280 Responses to Weekend 25th November 2023

  1. taffman says:

    Over a hundred years ago we had a General known as “Chinese Gordon”, now we have a “Chinese Cameron”.
    When the remains of Bo Jo’s red wall finds out who is back in the cabinet, the final blocks of that wall will collapse and turn to dust.

    “Lord Cameron says UK must engage with China”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67517955

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Lord Cameron says UK must engage with China”
      – ban mosques?
      – ban beards?
      – re-education camps?
      – one party no democracy?

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  2. Zephir says:

    Cease fire here as well ?

    Thought not:

    “Palestinians killed by firing squad ‘hung upside down’ from pylon after ‘traitor’ chants
    Violence has ramped up in the West Bank in the wake of the war between Israel and Hamas that began on October 7.

    Two Palestinians were brutally executed in the West Bank after being accused of collaborating with Israel, it has been claimed.

    Gruesome unverified pictures circulating on X, formerly Twitter, show the bodies of two dead men hung on an electricity pole, while other clips show a mob abusing the bodies.

    While cheering at their deaths, some in the crowd shouted “traitors”, The Times of Israel reported.”

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1838976/palestinian-killed-west-bank-hamas-israel-war

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    • JohnC says:

      Another lie-by-omission to add to the BBC tally.

      They are coming thick and fast for Hamas.

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  3. Guest Who says:

    I confess; I laughed.

    https://x.com/BBCYoungReport/status/1728447219676701020?s=20
    What does it take to be a writer of a hit comedy programme?
    @ItsAMilligan who writes #ManLikeMobeen scripts for
    @bbcthree has got some top scriptwriting and#MediaCareers tips.

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    • Zephir says:

      My parents laughed when I said I wanted to be a bbc comedy writer.

      Well, they’re not laughing now

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  4. Guest Who says:

    Rather sweet this guy uses ‘The BBC admits..’

    https://x.com/tparsi/status/1728140269445394841?s=20
    The BBC admits what many of us have been saying for some time: The damage Israel’s war is inflicting on the US/EU’s global standing due to their refusal to pressure Israel to stop the carnage will reach a point in which the West will be forced – out of pure self-interest – to stop Israel.
    But apparently, not enough Palestinian children have died yet for this to happen.

    The BBC acts as this PR droid’s PR backup.

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  5. Sluff says:

    BBC 1 London news at 1740.
    A gay bar in central London is closing.

    Yes, really.
    It’s either an extremely quiet News day, or the BBC have an agenda. No prizes for working out which.

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  6. Sluff says:

    Eight contestants on BBC 1 celebrity weakest link.
    So obviously, one is a Drag Artist.
    Unbelievable.

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  7. Scroblene says:

    Is it true that Laura’s going to be one of Linker’s mates when she becomes a ‘director’ of his independent company?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67530919

    Sources say that they’ve been meeting in a cafe off the Balls Pond Road recently, with lots of files, a small laptop, and a few photographs of some arabs chucking sand everywhere!

    I’m reliably informed that Linker has asked her – many times – to show him her ‘credentials’, but as he must have known, these precious items aren’t for the general public to gloat over!

    A Spokesdalek for the BBC declined to comment, as the smoked salmon souffle was just about to overflow into the Bollinger…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Scrobie, Linker who he or she?

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      • Scroblene says:

        Uppers, he’s a mis-spelt sometime fooboller who now gets paid 1.35mill for being a prat on TV!

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Spokesdalek ha! ha! ha! Great chuckle for a Saturday night (helped along with a brandy and coke).

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      • Scroblene says:

        Thanks Brissles!

        I may even use it again, as it seems to sum up my interpretation of a dreary, dull intonation, much loved by Beeboid cubiclers who aren’t very bright, but like to think they are!

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  8. Guest Who says:

    If there is a firefight… I opt to head the other way, Abs.

    https://x.com/abbymartin/status/1728300979504996474?s=61
    An investigation by the French organization Reporters Without Borders into the killing in October of a Reuters cameraman, Issam Abdallah, concluded that Abdallah and his co-workers, several of whom were injured, were “explicitly targeted.”

    WaPo is a bbc tni partner? Funny they are being challenged by whom. I always wondered who tried to take JezBo’s head off with a shotgun.

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    • JohnC says:

      With ‘friends’ like JezBo, Israel doesn’t need enemies. If I were Israeli, I would consider the BBC and any other left-wing media outfit (which to be fair is about 90% of them) as traitors to their journalistic ethics and are actually full-on left-wing activists. Especially AP and reuters.

      They are aiding and abetting their enemy. I might be able to understand that if their enemy had right on their side – but they are Islamic terrorists FFS.

      All of this just makes me despise the Left even more. They are nasty people full of hate. Luckily for them, their lack of ethics allows them to be stupendous hypocrites and liars to hide it.

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  9. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #2 – is that a 100 Shortlist for stooopide?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-67385873 This lass, Huda Kattan, is cutting her nose off to spite her face, which to this unqualified eye appears to be botoxed to the hilt, and claiming that where she makes her money from – the ‘beauty industry’ – is sexist and ‘objectifies’ women.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “I think back sometimes to that little Middle Eastern brown girl in Tennessee – there’s still a lot of them out there in the world – and maybe seeing someone like me, they can feel a little bit represented.”

      …..

