given up nuclear weapons in the ‘70s and ‘80s the USSR and other nuclear states would have done the same. No, we would be speaking Russian. I can prove that M.A.D. worked, can CND prove that their “solution” would have?

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  15. vlad says:

    I urge anyone less cowardly than the BBC to watch the heroic Douglas Murray talk to the heroic Alastair Stewart on the heroic GB News about the despicable murder of David Amess and the cowardly response to it.

    As Murray says, IT’S AN OBSCENITY!!!

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  16. Guest Who says:

    Plays his cards right, the same wedge as BS in a year…

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    • StewGreen says:

      25,000 followers
      1 Like
      I doubt that such BBC accounts are shadow banned by Twitter, like a lot of righty accounts are

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  17. Guest Who says:

    Trending with 40 engagements in seven hours is impressive.

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    • StewGreen says:

      12 retweets and 28 likes
      One of those 12 is a quote tweet which call them out

      Oh it’s their second attempt, their first tweet got 18 Likes
      and 2 replies against them.

      The annoying thing is that the changes to Twitter mean that beneath the tweet ai am forced towards a whole series of other tweets by mad alarmists like Katherine HayHoe

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    • Garry Lavin says:

      What’s next, gulags, medical units and lobotomies?!

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  18. BRISSLES says:

    Just went on to the Crafter’s site Etsy (I start my Xmas shopping early) to be faced with this…………..

    https://www.etsy.com/featured/blackownedshops-uk?campaign_label=new_at_etsy&utm_source=adhoc&utm_campaign=etsy_newatetsy_102321_BHM21_CelebrateBHM_uk&utm_medium=email&%243p=e_sg&_branch_match_id=740609615129571304

    Encouraging us to search out black owned businesses. I give up.

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    • StewGreen says:

      This is not a new thing, Etsy started that a while ago.
      On a similar topic one of the black TV voices has this thing about promoting black owned businesses
      ..I forget the name right now.

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    • StewGreen says:

      \\ Y’all don’t know about Miiriya???
      It’s like Amazon/Etsy but for Black owned businesses, it has nothing but Black businesses on it, download it it’s so convenient!! //

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    • harry142857 says:

      Crumbly Cornish Clotted Cream Fudge. Only £5.25 per 100g.

      Thats ‘only’ £23.84 for a pound.

      You can get 500g (1.105 pounds) in the pound shop.

      Same ingredients, different wokeness.

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      • StewGreen says:

        A lot of the time it’s the same product
        Chancers were buying £10 factory made stuff from B & M and selling it on Etsy as HAND MADE
        for £50

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  19. tomo says:

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    • Northern Voter says:

      What goes “clippity clop, clippity clop, bang bang? Clippity clop, clippity clop

      An Amish drive by shooting!

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  20. StewGreen says:

    Yet again today the Times book review lays into a book
    children’s book The Lion Above The Door
    “fun but flawed” and says it won the Blue Peter Prize cos it is about refugees and immigration and is by a Muslim author.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Ah Maxi corrects me
      Although the review starts off with the subheading “fun but flawed”
      and then goes on about a book about refugees by a Muslim author that won the Blue Peter Prize
      That wasn’t the book he is calling flawed
      He’d jumped in by first talking about her first book
      which I see he said deserved to win the prize.
      Then he goes on to why he thinks the new book is flawed.
      I’d assumed he was saying this new book was the one that won the prize

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      • maxincony says:

        StewGreen,

        …and then goes on about a book about refugees by a Muslim author…

        Oh wow, this is truly pathetic.

        [the Times book review] says it won the Blue Peter Prize cos it is about refugees and immigration and is by a Muslim author.

        The review says nothing of the sort about her current book, or her first book. You lied. Just admit it and move on.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Maxi, my first reply to when you brought it up fessed up I had misinterpreted it
          I wrote “Yes you are right,
          … my error in reading.”

