The BBC can’t help itself….it just keeps on rolling with the anti-Western, anti-British narrative that serves up the endless stream of recruits to the Jihadi cause.
Jeremy Bowen was at it recently, blaming ‘duplicitous British’ actions after WWI for causing all the problems in the Middle East, and by extension the world, today…and of course the ‘catastrophic’ Iraq War gets a mention.
Humphrys blamed the intervention in Libya for Manchester, failing to mention it was a UN operation and that it carried out in order to stop a massacre [and yet the BBC goes on about Srebrenica and the non-intervention there]…and that if it hadn’t been done Libya would be far worse than it is now.
Then we have the long term BBC criticism of Prevent which we are told is failing, toxic brand as it stigmatises Muslims and alienates them. Never mind that narrative is driven by Muslim extremists who may have an interest in undermining a counter-radicalisation and terrorism programme.
Emma Barnett had on Labour’s Jackie Smith who was also of the opinion that Prevent was failing and that it was the government’s fault…she also said that Manchester was May’s fault as 20,000 police have been lost under the Tories and thus we don’t have the manpower to tackle the threat….blood on her hands! Kind of forgetting that Labour failed to stop 7/7 when they had more police officers…and fails to recognise that the government has ploughed billions into more intelligence and security staff and resources. Barnett went along with this ‘analysis’ and then added her own…apparently Brexit also caused Manchester….May has been so distracted by Brexit that she took her eye off the ball…and bang!!!! Blood on her hands. Perhaps she suggested, Amber Rudd should resign.
Did seem like a Labour-fest today…Burnham, Blunkett and Smith all getting plenty of airtime and using it to campaign in this campaign down-time…so much for respect.
Who needs all those Islamic State social media sites pumping out Jihadi propaganda when you’ve got the BBC doing it for you?
If arrests are being made every day, if plots, radicalisation and attempts to head off to Syria are prevented every day, if bombs went off during Labour’s time in office…how is it ‘Prevent’ has failed and recent police cuts are to blame for the Manchester bomb? How can a man who fought Gaddafi, his family given sanctuary in Britain, a Britain that helped get rid of Gaddafi, turn on Britain because, he says, it doesn’t help Muslims?
I have said before that 5 Live’s Emma Barnett could provide this site with enough material on her own to keep it going for years without any other references to BBC bias elsewhere. Is it bias though or just ignorance combined with a overhelming sense of self-confidence and belief in her own opinion?…a dangerous mixture. Rather than be allowed to cover serious news issues such as terrorism perhaps she should stick to the type of thing she has done recently such as a piece on a ‘Vagina Museum’…yep…you read that right. Then again she herself could be an exhibit…after all a talking vagina must be quite a rarity. I’d pay to see it.
On Wednesday she went all out for an attack on the Prevent programme which apparently is failing and toxic to all decent Muslims. Barnett wanted to know how we deal with terrorism, how we, er, prevent it and radicalisation.
Of course knowing what the problem is in the first place would help. Barnett and Co know what that is.
It’s definitely not anything religious…it is instead a Society problem…Muslims have no hope, no future, discriminated against and marginalised….Abedi was a ‘a typical disaffected youth who was very unhappy’. It is not one community’s fault or responsibility..it’s a British problem. There is no one thing that makes someone a [er…Muslim] terrorist…there are many ‘pull factors’ such as a lust for adventure and a solution for your personal problems.
The solution is not Prevent, which has failed…we must engage the community, the messenger must be accepted and credible in the community…the youth must be empowered to…er…challenge authority…they must not feel excluded.
We need a better understanding of their motivation.
As you can see a complete waste of time and a refusal to discuss the real problem, the real motivation behind the radicalisation, the one ‘pull factor’ that excites and unites these radicals and terrorists….Islam. They all identify as ‘Muslim’ and Abedi came from a religious family that was already itself radicalised, and he himself became more religious and came to believe Muslims were under attack by the West and he wanted revenge. Right there you have the motivation and the mindset that makes a person vulnerable to radicalisation….Islam commands Muslims to defend other Muslims…therefore if they are told Muslims are under attack many will answer the call to arms…Jihad. And who has been spreading the narrative that Muslims are under attack? Muslim radicals of course but also the likes of the BBC which has fed Muslims the lie that ever since the Crusades Muslims have been the victims of Christian and Western violence and oppression….all their problems flow out of the West.
