426 Responses to Midweek 16th July 2025

  1. MarkyMark says:

    2025… 16 and 17-year-olds to be able to vote in next general election
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c93kkg37n3kt

    2018…Liverpool ‘child asylum seekers’ found to be adults
    Published 8 December 2018
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-46494675

    Date Migrants arrived Boats arrived Boats involved in uncontrolled landings Notes
    9 July 2025 0 0 0
    10 July 2025 573 10 0
    11 July 2025 353 5 0
    12 July 2025 317 6 0
    13 July 2025 132 2 0
    14 July 2025 12 1 0
    15 July 2025 0 0 0
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Looks like my idea of reducing the number of people entitled to vote isn’t gaining ‘traction ‘. Increasing the minimum age to 21 – no benefits claimants – UK national for at least 10 years – no ginger people – that sort of thing …

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  2. MarkyMark says:

    Keir Starmer gives speech at first ever Civil Society Summit

    The Prime Minister will deliver a speech at the government’s first Civil Society Summit, marking a major moment in reshaping how government works with communities.

    ……………….
    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=24831&chamber=house-of-commons

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    • Flotsam says:

      His speech contradicts everything he is doing.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Nobody listens – remember when Corbyn shouted “build bridges not walls” inside a walled compound of Glastonbury? HA HA HAH HAH AH AHAH HA H AHA


        “Look on the wall right over there – there is a message on the wall to Donald Trump (boooooo goes the crowd), build bridges not walls (hooray goes the crowd)”

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    I wonder how many people claiming to be 13/ 14 now will be around at the time of the next general election – if TTK holds one ?

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  4. MarkyMark says:

    “I think it’s really important that 16 and 17-year-olds have the vote, because they’re old enough to go out to work, they’re old enough to pay taxes. I think if you pay in you should have the opportunity to say what you want your money spent on. I’m really pleased that we’re able to bring more young people into our democracy, and give them the chance to have a say over how their taxes are going to be paid and what they’re going to be used.”

    I think if you pay in you should have the opportunity to say what you want your money spent on.

    Date Migrants arrived Boats arrived Boats involved in uncontrolled landings Notes
    9 July 2025 0 0 0
    10 July 2025 573 10 0
    11 July 2025 353 5 0
    12 July 2025 317 6 0
    13 July 2025 132 2 0
    14 July 2025 12 1 0
    15 July 2025 0 0 0

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

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  5. Flotsam says:

    Votes for 16 year olds? There is no definitive test for age. The Muslim vote has just expanded 200%

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Afghan tea boys?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Must be time for 16 year old MPs – they’d fit in well

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        • MarkyMark says:

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  6. MarkyMark says:

    “And my goodness me(Anna Soubry), she (Halimah Khaled) and members of her (Muslim) community could teach many white British people many a good thing. And if my community, such as as it is, learned more from your community, this country would be a better country.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/anna-soubry-if-white-british-community-learned-more-from-muslims-then-uk-would-be-a-better-country_uk_59b80b3ce4b027c149e2dd27

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    • Docmarooned says:

      That creature is certifiably insane. How anyone voted for her is hard to fathom unless they are as well. Only thing I learn from muslims is hatred and bigotry.

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      • moggiemoo says:

        I remember when she was on East Midlands Today, I always thought she had the look of the demented about her.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      At least soobreys mouth got her thrown out by sane voters

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    Here’s a good one from the DT – and I think they might now have someone to fire over the Hamas documentary –

    STARTS When it comes to Israel, no matter how low the BBC sinks, it always finds grim new depths to plumb. Deborah Turness, head of news at the Corporation, has told a staff meeting that Hamas’s government is “different” from its paramilitary wing.
    She made the comments in a meeting called to address the “catastrophic failure” that saw the BBC air the documentary Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone without telling viewers that the narrator was the son of a deputy minister in the Gaza government.
    A leaked video shows Turness claiming that the father was “a member of the Hamas-run government, which is different to being part of the military wing of Hamas”. She adds that “we need to continually remind people of the difference”. It is another slide into the moral morass for an organisation that has spent the two years since the October 7 terrorist attacks assiduously trashing what little reputation it had left as a fair and impartial reporter of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
    That reputation will never recover from the Corporation’s decision to continue livestreaming Bob Vylan’s Glastonbury set even as the lead vocalist began leading the crowd in calls for “death, death to the IDF”. The way things are going, Hamas would be well advised to distance itself from the BBC.
    Turness is wrong as a matter of fact and as a matter of law. For years, useful idiots in the British foreign policy arena promoted the fiction that Hamas’s politburo was a separate entity to its paramilitary wing: the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. This allowed the organisation to escape comprehensive proscription.
    That changed in 2021 when the Government concluded that “the approach of distinguishing between the various parts of Hamas is artificial” and that Hamas is “a complex but single terrorist organisation”. A person who invites support for Hamas in the UK, even if they specify only the “political wing”, commits an offence under the Terrorism Act 2000.
    The BBC’s head of news might be expected to know this, but it is not only Turness’s ignorance that is troubling. It is the attempt to downplay the gravity of the editorial failings that put the Gaza documentary on the air and the breach of trust with viewers that it represented. A news organisation that felt sincere remorse over this episode would not be trying to weasel its way out of responsibility.
    The BBC is too rotten to the core with error, arrogance and ideology to be truly contrite, especially when its favourite punching bag is involved. The anti-Israel bias is so systemic that it has become an inextricable part of the Corporation’s identity. It could no sooner give up its hostile framing of Israel than it could ditch the opening theme to The Archers. But a BBC that can’t be even-handed on Israel is a BBC that can no longer be trusted. ENDS

