639 Responses to Start the Week 2 May 2022

  1. Johnda says:

    Just listening to rhe news about the Ukraine
    Russia has bombed a electricity set of sub stations to stop the railways working. So easy to cut off lines of transit easier than bombing railway lines.
    This made me think about the electrification of our railways .
    If We have big power cuts we have no trains. Oh dear!!!!

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    • tomo says:

      commercial cold storage rarely has more than 48 hours in the backup diesel tanks…

      Old fashioned siege warfare – akin to Kkyiv’s cutting Crimea’s fresh water – tit for tat.

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC routinely goes to a retired lefty Chief Constable – Pete Fahy – who has already had to apologist for GMPs multiple failings whilst he was in charge

    The BBC today used Fahy to say that Durham plod should look again at Starmer and his Currygate – but it’s bad that plod gets involved in politics –
    Funny that lefties like him didn’t pop up when the number 10 cake thing was hot ….
    Easy bias where Fahy is involved – go count yer pension Pete…

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  3. Zephir says:

    Bloody disgusting, THIS should be a f@ckin hate crime

    RAF apologise for wanting pilot who is ‘preferably not white male’ to represent them at Top Gun: Maverick press event

    Its communication team sent an email looking for RAF’s ‘face’ at the event
    The press event will be launching the latest film in the Top Gun movie sequel
    The email said it was looking for a ‘preferably not white male’ to be the RAF face
    It was slammed by critics who called the attitude ‘divisive and dangerous’
    Ministry of Defence apologised, saying the language ‘should not have been used

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10781781/RAF-apologise-wanting-preferably-not-white-male-pilot-represent-Gun-event.html

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    • G says:

      I’d prefer it to be, and remain so, out in the open so we are aware of the slow slide into black preference for all things. That is in the vain hope that the sheeple will wake up one day when all hell will break loose. Just a dream…….

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    • tomo says:

      re:‘preferably not white male’

      A suitably ethnic otherwise abled person?

      A Royal Navy officer of my acquaintance with ca. 20 years under his belt baled out and took early retirement before his final “at sea” deployment – triggered by stuff like English not first language and disabled provisions being wibbled about – purportedly…

      He chose to flee to New Zealand or Aussie Navy (it was one or the other) – who were offering sweet deals …

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  4. Thoughtful says:

    The government and the news media are certainly keeping people in the dark over what is going on in the world.

    Did you know that yesterday the German government issued advice to all its citizens to stock up and hold at least 10 days food in the house?

    https://hindustannewshub.com/russia-ukraine-news/germans-urged-to-stock-up-on-strategic-food-supply-due-to-war-in-ukraine-the-moscow-times/

    Or how about the Polish government publishing a ‘survival guide’ in case of war ?

    https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/04/06/polish-government-publishes-survival-guide-in-case-of-war/

    Similar advice has been issued in Taiwan, in Germany they are begining to rebuild the air attack shelters, but in Britain where Boris cares more about giving away free stuff to foreigners absolutely nothing is being done to protect the British population, and the media are assisting in that.

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    • G says:

      Thoughtful,

      “Or how about the Polish government publishing a ‘survival guide’ in case of war ?”

      And, as I understand, they have not had a direct nuclear threat like the UK. But, as usual, the UK Government is well, ‘behind the curve’. Par for the course when it comes to the indigenous.

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  5. BRISSLES says:

    Photograph in today’s paper of the male version of the BBCs Nadya – aka BBCs Jay Blades, getting his MBE from the Palace. Laughingly its for “services to heritage craft” !! Dear God this takes the biscuit. His claim to fame is painting chair legs different colours. Then he gets a prime spot of presenting Repair Shop, where his contribution is shaking hands of the contributors – thus (like Nadya) raises his profile considerably (she too has an MBE), and now he has been given a show on Channel 5 revisiting his East End home – who the f…..k is interested ?

    Sadly those poor sods who are the REAL skilled artisans on the show, do not get the publicity or the honours they so deserve. The honours system is truly a farce.

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Like everything else, it’s all about ticking boxes and fulfilling quotas Briss.

      A lot of people aren’t yet aware just how far such practices are now spreading through the private sector (not just the public sector any more).

      Maybe when a few major structures start collapsing, because of incompetant ‘tick box’ structural engineers, or people dying of typhoid, because of totally useless ‘quota’ water analyists, or planes falling out of the sky, because of ‘right gender’ pilots, or global pandemics, because of ‘right profile’ microbiologists… people might sit up and take notice… or perhaps not.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdPmNM0IF7Y

      watch?v=BdPmNM0IF7Y

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  6. tomo says:

    China’s going to ban umbrellas aren’t they?

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  7. andyjsnape says:

    Putin must pay high price for aggression – EU, “reports” the bBC
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61295448

    Reporting that the eu will stop using Russian oil in 6 months – Russians should pull the plug now – that might get the tinpot eu 3rd reich actually seeing who is pulling the strings

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    • Flotsam says:

      Ban on Russian oil in 6 Months? The invasion will be over before then.
      Seriously, I can’t see how Germany can possibly operate without given its high dependance on Russian oil. My immediate thought is that there will be some kind of political fudge or Germany will just ignore the ban…………..or the war will be over.

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  8. Eddy Booth says:

    UK cuts Russia off from management services
    13:27
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-61295448

    Russia has been banned from using British management consulting, accounting and PR services in changes announced by the UK

    Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said the ban will cut off service exports “critical to the Russian economy”.
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  9. Fedup2 says:

    BBC radio drama

    The 40th anniversary of Argentina invading the Falkland’s ( or the Malvinas in BBC speak ) ….

    And what do they celebrate ? What to they do a 5 part? Drama on R4 – yes a scum civil servant called Pontin who released classified information because he thought he had a higher morality than those paying him .

    I managed the first episode – naturally no mention of British sailors killed by the Argentinians …. I worked with a few ex RN who had been on vessels sunk by the Argie enemy – they were ‘ different ‘ – and not in a good way – sometimes – and that 1000 stare was never far away …

    Only a Traitor – Far left State broadcaster could broadcast this propaganda and not anything to celebrate the liberation of the Falklands.. no TV licence please …

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  10. tomo says:

    #awkward?