The BBC must take the blame for much of the radicalisation of so many muslims, especially British ones.
Thursday we had a different approach. Perhaps the BBC had a few calls complaining about the one-sided, anti-Prevent narrative being spun by the BBC the day before [a narrative the BBC has kept up for a long time now]. This time we had on some supporters of Prevent, one the brother-in-law of 7/7 bomber Muhammed Sidiq Khan, Ahmed Patel [see above video], and counter radicalisation worker, Sara Khan. Naturally they didn’t get as sympathetic and uncritical a platform as those who branded Prevent ‘Toxic’ did.
Patel gave an excoriating run down of what is both the extremist and the BBC’s narrative about Muslim victimhood, foreign policy and the Prevent programme. He supported prevent and thought it was working and that he was fed up with the ‘anti-Prevent brigade’, by which he meant the Muslim extremist groups, such as Cage, who were driving the false and dangerous narrative that Prevent was toxic, was targeting Muslims and set Muslims against each other as they were supposed to spy on each other. Interestingly he said that the ‘backlash’ against Muslims was legitimate…if there is a trend of attacks by Muslims on non-Muslims he suggested you could not blame British people for reacting against Muslims when they see these attacks on themselves. [Of course there has hardly been any serious anti-Muslim ‘backlash’…British people have been remarkably tolerant and peaceful under the most outrageous provocation]
He went on to say Muslims have a victim mentality and have bought into the false narrative about being under attack, a war on Islam and attacks on ‘Muslim lands’. Such narratives are creating a them and us mentality that shuts communities off from each other.
He also said that ‘islamophobia’ was not a word he liked…it was used to shut down debate and silence critics of Islamic terror.
Sara Khan then came on [11:39:40] and told of the death threats and threats of rape she receives from Muslims as she works on Prevent…..they want to shut down debate and shut down Prevent. Barnett interrupted to say that critics she had on her programme were not extremists [they were] and that Prevent isolates Muslims and is toxic….something has gone wrong she tells us.
Khan slapped her down saying that was lazy rhetoric and made a good case for Prevent and its success.
Barnett then dragged in another one of her ‘not radical’ anti-Prevent voices [11:50]…a Muslim academic specialising in terrorism and all that….Even Barnett came to realise as he spoke that he was ‘radical’ and yet she still said his narrative about British foreign policy was ‘fair enough’.
End of the day, despite all that, Barnett still came out with the claims that Prevent was failing, that something was wrong and that it alienated Muslims. Perhaps she should take some time out and listen to her own show and learn.
The Wall Street Journal tells us that Salman Abedi thought Muslims in Britain were ill-treated and that he became increasingly religious…
Abedi’s sister, Jomana Abedi, said her brother was kind and loving and that she was surprised by what he did this week. She said she thought he was driven by what he saw as injustices.
“I think he saw children—Muslim children—dying everywhere, and wanted revenge. He saw the explosives America drops on children in Syria, and he wanted revenge,” she said. “Whether he got that is between him and God.”
In May 2016, an 18-year-old friend of Salman Abedi’s, Abdul Wahab Hafidah, a Briton of Libyan descent, died after being run down by a car and then stabbed in Manchester. Six men and a 15-year-old boy are on trial in a Manchester court this month charged with murder in connection with the killing, which prosecutors have argued was gang-related. The defendants deny wrongdoing.
Abedi viewed the attack as a hate crime, the family friend said, and grew increasingly angry about what he considered ill-treatment of Muslims in Britain. “I remember Salman at his funeral vowing revenge,” the Abedi family friend said.
Abedi became increasingly religious, family members said, and interested in extremist groups. A cousin, who declined to be named, said Abedi’s parents worried he was headed toward violence.
Wonder where he got the idea that Muslims were ill-treated in Britain, one of the most Muslim friendly countries in the world apparently…and that is in comparison to ‘Muslim’ countries.
Contrast that with the BBC’s effort which misses out a couple of the crucial elements…his increasing devoutness and his antipathy towards Britain…..instead the BBC paints a picture of a concerned father trying to take his son away from bad influences…not Muslim extremists but gangs….