          We all misinterpret something complicated sometime or other
          I don’t mind someone saying “Hey I think you have misinterpreted it”
          If they start shouting “you lied” that is misrepresentation
          saying I believed one thing and wrote another

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  21. Edited Highlights says:

    A little more than a week since the shocking murder of an MP and the BBC has airbrushed any mention from their UK ‘news’ website.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk

    Plenty of room though for these massive ‘news’ stories tonight in the UK.

    Road sign bungle sees Yorkshire sign erected in Lincolnshire.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-59009661

    Newport’s ‘road to nowhere’ fly-tipping blackspot near M4 cleared

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59023721

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  22. harry142857 says:

    Arsenal are said to be in talks with Alec Baldwin as they need someone who can actually shoot on target

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  23. taffman says:

    “Migrant crossings: More than 800 migrants cross Channel in three days”
    “Dan O’Mahoney, Clandestine Channel Threat Commander, said:  ”The government is determined to tackle the unacceptable rise in dangerous Channel crossings using every tool at our disposal, at every stage in the journey.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-58965905

    Evidently, the ‘Clandestine’ Channel Threat Commander, Dan O’Mahoney,is more concerned about the criminals lives than they the invaders are.
    Border Farce is a mere pantomime and farce. We voted for Brexit to end this absurd situation. Its time the British Government got tough and sent them all back . The Home Secretary’s job is to take care of our lives not of the invaders .
    This government has to go before there is a major terrorist disaster!

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    • Sluff says:

      Good post Taffman.
      Except for the last sentence.
      Which is….errrr…….a bit late.
      As residents of Leigh on Sea might mention.
      To name but the latest example of many.

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      • taffman says:

        Sluff
        And I fear more disasters to come.
        If only the Home Office would publish the number of illegal landings on our shores with the same alacrity as the “reported Covid-19 cases” .
        Its all in the interest of ‘community cohesion’ but not our cohesion.
        Tory MPs must know by now, that their number is up.

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        • taffman says:

          maxincony, the maxi troll !
          Where are you on this interview ?………………………

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  24. Guest Who says:

    So inspiring.

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  25. Sluff says:

    Our socialist government today announced public expenditure of £7 bn on yet more collectivised public transport, mainly to be spent (i.e wasted) in socialist city hubs like Manchester, Liverpool, Sheffield, and Birmingham.

    Did you know that petrol duty raises £28 bn a year under normal non-covid times but we spend only £12 bn a year on roads?

    But whereas 85% of journeys are by car, only 13% are by bus and train combined?

    So what we have here is redistribution of wealth on a gargantuan scale. And almost no-one notices or comments. And the investigative journalists at the BBC are too busy w*** ing themselves silly every time St Greta opens her mouth to ask any questions.

    A true scandal of our age.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – i think you should spare a thought for comrade corbyn who collectivist agenda is daily being stolen by the red nut nut tories …

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  26. Thoughtful says:

    Just when you thought the cowardly useless incompetent Tories couldn’t get lower than a snakes belly they allow the suspected murderer of PC Yvonne Fletcher to settle in Britain.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10123147/Prime-suspect-murder-WPC-Yvonne-Fletcher-allowed-settle-UK-British-spy.html

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  27. StewGreen says:

    BBC 4 Trailers
    Announcer plugged “On Iplayer watch the Earthshot Prize
    …. and Radio4’s 39 Ways to Save The Planet”

    Then a full trailer
    “Coca Cola’s eco problem BBC1 7:30pm Monday”

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  28. Northern Voter says:

    Is it true you can only be a British Gas fitter if you are of a dusky hue?

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  29. Guest Who says:

    A chunk.

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    • JimS says:

      I’ll look after my yoghurt pots if governments will just keep Africans in Africa and Asians in Asia.

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  30. Sluff says:

    A thought on comments further up the trail about viewing figures.

    Being a rugby fan, I was searching for the Premiership highlights on channel 5, as per last year.