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Is the Indian woman who is less of an Indian than Donald Trump is ? If so she ought to have died of shame a couple of years ago.

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      • tomo says:

        Not just that – she got some edukayshun off the back of being a minority.

        Fauxcahontas

        – the one to watch for is the ghastly old trout Maxine Waters – she’s inevitably going to spout poison.

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  11. Zephir says:

    Babies Lives Matter, or BLM for short:

    where’s our riot ? I need a new TV

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    • MarkyMark says:

      ALM – Albino Lives Matter.

      Persecution of people with albinism (sometimes abbreviated PWA[1]) is based on the belief that certain body parts of albinistic people can transmit magical powers. Such superstition is present especially in some parts of the African Great Lakes region, it has been promulgated and exploited by witch doctors and others who use such body parts as ingredients in rituals, concoctions and potions with the claim that their magic will bring prosperity to the user (muti or medicine murder).[2]

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    • tomo says:

      Preferred Alternate Acronym:

      Buy Large Mansions”

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  12. Woodenfish says:

    AT LAST! THE LONG WAIT IS OVER!

    A few centuries ago, Andrew Marr quit the BBC so that he could escape being stifled by impartiality rules and reveal his true opinions.

    What an agonising wait it has been! But now it’s over. Marr has told all to the MailOnLine. Stand by to be completely amazed by his insights and analyses of what’s really going on. This is the stuff that he couldn’t say while working for the BBC, the stuff that only journalists “on the inside” could possibly know.

    THE HIGHLIGHTS:

    – The BBC’s impartiality rules are “frustrating”

    – Tony Blair’s Iraq invasion was a “catastrophe”. At first Marr supported it, but then learned that the WMD pretext was wrong.

    – Biden should not have called for regime change in Moscow.

    – Jeremy Corbyn “never thought things through.”

    – Boris Johnson is “an alpha male albino gorilla”.

    – It is up to Tory MPs to decide if they have the guts to get rid of the PM.

    – The monarchy is rarely questioned, because of the high regard in which the Queen is held. After she has gone it will “face an existential crisis.”

    – Mass immigration from Africa and the Middle East into Europe is caused by climate change.

    – If Marr were director-general of the BBC, he would “move the corporation to a subscription model.”

    COMING SOON: Emily Maitlis reveals why running rings round Prince Andrew makes her the cleverest journalist in the world, and what brand of chocolate fudge she likes best.

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  13. MarkyMark says:

    650 MPs – porn .. outrage.
    650 MPs – 1400+ raped kids .. meh

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    Hey – on the day before local London elections Sadiq the emir announces that xrail is opening a bit in a couple of weeks –

    Well I’m voting sadiq – sadiq is my guy – vote sadiq ….*

    * I’ve already postal voted …

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    • MarkyMark says:

      London Mayor of Pakistan heritage asks why Europeans are under represented in attacks in Pakistan …

      2017.10.02 Pakistan Malam Jabba 1 killed 2 injured A bomb planted by religious radicals claims the life of a villager.

      2017.09.26 Pakistan Raiwind 2 killed 0 injured A young couple is honor killed by the girl’s parents.

      2017.09.23 Pakistan Rajgal 1 killed 0 injured A border guard is murdered by Muslim extremists.

      2017.09.19 Pakistan Sukkur 5 killed 8 injured A bomb planted by suspected Lashkar-e-Jhangvi leaves five dead, including two factory workers.

      List of Killings in the Name of Islam: Last 30 Days

      London Mayor of Islamic Faith asks why non-Muslims are under represented in Halal Slaughter houses…

      “Here’s the beautiful thing … these are British products, selling Islamic Products, selling Halal Products (Halal – throat cut whilst conscious, slaughtered by Muslim only employee, incantation to animal from a Koran by Muslim only). That is niche and general, but it’s gone main stream. {Sadiq Khan – youtube Chicken Cottage Award Ceremony 2012}”

      https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/10/02/start-the-week-open-thread-144/comment-page-3/#comment-871107

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    • Guest Who says:

      The whole thing is bizarre. Well, not if one recalls the entire MSM thinks London is the country and Labour is the only game in town.

      The whole sorry bubble is making out like this is a general election, when in reality it is a few places supposedly deciding on councillors.

      Out here in the shires no one has a clue, or cares what they are on about.

      Enjoy your rate hikes Beeboids.

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  15. MarkyMark says:

    But the UK lags behind top performers such as China, Singapore and Estonia.
    The UK’s teenagers were also found to have among the lowest levels of “life satisfaction”.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-50563833

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Marky – there was a discussion about this – and grammar schools -yesterday on GBNews with Peter `Hitchens – whom I think has a book due .

      Anyway – his bottom line was that even if Uk wanted to bring back large numbers of grammar schools there are not the quality of teacher trained to do it – we have too many dumbed down woke teachers ….
      The kids where I live are mainly feral – and I suppose it has always been that way …

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      • MarkyMark says:

        From John Gatto, it’s not just children that don’t want to know about the real working world anymore. Swap child for adults in the following article …

        The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years. A close study of what big people were up to was always the most exciting occupation of youth, but nobody wants to grow up these days and who can blame them? Toys are us. … Time for a return to democracy, individuality, and family. I’ve said my piece. Thank you. {naturalchild.org – john gatto – jan1990}

        relates to Westerners: Guilty of Reading the News {atestoneinstitute.org 27sep2017}

        – this is also why NewsPapers should link to a report if it is mentioned and not make it paywall’d

        https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/09/27/mid-week-open-thread-126/comment-page-2/#comment-869762

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  16. vlad says:

    Not a good week for the US Left. First they lose control over their propaganda outlet known as Twitter, now they may be losing the right to murder babies on demand.

    The BBC must be in mourning.

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  17. StewGreen says:

    ITV local news “Some farmers say the dry April could cause a farming crisis”

    The reporter @hayemj seemed to have found some farmers who want to promote “Climate Crisis”

    Last month she was telling us there’s a “milk price crisis” coming

    Today she was in the middle of a brown field, but the drone footage showed high yellow rapeseed in the field behind her as well as green fields behind her
    And her own field had well green grass borders about 4 inches long.

