Start the Week 21 February 2022

The newspaper version of the BBC The Guardian – has published ‘100 cultural figures on 100 years of the BBC ‘ . Many commenting earn their living from collecting licence tax fees . Clearly they live in an alternative world from real people suffering from constant BBC propaganda . We can expect more during this centenary year …

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Marky -with reference to the ‘100 cultural figures ‘ – I detected the very ‘group think ‘ which infests the who BBC – my favourite is that the BBC is hooked on something called ‘diversity ‘ when it has no diversity of thought or opinion as an organisation …

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      • MarkyMark says:

        From 2018 – BBC reply to my asking for them to investigate MP Expenses.

        I understand you feel you should not be obliged to pay the TV Licence, you feel some BBC staff are overpaid which you feel is a waste of the licence fee and you feel the BBC should do more to highlight expense claims by MPs.

        Naturally we regret when any member of our audience is unhappy with any aspect of what we do.

        Whilst we thank you for your views on the general premise of a compulsory TV Licence as a universal funding mechanism for the BBC’s UK public services, we must advise that any feedback in this area should be addressed to the Secretary of State for Culture Media & Sport as the UK Government controls this area of law.

        The TV Licence is not actually a BBC requirement but a UK Government requirement under the auspices of The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 (as amended) and the Communications Act 2003. The BBC, through TV Licensing, is obligated to administer the licensing process in terms of collections and so on.

        The Government’s legislation does not allow for non-payment or refunds/reductions of the TV Licence fee in light of unhappiness with BBC actions, output or spending decisions. If you feel it should, you should make your views known to the Government directly as this isn’t something within the BBC’s remit. We’d also explain that the Government sets the level of the annual TV Licence, not the BBC or TV Licensing.

        Any personal views relating to BBC output or spending do not negate the legal requirement for premises in the UK which operate television receiving equipment to hold a valid TV Licence at all times, and we must warn that failure to hold a TV Licence where one is legally required may lead to evasion enforcement action including letters and home visits, and potentially court action and fines.

        The BBC is required by its Royal Charter to disclose the pay of all individuals receiving over £150,000 from the licence fee in each financial year.

        The BBC operates in a highly competitive market alongside the likes of Sky, ITV, Netflix and Amazon. Despite this, it is widely acknowledged that the BBC pays less than its competitors and our Annual Report shows that the total amount spent on paying talent is down this year by 2.5%. The bill for those earning over £150,000 is down 10% year-on-year, and down by a quarter over the last five years. The amount we pay the very highest earners has dropped by 40% across the same period. The BBC has achieved these savings at a time when there has been significant cost inflation across the industry in areas like entertainment, drama and sport.

        While the BBC will never be able to compete with the budgets of some of our competitors, research shows that four out of five members of the public think the BBC should try to get the highest quality presenters, actors and reporters for its programmes and services – even if it means paying similar amounts as other broadcasters.

        On gender and diversity, the BBC is more diverse than it has ever been. We have set the most stretching targets in the industry for on-air diversity: by 2020 we want all our lead and presenting roles to be divided equally between men and women. Of those on the list we hired or promoted in the last three years, 60% are women and nearly a fifth come from a black, Asian or minority ethnic background. Across the BBC as a whole, our gender pay gap is 9.3% against a national average of over 18.1% – but we know there is more to do.

        In October 2017 the BBC published a number of documents, including an independent audit of BBC staff pay (overseen by Sir Patrick Elias (a former Court of Appeal judge) and conducted by consultancy firm PwC and legal firm Eversheds); its gender pay gap report; and a full management response to the outcome of both. In January 2018 the BBC published a report which covered correspondents, presenters and on-air editors in news and news-related areas. For this particular group of employees there is a 6.8% gender pay gap.

        Both audits concluded there is no evidence of systemic gender discrimination in the way the BBC pays its staff, but they do identify a number of issues in relation to pay which have resulted in anomalies that need addressing. The Director-General recently announced a five-point plan to help create a fairer and more equal BBC.

        Further details about the pay reviews can be found on the following links. We will not be providing a breakdown or more detailed information relating to individual stars’ contracts. However, we have said that in future we will do more to explain the pay of each presenter paid over £150,000, especially where they do more than one role.

        Review of Gender Pay and Equal Pay – October 2017

        Review of On-Air Pay – January 2018
        BBC Management Response to the Pay Reviews:

        The full BBC Annual Report is available to read at…

        insidethebbc

        We know that not everyone will agree with our choices on which stories to cover, or the order in which they appear. Our news editors make these complex decisions, based on the editorial merit of all the stories at hand. We accept that not everyone will agree with each decision – various factors are at play and there’s often debate in the newsroom too.

        We have offered coverage of MP’s expenses on our BBC News website

        link

        link

        Please be assured we have passed your concerns to the relevant staff via our audience feedback report.

        Thank you, once again, for contacting the BBC.

        Kind regards

        John Hamill

        BBC Complaints Team

        https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2018/04/20/weekend-open-thread-183/comment-page-4/#comment-912276

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    • StewGreen says:

      That Guardian list of 100 BBC icons from today, fails to list
      – Savile
      – Rolf
      – Jonathan King
      – Stuart Hall

      Monbiot has an opinion; wacky of course
      Yet 30 quote tweets praise it.
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  1. Thoughtful says:

    Here’s what’s going to happen with gas when and if Putin rolls his tanks into Ukraine.

    All of the possibilities don’t bear thinking about because the shortfall from Russia cannot be made good. The prospect of EU countries doing what they did in the Covid crisis over PPE will be repeated with gas as pipelines cross their countries with the first ones holding onto supplies for their own citizens. Germany will be the loser here.

    And what happens if Germany breaks the US sanctions and the US bans German products from import – the whole EU will then be affected, how will they handle this.

    What ever happens this is a mess raising enormous questions that the children of the left in the media don’t even appear able to contemplate let alone discuss. It might be that they are not wanting to panic the population, but they must know because it’s all over Reuters:

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/what-are-europes-options-case-russian-gas-disruption-2022-02-15/

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    • MarkyMark says:

      We can demand more wind to make up the short fall?
      Or make sure Solar Panels run at 100% during the night?
      Or we could Frack or use the surplus from USA?
      We could ask Saudi for more oil?