      As of April 2022, there were about 5 billion global Internet users, constituting 63% of the world population. The Han Chinese are the world’s largest single ethnic group, constituting over 19% of the global population in 2011.

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  10. Charlie Farley says:

    BBC Situation Normal…10 Seconds of Dr WHO wheelchair….OFF SWITCH ….Time for a Single Malt and calm down !

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Charlie
      I was hoping for a review of ‘dr who’ particulary approved messages planted in the script …. The last time I saw a bit of the show was maybe 4 doctors ago – the girl one seemed scatty to me …

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        Fedup2 ,
        It will take a brave soul to suffer watching a full episode , mind you that goes for all the Biased BBC output these days 😀

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    • harry142857 says:

      I was channel hopping between darts and snooker, went to Dr Who.
      The first (and last) three words I heard were “Binary, non binary”
      That feted homosexual writer might be good, but has to shoehorn his obsession about sexuality into everything he writes. I thought this was meant to be a show suitable for children.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        H
        Maybe they should put one of those tedious pre programme notices on about ‘may offend some people and displays woke lefty view prevalent at the time ‘….

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  11. Flotsam says:

    History. Most people don’t realise how important history is, it’s how we got here and why things are as they are. It seems to me that many recent Govrenments have lost sight of Britain’s history. The BBC has Zero respect for British history. Tony Bliar hadn’t the slightest regards for our history, hence all sorts of badly thought out measures by his Government in his quest to change Britain into an authoritarian Socialist State.
    Rishi Sunak isn’t British and cannot understand British history and culture.
    What we have now is extreme, woke left wingers asking for reparations for slavery. Stupid.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Reparations for slavery? Excellent idea. English people in the West Country were regularly captured and enslaved by Corsair pirates from the Barbary Coast, so presumably we’ll be asking the Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians and Libyans to cough up for what they did to us. The Vikings enslaved hundreds of thousands of Britons, transporting them via a slave colony created for the purpose in Ireland (known as Dublin these days). So, cheques in the post from Sweden, Norway and Denmark any day soon? How far back can we claim? The brutal Roman conquerors took vast numbers of our ancestors – when will Italy be compensating us for this outrage?

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      • Thoughtful says:

        One day perhaps we will see the blacks asking for reparations from those who can afford it – the Middle Eastern Muslims who took far more into slavery than white privateers did.
        But that’s also a point, it wasn’t the “British” or the Americans,it was private traders who undertook the trade, and because there wasn’t an internet and instant communication the government wasn’t aware of what was happening half way around the world.

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        • MarkyMark says:

          The Barbary pirates, Barbary corsairs, or Ottoman corsairs[1] were mainly Muslim pirates and privateers who operated from the Barbary states. This area was known in Europe as the Barbary Coast, in reference to the Berbers.[2] The main purpose of their attacks was to capture slaves for the Barbary slave trade. Slaves in Barbary could be of many ethnicities, and of many different religions, such as Christian, Jewish, or Muslim.[3] Their predation extended throughout the Mediterranean, south along West Africa’s Atlantic seaboard and into the North Atlantic as far north as Iceland, but they primarily operated in the western Mediterranean. In addition to seizing merchant ships, they engaged in razzias, raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, but also in the British Isles,[3] the Netherlands, and Iceland.[4]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates

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          • digg says:

            The British Isles have been historically mainly populated by descendants of Anglo Saxons, Celts, Normans and some peoples from such places as Norway and Sweden all of whom were sailors.

            This is because these peoples were in the area and could move around relatively easily.

            Progressive cunt-like academics only want to challenge this absolute truth to underscore their mis-guided attempts to make the World grey and uniform and to turn themselves into sooth-seers for some non-existent flight of fancy where their word is gospel.

            African peoples were peasants and primaries with no technology, boats, shit all so would never have made inroads to Europe in a thousand years.

            End of story.

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            • Flotsam says:

              There is a theory that people who moved to the more Northerly latitudes with proper seasons developed better organisational skills. The changes in weather over the year meant that different foods were only available at certain times which required technological and planning skills to survive. Contrast that with peoples living in the tropics where the same food is available all year.
              An interesting issue with the theory is explaining how the ancient Egyptian civilisation prospered. The Nile was a seasonal River. A great Deal of Egypt’s culture and technology centred around the Nile flood and providing Irrigation and growing around it. Interesting the decline of Egypt as a great civilisation seems to have been caused by climate change. You see, they should have stopped driving around in their 4×4’s

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            • kingkp says:

              Ha ha, this is hilarious! Of course, the Anglo-Saxons built the fcking Pyramids, right? Jesus Christ you people are deluded.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Flotsam:

      “Rishi Sunak isn’t British and cannot understand British history and culture.”

      Wrong! Rishi Sunak has a British passport (though his non dom wife does not). This makes him as British as any person whose ancestors lived here since before 1066. Official.

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  12. Zephir says:

    “Trump seeks ‘vindication’ in UK courts over ex-spy’s dossier on alleged Russian sex bribes.

    Donald Trump’s lawyer says he wants to give evidence in the British courts as he sues over the “Steele Dossier” that alleged he bribed officials and took part in sex parties in Russia.

    The former president’s lawyers told the High Court he is seeking “vindication” for the false allegations from 2017.

    They claim the document breaches UK data protection laws.

    Mr Steele’s company, Orbis Business Intelligence, says it did not make the document public.

    Warning: This article contains graphic language.