    Our water butt was overflowing most of March
    went down to half
    and now it’s back up to two thirds full.

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      A certain kind of farmer ALWAYS moans, it has been a dry April, with quite a lot of watering of the allotment for me, but there will ALWAYS be something. No two years are the same, and agriculture is unpredictable.

      Rape (the plant variety) seems to have done really well this year so far, and I’m sure it’s not the only crop that is growing well, my peas and potatoes are streaks ahead and it looks like it’s going to be a bumper crop of both of those, but my leeks, not looking good this year, they like rain (that’s why they grow well in Wales), if it had been a wet April the tables would be turned, that’s just how it goes.

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      • Scroblene says:

        I can remember taking water containers down to our allotment in the kids’ old pram around this time of year!

        As an old-ish gardener told me, once the plants are established, ‘they need get their roots down deep, because that’s where the grub is’!

        40 tomato plants this year, and counting…

        … but they’re in big pots, so will need a splash every now and then to prevent B.E.R!

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  18. taffman says:

    Not on Al Beeb – Yet .
    Stand by for more Invaders on their way across the English Channel. They want our housing, hotels, social security, benefits, medical facilities and very shortly our food .
    The French want to dump them upon us and our Tory Government is unable to defend the nation with force. They just throw our money about like there is no tomorrow and with no effect.

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    • G says:

      I say again and again, moor a disused cruise liner just inside the ‘border’ at sea. Raise the ‘ball diamond ball’ and stand by to take in (and keep) invaders……………

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    • G says:

      Taffman,

      Keep voting to support the politicians doing precisely what they want…………..

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  19. Northern Voter says:

    Here’s a thought, now that Elon Musk owns Twitter, why does he not just shut it down and wait for all the sh1t slinging wokes to start begging for him to open it up again?

    He can then set all the rules of use that he likes and give them 2 fingers.

    Jobs a gudun, as we say up north.

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  20. BRISSLES says:

    Was Nigel taken off air ???

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  21. Fedup2 says:

    It was as if somebody pulled a plug . At 1950 london time Nigel Farage is interviewing the US journo who broke the Hunter Biden computer story – so busily suppressed by the MSM .

    And the screen went blank for 8 minutes – but came back after the interview ended. I checked the radio output and it was still working ….
    If i was suspicious i might think certain people still dont want thr hunter biden story to come out …

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  22. Charlie Farley says:

    BRISSLES
    Exactly what I thought , Biden supporters hidden inside GBNEWS…Deep State (BBC) in action again !

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    • xplod says:

      Don’t often comment now, but drop in most days. It was very obvious that Nigel Farages’ conversation was sabotaged, and not for the first time, I suspect. Very disappointing, and there needs to be a “mole-hunt”, culminating in a targeted cull !

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Xplod – it seems pretty obvious that there are severe internal problems / sabotage at GBNews – that break in transmission was so obvious – and there was no sign that Farage was aware that the TV output had been cut – no apology on the radio site ….

        When you think about it this is very serious . At the other end of the scale the BBC today programme occasionally has ‘technical issues ‘ with interviews of people who say unexpected or unapproved things …. Or just use the ‘we’ve run out of time – now the weather – ‘technique ..

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  23. Zephir says:

    Third world immigrants and what do you expect ? and why is she not in court for this ?

    Labour councillor who ‘shared Holocaust denial article that called Anne Frank a ”bisexual degenerate” and said ”you should have listened” to Hitler’ is suspended from the party ahead of election tomorrow

    Belgica Guaña is standing for re-election in the London borough of Newham

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10782591/Labour-councillor-standing-election-tomorrow-shared-Holocaust-denial-article.html

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  24. Zephir says:

    What this thing shared :

    ” ‘The so-called ”Holocaust” is propaganda in an ongoing war between the Jews and those with the courage to stand up to them – a war that began with the National Socialists coming to power in Germany in the 1930s and continues to this very day.

    The Jews do not have the means or the numbers to defeat Europeans with the force of arms so they have to rely mainly on infiltration, subversion, and economic and psychological warfare, with the Holocaust hoax being the best example of the latter.’

    It adds: ‘the Germans were completely justified in persecuting and expelling the Jews (which is all that was actually happening), just as we would be today. Hitler and the National Socialists freed Germany from the death grip of the Jews and gave it back to the German people.’

    The article calls Anne Frank a ‘bisexual degenerate’ whose famous diary is an ‘obvious fraud… laced with pornographic and sexually subversive passages’.”

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  25. Thoughtful says:

    Quite shocking to see todays media raising the cost of living rising the day before the local elections, it is blatant electioneering for Labour and the thicko Prime Minister we have is utterly clueless about what is going on not just in this country, but in the world.

    Johnson claims it’s going to get better – no Boris it’s going to get worse, much worse and although it might indeed get better some day it isn’t going to be within your time as Prime Minister.

    The media is concentrating on ridiculous heat and heat stories, and that Labour are proposing a windfall tax. Boris the useless incompetent offers nothing.

    It’s so blatant the media has chosen to run this story today, it’s nothing short of interference in an election, and quite possibly illegal.
    In Addition why do so many choose to run this story at the same time?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful
      The other offence the MSM commits is to give Labour an easy time – namely – the windfall tax on energy companies .

      That ‘remedy ‘ is largely a ‘one off ‘- energy costs are going to rise for the foreseeable future – unless putin is replaced by someone pro west and sane – so windfalls are short term for a long term problem – coupled with increasing food prices ….

      There is no state remedy for this – and the MSM won’t say that ….
      The chaotic and sloppy Johnson regime means that even announcements about increasing storage capacity for gas – or new power stations – are held up – the drive for energy security and independence should be an absolute national security effort – instead – it’s not done . The same applies to military spending and increasing the size of the Army navy and Air Force – right now ….

      We just haven’t got a functioning government or civil service .

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      • Scroblene says:

        GBNews had a similar take on the ‘Growlerbeer’ stuff yesterday!