      We could demand Parliament is no longer heated?

      ….

      Can MPs claim for their energy bills? Taxpayers billed £30k in first five months of 2021
      ENERGY BILLS will soon grow by almost £700 a year for a typical household but are taxpayers also footing the costs for MPs?

      https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1562947/can-MPs-claim-energy-bills-price-cap-rise-evg

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      • Thoughtful says:

        On mmore serious note, you can make some small provision for just in case, should the lights go out or the gas is switched off.

        I think it’s highly likely Europe will demand equal shares and equal pain, especially Germany which has the most to lose.

        We now need to press silly liberal leftist politicians to move away from gas electricity generation and move back to coal oil and nuclear.

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        • MarkyMark says:

          We’ve gone from Save the NHS to full out warfare.
          Maybe the Politicians will seek from Greta on this one?

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Time to stock up on batteries ??

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        • NCBBC says:

          Coal has always been the most efficient way to produce electricity. Coal fired generating stations use low grade fuel, coal, to produce high quality energy in the form of electricity, that is stable in power, frequency and phase.

          In Britain we have the coal conveniently where the generating stations are. Its inexcusable that such a huge resource has been allowed to waste and degrade.

          Using gas or oil to produce electricity in a static plant, is wasteful of this prime energy source. It should be used in cars, trucks and trains. By the same token, using high grade energy like electricity to drive either cars, trucks or trains, is inefficient in their very use for that purpose. And worse running when applied for that purpose.

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          • NCBBC says:

            Contd: Electricity from wind and Solar requires high quality electricity to construct and maintain, while generating low quality electricity. That is, it is inefficient in its creation, is also erratic in regulation, frequency and phase. Thus tt is wasteful in time and good quality energy, producing electricity from sun or solar. And of no use where constancy and availability is required. One couldn’t think of a more useless waste of an engineer’s time and resource.

            Too, Coal has the advantage that it returns CO2 to the atmosphere which then increases plant growth. More Green, more food, Carbon dioxide capture by increased plant growth. More vegetables, more flowers, and meat too as a side product.

            And we can then start to educate a new generation of engineers. Without engineers, real ones, and a new industrial base, we are sunk.

            Nuclear power is too costly to produce, and requires very high quality engineering skills in all forms from Control systems to safety insurance. Too, high quality materials and very quality machining skills. Moreover, it takes a long time for it to come online.

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            • NCBBC says:

              Moreover, it takes a long time for it to come online, even if we had high quality engineers at all levels, and machinists. We don’t have either, specially machinists. They are dead and gone.

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    • NCBBC says:

      Much closer in the figurative sense is what is happening in The Socialist Peoples Republic of Canada

      If this was in Iran , Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, or N Korea, it would fit in the mind picture we have.

      But Canada? Peaceful persons peacefully surrendering for arrest, then beaten viciously by a team of surrounding cops. I mean really visciously beaten, as if they really hate the person lying prone, on a personal level.

      Citizens who complained by phone what they were seeing were told by the police chief, that they had technology to know who and where their phone was.

      There is something very wrong with Canadian society. They need Jordon Peterson. But would he be safe from the authorities,

      Canada is mud for at least a generation,

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  2. StewGreen says:

    The Times : “Swedish mafia” “Swedish crime gangs”
    … yet further down page calls the guy “duel Swedish -Tunisian citizen”
    … Such deceitful labels are anti-Swedish racism.

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  3. StewGreen says:

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Boris Johnson’s response … “Foreign Office employees invited to wear headscarves to work to mark World Hijab day”
      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/foreign-office-employees-invited-to-wear-headscarves-to-work-to-mark-world-hijab-day-a3761146.html

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      • AWOL says:

        Men wearing headscarves look VERY silly Mark, think they need curlers to have any effect.

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      • NCBBC says:

        What about transgenders?

        Any other cultural skills that Islam has brought to the UK, that we should adopt. Burning churches? Bombing concerts for young girls?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Amine Elbahi, 25, a lawyer from Roubaix who featured in the programme denouncing fundamentalism in his town, was also given policy protection after receiving more than 300 threats

      The documentary was broadcast in the run-up to April’s presidential election,”

      election time – will be against Islam before then with Islam afterwards.

      …..

      Look at Marine Le Pen’s stunned face during this exchange. Hilarious footage has made its way over the channel of a debate between Marine Le Pen and Macron’s Minister for the Interior Gérald Darmanin, who went on the attack accusing Le Pen of being “a little soft… not hard enough” on the issue of Islam in France. Clearly stunned by the claim, Le Pen, correctly in Guido’s view, ended up defending Islam as “a religion like any other”.
      https://order-order.com/people/marine-le-pen/

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      • tarien says:

        Don’t let us facilitate complancency in respect to Islam-those that follow the teachings of Islam are growing in numbers within Europe daily and now amount to over 60 million and at least 20 million or so in the United Kingdom and they are making loud noises in an effort to undermine the indigenous white society that so generously allowed them entry, with all the comforts they were unable to have in their own co-religionist countries. As has been said before the Muslim will invade, conquer, and then destroy. A European Caliphate will evolve, that is its target.

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        • NCBBC says:

          The defence we have is faith in God, But we have abandoned that.

          So how is secular atheist Britain to defend itself in the coming civil war and winning it, against committed believing Muslims? Not easy.

          Its quite likely that sharia will require that all pubs are closed down. At first instance, pubs will go underground. Later the resistance will start. I

          Written Several decades ago

          The Flying Inn by G.K. Chesterton

          Terrific read.