    the hole thing stems from the anti semetism of the BBC – Many of them would have enjoyed watching slaughter of the 7th October – I bet they show it at the Christmas doo s

    The clearest evidence is their refusal to describe Hamas as an Islamic terrorist gang thus opening the door to the bbc being a Hamas propaganda arm – pumping out any Hamas message without verification ..

    The DT has video of turness attempting to justify using a Hamas kid in their video … she must go – wouid be a great scalp for us

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  8. pugnazious says:

    Hamas aren’t terrorists and anyway the Hamas government is not, er, ‘Hamas’…it’s a completely separate entity from the non-terrorists.

    ‘When it comes to Israel, no matter how low the BBC sinks, it always finds grim new depths to plumb. Deborah Turness, head of news at the Corporation, has told a staff meeting that Hamas’s government is “different” from its paramilitary wing.

    She made the comments in a meeting called to address the “catastrophic failure” that saw the BBC air the documentary Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone without telling viewers that the narrator was the son of a deputy minister in the Gaza government.

    A leaked video shows Turness claiming that the father was “a member of the Hamas-run government, which is different to being part of the military wing of Hamas”. She adds that “we need to continually remind people of the difference”. It is another slide into the moral morass for an organisation that has spent the two years since the October 7 terrorist attacks assiduously trashing what little reputation it had left as a fair and impartial reporter of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.’

    Sounds familiar….Muslims terrorising us in the name of Islam are not real Muslims we are told…Islam is the religion of peace….totally separate from those wielding the sword in one hand and the Koran in the other.

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  9. Flotsam says:

    interesting that the lowered voting age has been announced when Parliament is right at the end of its session and the day after the last PMQ’s.

    Kids will have to be “educated” about their new rights. Teachers and their Unions are solidly left wing so I can see teaching really being more an indoctrination.

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    Free Glastonbury ticket for every 16year old voter!
    ** includes free migrant for 2 year stay in your house
    *** always read the small print

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  11. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Children given the vote.
    These same children are deemed not mature enough to buy fireworks or superglue, you have to be 18 to do that.
    Not allowed to buy a pint in pubs.

    Almost every day this barmy government comes out with some terrible new way to piss off the majority of the population. Today it’s the vote rigging as most children get brainwashed in school to be raving lefties.
    The growler is changing some voting to proportional representation purely to try and stop Reform.

    Every day something new and awful. Chagos, Afghanistan cover up, Farmers, WFP, NI taxes….so many more very bad decisions.
    TTK and his foreign deals, all rubbish.
    Today he’s signing something with the Germans about immigration. That should stop all the dinghy boys crossing the North Sea from Hamburg to Hull.

    Let’s hope in 2029 at the latest, Nigel does a full 180 on everything this bunch of far left loonies have done.
    First thing, make Brexit 100% out instead of the dogs breakfast the politicians have changed our out vote to.

    By the way, I’ve seen many pictures on the likes of X of a huge mosque fire in Spain, a Notre Dame level fire, yet heard nothing on any news channel.
    Did it happen and if yes, is there a ‘super injunction’ on it?

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    • moggiemoo says:

      They don’t want us to know that people are fighting back. If we’d had this MSM in the 40s we’d never have known about the war and would all now be speaking German. Until we’re forced to learn Arabic.

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    • andyjsnape says:

      Super injunction on Starmers 3 “friends”

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    • Loobyloo says:

      If starmer’s excuse for giving 16 yr olds the vote is because they might be working – just give those that are working the vote. And I might add that at that age they are hardly likely to be paying tax. What about those with a paper round? Can they get the vote?

      Aren’t they supposed to be in full time education till 18 now… so just those on an apprenticeship..

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      • Oldspeaker says:

        https://www.lawscot.org.uk/news-and-events/legal-news/brain-not-fully-developed-until-age-25-research-reveals/
        Brain not fully developed until 25 apparently, or ever in some. I’m sure there was a recent legal defence citing such.
        Still, OK to vote because fully developed brain not required. Not a transparent ploy to keep power at any cost at all.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Why do 16 year olds make bad decisions?
        From getting beyond drunk at a friend’s party, to some seriously questionable outfit choices, teenagers often do things that seem outlandishly stupid. But there is a biological reason for this behaviour: the areas of the brain that control decision-making don’t fully develop until early adulthood.21 Jan 2018

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Spanish bishop offers Church resources after mosque attack
      https://aleteia.org/2025/07/17/spanish-bishop-offers-church-resources-after-mosque-attack/

      Comment: “It’s amazing how every country seems to be pissed off with Islam”

      BREAKING NEWS: MOSQUE SET ON FIRE IN SPAIN IN ALLEGED TARGETED ATTACK

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  12. vlad says:

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  13. wwfc says:

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  14. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – Jonny Dalek Dymond presenting as the Montacutie was long weekending

    Bit of a nightmare for Jonny. The cutaways to pricey BBC correspondents were not heard by the listener on their radios. Maybe BBC Engineering were is a state of high dudgeon over the over-large salaries paid to presenters and took their revenge?