    The case stems from 2016, when a US political consultancy asked Mr Steele’s company to produce a report into potential Russian interference in that year’s US general election.

    The project was reportedly paid for by Hillary Clinton’s Democrats and other political opponents of Mr Trump.

    Mr Steele, the former head of MI6’s Russia desk, later sent his findings to the FBI, a British national security officer and an aide to a senior US senator. ”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67123583

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  13. Zephir says:

    This person makes an excellent point:

    “The response that I have been waiting for, with ever-diminishing hope, is protests from the many Muslims who live in the UK and are always complaining that they should not be tarred with the Islamic terrorism brush.

    So why are they not out on the streets in the UK waving banners saying “We deplore the atrocities committed by Hamas”?
    If they’re sitting quietly at home, my only conclusion can be that they’re quite happy with what Hamas did in Israel on October 7th.”

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  14. atlas_shrugged says:

    Dr. Jeffrey Sachs Says COVID About ‘Massive Government Lying,’ Quits Democrats

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/dr-jeffrey-sachs-covid-19-democrats/2023/11/24/id/1143515/

    More news that will not be published on the lying bBC

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  15. atlas_shrugged says:

    Bit more about Dr Jeffrey Sachs:

    BBC Reith Lecturer in 2007
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/reith2007/lecturer.shtml

    BBC bias EXPOSED live on air by Jeffrey Sachs

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  16. Docmarooned says:

    Her I mean!

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  17. tomo says:

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    • Guest Who says:

      Being gay should be enough for a foot in the door, euphemistically speaking, but Leo could be gunning for Head of BBC News.

      Especially given he has also restricted replies to the bubble.

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  20. JohnC says:

    Ukraine war: Fierce row erupts over 2024 election
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67440357

    ‘The discussion about Ukrainian elections is partly being pushed by US politicians…’

    ‘She argues that some hard-right Republicans are using the issue to justify their demand to block military aid to Ukraine.’

    ‘”it doesn’t mean that the far-right wing of this party will not use this topic against Ukraine next year’

    So now BBC reports are throwing ‘hard-right’ and ‘far-right’ at anybody they don’t like. It’s just ridiculous. It’s now being used regularly against democratically elected politicians willy nilly.

    If normal politicians are now hard-right, what will they call the REAL hard-right ?. There is nowhere to go : they have saturated the term and made it meaningless.

    Of course we never see people described as ‘hard-Left’ or ‘far-Left’. That’s because it’s ‘normal Left’ in the BBC offices. They have become immersed in ‘groupthink’ and have completely lost the plot.

    It all looks to me like a certain set don’t want Zelensky removed. He’s been bought and paid for and will follow whatever instructions the USA give him. And I suspect there are plenty of others in key positions getting some of that action to stay on-side.

    Perhaps ‘Panorama’ could do a documentary about how much wealth he has managed to stash outside his country. Would be a welcome change from the left-wing activist drivel they normally churn out.

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    • tomo says:

      Perhaps ‘Panorama’ could do a documentary about how much wealth he has managed to stash outside his country. Would be a welcome change from the left-wing activist drivel they normally churn out.

      Do the BBC still have a team of “advisers” in Ukraine? – or have they slunk over into a neighbouring country to avoid being droned?

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  21. JohnC says:

    West Bank crowds celebrate as bus carries freed Palestinian prisoners
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-67534946

    What a lovely story. They are so happy.

    Until you look a little closer.

    Apart from an official on the bus, there is not a single woman to be seen. It’s all crowds of fanatical young men waving Hamas flags.

    Amazing how the BBC can turn a blind eye when it suits.

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    • Guest Who says:

      https://x.com/buttonslives/status/1728206681547629040?
      VICE News Reporter: “Where do you think women in abusive relationships should go for help?”
      Taliban: “There is no abuse against women. These are only accusations.”
      Also, women cannot assume positions of authority because “women have lesser brains.”

      Seems time for another Panodrama ‘investigation’ aided by Springster in her cubicle.

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      • atlas_shrugged says:

        Guest

        About the interesting view of the Taliban about abuse against women in Afganistan.

        I noticed an equally interesting view about women in Russia. This is 3:56 into this video published by Warthog defence:

        “Mankind made a huge mistake when women received an education” etc etc

        Disclaimer: I have no way to check if this is translating into official Russia policy. It seems like they have been watching The Handmaids Tale

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  22. JohnC says:

    I noticed the huge advertising campaign for Dr Who has been dropped like a stone.

    So I checked why that might be. From reviews, the only thing I learned is leftist reviewers being delighted about how outraged GB news viewers would be by the wokeness.

    So I checked IMDB. Only 2 reviews : 3 out of 10 and 4 out of 10.

    ‘I want to be entertained – I want a bit of escapism – I want interesting sci-fi stories…. Instead, I get absolutely nothing but current day politics, nothing but ‘normalization’ shoved in my face… I can’t stand it.’

    ‘It reminded me of a cross between an episode of Eastenders and.the movie Gremlins from 1984 (I never could have guessed what was going to happen) – with a few Special Defects thrown in. Once again, (as we’ve seen many times before), there was a fifty minute set-up and then lots of garbled nonsense, pulling of levers and flicking the vswitches in the TARDIS to round off the episode.’

    It seems Dr Who has become a vehicle for the far-Left BBC to say f*ck you to the silent white majority.

    Remnind me why that same public have to pay for this rubbish ?.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Wonder what the viewing figures were like after all that advertising ..?