    Except that….they are no longer on channel 5. Nor in fact on any tv channel. The premiership are putting the highlights straight onto youtube. Available free-to-air, so to speak.

    With that kind of option, having something like the BBC, with its vanishing viewing figures, is revealed as the outdated anachronism it is.

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  31. Nibor says:

    I predict a race that only one contender will win . Because only one contender will take part .
    It will be called at the COP26 binge in a fortnight . Actually its already been called . Boris has said the UK will be the leader in combating global warming . We`ll be the leader alright because no one else will take part in it . The up front stake of taking part in it is twenty times more than the prize money . Not only that the stake money is disbursed to those that dont even attend the race event .
    Of course Boris is like every other half wit in the civil service and foreign office who think all foreigners admire them and want to emulate them . And no amount of time and experience will ever persuade them otherwise .
    Madness .

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  32. JohnC says:

    BBC headline:
    ‘Tories are friends so don’t need masks ‘ – Rees Mogg

    Blatant attempt to ridicule Mogg and the Tories. Including quotes from Labour, the Liberal Democrats and the SNP.

    As usual they completely mis-represent the reality. It’s a completely staged publicity event by Labour who don’t wear masks either. Except when the cameras are on.

    This is what we are meant to believe the Labour half of the house looks like:

    _121166100_labourmasksukparliament.jpg
    Clearly completely staged for the cameras.

    This is what they looked like at their conference:

    ?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww4.pictures.zimbio.com%2Fgi%2FEd%2BMiliband%2BLabour%2BConference%2BFocuses%2BLeader%2Bsn4nU_S9DU4l.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

    Blatant double-standard hypocrisy by Labour with the BBC fully complicit.

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  33. Zephir says:

    Sigh…..

    “‘I am a black woman in a white court’: Former Labour MP reportedly fears being discriminated against as she faces jail for threatening to throw acid over a suspected love rival

    Leicester East MP Claudia Webbe threatened to throw acid over another woman
    She was convicted of harassment against suspected love rival Michelle Merritt
    The former Labour MP plans to appeal and will be sentenced on November 4
    Ms Webbe, 56, said that she is a black woman facing a white court and system”

    best comment so far:

    You’re once, twice, three times a female Labour MP…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10124065/Former-Labour-MP-reportedly-fears-discriminated-against-faces-jail.html#comments

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ah Claudia – in a bunker made of her own race hate . She’d feel more comfortable in a coloured African country – go try the yeman criminal justice system darling …. Incredible to think chippy is also still an MP…law maker

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    • JimS says:

      Maybe offer her a ‘necklace’ or a bit of ‘honour’ stabbing by her victim’s relatives?

      Time our justice system had a bit of ‘enrichment’?

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  34. Zephir says:

    Why has David Beckham turned a blind eye to racism, misogyny and homophobia in Qatar – could it be his secret £10m deal to plug its World Cup?

    David Beckham was seen working on a promotional film for the Qatar World Cup
    The rich Middle Eastern nation has a record of appalling human rights abuses
    Beckham didn’t comment on Qatar’s unjust treatment of gay men and women
    It is thought Beckham is being paid in excess of £10 million to create the promo

    Meanwhile in the UK:

    Met Police making enquiries over any racism allegations after Crystal Palace fan group SLAM Newcastle’s Saudi-led owners with banner during Premier League draw… as Holmesdale Fanatics condemn Premier League for ‘choosing money over morals’

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    • Zephir says:

      As the purchase from Mike Ashley cost £305m, 10 per cent of that fund has come from RB Sports and another 10 per cent from PCP Capital Partners. The other 80 per cent has been raised by the PIF, Saudi Arabia’s “sovereign wealth fund”.

      That is where the lines with the state appear to have become blurred. Bin Salman is the current ruler of the Gulf state and he is also chairman of the PIF.

      When the issue of Saudi Arabia’s human rights record was raised, Staveley added: “I’m obviously aware of those comments that have been made and that’s something we take very seriously and keenly. Our partner is not the Saudi state, our partner is PIF.