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  15. vlad says:

    The scary case of a white British man detained and intimidated at the border, perhaps for a Fb comment.

    It’s happening increasingly frequently.

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  16. Flotsam says:

    I believe from GBNews the changes to voting age will introduce 10 million new voters, is that right? It seems a lot.

    I’m sorry if I keep harping on about the change but it looks an extraordinary thing to do. It reminds me of the sort of things one used to hear from dictatorial banana republics, we could laugh about stupid Johnny Foreigners and their corrupt regimes. It does in fact look like the sort of thing that used to happen in Nazi Germany. Corruption basically.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Might be more soon….”Twenty-four asylum seekers who claimed they were children after being sent to Liverpool were found to be adults, the city’s council has said.

      The authority said another 15 asylum seekers “should have been identified as children” by the government and accommodated in London instead.

      A Home Office spokesman said age-disputed cases remain “a very challenging area”.”
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-46494675

      “Lawyers know a judicial review will cost a council between £20,000 and £60,000 and use the threat of court to get their client what they want.

      “Fair play to Liverpool for trying to stand up to it. But win or lose, the taxpayer always loses out.”

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  17. MarkyMark says:

    USA…2025…Blastoff! SpaceX launches 26 Starlink satellites from foggy Vandenberg, nails landing

    UK..2025…HS2 trains could now run slower than initially expected when the rail line eventually opens to cut spiralling costs. Mark Wild, chief executive of the government-owned HS2 Ltd, said the flagship high-speed rail project, which is now predicted to cost £100 billion, could open at “reduced running speeds” to save money.20 Jun 2025

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      MM
      I think HS2 trains should also comply with the net zero plans and have the maximum speed of 20mph.
      As well as that, there’s the old “If it saves one life it’s worth it” they come out with.

      Train drivers get very high pay.
      When all they do is move a lever to go a bit faster or a bit slower you would think anybody could do it, even 16 year old voters. They don’t even need to turn or park.
      Bus drivers should be paid more than train drivers as their job is much more complicated.

      Train drivers (or Train Pointers as that’s about all they do) are heavily overpaid and the sooner all trains are automated the sooner we can get rid of these overpaid Labour’s favourites.

      Maybe we could do something like the self service checkouts with these junior doctors.
      Put in your symptoms, follow a flow chart and your pills come out like a cash machine dispenser. After all, most of them will get on to google for answers.

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  18. MarkyMark says:

    “Energy which is cheaper, cleaner… collaboration on borders for security.”

    …………………..

    Date Migrants arrived Boats arrived Boats involved in uncontrolled landings Notes
    10 July 2025 573 10 0
    11 July 2025 353 5 0
    12 July 2025 317 6 0
    13 July 2025 132 2 0
    14 July 2025 12 1 0
    15 July 2025 0 0 0
    16 July 2025 0 0 0
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

    While Germany has significantly reduced its direct imports of natural gas from Russia, it still receives Russian gas indirectly through other European countries. Germany’s dependence on Russian gas has decreased drastically since the start of the war in Ukraine, but it hasn’t completely eliminated Russian gas from its energy mix.

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  19. MarkyMark says:

    Germany to stop illegal migration by storing dinghies in warehouses – FFS – then resell them on amazon back to the traffickers? FFFS!

    ………….

    7 August 2021

    Britain spends £500,000 a year to keep Channel migrants’ boats piled up in a car park in case the ‘owner’ comes forward to claim them – and now plans to build a £2MILLION processing facility in Dover

    …………

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/treaty-between-the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland-and-the-federal-republic-of-germany-on-friendship-and-bilateral-cooperation
    Treaty between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Federal Republic of Germany on friendship and bilateral cooperation
    Treaty between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Federal Republic of Germany on friendship and bilateral cooperation

    From:
    Prime Minister’s Office, 10 Downing Street
    Published
    17 July 2025

    Guided by their steadfast commitment to individual liberty, human rights, democracy, and the rule of law in open societies, and by their will to work together for the good of the European continent and of an international order based on shared rules, norms and principles;

    individual liberty, human rights, democracy, and the rule of law in open societies

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  20. Althepalerp says:

    If you ask me, it should be rich and successful people only who get the vote.

    Thick peoples decisions, bring the country down.