        It’s all come far too late, and as expected is unheard of with the BBC, Grauniad and the other vegan rubbishy rags!

        Dan Wootton’s podcast covers it nicely!

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  26. tomo says:

    Right then …

    a race, with an obvious prize

    We get fracked gas before the Hermans get their LNG terminal working?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The Germans on the putin pay role won’t be rushing to end Russian oil / gas imports – whatever Helga in the ReichEU says …

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  27. tomo says:

    Pfizer document drop with 80,000 pages

    have the BBC commented?

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    • Guest Who says:

      The will rely on what they are told by… er… scientists… um… who say.

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  28. tomo says:

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    • MarkyMark says:

      PapalThrone.jpg

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      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        Are they watching Welby flagellating himself for the world’s sins?

        Crack! “Yeeah!”, crack! “yeeag!”, crack! “arrgh!!”

        “Oh, go on you naughty boy, you know you love it!”

        Sorry, wrong church, that’s the palace nextdoor.

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  29. Richard Pinder says:

    Watched Farage on GB News. The last ten minutes were blanked out and censored. Farage was talking to Emma-Jo Morris of the New York Post about the MSM censorship of Hunter Bidens Laptop. She was talking about a Ukrainian company called Burisma. Hunter Biden is earning over $50,000 a month (not) working for Burisma, and Hunter Biden received a $3 million payment from the widow of the Mayor of Moscow. But then it began to mention MSM censorship and the fact that what started out as a report about corruption by the President of the United States and his Son, ended up on 14th October 2020 as “corruption of an entire system (Blank-Censored) including the security state, including Big Tech, including the legacy media and including the Democratic Party” to protect the Biden family. The legacy media “do not want to go so far as to implicate Jo Biden or acknowledge that he —–(Blank- Censored for ten minutes)”. So GB News was off air for 10 minutes from 7.50pm to 8pm.

    Are the authorities afraid of us seeing the truth? Was the plug pulled by GCHQ, The Counter Disinformation Cell or the 77th Brigade in Britain, or was it the CIA, NSA or the Disinformation Governance Board in America?

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    • Flotsam says:

      I remember similar happening to the controversial Tony Benn (Anthony Wedgwood Benn) when the only broadcaster was the BBC.

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      • theisland says:

        The full interview on youtube here.
        Somebody who knows how should copy it before it disappears.
        The Hunter laptop piece starts at 3:25.

        Just a reminder of what Starmer said in the HoC:
        “May I welcome the victory of President-elect Biden and Vice-President-elect Harris—a new era of decency, integrity and compassion in the White House” (11 Nov 2020)
        “May I also welcome the inauguration of President Biden and Vice-President Harris? This is a victory for hope over hate, and a real moment for optimism in the US and around the world.” (20 January 2021)

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        • Fedup2 says:

          1660 views so far – bet it disappears by day end .
          The Biden laptop is an excellent example of the power of the MSM to suppress or corrupt stuff –
          Don’t forget to laugh the next time some fool spouts off about a ‘free press ‘…

          Mind you – that election was so fixed that full revelation about the Biden corruption would have had no effect – in fact the Obama crew would have added a few more stuffed ballot boxes to be sure …

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          • G says:

            Fed,

            “……the power of the MSM to suppress or corrupt stuff ”

            It is also supporting the assertion that public apathy is rife. The sheeple are easily manipulated. If you really wanted to know about a subject, these days, you could find out easily and within minutes by simple research.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      After reading your post I watched the interview on catch up and the black out was there. I have noticed a few times that the Mark Steyn show hasn’t been available on catch up. I had thought that it was probably due to the show being a technical dog’s breakfast and GBN not wanting its viewers to see the repeated mess ups. But now I wonder if , given Mark’s propensity for covering controversial topics, the GBN lawyers have vetoed repeats.
      If in either the Farage case or the possible Steyn case , the lawyers have stepped in , then GBN would best serve the interests of its viewers by making sure we knew that they had pulled the plug for legal reasons or had been censored by Ofcom.

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      • Bulldog says:

        Farage is on this evening so it will be interesting to hear what he has to say, my guess is it will be blamed on that standby excuse “technical problem”.

        This reminded me that a few weeks back, Tory M.P. Adam Holloway gave a robust defence of Bojo and partygate in an interview with Alastair Stewart on GB News. Thought I would post it here as he made some good points but when I eventually found it noticed it was shortened by about 3 minutes. Holloway was already chewing tacks even while waiting to put across his views on this ridiculous witch hunt and until he was abruptly terminated after just over 2 minutes in.

        Must have been the GB News editors that cut out the rest of the interview unless Ofcom complained and insisted the catchup version was censored. We deserve to know who makes the decisions when these things happen.

        Free speech still seems an unachievable goal in the wonderful world of media.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Bulldog – I’m sure a whole bank of lefties is giving GBNews extra attention today because of elections .

          . If they can find anything it will instantly be referred to the lefty Electoral Commission / OFCOM to give it a kicking ….

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    • tomo says:

      Biden Laptop

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  30. andyjsnape says:

    Elections 2022: Polls to open in elections across the country
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61322919

    Millions of people are expected to take part in elections across the UK, reports the bBC

    bBC seems keen

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    • taffman says:

      “Millions of people are expected to take part”
      Millions always take part? It’s nationwide. Perhaps Boris is banking on all the illegals landing at Dover will be voting for him?

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      • Foscari says:

        taffman- Up until the last moment the anarchist
        Marxist Londonistan programme on the BBC
        were telling their viewers that if there wasn’t
        a Socialist Workers party candidate to vote for
        they should vote labour . My local council Barnet in
        London , which is the largest populated borough
        in the capitol with over a population of 400,000
        will go Labour for the first time. Demographics
        has finally caught up here , as it will as sure as night
        follows day in most of the rest of the country in three
        or four generations. I don’t know if it says in the Quran
        ” Go forth and multiply” But it’s simples maths to
        suss out thar 4 times 4 times 4 times 4=256. As
        compared to 1 times2 times 1 times 2=4. Yes four
        generations should make it a fait accompli.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Foscari – welcome to the club – I’m in the people socialist republic of Waltham Forest – a corrupt one party state so bad that auditors don’t even try to sign off the accounts …

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC might be massaging the numbers big time, as they do.