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      • JohnC says:

        I would be more interested in how many only watched the first 10 minutes.

        Luckily the BBC get their money just the same even if nobody watches it.

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    • Sluff says:

      Wheelchair bound UNIT scientist- in a steelworks full of stairways. Check.
      Mixed marriage, Donna has BAME husband. Check.
      Donna’s daughter is kind of non-binary. Check.

      One thing missing was the colours of the Palestinian flag,
      But with today’s digital special effects, you never know…..

      The other thing missing was a sympathetic white British character. Check.

      Off switch. Check.

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      • Tabs says:

        The fluffy alien also said what it’s preferred pronouns are. Check.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Wot no Hamas freedom fighting dalek?

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        • Scroblene says:

          Surely the stupid programme should be called Dr. Whichwaybutnormal?

          Suits the cubicaloids then…

          I seem to remember seeing the first ever stuff, and wasn’t really impressed back then, because there were far funnier programmes to watch, when the BBC actually did some real humour!

          I wonder how many kids in far-flung countries actually watch it? Presumably the beeboid’s income is massively swolen from flogging it to some dire African country, occupied by thickos who really haven’t a clue what’s going on…

          …Hang on, they’re showing it over here too, so the same scenario applies!

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I’m glad I didn’t watch. I used to love Dr Who from the days of Patrick Troughton, but you couldn’t pay me to watch this rubbish. The female Dr Who with her oh so woke assistants was the last straw for me. I don’t think the black gay Dr Who will be an improvement.

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  23. Zephir says:

    Regarding Atlas Shrugged and the video critiquing the good ol’ US as the moral guardians of the world…clutchinbg their pearls at human rights abuses..

    Two people jailed for over 7 years for mocking Hillary Clinton, a “justice” system which threatens the accused of 30 years jail or a likely execution if they plead not guilty, reminding them of the over 99 per cent conviction rate, ensuring innocent people take a “plea bargain” and do jail time.

    Jails where no one is safe…

    Etc etc

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  24. Zephir says:

    And, still they get away with their extremism and racism on the streets of London:

    “Police watch while GP exposed by the Mail on Sunday urges Gaza’s Arab neighbours to attack Israel

    A family doctor has been revealed as the leader of an extremist Islamic group”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12791615/Police-watch-GP-exposed-Mail-Sunday-urges-Gazas-Arab-neighbours-attack-Israel.html

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Suella Braverman was absolutely correct in her article for the Times newspaper.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        That’s why she had to be removed. In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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        • Scroblene says:

          You know that, and I know that, Rob, but with so many foreigners in positions of power in our beloved country, the original pride we had for Great Britain has been diminished to a small paragraph on the back pages of some forgotten rag, and the Beeboids are just enjoying sitting in the shit they’ve contributed to so well!

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  25. Zephir says:

    “‘I will never see my children grow up’: British father’s anguish as he learns his girl, 12, was murdered by Hamas thugs in Israeli Kibbutz massacre six weeks ago – in atrocity that also killed her twin brother

    Gavin Heller, 50, from north London has expressed devastation over the news. His daughter Liel, 12, was murdered with her twin brother Yannai, by Hamas
    Liel was identified from fragments found at Kibbutz Be’eri following the attack.

    ‘The family in Israel buried Yannai and his aunt Aylus, but because at this point Liel wasn’t found they buried some of her toys.

    ‘Then last Saturday after her burial, Liel was identified by her DNA. There were reports that they found fragments of her body, that was all that was left. ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12790703/I-never-children-grow-British-fathers-anguish-learns-girl-12-murdered-Hamas-thugs-Israeli-Kibbutz-massacre-six-weeks-ago-atrocity-killed-twin-brother.html

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    77 Brigade ( hi kids ) gets a dishonourable mention in the Mail today for spying on British citizens dissenting from Chinese virus vaccines . The article chooses not to link the boss of 77 with the blue labour culture committee chair – Mrs Dinage ? – …anyway 77 – note to Fedup file …. Although I suspect it’s all automatic …

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  27. Guest Who says:

    Just Mehdi showing why he was a bbc go to gob for so long.

    https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1728480017376792937?s=61
    Nothing to see here, just a Murdoch-owned New York Post reporter who has long been obsessed with me, suggesting my Muslims friends & family members are Hamas supporters because they’re opposed to the killing of kids in Gaza.
    The media Islamophobia is real in this country, folks.

    #ccbgb

    Community note: he has no friends.

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  28. Up2snuff says:

    I will have to take a leave of absence from this site for the foreseeable future. Hold me in your prayers or hold a good thought for me as Dennis Franz’s character in NYPD Blue would say. It is not a health problem. Back as soon as possible. Keep on battling the BBC behemoth.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – good luck with your future – you’ll be much missed …I’m guessing you’ve got ‘inside information ‘ and gone down the bunker …😎

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      • Scroblene says:

        Amen to that, Fed!

        Uppers, you can always catch up on my simple pages, where you’ll be most welcome at any time!

        http://scroblene-webley-bullock.blogspot.com/

        I don’t do that many posts, but they’re all diamond value, and really should be bottled for prosperity, which is what I’ve asked my daughter to do if the grim reaper decides to cancel my keyboard…

        Same goes for you Fed, and any chums who need respite from the awful Beeboid drivel that some taxpayers have to put up with!

