Apparently, according to the BBC, Nichola Sturgeon is very worried that some parts of the UK might be treated differently in any Brexit deal. No, no BBC, she’s cock-a-hoop…she couldn’t wait to demand that Scotland be given special status when she heard that NI was to be ‘aligned’ with the EU. Just the usual hopeless ‘analysis’ from the BBC which doesn’t want you to know that May’s stitch-up was ‘Brexit means FA’. You can tell the extent to which Leave voters have been betrayed by the BBC’s, and Remainders’, delighted reaction to the deal…from constantly insisting a hopelessly weak and out of her depth May is about to be ejected from office they now tell us that ‘a lot of people think Theresa May has done a pretty good job today’…oh, and maybe we should stop seeing the EU as the enemy, it is after all seeking to help Brexit succeed and is facilitating this breakthrough…lol…the EU has done everything it can to obstruct Brexit and to make it impossible to succeed…and May has folded at their every demand….Emma Barnett wanted to know if Bertie Ahern was ‘concerned at what May will have compromised on to get the DUP on-board’!!! Not at all concerned at what May has humiliatingly compromised on to get the EU to allow Britain to leave…well, leave is not quite the term is it? Note the Irish say ‘no deal means the UK stays in the EU’ not WTO rules and a buccaneering Britain…just a slave state paying through the nose for the ‘privilege’ of staying under the EU jackboot.
The BBC’s narrative is completely false and misleading…the EU is not out to help and May has totally undermined Britain’s position and has given away every advantage we had….agreeing in the end to that infamous ‘soft Brexit’…ie no Brexit.
The issue surfaced again this month when the President retweeted three inflammatory videos from a British far-right group whose authenticity was subsequently challenged.
The videos were real and even the one that was supposedly not of an immigrant was in fact of the violent offspring of immigrants to Holland…so when they say he was ‘born in the Netherlands’, well yes, but not assimilated….which is the point.
.@JackieTeale is my first guest this morning on my @bbc5live programme. It’s her first broadcast interview about what it’s like when fake news is spread about you by popular forces…. https://t.co/aK6DxGiI4Y
Emma Barnett continues in this vein today as she spoke of Trump’s ‘Muslim ban’ which as we know is not a ban on Muslims but on people from ‘countries of concern’ [as defined by the sainted Obama] which just happen to be Muslim. [and why no concern about all those Muslim countries that ban Israelis and people wth Israeli stamps in their passports from travelling?] She did this as she brought to our attention a story about fake news….it concerned, guess who….Trump, the Daily Mail, Katy Hopkins and the ‘victim’, Jackie Teale, a right-on teacher who ticks every box that you might expect. Like the way she describes the Mail as ‘popular forces’….trying to create an idea that it is somehow rather sinister. And as you will see what the Mail produced was not fake news but a mistaken belief….not a deliberate attempt to deceive people…unlike Barnett’s interpretation of events which is fake news…ironically.
Teale went on the march against Trump waving a placard which was produced in class by some of her pupils in lessons about propaganda and how to protest…she claims she in no way influenced how the children thought, and she did not take any children on the march with her. Hopkins in the Mail apparently claimed she did and the Mail had to apologise and pay out.
Somehow I cannot imagine that Trump was not demonised by Teale and ideas placed in the kids’ heads judging by everything Teale says and does…though of course she denies it and Barnett did not challenge her at all on this.
Take a look at Hopkins’ article [post correction] about teachers brainwashing kids and see if there is a problem…think you might agree with her…but oddly the brainwashing of kids with ‘fake news’ wasn’t Barnett’s concern. Attacking the Mail and Hopkins was…however was the Mail’s story ‘fake news’ or just an error as it mistakenly believed Teale took the kids on the march? The BBC makes many ‘mistakes’ …are these to be categorised as ‘fake news’ each and very time? Why no interest from Barnett?