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  31. Zephir says:

    Talking of conspiracies:

    “over a dozen food processing plants detroyed in the US in last few weeks………

    https://tuckercarlson.com/whats-going-on-with-all-these-food-processing-plant-disasters/

    “EXCLUSIVE: Food shortages magnified by string of destroyed food processing facilities
    Last Thursday, firefighters contended with a massive blaze at California’s Taylor Farms plant. That same day, an airplane crashed into Idaho’s Gem State Processing facility.”

    https://westernstandardonline.com/2022/04/exclusive-food-shortages-magnified-by-string-of-destroyed-food-processing-facilities/

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    • Thoughtful says:

      I think I posted this a few days ago with a smallholder commenting that there had been 18 destroyed year to date of the video. What was more troubling was the three destroyed by light aircraft crashing into them

      Very odd indeed.

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  32. theisland says:

    Previously mentioned by tomo

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    • Thoughtful says:

      This is the Blue Labour Tories and their online ‘harm’ bill, which is basically censorship and silencing of dissenting voices. It doesn’t matter how the Commieserveyourselves dress this up, it’s an extremely sinister attack on freedom.
      It’s made worse by the Commie pushing the bill Nadine Dorries has been asked on several occasions to define what ‘Harm’ is but has either been unable or refused to do so meaning that it is open to any interpretation a malevolent government wants to put on it.

      Also don’t forget this is more EU legislation being passed into UK law by a party which lied about Brexit and cannot be trusted with democracy.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Harm” means psychological harm amounting to at least serious distress.

      Click to access 210285.pdf

      Online Safety Bill
      EXPLANATORY NOTES
      Explanatory notes to the Bill, prepared by the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and
      Sport, are published separately as Bill 285-EN.
      EUROPEAN CONVENTION ON HUMAN RIGHTS
      Secretary Nadine Dorries has made the following statement under section 19(1)(a) of the
      Human Rights Act 1998:
      In my view the provisions of the Online Safety Bill are compatible with the Convention rights.

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  33. andyjsnape says:

    bBC reports.. “The European Union plans to ban all purchases of Russian oil by the end of the year.

    But EU members Hungary and Slovakia will be able to continue buying Russian crude oil until the end of 2023”

    Is it the end of the year, or end of next year!

       7 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Andy – heard 2026 being mentioned . They’ll be doing good business selling it onto the krauts …

         8 likes

  34. Fedup2 says:

    BBC watch

    An election day – so in theory if we are to see an unbiased apolitical BBC – this day is it .
    But it cant help itself – it reports on so called ‘ global warming ‘ as though this isnt a lefty scheme to control and tax the population and use project fear for the same period .
    Increasing living costs continues to be reported and the BBC will struggle after noon when the interest rate increase is announced ….

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  35. Guest Who says:

    Looks like Springster ditched the BF now she’s a star.

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  36. Fedup2 says:

    Just watched the latest Tucker Carlson piece concerning the abortion judgement . He encourages people to actually read it ( 92 pages ) .
    He claims that the judgement isn’t about abortion . It is about local democracy – that states should decide on abortion law – not the federal government ( justices ) ….

    Did you know that ? I didn’t – where is the BBC on this ? Is it avoiding the facts in order to mobilise the sisters ?

    Carlson also describes the left response . Rage – and describes the democrat party as ‘weak men and angry women ‘ which – I thought – applies equally to the Labour Party here ….
    I’m against killing unborn babies – but I also believe that it is better for state elected politicians to rule on it than a few judges ….
    Here of course the abortion industry would moan about job losses if anyone tried to ban it .

       18 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      This is a key issue now.

      Issues are complex. Few have the skills or time to fully investigate and assess them.

      That’s why, in politics, you voted for a proxy in the form of a local councillor or MP who explained best in hustings.

      Maybe informed by a trusted, impartial spread of media on the issues and where power may stray in accuracy of claim or account.

      Now, what have we got?

      Rayner’s Growler making out the potholes are going to be solved by a curry merchant, with Brando coyly nudging nudging the faithful to ‘go out and vote’ whilst the BBC tells you ‘what you need to know’.

      There’s no ballot centre anywhere near here, yet folk are outside wondering where to go to get Boris out whilst moaning about the council blowing millions on net zero.

      It’s a London festival of false flag promises to somehow propel Labour into office at the next GE on the back of issues nothing to do with folk standing today.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      If you go back a couple of pages you will find I posted about this 3rd May 8:36

      There were good reasons why abortion was made legal in Britain at the time it was, however as in all things the people offering it always seek to push their boundaries ever wider, and being weak, the politicians failed to put in any safeguards to dismiss anyone attempting to do this.

      Abortion is like prostitution, it’s not something society wants or approves of, but it’s something that is going to happen whether it’s legal or it isn’t. Given the potential harm to women from back street abortionists it was considered preferable to legalise it, but it was only supposed to be in extremis, not something mainstream.

         10 likes

    • Sluff says:

      My understanding is that the American Constitution defines the specific powers which are dealt with at Federal level – article 1 section 8.
      Anything else, anything not listed, is reserved as a responsibility for the individual States. (10 th amendment). The Supreme Court’s main responsibility as I understand it is to uphold the constitution, to decide on interpretations of Federal level laws as above only, and to judge on other specific situations, article 3 section 2.

      Thus a challenge to Roe v Wade can be regarded as an interpretation of where the power should lie under the Constitution, irrespective of any personal views on the matter in question. Though of course the distinction is likely to be blurred according to where one stands on the issue.

         4 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Sluff – that’s the point I make – the new decision isn’t about the rights or wrongs of killing babies / abortion – it’s about the States right to choose the rules…

        All those kidults rioting in California and god forsaken cities will still be able to legally kill the unwanted unborn as their state government will legislate for it …
        ..others won’t …
        And I’m sure the pro choice mob will crowdfund ladies who need to travel across state lines to do the deed …

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  37. Deborah says:

    Last night on GBNews any mention of a local candidate and Dan Wooton made the panel read out the list of all the candidates because otherwise they may have been reported to Ofcom for political bias.