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    • moggiemoo says:

      Are you spending a year dead for tax purposes?

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  29. Fedup2 says:

    From the DT – a piece about Jeremy ‘Mohammed ‘ bowen

    STARTS
    BBC international editor Jeremy Bowen has admitted his coverage of the alleged bombing of a hospital in Gaza was “wrong” but still said he “doesn’t regret one thing” about his reporting.

    Speaking in a television interview, the veteran reporter said he was incorrect to have suggested Al-Ahli hospital “was flattened” in an explosion on October 17.

    Stories on the blast were a key flashpoint in controversy over the reporting on the war between Israel and Hamas.

    The BBC’s commitment to transparency comes in having a series of programmes called ‘Behind the Stories’ on which Mr Bowen was talking and made the comments.

    In an item on BBC One’s News at Ten hours after the first reports of an explosion, Mr Bowen said: “The missile hit the hospital not long after dark. You can hear the impact.

    “The explosion destroyed Al-Ahli hospital. It was already damaged from a smaller attack at the weekend. The building was flattened.”

    No 10 agreed with Israeli version
    The Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) claimed the blast was caused by a misfired rocket from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group and released imagery and communications intercepts to support their case. Hamas claimed an Israeli airstrike led to the blast, which was said to have killed at least 500 people. The British government later concluded the Israeli version of events was more likely to be correct.

    It later emerged that the hospital building was intact and any explosion had centred on the car park, claiming far fewer casualties than the first accounts of 500 dead. The Anglican diocese that manages the hospital reported 200 people had died after the blast.

    News of the incident disrupted US president Joe Biden’s visit to the Middle East, with the cancellation of a summit in Jordan where he had been due to meet Arab leaders.

    In the following 48 hours, a synagogue in the central Tunisian city of Al-Hammah was set on fire during mass rioting while two Molotov cocktails were thrown at a synagogue in central Berlin.

    Asked about the report in an interview on Behind The Stories on the BBC News channel on Saturday, Mr Bowen said: “So it broke in, I suppose, mid-evening and to answer your question, no, I don’t regret one thing in my reporting because I think I was measured throughout. I didn’t race to judgement.”

    Pressed further about saying the hospital had been “flattened”, he said: “Oh yeah, well I got that wrong because I was looking at the pictures and what I could see was a square that appeared to be flaming on all sides and there was, sort of, a void in the middle. I think it was a picture taken from a drone.

    “So, you know, we have to piece together what we see and I thought, ‘It looks like the whole building has gone’.

    “That was my conclusion from looking at the pictures and I was wrong on that, but I don’t feel particularly bad about that. It was just the conclusion I drew.”

    Mr Bowen said sometimes the corporation had to “rely on things people say” as well as looking “at the multiplicity of videos” that are released before making a judgement on what to report.

    In the first story about the hospital on the BBC on October 17, correspondent Jon Donnison suggested Israel was behind the blast. Speaking shortly after 8pm on BBC News, he said: “It’s hard to see what else this could be, really, given the size of the explosion, other than an Israeli airstrike or several airstrikes.”

    First BBC reports prompted complaints
    Mr Donnison’s comments prompted the Board of Deputies of British Jews and the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) to complain to the corporation.

    Tim Davie, the director-general of the BBC, referred the complaints to the corporation’s executive complaints unit (ECU), which considered them in light of their “editorial standards of accuracy and impartiality”.

    However, the ECU ruled that Mr Donnison had not offered a “definitive judgement” but accepted that it was “not consistent with the BBC’s standards of due accuracy to offer any view about responsibility for the incident at a point where so little reliable information was available”.

    Hadar Sela, co-editor of CAMERA UK, told The Telegraph: “Anyone who was under the impression that the BBC had learned any lessons from its hasty assignment of blame to Israel for the explosion at the Al-Ahli hospital on October 17th will understand from Jeremy Bowen’s statements that they were sadly wrong.

    “Bowen’s arrogant declaration that he ‘doesn’t regret one thing’ about his misreporting the hospital building as ‘flattened’ and his claim that he ‘didn’t rush to judgement’ even though he amplified unverified claims from third parties is sad testimony to the standard of BBC journalism on display throughout this conflict.”ENDS

    Look the thing that makes the bias really serious is that the stance of the BBC can / does affect people in that region and beyond – the Donison lie gave an excuse for Arab countries not to meet with the US – Bowen incites hatred even more on UK streets by lieing about events …. Yet the arrogance he has developed over his career ‘I’m from the BBC ‘ now infects All the pro Hamas coverage …

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  30. AsISeeIt says:

    To vote or not to vote, in this hard-right peacenik Sunday edition

    Over there at the BBC online news page, where Israel-Gaza war is separated from our War in Ukraine by the Cost of Living – major news subject clickable tab-wise at least…

    We note some odd phrasing and an unusual notion: Zelensky is up for re-election. But can Ukraine vote? Some right-wing US politicians want Ukraine to vote next year. Ukrainians don’t. (BBC)

    That’s quite a heavy helping of loaded messaging from our BBC for Mr AsI to parse, at this time of the morning, after a Saturday night out.

    At this rate I may never get around to solving the puzzling on-going conundrum of how it can be true that both Times and Telegraph may simultaneously claim on their masthead the honorific motto: Sunday Newspaper of the Year

    Trump and the Truth: The “Lying” Media (The New Yorker September 2016) – perhaps he was on to something afterall?