Date: 06.10.2016 Last updated: 05.12.2017 at 16.36
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And why not investigate real fake news such as the BBC’s determined, and false, attempt to label Lord McAlpine a paedophile, or Cliff Richard, or indeed the BBC claim that a Polish man was killed in Harlow as a result of a racist attack #duetoBrexit….and the BBC’s demonisation of all Leave voters as racists? The vilification of Thatcher, the attempts to smear Farage as a far-right Nazi along with anyone who supports UKIP such as councillor Rozanne Duncan who was absolutely crucified and pilloried for months by the BBC which smeared her, quite wrongly, as a racist. Then there’s the BBC’s reporting on Trump, Israel, immigration, Islam, Brexit, the NHS, climate change…well you name it the BBC can’t be trusted to report accurately and truthfully on it.
Funny how Barnett and Co can miss what’s right under their noses and instead target everytime, all the time, Trump, the Mail, Brexiteers and anyone on the Right.
Here’s Iain Dale correcting what is the BBC’s anti-Brexit narrative about EU staff fleeing the NHS due to Brexit:
One of the failures of those who support Brexit is to expose the lies of those who continue to bang the Remain drum. We keep being told that EU nationals are all going home. As I write this, Sky’s Adam Boulton is interviewing Theresa Villers, and has asked her how we can build more houses if all the EU builders are leaving the country.
Just for the record, a week ago the ONS announced that there are now 2.38 million EU nationals working in the UK, a rise of 112,000 on a year ago. Don’t believe me? Click on this link.
Over the last year, we’ve also constantly been told that doctors and nurses from the EU are flooding out of the NHS, and going back to their home nations. It’s become a narrative which has been accepted all across the media. My LBC colleague, James O’Brien, speaks of little else. And yet it’s total bollocks. It is a lie. The latest figures show that there are actually more EU doctors in the NHS a year on from the referendum than there were on June 23 2016. Just for the record, here are the figures:
Doctors in the NHS June 2016 – 9,695
Doctors in the NHS June 2017 – 10,136
Registrars June 2016 – 3,190
Registrars June 2017 – 3,215
Trainee doctors June 2016 – 779
Trainee doctors June 2017 – 950
Midwives June 2016 – 1,220
Midwives June 2017 – 1,247
Ambulance staff June 2016 – 250
Ambulance staff June 2017 – 386
Scientific, therapeutic, technical staff June 2016 – 6,112
Scientific, therapeutic, technical staff June 2016 – 6,957
Nurses and health visitors June 2016 – 20,907
Nurses and health visitors June 2016 – 20,618
So, yes a very slight decline of 1.38 per cent in the number of nurses, but not overall statistically very significant. If you add all those figures up you find…
Total number of EU nationals in the NHS in June 2016 – 42,153
Total number of EU nationals in the NHS in June 2017 – 43,509
So, a 3.2 per cent rise over a year. And in case you think I have made these figures up, they were quoted in The Spectator and come from NHS Digitial.
Similarly, people like Michael White tweet that the trade gap has widened since we voted to leave the EU. A simple look at ONS figures shows this is not true.
2015 Q4- 33, 681 billion.
2016 Q1 – 31,169 billion.
2016 Q2 – 28,440 billion.
2016 Q3 – 33,034 billion.
2016 Q4 – 22,812 billion.
2017 Q1 – 22,256 billion.
2017 Q2 – 23,182 billion.
We keep being told that it’s the Brexiteers who are guilty of telling ‘porkies’ with the red bus being cited constantly, but those who put the public case for Brexit need to be fully aware of the lies that are being told on the other side, and be prepared to expose them whenever they are able to.
It can’t be a fact because I can just as easily say, “we shouldn’t change our thinking” and there’s no way to verify the truth of either statement. But I thought the BBC didn’t offer opinions?
Interesting explanation from the BBC of the BBC’s sinister and machiavellian attempt to brainwash schoolkids……note this is just another way to peddle the BBC’s own toxic messages about Trump whom they declare is falsely claiming the media is ‘fake news’ and is weaponising the term for his own illegitimate purposes, about ‘ fake news spikes around big news events, such as plebiscites that are too close to call.’.…ie Brexit and Trump’s election….