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  21. Philip_2 says:

    Its staggering to think the BBC hasn’t even hit rock bottom
    By Danny Cohen (who also worked at the BBC as a former director)
    "This is staggering. Ms Turness does not seem to know that Hamas in its entirety is a proscribed terrorist organisation and there is no discernible difference between its constituent parts when it comes to terrorism. Yet, she believes it is important for BBC journalists to “continually” make this distinction.

    As military expert Andrew Fox noted this is akin to saying, “I think it’s very important that we are clear that Herr Hitler was a member of the political wing of the Nazi Party and not an active member of the SS”.

    This latest debacle is highly illuminating. It provides a clear-as-day insight into the thinking and approach of the most senior people in BBC News. It not only shows deep ignorance but reveals a strong appetite to downplay the reality of Hamas. That is the Hamas who brutally raped so many women on Oct 7, shot babies in the head and seeks the death of all Jews.

    In saying this, Ms Turness has inadvertently pulled back the curtain to reveal what many Jewish people have felt for the past 20 months: that the BBC’s reporting on Hamas and Gaza has very serious problems of accuracy and bias. "
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/17/its-staggering-to-think-the-bbc-hasnt-even-hit-rock-bottom/

    Totally agree. Trouble is BBC is part of the civil-service and cannot be sacked from office. They have immunity. They have a Charter. They have a license and they know how to use it. They know how to use it, cover up state secrets and do the dirty work of pure propaganda. They work for someone else.
    They also despise those that are forrced to pay for it.

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  22. Richard Pinder says:

    Question for ChatGPT: Has President Trump ordered the CIA to release its Epstein files?

    ChatGPT said: There’s no evidence that President Trump ever ordered the CIA to release Jeffrey Epstein’s files. Attorney General Bondi does not control CIA files. The review and limited release were done by DOJ/FBI, not the CIA, and those records were not CIA intelligence files. And after the July conclusion, the DOJ decided no further Epstein documents should be released. President Trump did not, and as far as public records show, could not, command the CIA to release any Epstein files. All movement on Jeffrey Edward Epstein’s documents went through the DOJ and FBI, and after high-level review, officials decided not to publish anything further. However, Mike Benz, an executive at the Foundation for Freedom Online, believes it’s “almost impossible that the CIA would not have been keeping tabs on Jeffrey Epstein since at least 1983,” and he speculates Epstein was a “fixer” tied to Iran–Contra–related covert operations, and that intelligence files on Epstein likely exist deep within CIA archives. Mike Benz says that Epstein was a conduit for covert funding, “money concealer” for arms traffickers connected to powerful networks, spy links between the CIA, MI6 and Mossad. There is no evidence President Trump or his administration issued any directive to the CIA to disclose Epstein-related intelligence or surveillance files. All known efforts to release information have come through the Justice Department and FBI, and only pertained to criminal investigation records, not CIA assets.

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    You know that line about britain having one of the best spy outfits in the world ?

    Well it turns out the details of spies and ‘ special forces ‘ were plopped on an excel spreadsheet and sent to the taliban .

    This means the taliban now know the colour of the boathouse door at herefore .

    A second super super injunction was apparently removed wednesday because the defence secretary leaked stuff in their commons …

    The parliament security commission knew nothing about this outrage and looks a waste of time and money – over to you 77 brigade -were your names and addresses on the spreadsheet?

    Elsewhere the Starmer – mertz pact between the krauts and britainistan was signed today – it means the panzers will cross the border in a couple of years – not that theres a border of course ..,

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Wonder how many super injunctions and D notices are running ?

      Certainly the burning of a mosque in spain hasnt made the mainstream media … ill be careful what i write because Echelon will pick up the wording as the britainistan state must be worried about such … events …

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  24. MarkyMark says:

    “In the end he didn’t kill himself, just like Jeffery Epstein (in take of breathe from crowd), shut up … I know he’s your friend. You had to make your own way here in your your own plane.”

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  25. Althepalerp says:

    BBC top paid presenters

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3lpl04e92o

    Not one BAME in the top 10.
    Isn’t that Racism?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Has the BBC moved from news to social engineering …. YES.
      “By 2020, the BBC wants its employees to comprise 50% women, 8% disabled people, 8% lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people and 15% people from black, Asian and ethnic minority backgrounds.{bbc.co.uk 14sep2017}”

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  26. atlas_shrugged says:

    Apologies if this has been posted before.

    20 year-old Iranian asylum seeker BMW driver causes mass crash on A1:

    1) Dangerous driving
    2) 2 Fails to stop
    3) Provisional licence
    4) No insurance

    Sentence:
    Age 20. Prosecuted as young offender. 14 months in young offenders camp

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  27. wwfc says:

    King opens speech with ‘Assalamu Alaikum’ during visit to Islamic centre
    https://www.gbnews.com/royal/king-charles-islam-assalamu-alaikum-meaning-royal-news

    king-charles.jpg?id=61239142&width=1000&quality=90

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  28. wwfc says:

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  29. pugnazious says:

    BBC quick to try and change the narrative….innocent nurse is the once again the baddie….

    ‘Trans changing room row nurse cleared of misconduct as tribunal resumes’

    Now….