    Doublethink and Newspeak

    Newspeak: propagandistic language that is characterized by euphemism, circumlocution, and the inversion of customary meaning (Encyclopedia Britannica); Doublethink is the act of holding, simultaneously, two opposite, individually exclusive ideas or opinions and believing in both simultaneously and absolutely (Cliffs Notes)

    The Labour supporting Sunday Mirror, that is consequently torn between support for Israel and on the other hand for Hamas, two opposite and individually exclusive fanbases, takes a bold run at two opposite and mutually exclusive notions this morning – albeit in quotation marks, so to speak: Dad’s relief as hostages freed. My darling girl is broken but in one piece

    Broken but in one piece – like a magic… biscuit?

    Hamas kept up the terror till the end, say first hostages out (Telegraph)

    But we digress. As those broad characatured German officers tend to threaten their subordinates in vintage Hollywood war movies “It’s the Russian front for you!”

    Ukraine war: Fierce row erupts over 2024 election… All elections – including presidential ones – are prohibited under the country’s current martial law (BBC) – that doesn’t sound like our super brave beacon outpost of western liberal democracy. But as they tend to say in old Dad’s Army episodes “There is a war on, you know”

    Local elections and London mayoral race postponed for a year (Guardian, March 2020) – we will avoid a digression here into the bent remit of the expensive sideshow that has revealed itself to be the Pro-Lockdown Official Covid Inquiry (PLOCI)

    How inquiry is exposing deep flaws in Covid decision-making (BBC) – the only flaws the expensively hired by the hour KCs seem interested in are how come Lockdown wasn’t sooner, harder and longer.

    Speak of the devil: Keir Starmer open to return of Parthenon marbles, reports say… Labour leader gives strongest hint yet of support for loan deal with Greece if his party wins next election (Guardian) – Ah, our Sir Keir, he’s all about the hints

    Mind you this would bring him into agreement with: George Osborne hopeful Elgin Marbles deal will go ahead despite museum thefts… British Museum chair believes that talks with Greek premier over return of treasures have not been jeopardised (FT) – some suggest, given our current useless anti-British crop of politicians from across the political divide that we live under somewhat a Uniparty. Do draw your own conclusions.

    But we promised we wouldn’t further digress.

    So it’s back to the Russian front…

    To vote, or not to vote: that is the question:
    Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
    The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
    Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
    And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
    No more; and by a sleep to say we end

    Many in Ukraine are outraged by the idea, fearing a vote could distract the nation from its fight for survival. Tensions eased after President Volodymyr Zelensky said in November that it was “not the right time” for elections. (BBC) – you have to admire the idea that our BBC has apparently confidently opinion polled the Ukraine population, despite the on-going war and martial law.

    Some might say the the hapless jewish Zelensky has been held hostage by western militants, so-called freedom fighters and gun(sales)men (not terrorists, mind you) for months and deserves now to be released to live freely with his bank accounts and foreign properties.

    The discussion about Ukrainian elections is partly being pushed by US politicians ahead of the country’s election in 2024, particularly by a small group within the Republican party, says Olha Aivazovska, chairwoman of the election monitoring network Opora – our BBC there about to tell us what it wants us to think – careful to separate its editorial line by a degree or so of separation and deniabilty…

    She argues that some hard-right Republicans are using the issue to justify their demand to block military aid to Ukraine. (BBC)

    These hard-right peaceniks, eh – what is one to do with them?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I like the one where the chancellor just decided to spread covid via a taxpayer funded restaurant gimmick for which he didn’t seek any advice at all …..
      And he still has his job …. Wonder how many he killed ?

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      • AsISeeIt says:

        Each to their own and all that but I’m afraid I don’t buy into the narrative that Lockdowns saved lives.

        I’ll grant you that Rishi was a rubbish chancellor and is a worse PM

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  31. taffman says:

    Oh Look! The moon .
    What planet are they on?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-67535849

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  32. Tabs says:

    BBC now calling a video of blacks looting a store a “flash mob” as if it some kind of entertainment.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-67506716

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  33. Thoughtful says:

    A dystopian future which is very very possible outlined here:

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  34. G.W.F. says:

    I found this heartbreaking. Sadly, the BBC and our politicians cannot see it this way

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Still waiting for the ‘name ‘ … we know he has previous and is from the Algerian part of Eire ….

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Powerful stuff – do listen – it’s 20 plus minutes but worth it …. Plenty of trouble in store in Eire – and in the UK , France., Holland , Denmark … and on ….

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      • taffman says:

        A wakeup call from Ireland ?
        How many other reported “stabbings” are actually throat slashings ? Is our Home Office Protecting us , Is our Tory Government protecting us ?
        Are news reports being censored in the interest of “Social Cohesion” ?
        The only way out of this ‘pressure cooker’ is to vote for Reform before it explodes.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Taffman – not so sure on the ‘wake up’ .. I’m just amazed there haven’t been terrorist attacks in londonistan – but I suppose since they own it now they’ll go somewhere else …

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          • JohnC says:

            I suspect there has been MASSIVE covert police activity to prevent any trouble. They will have been planning for something like this for years.

            As we’ve seen, the tactic has been to protect the Muslims from anyone who might trigger them – while leaving them to do whatever they want. Things which whitey would have been arrested for.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Always wondered what attracted a certain kind of gay pol to pursue the trappings of power… most seem beyond bonkers, but that is a crowded field with the rest.