Nobody knows how big a problem fake news is, and many of those who talk about it have an incentive to inflate the threat.
As I’ve written before, for many people, fake news is a useful enemy. For Donald Trump, fake news is synonymous with a hostile media. By attacking the “fake news media”, Trump can motivate his base, obstruct scrutiny of his policies, and potentially undermine his opponents.
For ambitious politicians keen to flaunt their digital knowledge and boost their profile, the fake news phenomenon is a handy option.
For digital firms keen to display a social conscience, fake news provides an opportunity to clarify their purpose – “we’re technology companies, not media companies” – while showing that they do care, really, about democracy – even if their platforms are zones in which foreign autocrats interfere in domestic matters.
And for the mainstream media, which is suffering from a crisis of trust, seeing traditional business models turn into air, and completely failed to see the big stories of the past decade coming, the comparison with fake news is a way of making the case for professional journalists who go after the truth.
This is the context in which to see the BBC’s plans to tackle fake and false news through a new initiative, in which online mentoring and school visits (including from me) promote better judgement about misinformation online.
To resist them[the news fakers] requires knowledge (of the actual state of the world), intellectual tools (scrutiny to determine truth from falsehood), and courage (to call out liars).
This trinity, when combined, produces news literacy – and it is this, rather than fake news itself, that the BBC’s new initiative is aiming to promote.
Combating it requires an as yet unclear combination of action from governments, technology companies, and civil society more broadly.
It is within the last of these that this BBC initiative sits; and as the current trends in news accelerate, toward news that is more mobile, more social, and more partisan, I suspect the case for helping teenagers distinguish truth from falsehood will grow, even if – indeed especially if – believing there is such a thing as the truth becomes ever less fashionable.
It’s just a complete lie that ‘truth’ has become ever less fashionable…as if it ever was fashionable in the media. You didn’t see the BBC complaining when the Sun and the Times were supporting Labour with stories planted by Labour spinners such as Campbell and Baldwin. The idea that ‘echo chambers’ are new is total nonsense invented by the BBC to create alarm and fear about its biggest rival for news…the social media. People have always been in echo chambers that reinforce their ‘prejudices’…..how many vote as their fathers voted, how many only read a certain paper and how many would only vote for one party come what may…just look at the BBC now….so desperate to get a Labour government that they are prepared to hold their noses and cheerlead for someone who is basically a terrorist [ I make no distinction between those who support the use of violence and the ones who actually do it] and a marxist who would wreck the economy and create an incredibly violent and divided nation. The BBC bubble is the biggest echo chamber around.
To hear that the BBC will be sending teams of their own journalists into schools to teach children how to spot fake news is somewhat amusing if not just a little terrifying…it’s like sending Jimmy Savile into schools to teach the children how to spot a paedophile.
It’s not difficult kids…if it has ‘BBC’ on it then it’s a good chance of being fake news.
The BBC is launching a new scheme to help young people identify real news and filter out fake or false information.
The project is targeted at secondary schools and sixth forms across the UK.
From March, up to 1,000 schools will be offered mentoring in class and online to help them spot so-called fake news.
Ironically the BBC uses its announcement to spread fake, anti-Trump, news…
The term “fake news” was popularised by Donald Trump during his presidential election campaign last year.
He used the term to denigrate the output of the traditional news media, although it is also used to describe news stories that achieve significant traction despite being palpably false.
5 Live decided to explore the issue today and we had the intelligent, impartial, even-tempered Nihal to guide through the process. LOL. A man so unsuited to the job it is laughable. For instance when a listener texted in that the BBC was as guilty of spreading fake news as anyone Nihal responded with derision and mockery in an aggressive and rude manner…he shouted out ‘bingo!’ as he received the message clearly indicating his attitude to criticism of the BBC. The texter said the BBC was the last place he would look for the truth and always used other media sources for his news. Nihal snapped at him and told him ‘good luck with that…see how you get on’ as if no one can survive without the BBC feeding them its lies.