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  4. MarkyMark says:

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, we can do and say what we want, without financial penalties. (Chris Evans – £2.5million. Lineker, twitter 6.9M followers and the BBC guidelines?)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, our staff can hide what we pay them in independent companies. (David Dimbleby)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, our employees can have multiple jobs and we don’t mind. (Lineker+Walkers+BT Sports)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, our staff can force their opinion on the public using their celebrity status with no come back. (Lineker – ‘It’s hard to see a single positive (in Brexit)’)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, ,paedophiles can hide in bbc business with the TV Tax payers having no recourse to punish the business financially. (Jimmy Savile – Kids Entertainer, Chris Denning – DJ)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, we can, through the legal system and threat of prison with the Governments backing, demand 200,000 people to pay the wages of our staff. (Gary Lineker and friends)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, our Directors can claim £34.76 {2014} for hospitality when being paid £450,000 a year. (Lord Hall)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, we don’t have to declare where we spend YOUR money. (trustees)

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, we have hidden this information from the TV Tax payers for years.

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, we can send our well paid Ex-BBC staff into Ofcom – the company that is supposed to be independent.

    Because of the unique way the BBC is funded, we have revealed what happens when you create a totalitarian echo chamber (BBC diverse in people, but NOT diverse in opinion) that is enforced upon its citizens with threats of prison at £145pa … raising £3.5bn in TV Tax.

    https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/09/11/start-the-week-open-thread-141/#comment-865905

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  5. Rich says:

    Recently arrived UN planes in North Bay, Ontario, north of Ottawa.

    https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/02/united-nations-troops-brought-in-to-brutalize-peaceful-protesters-going-against-official-narrative-videos/

    Are the ‘cops’ riding roughshod over their supposed fellow citizens in Ottawa really Canadian?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Breaking : people spread Conspiracy Theory videos
      without bothering to do any checking

      \\ Voyageur Airways 180 miles away from Ottawa in North Bay have been servicing planes for NATO and the UN since the 1960s. Besides repairs, Voyageur provides handling, fuel services and terminal services.
      A UN plane at North Bay for service is a common sight.
      Since 1968. //
      Does James Bond turn up in Russia in a van emblazoned with the MI-6 logo ?

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  6. MarkyMark says:

    No Orwell?
    No Saville?

    BBC History marks BBC centenary with fascinating new digital collections, cultural and academic partnerships
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2021/bbc-history-centenary

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  7. Nibor says:

    Fancy a day out in London ?

    Well let’s meet up at Portland Place BBC headquarters. Our BBC . That’s what’s being broadcast now .
    Don’t worry about security men , just say you’re undocumented and ask the way to the canteen .
    There might be a leaving party for someone there ( hopefully Lice Dousett) but recent arrivals trump long-standing veteran workers so move them out and eat the food and enjoy the champagne- if they drink it outside Labour election victory days .
    When sated we’ll use Our BBC’s taxi account to tour around London which beats Auschwitz for the diversity of nationals finding they end there . Sick joke that so it should end up in a BBC so called comedy.
    Then at the end of the day those who aren’t in BBC guest hotels can share a cab with Victoria Derbyshire up to Salford .

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  8. Deborah says:

    10pm BBC1 news and I switched on slightly late. But it was very obvious that the BBC agenda is that it is too soon to lift covid restrictions. Damian Gramaticus and Mishal Hussein were agreeing that it was only a prime minister under police investigation that was lifting restrictions to appease his red wall MPs.

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  9. Guest Who says:

    Usually sharing brings up a para not shown on Twitter.

    If not, I have no clue what this is about.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    So in Scotland a guy who was at a school in Fife in 1980 into 1981
    said he was raped, molested and beaten by all three monks and was forced to watch attacks on other children.

    There was no actual criminal conviction for his case
    but the 3 monks were jailed or died after trials about other victims.
    But he has received compensation … of £1.4 million

    It’s quite right that ALL victims of child rape are compensated
    bu it doesn’t seem there’s much in the pot for grooming gang victims.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-60377109

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Fear, FEAR…. FEARRRRRRR,

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    • Nibor says:

      The Ukrainians point out that actually they have been defending their borders since the annexation of Crimea .

      At least they recognise that , unlike our Border Farce and Home Office.

      And we’ve sent them ordnance to repel an invasion !
      Is it better than the Border Farce ?
      If so why there but not here ?

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  12. Eddy Booth says:

    DUP MLA Christopher Stalford dies age 39
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-60451845

    “The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) politician Christopher Stalford has died suddenly at the age of 39.”

    Died suddenly, in modern mainstream media, means from vaccine side effects?

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    • NCBBC says:

      It doesn’t surprise me. From ONS statistics from Jan 2021 to Sept 2021, when the number of vaccinated to unvaccinated was roughly the same.

      The number of vaccinated people dying from non-covid causes was around 400,000. Covid deaths were around 17,000.

      For the unvaccinated that figure was around 60,000. Covid deaths were around 35,000.

      All other things being about equal.

      So the “vaccine” did save 17,000 lives but at a very expense. But it could be argued that the vaccine came into effect long after the unvaccinated began to acquire immunity- thus claiming success that might not be its to claim.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    latest : Triggernometry
    Ed Husain is a British writer, political advisor
    and author of Among the Mosques: A Journey Across Muslim Britain. (that exposed dark things about them)
    https://youtu.be/geZI74rCR9w

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  14. vlad says:

    I suspect one reason the biased BBC are ignoring the Durham report establishing that Hillary spied on Trump and fabricated Russiagate, is that the malfaisance went beyond crooked Hillary, and is traceable all the way to Saint Obama himself; He Who Can Do No Wrong.

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  15. Deborah says:

    Three times I have tried to find the words to post this, and failed but I am sure Maxi will criticise. The 10pm news reported the death of a 31 year old black man who worked in the music industry. Nothing about how he died and really 31 year old men don’t often so often that some comment might have been appropriate eg, ‘after a long illness’. I feel sorry for his family and friends but I think the reason the BBC reported his death was his skin colour.

    Jamal Edwards, apparently, who launched SB.tv. I still have no idea who he was or what he did. Sometimes I think I am living in a foreign land.

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    • JohnC says:

      The BBC write no less than 1,131 words about his death.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60457063

      Usually when they hold the reason back like this it is suicide or because of drugs. We will find out once they have squeezed as much agenda promotion out of it as they can.