    ‘Nurse confronted trans doctor in ‘unacceptable’ manner, tribunal hears’

    She asked him to leave and said he was a man….which, in the meantime, the Supreme Court has ruled is correct…soooo….no…it wasn’t unacceptable to say this…just biology and fact.

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  30. pugnazious says:

    Curious how the BBC is dealing with the Afghan debacle….although it’s headline news it’s purely a ‘live’ feed….there are no links to previous stories even as it gets increasingly apocalyptic.

    They worry…

    ‘But for now, those who have most to fear are the 600 former Afghan government soldiers and their estimated 1,800 relatives who are still in Afghanistan. ‘

    Hmmmm….still in Afghanistan? Doubt it if they had any sense….and if they’re still alive and are in Afghanistan then it suggests they’re not in so much danger….until our media ramps up the story and makes killing them worthwhile as a propaganda exercise.

    And of course the BBC still refuses to mention the £7 billion that Labour allocated to pay for all this largesse…Andrew Neil is on the case though…

    ‘It is interesting to note that while Labour ministers were telling us the government couldn’t afford £1.5billion for pensioners’ winter fuel allowance it was telling a court behind closed doors that it was allocating £7billion to resettle Afghans.’

    You can therefore also estimate the cost of the illegals and add on a wedge given that there are over 40,000 of them getting freebies…just how many billions?

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  31. taffman says:

    Is the Treason Law still extant ?
    We may be in need of it shortly ?

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    • Scroblene says:

      Was the £7bn part of the Blue Labour ‘black hole’?

      Talk TV touched on this today! Where were the auditors when this huge sum was being shoved in the back of a drawer in 10, Mohammed Street…? Our tax money is OUR money, not a government’s, so why were we not told that we were spending all this?

      The more I listen to and watch Talk, I see and understand the real issues, not the crap spewed out by the MSM, especially the far-left BBC.

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  32. pugnazious says:

    The Abbottamus is suspended once again…can she make yet another spectacular comeback….and if not will the BBC take her under their wing? She’ll fit right in.

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  33. Fedup2 says:

    It looks like the fruit and nut./ sultana – Corbyn – is gonna be a freesome with Diane abbot joining up after having the whip removed again …
    They’ll be whaling when she pops her clogs – have the look and sound of dementia / Parkinson’s …. A whole life of chips with everything on the taxpayers ‘ money …

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    • Scroblene says:

      It’ll be fun when they want funds and do the same as the old fool did when joining Red Labour gave everyone the vote for his stupidity!

      Worth the price of a couple of pints, then vote them down!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Hello Scroblene – well will there be a repeat of that mad Corbyn worship with all those 16 year old cheering on the ultra far left ( Hamas party ) ….

        … I suppose sometime or other a Marxist will express support for Hamas and commit a terrorism crime by doing so … speaking of which … where’s the arrest of that Glastonbury yob …?

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        • Scroblene says:

          I guess that the Classtownbury yob is at home with mummy in Chelsea, wondering what else he’s going to do now…

          Maybe singing lessons are on the cards, or perhaps mouth organ classes!

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Is her son joining the movement?

      Diane Abbott’s son admits spitting at police officer and biting his colleague outside Foreign Office
      James Abbott-Thompson, 28, was working as a diplomat for the government department after graduating from Cambridge
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/23/diane-abbotts-son-admits-spitting-police-officer-biting-colleague/

      Revealed: Diane Abbott’s diplomat son James Abbott-Thompson threatened her with scissors then attacked NINE medics and police while hooked on crystal meth
      MP begged police for help after she was chased round her house with scissors
      Her son, 28, bit an officer as he was sectioned under the Mental Health Act
      Details revealed now after Abbott-Thompson pleaded guilty to 16 offences
      Judge made an interim hospital order while psychiatric reports are prepared

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  34. Lefty Wright says:

    So votes at 16 for the children by the time of the next election.
    The Communists always did know how to make use of the kids.
    If that doesn’t bring about their agenda then it will be votes at 10.

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  35. JonathanR says:

    The Great Leader Starmer and his equally immature counterpart in Germany has committed to keep global warming below 1.5C above pre-industrial revolution levels.

    Have you ever heard anything so utterly ridiculous in your life? The mind boggles at how stupid these people are? How can you trust them with anything when they can come out with such a statement?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Have they given up travelling and eating?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      JonathanR

      The TTK pattern seems to be to ‘do deals ‘ just for the sake of saying he has done something – without saying that the deals them selves are crap – chagos being the high point …. Then he pops up in PMQs listing nonsense deals as though he has achieved something .

      I understand he is giving shedloads of our money to the EU again – as well as signing up to some dreadful UN treaty to screw us the next time the Chinese drop a virus on us .

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Special deals…. “Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has been accused of hypocrisy by Conservatives over a tax exempt pension deal he has from a previous job.”