An irony that on a programme about fake news and echo chambers Nihal is unprepared to listen to other views and will only hear what he wants to hear. But then that is Nihal, bigoted, racist and aggressively unpleasant….he likes to announce that Britain is a nastier and more racist place since Brexit….just one of the BBC’s favourite lies, along with ‘Islam is the religion of peace’, that they use to attack their opponents. Nihal went on to tell us that ‘truth’ and ‘facts’ are not the same…there is a problem with ‘truth’. No there is a problem with the BBC and its alternate facts.
Trump in no way invented nor popularised the term fake news…..it has been around for over a hundred years and the left-wing media used it extensively to attack Trump…Trump was not ‘denigrating’ news media but accurately describing their output. The BBC et al actually created the biggest bit of fake news….the myth of the ‘post-truth era’. This is a deliberate attempt to shape the narrative in their own interest by claiming that only since Trump and Brexit has news become fake….see the title to the BBC video above….’Fake news and post-truth: How th eworld changed in 2016′. Except of course it didn’t change…or not at least in how it is reported….the media has always been completely untrustworthy. What did change was Brexit and Trump….and the BBC hates that and shapes its news to paint both in as damaging a light as possible….ie fake news.
Look at the BBC video above when the BBC’s Allan Little claims there are now two Britains each with their own parallel truths as he shows the Boris Bus on screen and tells us that Leave promised us £350 million per week for the NHS. This is post-truth politics he ridiculously claims…..however even if the bus did say what he claims, and it didn’t, politicians have been lying to us for, well, for ever. That claim of a post-truth politics is fake news itself, an invented phantom bogeyman to scare people into doubting Brexit and Trump’s victorys were legitimate. The BBC claims that this new ‘post-truth’ era is a danger to democracy…..the only danger to democracy is a massively powerful media organisation that is out of control and which is spreading misleading and false information about people and events it does not like. Here you can see the BBC attacking Breitbart with false claims that it used a term, ‘Luegenpresse’ [lying press], that the BBC says was first used by the Nazis….unfortunately the term was coined long before the Nazis and is still in use in Germany today by the media there….including the left-wing media. Just another classic attempt by the BBC to smear a political opponent with the ‘Nazi’ or Far-Right tag.
And the BBC can’t really claim that the term is not very apt in relation to its own output…Allan Little’s video above just one example of the lies and attempts to create the narrative that no one can be trusted except the BBC.
Lord Hall Hall says…
“By sharing our journalistic expertise, we want to give young people the skills and awareness they need to be confident about identifying the real news stories, and calling out the fakes.”
Get ’em young. That’s the BBC plan…a somewhat sinister one that aims to position the BBC as the arbiter of truth and, in the eyes of a future generation, as the only trusted voice which they can rely upon for their news about the world. This is not unlike the Nazis and Communists who always aimed to recruit and indoctrinate, brainwash, the young so that they would grow up into obedient and unthinking drones.
It is surprising that the government should allow the BBC to do this. It is clearly an exercise in extending the BBC’s own influence and grip on the national consciousness and on the political discourse allowing it in future to have a powerful and dominant impact on what people see and hear in the news and thus potentially controlling how they perceive the world and then their reactions…such as how they vote. This is a power grab by the BBC in a most sinister way, training, grooming, children to believe only one way of thinking is correct.
Here’s an interesting slip of the tongue from Buzzfeed: Those Labour supporting media cheerleaders…like the BBC…
In short, Corbyn – like Donald Trump – needed his own media cheerleaders. Their rise has also resulted in a deep-seated distrust of supposedly Labour-supporting organisations such as the New Statesman – which was recently picketed over its anti-Corbyn stance – and the BBC, which until relatively recently was used to being under fire from the likes of the Daily Mail for being too left-wing.