    This morning Global on Classic FM led on the story that the Bank Of England MIGHT raise interest rates. Whether the BofE does or doesn’t, at this moment in time we don’t know. Reporting something that MIGHT happen is political.

    I might add that reporting Shell’s profits this morning on Classic FM was also political. They haven’t in the past few years reported BP’s losses on the half hour headlines. (Shell may have had losses too but if they were reported I didn’t take it in). But with Labour wanting a windfall tax, without the knowledge that BP made a £10 billion loss recently, the suggestion seems reasonable.

       13 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Deborah,
      Completely agree. The majority of the so called news on the MSM is leftist propaganda, sometimes blatant, sometimes insidiously subtle. Not much can be done about private companies like Global, but the Tories allow the little Satan , Ch4 , and the arch Satan, the BBC to propagandise across all their output and have done for decades. The Tories must have a death wish

         16 likes

    • Sluff says:

      If there is to be a windfall tax on BP, does that mean the taxpayer will in return have to refund them for the £19 bn estimated loss they will accrue from exiting I.e. writing off their Russian interests?
      Perhaps Labour would like to tell us if the policy is now to socialise the gains and privatise the losses of companies.
      That will really encourage companies to seek to grow and create jobs and prosperity. Not.

         9 likes

  38. andyjsnape says:

    Shell profits nearly triple as oil prices surge
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61330552

    bBC banging on about trying to get a windfall tax, as if the bbc actually cares about joe public

       14 likes

    • Sluff says:

      The BBC care deeply about entitlement and public funding of corporations.

         1 likes

  39. Fedup2 says:

    An unusually intelligent interview with Jim o Neil – a sensible economist . Two points – that interest rates should be 2% above where they are ( ouch ) and that the inflation number used across the economy doesn’t work any more .

    Real every day inflation is a lot higher than the treasury says – but politics gets in the way of the truth ..

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  40. Charlie Farley says:

    Fedup2
    Not forgetting the BBC get in the way of truth and create their version of it !

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  41. AsISeeIt says:

    The exception that proves the rule edition

    We recall that brief period prior to the EU Referendum when our national broadcaster put itself into political purdah.

    For years prior to the vote the BBC narrative was unerringly pro-Brussels – never adequately reflecting the broad range of UK public opinion, which retained a significant sceptical outlook. Then post hoc came the wall-to-wall crying and whingeing over the Leave result. BBC pro-EU sentiment was unleashed and allowed to flourish; indeed its blatant expression across the airwaves collaborated with and enabled those forces which sought to reverse the decision.

    And so it was that that momentary interim of calm factual balance – bookended and contrasted with relentless bias, exposed the truth for many for the first time and confirmed the suspicions of others, particularly we happy band hereabouts whose priors were confirmed in spades.

    The BBC online press review this morning dare not publish the frontpages of the majority of our national press titles. Gone are the Guardian, the Mirror, Express and Mail. Missing in action are both the Times and the ‘i’. And those happy few that pass muster have several blacked-out redactions – suggesting articles lurking there too blatantly party political to pass muster on this vaguely special day. As if for once – and once only – the population were uniquely open to undue persuasion.

    Do they really think that were we to catch a glimpse of a Keir Starmer Beergate last call in the Mail or hear an echo in the Guardian of Boris’s Partygate – on this one special day – we might blush like some Edwardian gent presented with sight of a well-turned female ankle?

    One is reminded of the movie Sleuth [1972], a cross-generational class-conscious stageplay-like two-hander featuring fine performances from the old world Sir Lawrence Olivier and the upstart Michael Caine.

    The Cole Porter ditty Anything Goes is sadly emblematic of Olivier’s character’s lost world:

    In olden days a glimpse of stocking
    Was looked on as something shocking,
    But now, God knows, Anything Goes.

    Good authors too who once knew better words,
    Now only use four letter words
    Writing prose, Anything Goes
    .”

    There are many fine lines in the script – one of Caine’s best repostes complains:

    We are from different worlds, you and me, Andrew. In mine, there was no time for bright fancies and happy inventions, no stopping for tea. The only game we played was to survive, or go to the wall. If you didn’t win, you just didn’t finish. Loser, lose all. You probably don’t understand that.

    The BBC’s occasional 24 hour embargo on politics – like so many an anachronism of the British – like the House of Lords, the Monarchy, or downhill Cheese-Rolling – if it didn’t already exist no one with an ounce of nouce would see the sense or utility in inventing it.

    Let’s see what survives the cut…

    The Sun’s headline bears witness to that relentless institutional culture war – you know, the one they assure us doesn’t exist – these days some say if an institution isn’t explicitly conservative it will eventually lean left. We say that’s a lie – just look at the Conservative party – that has the word conservative in its name but still leans left.

    P.C. Lions on a shirt. F.A. flakes to axe England footie anthem… FA bosses fear it might offend other nations‘ – how so?

    FA chiefs fear the song is viewed as “arrogant” by other nations‘ – perhaps the FA should advise Mr Southgate to coach our boys not to win a match against any foreigners – just in case they think the worse of us. Oh, wait a minute… he already did that: ‘England’s Penalty Strategy Backfires in Euro 2020 Final Heartbreak… It all ended in a familiar consoling embrace for Gareth Southgate. Wrapping his arms around Bukayo Saka, the England coach felt the teenager’s anguish‘ (Sports Illustrated)

    There was no such shrinking violet imposed-from-above modesty from the Boca Juniors graduates, the boys in pale blue: ‘The hand of wad… Maradona’s legendary world cup shirt sells for £7m‘ (freebie Metro)

    From the hand of God helping them to win to our God forbid we win.

    All was once fair in love, sport and war…

    Falklands vets call for Exocet answers‘ (Telegraph)

    One has to assume it was the report: ‘Lord Frost frozen out of by-election to replace ‘porn MP’ Neil Parish… Path for former Brexit minister’s return to politics blocked as local Tory association seeks home-grown candidate in Tiverton and Honiton‘ (Telegraph) – perhaps that was considered too racy for the BBC to show without redaction.