      They do the same thing when some Bollywood star nobody has ever heard of dies.

      Just remember Tony Selby of ‘Get Some In’ – a white pale-and-stale who was a regular on our screens for many years – was not even reported at all by the BBC when he died.

      BBC: Your publicly funded racial discriminants.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Frankly those announcements about someone basically unknown to the general British public are embarrassing – even the news reader sounds uncomfortable . But I think the kidults get off on the excuse to play some bit of crap from said dead kid or the Bollywood lady .. all very BBC though … maybe it’s the Big Achievement of the diversity girl on £300k taxpayers ‘ cash p.a.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Tony Selby died twice in 2021
        First in June some media printed his obituary
        but that was wrong cos it was a BBC producer from Pebble Mill with the same name.
        Then in September the actor died.
        Very strange the BBC didn’t mention that. maybe the family requested that, or the BBC thought he was a pedo.

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  16. taffman says:

    GBP = 1.20104 EUR.
    Despite Brexit .

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  17. taffman says:

    “Storm Eustice: What do big storms mean for wind power?”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-wales-60435958
    With all the wind we have been having lately our electric bills should be going down ?
    Are the wind farms really that good or just a waste of money ? Perhaps Al Beeb will tell us the truth ?

    More importantly – Will Bo Jo drop the ‘Green Tax’ ?

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    • LynetteO says:

      Hydrogen is the fuel of the future .

      Scientists at Israel’s Technion Institute have developed another innovative process to efficiently produce hydrogen from water .It is the fastest system of its kind reported so far that operates with available metal (copper) catalysts. https://www.technion.ac.il/en/2021/09/hydrogen-water-electrolysis-clean-fuel/ https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jacs.1c03225

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      • StewGreen says:

        Rule : don’t count on new tech
        until it’s been shown to work at scale in the real world, not just the lab.

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        • JohnC says:

          Particularly from educational institutions who basically hype things up looking for funding.

          Lucky for them the BBC have ‘technology correspondents’ who don’t know their arses from their elbows and think intelligent robots + self-driving cars are nearly here.

          Lithium batteries became widely available about 20 years ago and I’ve seen many articles announcing some new ‘possible’ revolution in the technology from varioud universities. Not a single one has come to pass : the batteries still have the same energy density as they did back then – but the new ones are a lot safer.

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  18. Fedup2 says:

    Today watch

    Robinson and our Justin doing the gig . I was particularly interested in the ‘newspaper review ‘ which gives the BBC the opportunity to repeat approved propaganda from its friendly newspapers .

    But I was waiting for the report in the mail of Robinson ‘s sour comment about GBNews – made on Friday – to be mentioned . But it was not .

    The comments section of the mail on this issue was, as expected , a battlefield . But someone mentioned the method used to ‘count’ listeners to ‘today ‘.

    They claimed that listeners who listen for 15 minutes count as ‘one’ therefore if you listen for the full 3 hours you become 12 listeners ….
    ………hence the real listener numbers may be hugely inflated rendering Robinson s childish comment even more arrogant .
    Is this counting method true ? Would love to know .

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    • Scroblene says:

      Is this counting method true ? Would love to know .

      Best ask Dominion Fed – they’ll know!

      BBC = Billary Basket Case…

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Scroblene
        When it gets down to it the numbers mean little to the BBC – but everything to GBNews – which I reckon is on an upward trend – I certainly use it more now that it is online – however the sheer volume of adverts and frequency is pretty annoying …

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        • Scroblene says:

          Thanks Fed!

          I agree about ads, but they’re a small price to NOT pay for decent programmes!

          Just as an aside, I’m up to around 15,000 steps these days with new dog, and that means I crash out like a log and can’t even comment on any night time radio as I’m just out of it!

          Bit sad really, but I’m also losing some lock-down weight…

          …might even think of starting a family again…

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          I am wondering why so many of the adverts on GB News are from Welsh businesses. Are the Taffmen big supporters of GB News?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Weekly and monthly reach are BS metrics
      cos they are misleading.
      but I doubt they double count in that way just suggested.

      Adverts ?

      Simply watch on YouTube, wind the clock back, and then when the ads come on tap L to skip past them
      I watch at 1.5 speed too.

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    • theisland says:

      “Is this counting method true?”
      Good question. Here you can try to unravel the mysteries. Sorry about all the cut n paste. I personally do not like the look of it since it appears people are ‘invited’ to fill out the surveys

      https://www.rajar.co.uk
      RAJAR stands for Radio Joint Audience Research and is the official body in charge of measuring radio audiences in the UK. It is jointly owned by the BBC and the Radiocentre on behalf of the commercial sector.

      https://www.rajar.co.uk/content.php?page=development_background
      RAJAR measures all listening seamlessly via a single source. The data capture is through the continuous placement of diaries across 50 weeks of the year (100,000 p.a.), in which respondents record their live radio listening for one week. The weekly data is aggregated and published quarterly.

      https://www.rajar.co.uk/content.php?page=faq
      Data is collected using a seven-day listening diary. Approximately 110,000 adults 15+ are asked to fill one out over 50 weeks of the year.

      Can you tell me how many people listen to a specific programme?
      RAJAR collects listening data by quarter hour between 06.00 and 24.00 and by half hour between 24.00 and 06.00. This information is available from RAJAR by subscription only; please click here to see costs. Detailed station data, including programme listening is copyright to the station we do not publish this. If you call the radio station concerned they may give you the information. The data is their copyright.
      The BBC can be contacted via their website www.bbc.co.uk/contact#radio

      The RAJAR research service

      See also

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13661166

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      • StewGreen says:

        Rajar suspended service in 2020 whilst they figured out a new system
        They started back in Oct 2021 so I guess the 110K listeners diaries are the new thing
        I guess they use that very large sample, so they can do local stations.