No coincidence the NUJ was briefing Labour that the BBC needed its protection:
NUJ submission to the Labour Party consultation on fake news February 2017
Establish funding arrangements to ensure the future of the BBC as one of the world’s most respected and comprehensive news organisations
The role of the BBC as the bulwark that supports the UK’s broadcast media cannot be overstated. It is training academy, standard setter and commissioning hub for the industry, as well as being among the world’s most important media organisations and public service broadcasters. Tempting as many find it to find fault with aspects of its output, this should never detract from its importance, nor the need to ensure that it retains this vital role.
The BBC is also the UK’s most-trusted source of newsiv and is considered fair and impartial by the overwhelming majority of people in the UK. As such it is an exemplar of fair and balanced journalism (periodic issues notwithstanding).
James O’Brien spreading ‘fake news’ via the BBC is a must-watch
The row about ‘fake news’ and the ‘crooked media’ appears to be ongoing. And every time the BBC and other mainstream media mention it they present themselves solely as the victims of such phenomena.
How then can they have an article which is entitled Prime Minister’s Questions: The verdict, featuring videos of BBC presenters giving their opinions verdicts?
"It was a time for forensic questioning" says @afneil on #pmqs but Mr Corbyn gave "a series of rather short speeches, a couple of which did not ended in any kind of question at all" #bbcdppic.twitter.com/ZXj9kbBNJo
— BBC Daily Politics and Sunday Politics (@daily_politics) December 6, 2017
I’m thoroughly disgusted that the BBC’s idea of education and entertainment almost always includes an underlying political element.
The latest attempt is Invasion! with Sam Willis which combats “the idea that we Britons are somehow unique”; they barely try to hide the support for mass immigration here. The argument is basically: “Britain historically had a lot of immigration, so you shouldn’t oppose further immigration” which is about as valid an argument as, “you used to wear a nappy, so you shouldn’t oppose wearing one now”.
According to Willis, claiming that we are “somehow unique” is a “myth” spread by people like Churchill, who claimed that we are an “island race”. Perhaps he should read Churchill’s ‘Birth of Britain’, because Churchill never supported such a silly myth, and I seriously doubt that anyone ever did. It’s obvious to anyone that we have a lot in common with people in many other places, in many important ways. That isn’t incompatible with a national identity. Willis’ myth itself is a myth, invented to mock people who oppose mass immigration. All the old history books speak at length about Roman, Norman, Celtic, Neolithic, Anglo-Saxon, and Viking invasions. In some cases they even over-emphasise the impact of these events, the exact opposite of the “myth” the stupid British racist public are supposed to believe.
Churchill on the Bronze Age
Britain…as a whole was a backward country by comparison with the
Continent; primitive in its civilisation, stagnant and passive in its life, and
receiving most of what progress it enjoyed through invasion and importation
from overseas.
The BBC has stated in its news bulletins that the Manchester bomb attack could have been stopped. In the web report they quote from a report saying that the attack coud have been stopped if… “the cards fallen differently.”
A major review of whether MI5 could have stopped any of 2017’s terrorism attacks has revealed details of opportunities that, had they been followed through, might have stopped two of them.
“MI5 … came by intelligence [on Abedi] in the months before the attack which, had its true significance been properly understood, would have caused an investigation into him to be opened.”
Those two pieces of undisclosed intelligence were thought to relate to crime, rather than terrorism.
Was this a missed opportunity? MI5 concluded that the intelligence was insufficient. But Mr Anderson’s review states: “It is conceivable that the Manchester attack… might have been averted had the cards fallen differently.”
Firstly that’s a totally meaningless statement…’if’ I had a time machine I could go back in time and fix everything with the knowledge I have now….if the cards had fallen differently is a nonsense statement…of course if things had been different…but they weren’t. Second the BBC misses out what was said before and after that claim.
Before we get to that let’s quote some more from the report, something of interest to do with the British people’s response….