    Likewise one guesses it was the editor’s pick in the FT: ‘Boris Johnson braced for Lib Dem assault on Tory “blue wall”‘ which was scrubbed out by the BBC’s blue pencil.

    Along with: ‘Boris Johnson bins plan to let workers keep tips‘ – the pink financial paper, smug in its liberality, keen to highlight the Tory PM’s stinginess.

       8 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – I can imagine an examination of the fossil record in a few million years – very will be a pencil thin band called the ‘offenceocene period …..

         6 likes

  42. Guest Who says:

    All the supposedly non advocacy tweets by media types is interesting.

    They usually hide behind ‘go out and vote and you know who I mean’.

    Then the replies confirm how it works.

    So many cheerfully confirming their postal votes went in ages ago.

    Hence at the height of the broadcast media campaign on cake, but too late for any alternative revelations on beer.

    Convenient.

    With valid exceptions, no postal voting should be permitted as it is a newer form of democracy rigging, pure and simple.

       11 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      How it works.

      Labour, Mirror… BBC. Yay, Pippa and Kev.

      I doubt they eat cheap anything.

         10 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        What was Ms. Rayner’s plonk of choice?

        I know Kev is more a champagne guy, like a good socialist.

           8 likes

      • MarkyMark says:

        George Eustice

        28 November 2012, payment of £1,500 for 2 columns in September 2012 and 3 columns in October 2012. Hours: 10 hrs in total. (Registered 3 December 2012)

        https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=24933

        10 HOURS? WHEN DOES HE GET THIS TIME?

        ……………

        31/03/2021 Staffing Total Staffing budget payroll costs for the 2020-21 year
        Payroll (Total Staffing budget payroll costs for the 2020-21 year) £160,919.00
        24/07/2020 Office Costs Policy Research Unit (Conservative)
        Pooled Staffing Services (Policy Research Unit (Conservative)) £3,047.00
        23/04/2021 Office Costs Policy Research Unit (Conservative)
        Pooled Staffing Services (Policy Research Unit (Conservative)) £2,988.00

        https://www.mpsexpenses.info/?#!/mp/481

        ….

        George Eustice gets his BBC TV License fee – you pay for it ha ha ha
        Camborne and Redruth
        6 May 2010 – Present

        16/12/2020 Office Costs TV licence
        TV licence £157.50

        https://www.mpsexpenses.info/?#!/mp/481

           0 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        It’s all on expenses . Nice point about whether campaign rules were broken re the Starmer korma

           4 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Blatant Political Corruption Rampant In Tower Hamlets As Biggs Copies Rahman
      September 21, 2021 Mark Baynes
      “Corruption, as it is defined by the World Bank, is a form of dishonesty or a criminal offence which is undertaken by a person or an organisation which is entrusted with a position of authority, in order to acquire illicit benefits or abuse power for one’s private gain.”
      Source: Wikipedia

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  43. MarkyMark says:

    MP Tractor Porn and Cakes in an office ….

    08.31.20-WAB-image_v4_bevel.jpg?itok=dvywflud

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  44. Guest Who says:

    Is there one of those national maps of constituencies actually voting today anywhere, and voter numbers attached?

    Ah…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60695244

    Look where nothing is happening.

       2 likes

    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      This is the turn of the political cycle where Labour usually do well (as Guest says, look at the geography), it’s also mid-term for a weak, dithering ‘Tory’ PM, with a (frankly) incompetent cabinet, and we’ve just come out of two years of economy wrecking lockdown, and there is a fuel crisis, and there is a war on (don’t you know?), and Brexit… and… and… oh, and birds are making nests earlier FACT, so global warming is real FACT, and it’s all down to us FACT… and… and… sorry, stuck in a loop.

      Boris is in for a bashing, I’ll eat my hat if not, to quote Ashley Pantsdown.

      Good, frankly, Boza deserves a good kicking in my opinion… what it means for the next GE, who knows?

      Maybe Thoughtful is right and we ought to pay MPs more… it’s a crap job, but if we paid enough maybe some halfway decent individuals could be persuaded to take it on?

         5 likes

      • Sluff says:

        The requirements to be an MP vary depending on the person. For some £80k a year plus expenses is beyond their wildest dreams (and value in the Labour market). For others it is a huge step back (so why do it ???).

        You might become an MP to influence policy and try and change the world for your version of better, but then you have to look interested when you cut the ribbon at the new constituency rubbish dump or appear caring and earnest when attending to Mr. Patel’s complaints about leaky pipes that the council won’t mend.

        It’s all a bit weird.

           4 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          Sluff, yet the MPs often say they love the constituency work.

             2 likes

      • G says:

        I had the debate locally over elections. Local elections I’ll vote in but National? Never ever again. Can’t find a better analogy than the hackneyed, I’ll not be a, “Turkey voting for Christmas”. My own demise in effect. It’s all been a downward trend for decades overall and in particular, ‘halting immigration’, a proper Brexit and foreigners continually taking my place in the queue to see a medical specialist. No, I will be spoiling my ballot from now on because I don’t agree with the current principle of voting, democracy, worthless sales lies (manifesto’s) and lying cheating politico’s.

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  45. MarkyMark says:

    George Eustice gets his BBC TV License fee – you pay for it ha ha ha
    Camborne and Redruth
    6 May 2010 – Present

    16/12/2020 Office Costs TV licence
    TV licence £157.50

    https://www.mpsexpenses.info/?#!/mp/481

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  46. MarkyMark says:

    EGROvpsVUAAiAQW.jpg

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  47. BigBrotherCorporation says:

    Not the BBC (not yet anyway), but thought it might be of interest to some here that after over 25 long, long years things seem to be finally turning re: the academic inflatable cash cow.

    Just a personal observation, nothing more, but as my son sits his GCSEs and kids and parents fret about ‘what next?’, I’m hearing an incredible number of kids (boys, mostly to be fair) are NOT staying on for A-levels, and then heading off to Uni, and are signing up to go to FE college to do some ‘technical’ ‘trade’ instead. I’m being told that there is now a shortage of places on some of these courses locally, businesses offering apprenticeships are overrun, and the local schools, and FE colleges are in a state of shock.