        1 Xtra listening is down 50% from 6.1m hours/week in 2014 to 2.7m now (0.75m listeners , 3.7 hours)

        Asian Network almost halved 4.1m to 2.3m
        R1 down from 70m to 53m
        R2 peaked in 2016 with 187m now 164m
        R4 peaked in 2016 with 132m now 116m
        R5 peaked in 2016 with 41m now 34m
        R Humberside peaked in 2014 with 2.1m now 1.1m
        R Lincolnshire peaked in 2014 with 1.8m now 0.8m
        R London peaked in 2017 with 4.2m now 3.1m
        R Scotland peaked in 2017 with 7.6m down to 4.1 now back up to 6.1m
        R Ulster does pretty well around 6m
        R Wales peaked in 2014 with 4.1m now 3m
        https://radiotoday.co.uk/rajar/

        Talk Radio ..rapid recent growth now 4.6m
        just LBC stations get 28m individually but 80m if you add them up (London/Nationwide/UK)
        Numbers are listener hours per week

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    The inadequate frank gardener giving us the benefit of his ‘expertise ‘ as a security expert . Ha ha . But the question I ask – is what if putin comes out badly from the Ukraine thing ?

    Would there be a coup ? Would he land up dead ? Or is he so strong as to not be beyond challenge ? I’ve not heard anyone talking about this ….. maybe they should ask Frank …

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  20. Fedup2 says:

    Remember that time 0821 Monday 21 feb . The BBC says ‘joe Biden is unpopular ‘ – and then report on the crime sweeping the US – because of democrat policies ( it doesn’t say this – it just says ‘ progressives ‘) – a new term of abuse for this site and others …

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  21. Fedup2 says:

    The mail reports Andrew neill is to head a politics show for channel 4 on Sunday nights . Yawn . But the more interesting thing is that mail does not allow comments about such an innocuous report – perhaps it is for his tendency to run to the lawyers for defamation suites ….( careful what to write about him …)

    The hanging of a friend of Epstein / maxwell hasn’t got much attention has it ? Maybe when she slips in the shower that will be ignored too … must be some big names in the background to this …

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  22. Zephir says:

    May have mentioned CLINTON and his role in all this which the msm are desperation to keep quiet

    and his wifes crimes

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  23. Zephir says:

    EXCLUSIVE: Revealed: The remarkable lengths taken to whitewash Bill Clinton’s cosy links to pervert Jeffrey Epstein when Hillary ran for President

    Epstein’s lawyer Darren Indyke tried to get workers to declare they had not seen former president Bill Clinton visiting the disgraced financier’s ‘Paedo Island’
    Miles and Cathy Alexander received the email during ill-fated Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential run which she lost to Donald Trump

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10408733/The-bid-whitewash-Bill-Clintons-cosy-links-Jeffrey-Epstein-Hillary-ran-President.html

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  24. Zephir says:

    EXCLUSIVE: Jeffrey Epstein brought EIGHT young women with him on his trips to see Bill Clinton at the White House: Displayed photos of himself posing at the Briefing Room podium at his Palm Beach mansion

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10394863/Jeffrey-Epstein-brought-eight-women-Clinton-White-House.html

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  25. Zephir says:

    Clinton flew on Epstein’s jet upwards of 26 times after he left office, Epstein visited the Clinton White House at least 17 times between 1993 and 1995, and he is believed to have visited Epstein’s infamous “Pedo Island”.

    Photos also surfaced earlier this year of Clinton being given a massage by Chauntae Davies – who claims she was raped by Epstein – during a trip to Africa in 2002.

    Lawyers told The Sun Online how Clinton – along with everyone else who stepped foot on Epstein’s jet – should face a probe.

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/4371630/bill-clinton-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-investigation/

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  26. Guest Who says:

    BBC running out of blondes with helmets.

       10 likes

  27. andyjsnape says:

    Indhu Rubasingham, artistic director of the Kiln theatre
    The BBC is more than an institution. It is the backbone of our cultural identity, which unites and divides. We admire, respect and reject it in equal measures as we do a close family member, because we take it for granted. But like the NHS, its erosion and the potential for it being dismantled is to our peril.

    The above is on the bBC website, is it April 1st? Suppose “Divide” is mentioned

       12 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Rubasingham “has directed radio plays for BBC Radio 4, BBC Radio 3 and the BBC World Service.”

      I think she has a relationship with Francis Turnly who also wrote plays for the BBC

         2 likes

  28. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Jack Ritchie’s parents have argued there were no public health warnings about the risk to life posed by gambling products.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-60433095?

    Jack Ritchie inquest: Parents hope for gambling laws change

    ***
    #CCBGB

    Is there any pr sob story the bbc will not champion?

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    • Zephir says:

      I am tempted to advise a safety sign on their front door:

      “may contain nuts”

         14 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Zephir -It can never be the fault of the individual .

      I think – today – the bbc is likely to melt down when nut nut says restrictions are over and go back to the office . The commons speaker – rapidly turning into his predecessor (grandstanding ) will find a barb for the tories and the left will chuck ‘reckless ‘ allegations at nut nut …

      .. and then pivot to the ‘Tory cost of living crisis ‘ along with the human bagpipe of the SNP …

         12 likes

      • Zephir says:

        Yes, and this statistic is shocking:

        A shocking National Audit Office (NAO) report today shows how fast the cost of medical negligence cases is rising: £60bn is set aside by trusts to cover claims – not all to be paid out in one year, but money held over. That’s a sharp rise from £51bn in the previous year, and the NAO says it’s one of the government’s biggest liabilities.

        By 2020 the NHS will be paying out £3.2bn a year in claims. How much is that? Here’s the rough scale of it: every 1% extra in pay to NHS staff in England costs £500m. So, for that negligence money, they could have a hefty rise, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies. Or the 50,000 empty NHS posts could be filled, at a cost of £2-3bn, according to the Public Accounts Committee.

        Medical negligence claims have soared since the introduction of no-win-no-fee deals, as lawyers now tout for business, even advertising in NHS waiting rooms. The bonanza for lawyers has been remarkable: today’s report finds that in 61% of successful cases, the legal costs are higher than the damages paid out.