        “Sir Keir criticised measures in the Budget which scrapped the £1m cap on lifetime pensions savings.”
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65037136

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  36. MarkyMark says:

    kakistocracy
    /kakɪˈstɒkrəsi/
    government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state.
    “the danger is that this will reduce us to kakistocracy”

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  37. MarkyMark says:

    What does it matter…

    What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

    ………………

    From a Theresa May speech …

    As Martin Wolf, the chief economics commentator of the financial times, says: ‘The desirability of sizeable immigration is a matter more of values than of economics..’

    https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/home-secretary-speech-on-an-immigration-system-that-works-in-the-national-interest

    * It is not a choice between wealth and poverty, but of the sort of country one desires to inhabit

    * The government are under a legal obligation to accommodate those who would be otherwise be destitute

    * The vast majority are single adult males.

    the sort of country one desires to inhabit
    the sort of country one desires to inhabit

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  38. MarkyMark says:

    Plans for direct train to Berlin in new UK-Germany treaty
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6m10g7e35o

    HS2: a complete failure by the British state and its politicians
    Nils Pratley
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2025/jun/18/hs2-a-complete-failure-by-the-british-state-and-its-politicians

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    Sometimes I try to take a ‘holistic ‘ overview of things – this one was triggered by the afgee horror – but if you step back from the detail – and look at the overall pattern – it is national decline – on and on it goes – has there been an upside since 1945 ?

    The answer is ‘no’ …. So the whole thing is unmanaged decline – red or blue … any company worth anything eventually gets sold off – any invention gets taken by – usually the Americans ,,,, yet the expectation of improving quality of life increases – ‘rights’ and ‘entitlements ‘ are just a given – without reference to who picks up the tab . ….

    All the above is made without reference to decades of invasion ..

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    • JonathanR says:

      The decline can be reversed The demographics cannot. Have we ever had a government “for the people” and by that I mean the British people?

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    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Fedup

      – it is national decline – on and on it goes –

      I was just thinking of the ‘advanced Iranian BMW driver’ posted above.

      An illegal invader arriving here aged 14 and put in council ‘care’. Then there is the BMW on lease, perhaps on a motability arrangement. The five destroyed police cars. The six hospitalised police in our beloved anychess. Then there is the judge, the court case, the lawyers, the social workers, the young offenders institution.

      This bloke is a one-man generator of jobs. He must spike our GDP all on his own. Someone to study in University economics departments for years to come. All on his own he gets to pay the mortgage of countless guardian readers.

      He is the very model of a modern major generator.

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      • tomo says:

        perhaps on a motability arrangement

        – can anyone think of a better reason for a superinjunction at the moment?

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  40. JohnC says:

    White House says Trump diagnosed with vein condition after questions about bruises
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1jw1pdyp0jo

    ‘Trump, 79, has regularly touted his good health and once described himself as “the healthiest president that’s ever lived”.’

    ‘The swollen legs and bruising prompted online speculation and rumours that the president may have been experiencing an illness that hadn’t been made public.’

    Sometimes the BBC and the Leftist MSM in general manage to absolutely amaze me with their blatant and shameless double standards. These people have no personal ethics or consciense whatsoever. They are the lowest form of snakes.

    After everything they covered up about Biden, they print this story interweaved with pure speculation as a world-news headline without a shred of embarassment. Simply amazing.

    I fear I must drop my opinion of these activists yet another notch. They truly are the lowest form of dregs a society can produce.

    Shame on you ‘Bernd Debusmann Jr’. I just checked his previous articles on muckrack and all of them about Trump are typical BBC : the core story is correct but they are full of sneering negativity.

    I can accept this kind of thing from the likes of the Guardian because we aren’t forced to fund it. That’s why they are begging for money all the time. But there is no way we should be forced to fund the BBC to do it.

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    • atlas_shrugged says:

      The much covid vaccinated President – Leg swelling and bruising?

      They mean like the much covid vaccinated Queen who had bruising on her hand at the meeting with the brief PM?

      This is a complete coincidence.

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      • JohnC says:

        My mum has it and it’s basically because of all the normal blood thinners elderly people are on to keep the blood pressure down. It means they don’t clot easily so the smallest of breaches in the capillaries causes bruising when they bleed.
        But not when it’s Trump of course. It’s a major illness being kept secret from the public.
        The most shameful of Leftist double standards being trumpeted by the BBC on their front page yet again.

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  41. wwfc says:

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  42. JonathanR says:

    Are we close to civil war?
    “… the Starmer administration’s mad policies—in particular, its attempts to squelch criticism of the Pakistani rape gangs scandal—are a textbook example of how to provoke civil war. The Starmer government is destroying its own legitimacy through “failure to secure the country, the failure to secure its borders against what can only be described as a large-scale border raid, and the failure to protect children, the most vulnerable people in our society from the most extraordinary and grotesque predation on very large scale.”
    David Betz, Professor of War in the Modern World at King’s College London

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  43. JonathanR says:

    I’m not sure if anyone has heard this podcast with David Betz, Professor of War in the Modern World but I will post the link as it is worth listening to it all.

    https://www.louiseperry.co.uk/p/the-coming-british-civil-war-david

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  44. tomo says:

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  45. tomo says:

    rilly?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Freedom of speech
      You can’t be sued (for example, for defamation) or prosecuted for anything you say in the Chamber, Westminster Hall or formal committee of the House. This allows you to speak up on behalf of constituents, express an opinion, or condemn corruption, malpractice or even criminal activity without fear of legal action, as long as you do so in proceedings of the House. This protection extends to written proceedings: for example, written and oral questions, motions, early day motions, and amendments tabled to bills and motions.

      https://guidetoprocedure.parliament.uk/articles/szEQlFBF/freedom-of-speech

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      It’s commendable that John Healey, the Secretary of State for Defence, revealed this treachery in the House of Commons. And that Starmer, for whatever his faults, has immediately suspended this particular immigration scam. Why hasn’t the media widely reported this latter point: does it not want the public to know that most migration can be stopped at any stage if there is political will? That it does not require new legislation, carefully negotiated schemes (scams) or pathological adherence to international law and human rights (sic) legislation?

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  46. JohnC says:

    This most cynical of actions to give 16 year olds the vote has a silver lining for me:

    Anyone who attempts to justify it as anything other than giving the vote to very young people simply to increase votes for Labour is a blatant liar.

    The best is ‘They are old enough to pay taxes so they should get a vote on how they are spent’ line. It’s complete BS and they know it. 16 year olds are old enough to work – and so must pay tax, but that in no way means they are mentally prepared to decide who runs the country.

    First on the block to be branded a shameless liar is TTK himself. I will enjoy watching all the others repeat his rhetoric so I can put those into the lying scum box as well.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      ‘They are old enough to pay taxes so they should get a vote on how they are spent’

      That’s an extremely interesting comment, as it implies support for qualified voting rather than universal suffrage i.e. people are only permitted to vote if they meet certain qualifications, such as being a tax payer. Does the opposite apply i.e. if you do not pay taxes then you are not allowed to vote? Do Labour understand the implications of this statement from a constitutional perspective? Wasn’t this sort of thinking behind the downfall of Mrs Thatcher through the Poll Tax?

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      • MarkyMark says:

        ” so they should get a vote on how they are spent” – 7 billion on Afghans without knowing? How they are spent?

        ………………
        Keir Starmer: It’s wrong to say ‘only women have a cervix’

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      • JohnC says:

        Amazing how their arguments change depending on the narrative isn’t it ?.

        The Left are the most stupendous hypocrites and they don’t care. That goes for everything – including their fake empathy for certain victims – such as Gaza – and their complete indifference to suffering if it doesn’t suit them – such as all the slaughter going on in Africa and Syria – where they can’t use it for their own agenda.

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  47. Fedup2 says:

    Why should voting be age related ? Surely if a 6 year old asks mummy for a vote they should get one – same with age limits on other stuff – military service – jury service – paying community charge – being an MP .

    Having a 15 year old as a democratically elected ( postal votes from school mates ) sitting in parliament would be much more ‘representative ‘ of the population .

    This wouid wouid include those hundreds of thousands of kiddies with ‘special needs ‘- or that pretty term ‘neural diversity ‘ or autism ….

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    • moggiemoo says:

      I would sooner trust a special needs 15 year old than this current government.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Greta dictates our energy policy.
      Rashford dictates school policy.
      Iran dictates our Hijab policy.

      94507997-14324689-image-m-59_1737820795297.jpg

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  48. Fedup2 says:

    D notice ?

    The mail on line reports on the protests about a hotel used for housing invaders in Epping forest – my neck of the woods . There has been a sex assault – one of the third worlders has been charged . The locals want the invaders gone – so there are ongoing disagreement with local plod who want to keep the invaders …
    But for some reason the BBC doesn’t report this …is there a policy or D notice to cover up the invasion ? Is there a spreadsheet ? 77 brigade on the case …?

    For the record “Ethiopian aslyum seeker Hadush Gerberslasie Kebatu, 38, was charged with a number of sexual offences. “

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    • Scroblene says:

      Morning Fed…

      Yet another outing for Liquid Len, Bob the Nob, Willy Wright and The Barking Slugs…

      Actually, there’s a rather sinister point in the song now…

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The BBC reported this case on Wednesday, stating the name, nationality and immigration status of the accused. The report is comprehensive and does not use any euphemisms such as ‘local man’ or ‘Epping man’. It quotes the comments of the prosecutor: ‘She said Mr Kebatu had “no ties to anyone or any place in the UK”, adding: “Immigration have confirmed he has only been in the UK since 29 June 2025.”

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vdeekq031o

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Ian – i take it the bbc buried it in ‘local news ‘ ….i assume he got bail …

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Epping: Man charged with sexual assault
        Man
        Man

        Overnight, Hadush Gerberslasie Kebatu, 38, of High Road, Epping, was charged with:
        Three counts of sexual assault;
        One count of inciting a girl to engage in sexual activity; and
        One count of harassment without violence.
        He appeared this afternoon, Thursday 10 July, at Colchester Magistrates’ Court and denied all offences.