    I have recently had a spate of emails from the school saying they’re NOT planning on running a whole host of A-levels due to a lack of applicants, and sixth form numbers are going to be way down next year (someone mentioned around 50% less students).

    What I’m hearing from the lads, and their parents is a very definite (and with support from parents): Electrician, Plumber, Carpenter, Mechanical Engineer(Car Mechanics), Agricultural Engineer, Stone Mason, Car Sprayer, Kitchen Fitter, IT Technician etc… Girls, and their parents seem a little more lost and uncertain, but there are some doing Hair and Beauty and that sort of thing on apprenticeships, or with the college.

    Not heard anything in the news about it yet, maybe it’s just a local thing, but I’m not so sure?

       10 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Big – that’s great news – the snobbish assumption that kids will be better served by ‘getting a degree ‘ is just outdated …

      A skill from which money can be made is much more useful – e specially if it is ‘portable ‘… I can’t imagine the day when this AI revolution ( yawn) is really going to unblock the sink or install a new plug socket …
      And I really need a good east London plumber …

         12 likes

      • G says:

        As I recall, the old HNC/HND was = to a degree and in particular the HND. Cut out all the snobbishness of, “My son/daughter has a degree”

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  48. BigBrotherCorporation says:

    Strange coincidences are common on the BBC.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdxxnzy00no
    Police appeal after 55 sheep stolen on Lewis

    https://insidesaudi.com/why-do-muslims-slaughter-sheep-on-the-day-of-eid-al-adha/

       8 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Happy Eid?

         1 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Big – by the way – I comment as one who has something in common with a 1970s coloured singing trio – 3 degrees …

         2 likes

      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        I agree Fed, it is good news. and long overdue.

        As it happens, I’ve also got 3 degrees (BEng and a couple of ‘highers’), for the much good they’ve ever done me since I left academe, which is the point really, isn’t it?

        My son does want to do A-levels and a degree, and although I have mixed feelings about that, he is extremely academic (usually the brightest boy in his year when it comes to awards day, in fact only boy among 20 or so ‘top’ students), and he is predicted to be getting top marks, straight 8/9s in his GCSEs – that’s A*** in old money, or before that A*, or before that A, or before that, probably a C+.

        Not saying that to brag (although I am very proud of him, as I would be regardless), but to explain why I don’t really feel I can put him off doing a degree… and he does want to do something sensible at a sensible Uni (he’s obsessed with AI, in both engineering and software systems, interestingly enough!).

        My daughter (younger) wants to be a nurse/vet’s nurse, and would make an excellent one of either, I’m sure, naturally caring, compassionate, and kind, very smart and ‘aware’, but not so academic, just not interested in that sort of thing. She’s one of many who’d happily study nursing P/T as an apprenticeship over several years (whilst getting paid), like her grandmother. She’s not interested in being a ‘doctor’, or a ‘brain surgeon’ (which is what the school think she ought to be aiming for!)

        One takes after their mother, one after the father, the apple rarely falls far from the tree, as they say.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Big – by the sound of it your children are luckier than they know in getting ‘guidance ‘.

          I sort of regret I didn’t have much advice / guidance and didn’t go straight to university but studied part time years later after getting a ‘proper ‘ series of jobs / vocations …

          I realise that I’m moaning about my parents giving me too much freedom ! – and not BBC related … anyone can always complain to the moderator ….

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          • BigBrotherCorporation says:

            Fed, as a parent I don’t think it’s possible to ever get it right, but we usually try our best (well, most do anyway).

            My father was an academic from a working-class family, he was first in his family to ever go to uni, and ended up going to a ‘working man’s uni’ (on a very generous grant), and working as an FE college lecturer, teaching working class lads to achieve technical HNC/HND qualifications that would get them decent jobs. Something he was passionate about, but never entirely satisfied with – actually, it was some of his ‘woke’ colleagues who drove him out in the end (even back then!).

            As such I think he always felt I could (and should) ‘go further’ than he did, it’s only in recent years we’ve both come to terms with what that particular notion has meant for our relationship.

            I’d love my son to do something he really enjoys that’s practical and not academic, a trade he could set himself up in, he once took a real interest in horticulture, but (I suspect like your parents) I’ve come to the conclusion he needs to be his own man and find his own path… and if that happens to be academia, it will be his choice.

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Big
              After spending a bit of time in NZ / Aus – I got the
              Inclination to go there permanently a couple of decades ago .
              If I had a ‘trade ‘at the time I’d have been welcomed wit open arms – but it wasn’t to be …. If I was replacing a career I would have factored that it …

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  49. MarkyMark says:

    Ilyich Iron and Steel Works of Mariupol

    Ilyich Iron and Steel Works of Mariupol is an integrated steel company. Sinter plant of Ilyich Iron and Steel Works of Mariupol is the largest in Europe. The company sells part of agglomerate to Azovstal Iron and Steel Works. Its main products are carbon flat products, low-alloyed and alloyed steels for various purposes. Heavy plates, produced by Ilyich Iron and Steel Works of Mariupol, are used in pipe production and shipbuilding; cold-rolled and galvanized plates — in cold forging and profiled sheeting production. The company also produces welded pipes for construction. Ilyich Iron and Steel Works of Mariupol is the largest European producer of cold-rolled and galvanized plates. Ilyich Iron and Steel Works of Mariupol leases the property complex of state-run Ukrmekhanobr to produce sinter ore. The company is part of Metinvest Holding.

    Location:
    Mariupol, Donetsk oblast, Ukraine
    Shareholders:
    Metinvest Holding
    Markets:
    United States, Italy, Poland, Turkey
    Products:
    Pig iron, heavy and hot-rolled sheet products

    https://gmk.center/en/manufacturer/ilyich-iron-and-steel-works-of-mariupol/

       1 likes

  50. Zephir says:

    Replacment for an ailing Joe, or new chair of OFCOM ?

       2 likes