        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/07/lawyers-nhs-medical-negligence-cases

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Zephir
          Funny that – when I was considering a ‘career change ‘ I planned on becoming a lawyer specialising in med neg claims – the biggest barrier being the behaviour of the medical mafia in institutional covering up as a work practice ..

          I never followed it up beyond studying it at a fairly high level … my personal morality ( which is different now ) was a factor as I didn’t believe in raping the NHS ,
          Now id do it without blinking …..£

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          • digg says:

            This reminds me of a conversation in a pub with a young chap about to start a degree course in Law. When I asked him what type of Law he would like to specialise in he said Medical Negligence of course, because it is in huge demand and pays better than any other form of law career for far less effort.

            He claimed that the US medical claims business was huge and climbing rapidly and paid the highest return for effort and that this was to come in the UK.

            At the time I shrugged it off but it clearly all makes sense now.

            So it appears we have public supported universities teaching people how to rape the NHS for cash knowing that the Government will have no choice but to keep raising the publics cash input to the NHS to keep it afloat as it is a sacred cow.

            A perfect circle of deceit in fact!

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Digg
              Ironically – a couple of careers later I was looking at ‘institutional learning ‘ and looked at the NHS and it’s ability to kill / harm people each and every year for the same procedures and how they were trying to stop it .

              There were moves to import the safety procedures aviation uses but I think the medical mafia would fight any ‘insult ‘ to their professionalism .

              I trained as an amateur pilot so am well aware of the monthly output of the CAA which is readily available online for the wise to learn from . Pity doctors don’t have the same drive to be better – but then £££££££ and public misplaced respect counts for more …

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        • G says:

          Lot’s of scams. Most of which are accounted for by sloppy, second rate workmanship. Take for example the assertion that hip replacement ops. is about 98% successful. If you do have a problem post-op due to a bodge up, they won’t admit it. I’ve caught a number of the surgeons out, lying (or ignoring/dismissing the facts). Classic example? – Iliopsoas Tendon Impingement. Essentially, the cup is fitted not square and the protrusion, normally one side, traps the tendon. I’ve lived with this since not long after my first replacement.

          Sloppy operating and even remedial surgeons not prepared to admit to the problem existing. Likely 4.3% of all hip replacement problems. They abhor the question: “If its not worn out and there are no other signs of damage, how do you account for the serious discomfort?”

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        • MarkyMark says:

          This enhanced the share of NHS funding coming from NICs (in 2017/18, NICs were estimated to be just under £24 billion), but general tax still accounts for the vast majority of NHS funding (approx. 80%).

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    • StewGreen says:

      Surely the Gary Lineker show has often promoted masses of gambling corp advertising by having it on view during most of the football matches.

         11 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Totally different.

        In the same way bragging about corridors rolling with bubbly was, and then running #researchsuggests #prasnews about drinking a month later.

        Being unique, and exempted, has many privileges.

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  29. Guest Who says:

    BBC bringing back Snog, Marry, Avoid mentioning?

    The gruesome threesome who the MSM protect.

       25 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Wow – tro do getting 67 seconds uninterrupted and a further 73 seconds interruption free . The reporter on the left looks at him in adoration . He is so beautiful isn’t he ? Dad must be proud . And he certainly watched a lot of JFK videos –

      – meanwhile I wonder if blackfacehitler is still trending on the twitter … ?

         19 likes

  30. Guest Who says:

    Fick Ange, of Westminster, cannot easily detect what goes well with a cheeky £75 Malbec.

    Such a tragedy is clearly solely down to Brexit, and Boris’ Johnson.

       13 likes

    • moggie63 says:

      Rubbish, it’s obvious the nose is incapable of adapting to climate change.

         11 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        My mum lost hers early in the dementia phase.

        Just dealt with it.

        However, it is an issue as things developed until we had to disconnect the cooker and take meals over as she tended to forget what was left on.

           11 likes

  31. Zephir says:

    My dog hasn’t got a nose / how does he smell.. forget it

    Coat, door, gone

       17 likes

  32. StewGreen says:

    2016 Justin Trudeau speaking against 2022 Justin Trudeau

    Justin Trudeau at the World Economic Forum 6 years ago

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  33. AsISeeIt says:

    Mild cold versus our royal family crown jewel edition
    And a couple of those subjects we could care less about

    We wake up to a definite change in the weather. The formerly severely coronaphobic ‘i’ newspaper admits: ‘Queen still at work with Covid. Queen is suffering “mild cold-like symptoms”… Monarch, 95, will continue with “light duties”

    Which rather puts to shame our legions of civil service shirkers.

    Queen’s covid example to us all‘ (Daily Mail) – well, quite.

    The tabloid Sun eternally keen on abbreviation says: ‘HRH to WFH‘ – but I think at 95 we can forgive her for doing some light duties at Windsor for a day or two: ‘…hailing Team GB’s Olympic medal winning curlers. She should return to engagements later this week‘.

    The Mirror stops just short of the obvious cliché: ‘Queen gets covid but she carries on

    The freebie giveaway Metro can’t help going all the way: ‘One keeps calm and carries on

    Our BBC is rather keen to personalise the declaration of an end to the panic in the person of the PM: ‘Covid: Living with Covid plan will restore freedom, says Boris Johnson‘ – as though he is the only person in the entire world who thinks that.

    The BBC’s Health correspondent Nick Triggle naturally sounds the note of scepticism: ‘Covid: Is England ready for its last remaining rule to be ditched?

    Watch out for the coming wave of Long-Covid. We know some conditions are more difficult to shake off. Particularly the psychological ones. The Financial Times clearly suffers from long-term Long-Brexit: ‘Brexit let-down. The promised fruits are difficult to find

    Meanwhile FT Datawatch says a bit more than it intended here with a survey of American public opinion about the US Supreme Court – as if we in the UK could really care less? ‘In the past three years the share of Americans with a favourable view of the Supreme court has declined 15 percentage points. The court will be in the spotlight this year as President Joe Biden has pledged to nominate the first black woman‘ – Oopps… the FT linking two interesting statements there.