        Maybe they are hoping as rather minging old farts it’s a way to get snagged by a dashing young levantine lovely sent as a honey trap by a foreign power?

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  35. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Will they be ‘adjusting’ this year’s immigration numbers next year, depending on next years numbers.
    They might need to ‘find’ a couple of hundred thousand more to ‘correct’ this years number so that they can say “immigration numbers are going down”….just as they have done this year.

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  36. Fedup2 says:

    The Irish ambassador to Israel has been summons to explain why a little girl kidnapped – abducted – held hostage – was only described as ‘lost by the queer foreigner who is the Irish PM ….they sure know how to pick them …

    Maybe the UK ambo to Israel can get a regular slot to explain the conduct and words of the State Broadcaster- which is funded by the UK Government directly via a compulsory licence …

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  37. tomo says:

    When the revolution comes – he’s going to miss the firing squad and get stuck in a freezer?

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  38. Lucy Pevensey says:

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Currently not advisable, but has been running for several years in the Gaza concentration camp. Bookings are, however, available.
      https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g663088-d7021114-Reviews-Roots_Hotel-Gaza_City_Gaza.html

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Hamas had no choice but to invade Israel as is being said but not for the reasons stated here.

      My belief is that Putin and Netenyahu who have a close relationship wanted a second front opened. Wagner trained Hamas, Netenyahu ignored all the warning about it coming from neighbouring countries and threatened to court marshal his officers for telling him it was coming.

      Netenyahu is a monster he has been for a long time, and his time in office looked to be coming to an end. Aside from being a monster he was also corrupt and being brought to trial, what better way to set that aside than a prolonged war against Hamas and accommodating people in Washington?

      This ‘war’ in not what it appears to be, don’t be fooled.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Thoughtful
        I came to the view that in terms of identity politicians are politicians first – human beings second – maybe male /female and then affiliated to a ‘belief’ according to their personal need

        Sure the Gaza horror would suit Putin – but surely Netanyahu would not have wanted that inflicted of so many innocent in such a brutal way ….
        And the inquiry into the failure or detection prevention and response will surely leave him fried ….. on top of the issues he faced for the attack ….
        …. Haven’t heard the periodic ‘putin close to death ‘ nonsense for a while …..

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        • Thoughtful says:

          I think Netenyahu will not hold an inquirey into how it happened until he declares Hamas destroyed, and he has already stated that will take years. Meanwhile his corruption case lies in abeyance until the ‘war’ is over, for him it’s a win win, but many innocent people on both sides lie dead as a result.

          There is an awful lot of evidence about what happened in the run up to the invasion which I skipped, but it all points in the same direction.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Ok – but if Hamas had been ‘allowed ‘ to attack I’m sure they’d have managed to kill more than 1200 /1400 souls and got it higher …. I’m pro Israel – Israelis don’t kill us in the name of their religion – unlike the evil other lot ….

            Unfortunately I think the pressure on Israel to stop before Islamic Hamas is destroyed wil, stop the job being done – for the time being …

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  39. Guest Who says:

    I have always had mixed feelings about Twitter.

    But like the ‘A’ bomb from the start I clearly had to accept it existed, so no point worrying about the creation stage.

    Since then it has ebbed and flowed. For a fair while I was pretty cool with it as a source of information from relatively reliable sources.

    That changed when Trump was elected, and the bearded one allowed the forces of state propaganda, and not just the msm, to use it as just another sheeple misinformation platform on politics, climate, etc.

    So I saw it more as something to stay upon to stay abreast of what the forces of weevils were up to, and hone debating skills on occasion in entertainment playing with them.

    But things got a bit hairy as the jokesters outside found worse inside and started banning left, left and wherever Jack and Jill in BBC HR found each other.

    What was on twitter became the truth, and could then be quoted by all staff with impunity as the word of gods. Dark times.

    Then came Musk. Personally I find him odd and occasionally painfully wrong (Thai cave was a low), but he certainly acted as a corrective to the ambitions to the TNI bloc.

    However blocking remained, plus the vague catch all of ‘hate speech’, and this has stayed a real issue as a selective censorship complement used with no compunction by the bubble dwellers to stay pure with their followers and keep out any questions to spoil the narrative.

    In the spirit of ‘free speech’ any twerp can claim anything (eh, Jon… Leo), but thanks to Community Notes things have swung back again… unless of course the ‘protections’ kick in. Then propaganda stays protected by censorship. And becomes a matter of who says what, when, backed by how many irrespective of truth or counter.

    One thing I notice is the much vaunted BBC Verify does pretend to be even handed, but what it chooses to tackle and when, and more crucially not, is beyond laughable in how obvious their agenda is.

    So as ever weight of numbers count, with brainwashed acolytes as much as they do marches, protest, polls, panels etc.

    https://x.com/dianabuttu/status/1728122435931656308?s=20
    Every one of the Palestinian kids released from Israel’s prisons is speaking about how they were beaten and abused. Kids.

    Look at her reach. And it’s not just nut jobs followed by Guerin, Bowen, etc, but TNI partners hand in glove with Saz and Lurch

    https://x.com/Newsweek/status/1728626202724675885?s=20
    Donald Trump greeted by loud boos at South Carolina football game

    #CCBGB

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – I don’t know whether I’m preoccupied with this site but I don’t look at Twitter much any more – and when I do I seem to be fed far more US content which doesn’t interest me ….