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  35. Guest Who says:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/10/23/the-lancet-makes-false-climate-change-death-claims-media-swallows-them/

    US media credulity with matters ‘reported’ in other countries is the stuff of legend.

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  36. AsISeeIt says:

    The BBC picks up a copy of the Sunday People to head its online press line-up this morning – that paper perhaps best exemplifying our national non sequitur debate over the apparent islamist terrorist murder of an MP: ‘51 MPs call in cops over threats‘ – that’ll be overwhelmingly over the internet.

    Is there any evidence our young friend charged with the murder sent Twitter threats or anything of the like? – One doubts it.

    But all this fuss over hatey digital communication serves as a handy smokescreen obsuring the really difficult question MPs don’t want to face of who on earth have we invited over here and how come they hate us so much? And given they hate us so much – how come we keep inviting them over?

    Right on cue the Observer gives frontpage photo pride of place to: ‘Little Amal, an 11-foot tall puppet, visits St Paul’s Cathedral yesterday as she nears the end of The Walk, a five-month journey from Turkey to the UK to raise awareness of the world’s refugee crisis‘ – well, it wouldn’t be the first time a hulking great over-sized speciment of a migrant pretented to be a child refugee. Frankly, to my eye, the thing resembles a Doctor Who monster, designed to scare the kiddies.

    So many questions. Starting from Turkey and crossing the entire European continent… like some reverse Orient Express… why end up in Britain? Why finish with a photo op in a Christian cathedral? Why not at some radical left-wing London gay, lesbian and trans bookshop, for instance?

    The implication is obviously that Amal is muslim but is this cathedral aspect supposed to hark back and tap into our former Christian heritage? That would have made sense when Christ cared for unbelievers and they subsequently chose to follow him. Is there any evidence whatsoever that muslim asylum seekers subsequently join the Christian church, having been kindly given their UK passports? Has a swelling of our muslim population seen any deepening and strenghtening of our Judeo-Christian heritage and culture – quite the opposite is true.

    Christian clergy and believers indulging in encouraging muslim migration are the turkeys here – voting for no future Christmases.

    And at the very same time that the Observer wants us to open wide our borders so as to embrace all and sundry they also want us to Lockdown internally and avoid our neighbours for dire fear of the lurgy: ‘Observer comment: No more delay. Johnson is ignoring the warning signs, Now is the time to impliment the Covid winter plan

    Our subjugation to the caliphate progresses apace: ‘Police investigate Crystal Palace fans’ banner criticising Saudi Arabian deal‘ (BBC) – meanwhile police presumably also investigate historic claims of canibalism in light of the emergence of photographic evidence of Leeds United football fans half-a-century ago brandishing banners claiming: “Norman Hunter bites yer legs

    …criticising Saudi Arabian deal…‘ – eh? Can they do you for that? The Financial Times better tread warily when next they review some business takeover involving middle eastern finance.

    The banner had a checklist with alleged offences by the Saudi Arabia regime‘ – watch out Amnesty International… the Sharia compliant rozzers will be raiding your offices next…

    Amnesty International on Saudi: ‘Virtually all known Saudi Arabian human rights defenders inside the country were detained or imprisoned at the end of the year… Repression of the rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly intensified. Among those harassed, arbitrarily detained, prosecuted and/or jailed were government critics, women’s rights activists, human rights defenders, relatives of activists, journalists, members of the Shi’a minority and online critics of government responses to the COVID-19 pandemic.’

    No wonder muslim refugees choose not to go to live in the land of Mecca. What a topsy turvy world we do live in.

    And what a mess our football authorities have gotten themselves into when they happily invited identity politics into the game.

    As if footie wasn’t tribal enough as it is. Now there’s no resolving these two sides: “Officers are assessing the information and carrying out enquiries. Any allegations of racist abuse will be taken very seriously.” (BBC) – gosh we’ve got RACE… in the red corner, versus…

    Proud and Palace, the club’s official lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender supporters group, also protested on Saturday, posting a video on their Twitter account.‘ (BBC) – wow, LGBTQetc.. in the rainbow coloured corner.