    The Winter Olympics… most of us have ignored it but it is an opportunity for media that consider themselves more right-on and more youth-orientated to get most excited about: ‘On top of the curled!‘ puns the Metro excitedly; ‘Eve Muirhead leads Team GB to only Winter Olympic gold‘ regrets the ‘i’; the world-weary Telegraph instinctively takes the long view: ‘Curling team polish first gold for 20 years‘ – whilst the rest of the national titles’ frontpages couldn’t be bothered.

    Well, not quite…

    Chilly willy fears‘ – are raised in the Daily Star. Lord knows, we’re very well used to media fears – but this is surely a new one? The Sun explains further: ‘CHILLY WILLY ‘Unbearable pain’ – Olympic skier’s PENIS freezes during horror cross country event sparking fears he’ll never have kids‘ – (I reproduce the Sun’s large print capitalisation there).

    In fact the Daily Satyr has had this covered some time ago: ‘Penis-shaped slippers promise to keep Brits ‘willy warm’ this winter. Pierre the Penis Slippers have taken the internet by storm. Will you be picking up a pair for the colder months?‘ (Daily Star October 2019) – A pair? The mind boggles. I suppose one on and one in the wash?

    Perhaps someone should bring this wise precaution up at the next Sage meeting. With covid and mask wearing on the wane our public health officials could do with a new issue on which to mandate. The police would enjoy dealing with enforcement, I’m sure.

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  34. popeye says:

    In 3rd world countries one of the first stages of a revolution was to take over the radio station. In the 1st world this has been achieved by stealth over many years in preparation for the final putsch. The BBC has demonstrated this by lying by omission.

    Many examples including ignoring the Canadian truck protest and the anti-democratic Trudeau responses; three years of Gilet Jaune demos and violence; four years reporting how Trump’s election was manipulated by the Russians and completely ignoring the evidence that it was a fraud committed by the Democrats; massive reporting of a dozen Extinction Rebellion protestors, totally ignoring 200,00 ant-vax demonstrators even when they surround the BBC itself; ignoring 1,400 rapes in Rotherham, headlining Hancock’s affair.

    Many, many more I’m sure you can bring up.

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  35. Doublethinker says:

    How long will GBN be allowed to keep its license to broadcast by Ofcom ? Will it be forced to moderate its tone to become more acceptable to Ofcom and their masters in the global blob?

    Styne, Oliver, Wootton , Dolan, Farage , Brazier and others frequently say and show the downside of being ruled by the international Blob . They alert us ordinary folk to the fate that the international Blob has in store for us , they draw conclusions from the behaviour of world leaders eg Trudeau and Adern. They have guests who are outspoken in their condemnation of the Blob. They warn us of the way we are being disenfranchised . That our vote is our only source of power but that power is being taken from us by the Blob.
    Clearly after his dig at GBN, Robinson over at the BBC has them firmly lodged in his mind. If they are allowed to keep on telling us the truth and raise the political consciousness of ordinary folks so that they understand what the Blob’s plan is , GBN will pose a serious threat . Ofcom is the obvious remedy and so is continuing the campaign to cut of advertising income. I’m sure that the Hate Speech bill passing through Parliament will also be used to throttle GBN.
    Let us make hay while the sun is still shining, just, tell your friends to stop paying the BBC and tune into GBN.

       44 likes

    • Peter Grimes says:

      I had trouble getting GBNews on my very old DAB radio so I bought a new DAB2 portable and I listen to it most of the time, except for the awful, flat- vowelled ‘Dewbs’.

         10 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Peter – ha ha – I try to channel it through the Amazon Alexa thing but won’t have it – it defaults to the BBC ….. I agree on the off switch for doobs – she just hasn’t got it even after being on air 6 months ….
        The nana lady has fired a broadside at the NHS wasting money .. very unfashionable … it’s on twitter…

        As for wasting money – try the ‘queens commonwealth fund ‘ – 98% – yes 98% of donations goes on staff pay ! …. Charity commission investigates ? Close it …

           19 likes

        • Wink1 says:

          Fed, if you say ….Alexa ask Radioplayer to play GB news radio …..it should work.🤞

             8 likes

          • Fedup2 says:

            Wink1 – you are a diamond geezer/ ess – it worked – many thanks … in my deeply suspicious mind I thought maybe the BBC had bunged Amazon to keep GBNews figures down …

            Many many thanks – and it works in a Foreign Land Too. …

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Peter .. GBnews is on DAB+
        that’s why old DAB radios don’t get it

        You can get GBnews on any device that will place youTube

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      • Fred Stubber says:

        She has a lovely voice and accent. Far better than them that say crorse when they mean cross, or Alexaaaaaander when they mean Alexander.
        Flat Cap Fred

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  36. Guest Who says:

    Beebworld. Apparently.

       13 likes

  37. Guest Who says:

    Ramping up does not work like it used to.

       10 likes

  38. Guest Who says:

    Is Otto Maxi, gets asked, reportedly.

       22 likes

  39. Foscari says:

    Fedup and fellow contributors I could tell you a “story”
    about Ukraine about extortion with personal implications
    you would find incredulous . But it is 100% true . Maybe
    one day I will write a book about it.
    Ukraine is a “mixed up” country . It could be a wealthy ,
    with its natural resources but corruption, mafia run institutions
    and of course internal discourse has dragged it down.
    Putin is being brilliantly Machiavellian . And in the end he will
    win. He wont instigate an all out war against Ukraine. The
    fall of a democratic Ukraine. And that’s an oxymoron will
    come from inside. And the seeds have been sown by Putin.
    When the USA guaranteed, the then Soviet Union
    agreed to the reunification of Germany. That none of the
    ex “satellite ” Soviet republics would join NATO. The USA
    should of kept the agreement. It was , as an analogy, Scotland
    becoming independent and joining the Warsaw Pact !!
    The pressure that Putin has put on Ukraine will sooner
    than later bring him his rewards. And it could even happen
    at the ballot box. If there is not an internal coup.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Foscari – certainly now we know western governments can steal
      elections it will be easier for putin to do it .
      Meanwhile i would like to think arrangements have been made to reduce shortfalls in gas with that from the US – unless the u bost war is re enacted …
      The UK gas storage weakness remains a huge weakness which there appears no drive to fix .