The public response – like that of the police who reacted promptly to each attack – was impressive. Manchester came together in a moving demonstration of solidarity. The international headline which described London as “reeling” missed the mark: resilient, or resolute, would have been closer. Rather than divide the country, these shocking crimes united decent people of all races and religions in sympathy for the victims and condemnation for the attackers. Post-attack hate crimes, unacceptable though they are, cannot obscure this greater truth.
The BBC prefers to say that the British response was a wave of anti-Muslim hatred and a rising tide of ‘Islamophobic’ attacks. I might suggest the people of this country have been incredibly tolerant and patient with the Muslim community considering what has happened over the last 25 years.
But back to ‘they could have stopped it’……
The report says…‘in a free society and against a worsening threat background, it is not realistic to expect everything to be stopped.’
And in relation to the Manchester attack in particular….
Salman Abedi (Manchester) Abedi: summary Like Khalid Masood (but 30 years younger), Salman Abedi was a closed SOI at the time of his attack, and so not under active investigation. MI5 nonetheless came by intelligence in the months before the attack which, had its true significance been properly understood, would have caused an investigation into him to be opened. It is unknowable whether such an investigation would have allowed Abedi’s plans to be pre-empted and thwarted: MI5 assesses that it would not.
So completely unknowable if the attack could have been stopped….if only things had been different…well yes.
That phrase ‘had the cards fallen differently‘ was in fact part of a paragraph praising MI5 and the police whose systems were working well….and is a rather strange and casual line as it suggests a perfect knowledge of things they didn’t know and is a throwaway comment based more on hope than fact….
Nor could it be said of the attacks under review, save in the case of Finsbury Park, that MI5 and the police were entirely blindsided. Khalid Masood (Westminster) and Salman Abedi (Manchester) had both been subjects of interest, and Khuram Butt (London Bridge) remained under active investigation. Substantial and appropriate coverage was in place around key individuals, and mechanisms designed to assess risk were working as intended. MI5 and CT Policing got a great deal right: particularly in the case of Manchester, they could have succeeded had the cards fallen differently.
The report goes on to admit that this is purely the opinion of one man using knowledge gained after the event against the judgement of MI5’s professional opinion….The author claims he ‘offers no view’ but then strangely suggests it is possible MI5 could have stopped the atatck but we can’t know because that is pure speculation based upon a high degree of inherent uncertainty…in other words he doesn’t have a clue but is hedging his bets with some mealy mouthed words…
In relation to the question of whether the Manchester attack could or should have been stopped (2.37 and 3.15 above), I offer no view on whether the re-opening of an investigation into Salman Abedi in early 2017 would, as MI5 concludes “on the clear balance of professional opinion”, have been unlikely to result in the pre-emption of the gathering plot. While that may be right, I prefer to emphasise my agreement with the other point made in this connection: that “there is a high degree of inherent uncertainty in speculating as to what might or might not have been discovered”.
We are also told how difficult MI5’s job is…and yet the report can claim maybe, possibly, if only, had things been different….the attack could have been stopped….
The Director General of MI5 recently described the work of his staff in the following terms: “They are constantly making tough professional judgments based on fragments of intelligence: pin pricks of light against a dark and shifting canvas.”
After immersing myself in the minutiae of these investigations, that strikes me as an accurate description of MI5’s counter-terrorism work. The reason why the judgements can be “tough” is that they are made against a background of imperfect information, and yet frequently require staff to choose which of a number of current and potentially deadly threats is most deserving of scarce investigative resource.
So pretty much nonsense to suggest the Manchester attack could have been stopped. The BBC of course grabs the headline that makes the most sensation…entirely irresponsible as it creates anger amongst victims and their families and expectations that can never be fulfilled…..as the report says…
‘in a free society and against a worsening threat background, it is not realistic to expect everything to be stopped.’
Hitler could have been stopped ‘had the cards fallen differently’.…but they didn’t. And of course the BBC played its part in that banning Churchill and his anti-Hitler speeches from the airwaves in case he ‘offended’ the Germans. Sounds very familiar today.
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