    One wonders what banner Proud and Palace might bring along to a match to intimidate rival teams: “Christian Benteke kisses yer lips“? All the modern players do that anyway.

    No wonder there’s no coppers to be seen on the beat these days – it’s going to take hundreds of graduate level police brainhours to unravel this kerfuffle.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      AsIseeit
      Regarding Little Amal.
      Does anybody think “Green light. Red light” when they see it.

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  37. theisland says:

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  38. Guest Who says:

    The Artful Rog is now going full Vile on flounce fact checking…

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    • Old Goat says:

      NOTHING will halt climate change, other than an absence of the climate. WE all know that, so should he.

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  39. JohnC says:

    Just mulling over Baldwin and Karma while I was cutting the grass and realised the thing which has been niggling me is WTF was a 24 year old girl doing as chief armourer ?. Weapons are not things you can teach and pass a test, they required experience and common sense.

    I wonder if she was given the job because of sexist quotas and wokeism instead of the job going to the older white guy who was far more qualified through experience. If she was, it is indeed Karma in action.

    One thing for sure though : none of our media will go down that route. The Left don’t care if people die : the agenda is more important.

    The next lesson from the same hymn sheet will be learned when Harris takes over from Biden.

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      And don’t point real guns at people – even when they’re not loaded?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      What does any of this matter? Her father was a legendary sharpshooter who she could call on, and we risk the vicious circle of the ‘experience’ stupidity destroying much of our country.

      Currently companies won’t take on HGV drivers or haven’t been doing without experience, they can’t get the experience because no one will employ them ! then these companies go crying to the government that they can’t find anyone with experience and they need to seek foreign workers who have the experience they denied to British workers.

      You have to start somewhere and someone has to give you that break to gain the experience otherwise no one gets any experience as only the elderly can be employed.

      In addition she might not even have been on set that day as the set was plagued with strikes, and we know from the 911 call that it was the assistant director who handed Bladwin the gun and declared it to be a “cold gun”.

      Question is though, was it a live round in the chamber, and how did it get there if it was? A single live round in a chamber and all the rest blanks?

      But the bigger question is why did Baldwin fire directly to camera ignoring all the safety checks put in place after the death of Brandon Lee, and even a blank can kill someone.

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      • tomo says:

        An acquaintance of mine who lives in just outside Johannesburg South Africa goes the other way – 3 blanks and the other 9 real.

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        • JohnC says:

          My friend who went to SA on business didn’t get a gun. Instead he got a training course on how to be car-jacked without getting shot.

          Apparently the only reason they don’t want to shoot you is because of the mess it makes in the car.

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        • TrickCyclist says:

          tomo,
          It sounds to me like your friend in SA is having you on.
          Twelve rounds in the gun, so presumably a semi-automatic? AFAIK, you can’t mix blanks and live rounds in those – the blanks won’t cycle the mechanism. When real automatic weapons are used with blanks in movies, they have a bore restrictor in the barrel to increase the back pressure.
          Not a gun owner myself but I have friends and family in the US who are.

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          • tomo says:

            Indeed…. Working the slide three times with the chance the blank gets stuck – no thanks.

            Asking for more trouble really.

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      • JohnC says:

        What an extraordinary comment.

        I wonder what line of work you are in such that you think being in charge of something is the best way to learn ?. In my experience, it is a very, very expensive way to get it. If not a disastrous one.

        Apparently she WAS on the list of people scheduled to be on set that day. And even if she wasn’t, if she was worth her salt, she would have someone she could trust to cover for her.

        I agree that ultimately it is Baldwin’s fault and he definitely should be facing charges of negligent manslaughter. But her job was to make sure he was never put in that position.