      Perhaps putin will blow up a few gas pipes

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  40. MarkyMark says:

    It can happy quickly ….

    On 22–23 February 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security service chiefs to discuss the extrication of the deposed Ukrainian president, Viktor Yanukovych. At the end of the meeting, Putin remarked that “we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia”.[4] On 23 February, pro-Russian demonstrations were held in the Crimean city of Sevastopol. On 27 February, masked Russian troops without insignia[41] took over the Supreme Council (parliament) of Crimea[42][43] and captured strategic sites across Crimea, which led to the installation of the pro-Russian Sergey Aksyonov government in Crimea, the conducting of the Crimean status referendum and the declaration of Crimea’s independence on 16 March 2014.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

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  41. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    https://ibb.co/Hd50rXj

       3 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Links to ‘sexxy Russian wimmin in london looking for a man over 30’

      Please send bank details and pin number

         10 likes

  42. theisland says:

    “Whether it is due to ineptitude or cowardice, we now have a situation where the government has lost control over its civil service. And so public servants are quietly getting on with the job of turning the British state into a woke institution. Unless serious steps are taken to depoliticise the civil service, our democracy will be compromised.”

       27 likes

    • moggie63 says:

      This is hardly news, anybody with even the most basic knowledge of this country has been aware of this for years, if not decades. Yes, Minister wasn’t a comedy, it was a fly on the wall documentary with a large element of Civil Service training manual.

         21 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      I doubt that the Blob can be ousted from its position of power by democratic means.
      Firstly, I sure that after the last Presidential ‘election’ in the US the voting systems in the West can be manipulated by the blob to get the result they like.
      Secondly, even if we vote in a right wing government the civil service won’t implement its policies. We already see how they throw policies they don’t like into the long grass or call for a judicial review where a blobist judge decides in the blob’s favour.

         22 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      BBC in discrimination row after opening trainee role only to ethnic minorities
      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bbc-discrimination-row-advertising-job-ethnic-monorities-b941600.html

         9 likes

      • JohnC says:

        ‘Positive discrimination is unlawful under the Equality Act 2010’

        So how are the BBC able to be blatantly guilty of racial and sexual discrimination on their news and in their programs without OFCOM telling them it’s illegal ?.

           13 likes

  43. Guest Who says:

    Megharry looking well rough.

       4 likes

  44. BRISSLES says:

    As Deborah mentioned in her earlier post, I too feel I am living in some parallel universe. All channels incl GBN had lengthy reports of some young black lad dying, who became a multi millionaire via his Youtube rap channel (I think I’ve got that right), although he keeps getting referred as an entrepreneur (?).

    Yes, always sad to hear of anyone passing at 31, but I rather suspect that those kids in the various newsrooms who are responsible for news output, seriously believe that its only their generation that listen to the news !

    This young man is shown holding up an MBE which he received for services to music (dear God). Once upon a time one had to wait decades for any sort of honour, but since the advent of mass migration, it seems to be more of a coincidence that these beribboned awards are being handed out with Lucky Bags along with a sherbet dip !

    Oh, and Jamal Edwards – never heard of him.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Take the knee 3386.jpg?width=465&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=c3c30879d5a95c2eb353422efd892a32

         8 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      “SBTV is one of the leading online youth broadcasters & is the only place you need to be going to get the best coverage in and out of the music scene. Based in London, ”

      Although the channel has 1.2 million subscribers
      It only uploads 2 videos/month
      and gets 20K views between them

      5-8 years ago some of their videos would get 5 to 8 million views
      All gansta rappers except Ed Sheeran

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  45. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – the BBC back up the Lame Labour Leader but other news is, unhelpfully, a bit contrary

    We get the news this morning that Boris Johnson (note the absence of Prime Minister in BBC-speak) is about to announce the lifting of the last Pandemic rules in England. The BBC are opposed. The BBC mention that the Labour Party (note the absence of Sir Keir Starmer) is opposed. The BBC mention that the TUC are also opposed to the lifting of these rules in England.

    Unfortunately, the news from Australia is somewhat contrary: Australia is now open again to tourists, with the exception of one State, as long as those tourists are ‘double jabbed’. Does a right hook and an uppercut from a five year old count as double-jabbed or do you have to do ‘the full Mike Tyson’? Unfortunately, the other big news story – according to the BBC – also undermines the BBC’s campaign to keep everyone in England imprisoned forever with ‘Covid rules – OK’ has been undermined by our Monarch – may God bless her and keep her well – has ‘caught a Covid virus’. The Palace are keeping silent about which one but Her Majesty is undertaking ‘light duties’ on behalf of the nation.

    Bit of a UK-wide ‘Covid Rules – K.O.’, if you ask me.

       22 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      Going to be interesting watching Australia, a country with one of the worlds weakest natural covid immunities, cope with the influx of tourists.

         12 likes

  46. moggie63 says:

    I would never have bothered to read the book, I’m far too shallow but that was a nice summary of key points. Thank you.

       10 likes

  47. MarkyMark says:

    From John Gatto, it’s not just children that don’t want to know about the real working world anymore. Swap child for adults in the following article …

    The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years. A close study of what big people were up to was always the most exciting occupation of youth, but nobody wants to grow up these days and who can blame them? Toys are us. … Time for a return to democracy, individuality, and family. I’ve said my piece. Thank you. {naturalchild.org – john gatto – jan1990}

    relates to Westerners: Guilty of Reading the News {atestoneinstitute.org 27sep2017}

    – this is also why NewsPapers should link to a report if it is mentioned and not make it paywall’d

    https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/09/27/mid-week-open-thread-126/comment-page-2/#comment-869762

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  48. Eddy Booth says:

    Jamal Edwards, music entrepreneur and Youtube star, dies aged 31
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60457063

    “..passed away yesterday after a sudden illness..”

    Another vax related death?

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