        Published:
        11:13 10/07/2025
        https://www.essex.police.uk/news/essex/news/news/2025/july/epping-man-charged-with-sexual-assault/

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      • MarkyMark says:

        BBC TITLE “Man denies sexual assaults in town
        ” ACTUAL TITLE “Man of the world enjoys first world hospitality.”

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vdeekq031o

        “Man denies”
        “A man has denied”
        “Hadush Gerberslasie Kebatu, an asylum seeker from Ethiopia”
        “The 38-year-old defendant”
        “Mr Kebatu would face a trial within 56 days”
        56 Days? BUT BUT BUT ** Tory politician’s wife jailed for race hate post https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo
        “only been in the UK since 29 June 2025″
        ENDS ON A POSITIVE….””By restoring order to the system, we will be able to end the use of asylum hotels over time, and reduce the overall costs to the taxpayer of asylum accommodation.””

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  49. AsISeeIt says:

    Naturally the in-the-tank for Labour Daily Mirror celebrates: Historic ballot box reform… 16-year-olds to vote in next election – the reasoning, apparently: Keir Starmer said they deserve to ‘have a say over how their taxes are used’

    Where to even begin with the blatant canard that voters get to pick and choose where their money gets spent?

    Mr AsI wouldn’t voluntarily spend a dime on the Ukraine war, on Lockdowns, on the Net Zero boondoggle… the list goes on.

    One ponders for moment how much of our national tax take is actually contributed by teenagers – and it remains a ponderous subject since official figures are not exactly open and transparent on the matter, google-wise.

    Britain forced to pay EU under Labour’s Brexit reset (Telegraph)

    The giveaway freebie Metro frets over age-related anomalies: Critics pointed out young people will not be able to stand in the election… to marry, get a tattoo, play the National Lottery or buy alcohol

    How about that legal anonymity thing – so prevalent in so very many of our knife crime cases? And that ‘children’ legal terminology – is that set to go? Thought not.

    It’s all just part of the general dumbing-down of society, I guess.

    More easily influenced voters making less contribution – what could go wrong?

    In March to May 2025 there were 628,000 young people aged 16 to 24 who were unemployed, 31,000 more than the previous year. The unemployment rate for young people was 14.2%, up from 13.8% from the year before.

    There were 2.99 million young people aged 16 to 24 who were economically inactive, 32,000 more than the previous year. The inactivity rate for young people was 40.4%, down slightly from 40.6% from the year before.

    [House of Commons Library]

    Karaoke racism

    It’s a rap

    Axed Masterchef host accused… He sang Gold Digger, ‘used N-word twice’ (The Sun)

    Ratted out by…

    Richard Osman, ex-host on BBC quiz show Pointless, said Torode had used “the worst racial slur” (The Sun)

    Despite: Enabling the use of digital identities in the UK. We’re working to help people securely prove who they are without having to present physical documents. (Gov.UK)

    We come to realise these days that no personal information when committed to a digital system can ever be safe.

    Co-op boss confirms all 6.5m members had data stolen… chief executive of Co-op… Shirine Khoury-Haq told BBC Breakfast in her first public interview since the hack… caused havoc at M&S and the Co-op… and Harrods… Co-op announced on 30 April that it had been hacked, initially saying it would only have a “small impact” on its call centre and back office. But days later, after being contacted by the alleged hackers, BBC News revealed that customer and employee data had been accessed. Co-op then admitted the criminals had “accessed data relating to a significant number of our current and past members”. (BBC)

    Personal details of UK special forces and spies were included in Afghan data breach (BBC): Afghan data leak named British spies and soldiers… MoD sought fresh injunction to block revelation (Times) – and they’re going to keep Joe & Jane Public’s Digital ID data safe? I think not.

    Of course they’ll tell us: Digital ID cards would help to deter migrants from heading to UK, Harriet Harman says (Sky News) – to sweeten the bitter tasting pill for us peace-loving law-abiding Brits…

    Robocop

    And in just the same way the bitter pill is sweetened here: Police to use facial recognition cameras at Notting Hill Carnival (Daily Mail)

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – so hoodies will be back in fashion at the annual drive bye show in W11 this year …. Maybe Diane abbot will pop up on the facial recognition float – with a display of Palestinian flags …

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Axed Masterchef host accused… He sang Gold Digger, ‘used N-word twice’”
      ……………….. WOW ………………………………..

      Isle of Wight singer in ‘race’ arrest not charged
      Published 28 April 2011
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13218522
      A musician has been released without charge by police after his performance of the song Kung Fu Fighting at a bar caused an alleged racism row.

      Simon Ledger, of the Isle of Wight said he was singing the 1970s hit at the Driftwood bar, Sandown, on Sunday when a man of Chinese origin took offence.
      Police said the passer-by claimed he was then “subjected to racial abuse”.

      passer-by claimed he was then “subjected to racial abuse”.
      passer-by claimed he was then “subjected to racial abuse”.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      NO ARREST …. dag.png?strip=all&w=401

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  50. MarkyMark says:

    Give the 24K Afghans rifles and send them home to make Afghan great again with Islamic Shia Laws?!

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