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        • Thoughtful says:

          If you aren’t ever allowed to gain the experience then you can you ever get it?
          This is the vicious circle I talked about, everyone has to start somewhere, and no it is absolutely not her responsibility to get someone to cover for her if she goes on strike !

          What I find extraordinary is the number of people prepared to cast blame without a shred of evidence based purely on her age and apparant lack of experience.

          It is possible for someone to be killed or injured with a blank cartridge and we don’t know as yet if that is what happened. She might have done nothing wrong at all, or the gun might have been tampered with between her and Baldwin we do not know and that it why it is grossly unfair to cast blame.

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          • JohnC says:

            The bit you are missing is that she was in charge. People gain experience by those in charge teaching them what to do. Nobody in their right mind puts someone with no experience in charge.

            If someone tampered with it between her and Baldwin, it is her fault. She should make sure that was not possible. We are talking about guns here.

            It is possible to be killed by a blank cartridge, but only at very close range. It’s a pure pressure wave : no projectile.

            Bottom line is that Baldwin had a loaded gun and didn’t know it. Whatever else happened, that’s her fault. The fact he didn’t check it and pulled the trigger while pointing it at someone is his fault.

            My question here is about whether she got the job because of her sex when other people much more experienced didn’t because they were male. I don’t know if that’s the case or not : my point is that nobody will ask the question (at least in public).

            Don’t you think it’s a hell of a coincidence that this happened when this 24 year old woman was in charge ?.

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    • Banania says:

      Why would there have been any live ammo anywhere near?

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  40. JohnC says:

    And, of course, it has nothing whatsoever to do with race. It’s about Islam.

    No doubt they would switch it to ‘Islamophobia’ which is yet another lie. It’s ‘Anti-Islam predjudice’. But the Left can’t sneer while they say that.

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    • Banania says:

      Not even anti-islam prejudice, but entirely rational fear and dislike of islam, founded on evidence.

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  41. Thoughtful says:

    And at the same time they run pieces about what a wonderful honest example of a politician Sir David Amess was whilst completely overlooking his links to Qatar and his promotion of the regime.

    But you have missed the bigger question here which is why the Gestapo are investigating a protest which is about human rights and has nothing to do with race. You correctly point out the Saudi billions being given to Mosques and universities but neglect to point out the millions being given or promised to the UKs poverty paid politicians who are forced to look to these sources in order to make up their incomes.

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    • Nibor says:

      Thoughtful ,

      First you have to tell us which politicians get paid . Is it only those in power , or any self declared politician ?

      Second you have to tell us how much they should be paid

      Third : how will the well remunerated politicians not swamp out the newer politicians ?

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  42. vlad says:

    Rumours that Andrew Neil might return to the BBC.

    Well, you can’t keep a hippo from a nice warm swamp, all that lovely mud and filth.

    The old codger couldn’t take the cut and thrust of buccaneering GB News. And when it started going the way of that horrible Fox News, poor Andrew nearly had a heart attack. “I’m a much respected, quality journalist”, he squealed, “not a vulgar populist”. “I’ve won awards”, he spluttered. “Now I’m surrounded by right-wing riff-raff, who can’t even do their jobs properly. I’m off to the South of France”.
    Aw diddums.

    Enjoy the slime Andrew, and the big fat salary.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I think the BBC might feed his ego more than others . although I thought he’d take the dodgy sky money – at least he knows ‘big’ politicians will avoid him –
      Andrew – stay retired in France and snipe from the sidelines ..

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    • tomo says:

      Some might say AF Neil can dish it out well enough – but he doesn’t care for any well founded challenges …?

      One has to wonder which particular issue got the lower lip working overtime?

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    • Banania says:

      It now seems to be better than Fox News. Whoever could have predicted this?

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  43. Guest Who says:

    Nish has a relative who is funny.

    Love the bag, Jez.

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  44. Zephir says:

    I understand Newcastle are also called “The Magpies” but
    I would just like to know what penguins have to say about that banner

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  45. Guest Who says:

    Bless.