      I hope mr musk doesn’t lose much money on the twitter but the swamp clearly wants him gone …

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  40. tomo says:

    Sam Altman and the cult of effective altruism

    How did such a mad, apocalyptic ideology gain so much influence?

    With all the blathering and £££££££££££ on PR – the dark underbelly of “AI” comes into view?

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/26/sam-altman-and-the-cult-of-effective-altruism/

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  41. atlas_shrugged says:

    IMHO this clip shows a clear case of police harassment. The wet police in action:

    https://gettr.com/post/p2ve2rc178e

    On LBC radio this morning a Jewish commentator was explaining that Tommy Robinson was the only ‘friend of Israel’. That is a really sad indictment of our MSM who are allowing Jewish hatred to be fueled by the media and by the wet police who are violating their oath (without fear or favour).

    IMHO That senior wet police officer in the clip needs arresting for malfeasence in public office. What about the black boys stabbing each other every day? What about Jewish people being attacked and intimidated in Londonistan? What about the attacker and stabber of Hatun still not being brought to justice? The wet police are a waste of our taxes.

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    • Zephir says:

      Agreed, they are bloody cowards.

      As he pointed out when they outnumber. All suddenly big, tough men, as I have found out, but when confronted with the swivel eyed arab mobs, they just bloody stand there and film them.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Context on Tommy
      The Met Police tweet explaining his arrest has been rationed 5,000 to 1,200
      That is quite a lot

      some Big Blue tick account call them out and get 3,000+ Likes
      eg Laurence Fox shouts “Two tiered political policing. ” #TwoTierPolicing
      Sammy Woohouse is there too

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      • StewGreen says:

        The livefeed of the arrest
        It’s a link direct to 1h39m
        Before that Tommy and team are sitting in a restaurant , and are given news , that police have been ordered to do a targeted arrest against him, as soon as he leaves the restaurant.

        The BBC on the hour news gave no such context
        but rather deliberately deceptive “Tommy Robinson, former leader of the EDL” etc

        https://rumble.com/v3xxp6a-tommy-live-at-londons-antisemitism-march.html?start=5951

        I’s the weirdest arrest , 30 officers are on one man and get him into the van after 14 minutes

        The obvious contradiction
        the arrest is on the grounds of stopping stress
        yet it creates a 100 times more stress than of they had left him alone

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  42. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  43. AsISeeIt says:

    Sometimes you have to wonder why the BBC bothers to report on these things – given the amount of vital explanitary and contextual info they deliberately hold back.

    Manchester police probe Hamilton theatregoers’ fight… Police are investigating a fight which broke out between theatregoers at a performance of the hit musical Hamilton. A man and a woman in the audience were thought to have been involved in the fight at Palace Theatre, Manchester, on Friday… (GMP) spokesman said officers were called following a “report of an assault”. He added: “An investigation is ongoing at this time with no arrests made. “Thankfully, injuries sustained are not believed to be life-threatening.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-67536158

    Riot police attacked by ‘hostile’ crowd in Auchinleck – there must have been something going on for riot police to have turned up. It’s not as though random hostile crowds seek out and just happen upon innocent bands of otherwise unemployed helmeted and riot shielded cops to attack.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-67535875

    Riot police officers came under attack from a “hostile” crowd during large-scale disorder in an East Ayrshire village… Local councillors Claire Leitch and William Lennox issued a joint statement condemning the night of violence… “Given the lack of details around the situation and the potential for a criminal investigation, it would be inappropriate to comment further.” – no news for us there then.

    The BBC, bringing you all the non-news reports and uninformative comment about our daily news events – at considerable cost via your licence fee.

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  44. tomo says:

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I bet the iDF is stocking up on new kit …whilst Islamic Hamas is off booby trapping and clearing out their hospitals of their weapons ..

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    • tomo says:

      Hmmm – Can’t archive everything

      Gaza shopping malls, hotels, swiimming pools and beaches – seaside resort stuff…

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  45. Fedup2 says:

    World at one
    The awful naughtie – a piece on the US election and the latest Kennedy clone … all playing the game where the election isn’t already fixed …. Some liar claimed 75% of US voters don’t want either Obama / Biden or President trump to run …

    They didn’t break down the 74% against Biden and 1% president trump – – so it was all just lies … although the BBC didn’t seem what way to go on Kennedy – presumably the script is written for the next assassination….

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  46. Zephir says:

    Terry Venables dead: Ex-England, Tottenham and Barcelona manager dies aged 80
    Terry Venables, who led England to the Euro 96 semi-finals, has sadly passed away.

    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1839198/Terry-Venables-England-Tottenham-Barcelona

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  47. JohnC says:

    BBC headline bullet points today:

    ‘Hamas’s attacks on 7 October killed 1,200 people, with about 240 taken hostage’

    ‘Since then, Gaza’s Hamas-run health ministry says more than 14,500 people have been killed in Israel’s retaliatory campaign’

    Got to admire the doggedness of the BBC to try and create some kind of implied moral equivalence between Hamas and Israel.

    Just comparing ‘people killed’ when one side brutally and deliberately murdered innocent women and children in cold blood while the other then went to war to rid the world of those who did it is shameful misrepresentation in the extreme.

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  48. tomo says:

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  49. tomo says:

    and this folks, is why the cult of victimhood that the BBC preaches *constantly* is so utterly poisonous.

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