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  46. jazznick1 says:

    Following a legal battle the CCC has been forced to release it’s data (sound familiar ?) relating to the assumptions made about wind-power capabilities in the UK.
    It formed the basis for the government’s Net Zero (dash for poverty) decisions.

    Seems it’s all bollox.

    What else have they lied about ?

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/10/24/cccs-net-zero-plans-rely-on-dramatic-rise-in-windy-days/

    Full story in the Telegraph with big thanks to GWPF/Net Zero Watch.

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    • tomo says:

      What else have they lied about ?

      be morelike

      “What haven’t they lied about?”

      there, fixed it for you 🙂

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    • Thoughtful says:

      They haven’t ‘lied’ as such, the just told the politicians what the politicians paid them to tell them – what they wanted to hear.

      As we all know these are not scientists, they are prognosticators and with a record that punxatawny Phil would be ashamed of.

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      • jazznick1 says:

        Yes, all the while the Climate Change Act 2008 exists politicians of all parties will need to have secretive ‘bodies’ to feed them with justifications for decisions they need to make in order to comply with it’s legally binding provisions.

        The IPCC’s massive reports are pretty level headed until the shorter politically ‘sexed up’ version is written that most people hear about in the media over and over again.

        There is no way out of this downward spiral unless the politics change and the whole act is repealed or watered down.

        This may come about due to public protest/riot or even by these same politicians ‘smelling the coffee’ and undermining the CCC’s dark inner workings.

        I see Allister Heath in the Telegraph is calling for a referendum on the Net Zero issue.

        This may be a way out for a future PM to throw the Jolly Green Giant and his wife under his own bus.

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  47. Docmarooned says:

    Interesting one from Neil Oliver on GB news. Seems none of the attendees for the upcoming farce that is COP26 do NOT need to confirm they have had the Covid vaccination whereas lesser mortals attending other large scale events do. Double standards as usual. Any comments from the bBBC?

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  48. BigBrotherCorporation says:

    A-level textbook withdrawn over ‘shocking’ Native American question
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-59024961

    The ‘shocking’ question asked of A Level History students:
    “To what extent do you believe the treatment of Native Americans has been exaggerated?”

    1. Are we teaching kids to reason and think for themselves?

    2. Who honestly believes, any student daft enough to answer that, in this day and age, with “I think the ill treatment of Native Americans is vastly over exaggerated” would get a good grade?

    In 30/40 years time there won’t be any innovative, ‘rebel’ thinkers in any position of authority, just compliant clones, and that’s not a good thing.

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    • popeye says:

      “In 30/40 years time there won’t be any innovative, ‘rebel’ thinkers in any position of authority, just compliant clones, and that’s not a good thing”.

      But it is the intended thing!

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  49. StewGreen says:

    You can either live in the real world
    or you can live in a PR BS world.

    The Iceland boss has taken his fathers supermarket chain and runs it as a Green campaign
    9:15am he was on R4 “blah, blah plastic ..blah blah” etc
    Then he says “You know turkey sales are up 400%”
    .. The thing is that is a non-story : it’s the old principle of 4 times nothing is nothing

    In December when you are selling 1000 turkey’s/day and increase to 5,000 is something
    but in October when you are selling 2 per day and increase to 10 is still pretty small fry.

    The BBC guy was swept along
    But to be fair for once he was trying to interject “we don’t want to cause panic buying”.

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    • Nibor says:

      Im not surprised turkey sales are up . I bet theyve gone up 4000% since Bernard Mathews started to sell them cheaply and make them an all season meal instead of just for Christmas Day .
      Plus we`re told to eat less red meat .

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  50. tomo says:

    SAGE?

    At the outset (Feb 2020) I went looking at SAGE and was, to say the least really irked that it’d been stuffed with tossers from PHE.

    – and we’ve been stuffed as a consequence.

    SAGE need sending to the taxidermists in an Admiral Byng sort of a way.

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