The BBC has been told by a Muslim community worker that members of the public called the police anti-terrorism hotline about Abedi’s extreme and violent views several years ago.
We don’t know how the police responded to these reported hotline calls – but we have also learnt that earlier this year, Abedi’s behaviour again raised concerns.
According to our sources, he told local people about the value of dying for a cause.
He also made hardline statements about suicide bombings and the conflict in Libya.
An Abedi family friend in Tripoli has told the BBC that Ramadan took his son out of the city fearing the “influence of gangsters and criminals.” Mr Abedi said he feared his son was becoming increasingly drawn into drugs and criminality after the death of one of his friends in nearby Moss Side.
The New York Times was one of the rags that launched a highly critical attack on Trump claiming [probably falsely] that he had disclosed top secret intelligence from another country without permission thus putting operations at risk as well as further co-operation.
In testimony before the House Intelligence Committee, former CIA Director John Brennan refused to answer a question in an unclassified setting about whether the Russians possess damaging information on Hillary Clinton that was not revealed during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Brennan further testified that, in his assessment, the Russians favored Donald Trump over Clinton largely because they despised Clinton and would generally prefer dealing with a businessman.
This is a far cry from the unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that the Russians possessed damaging information on Trump. Brennan did not even imply that this was the case. Indeed, the discussion about the Russians potentially holding negative information on a politician centered around Clinton.
Brennan’s assessment of Russia’s thinking is shared by Comey, who earlier this month confirmed in testimony that the basis for the intelligence community’s assessment that Putin allegedly wanted Trump in office was not because the billionaire was, as Sen. Al Franken claimed during that hearing without citing any evidence, “ensnared in” Russia’s “web of patronage.”
Instead, Comey provided two primary reasons for Russia allegedly favoring Trump over Clinton during the 2016 presidential race.
One reason, according to Comey, was that Putin “hated” Clinton and would have favored any Republican opponent. The second reason, Comey explained, was that Putin made an assessment that it would be easier to make a deal with a businessman than someone from the political class.
And remember…Comey said Trump himself was not under investigation…..probably because they think the russians do not have compromising information on Trump…and thus the ‘dodgy dossier’ is just that…dodgy….a creative pile of horse crap invented by a British ex-MI6 agent in an attempt to influence the election in favour of Clinton…but no one would say anything about that foreign interference in American Democracy…and certainy not the BBC.
Burnham was on the Today show this morning, admirably he refused to be drawn into making a political statement despite Mishal Husain trying to coerce him to do so. However that’s where the good news ended as he went into a little rant about the bomber not being Muslim and that he didn’t represent the Muslim community. Trouble is the bomber was a Muslim and his family was strongly religious…the bomber as a youth learnt the Koran by heart. His family were also it seems very much into Jihad. And we know that ISIS is nothing if not ‘Islamic’, indeed it is history brought to life as it pretty much replicates Muhammed’s own blitz across the Middle East…not to mention some of his less savoury dealings with those who opposed him. As for representing the Muslim community?….maybe they do not like his methods but they certainly back what are his likely politics…let me guess…problems with British foreign policy [despite removing from power Gaddafi who drove his family from Libya], problems with Western culture, rampant Islamophobia and Israel…all the usual narratives that are the staple fare of the Muslim ‘dinner table’, Muslim ‘social media’, and peddled by the BBC as well.
Burnham has a long history himself, a history of being a useful idiot for Muslim extremists as he worked to close down the Prevent anti-radicalisation programme and suggested Muslims could not trust the police….so it comes as a surprise to see him now telling us how wonderful the police are in response to the Manchester bomb…
I want to thank the hundreds of police, fire and ambulance staff who worked throughout the night in the most difficult circumstances imaginable.
This was Burnham not so long ago telling us Prevent targets Muslims, it encourages Islamophobia and drives Muslims into the hands of the extremists…
“If governments are doing things to almost legitimise things in some way by saying this community does need to be treated differently, it does need to be watched at a local level, because there’s danger here in terms of behaviour, that is highly problematic.”
Has he changed his mind? I wonder if he thinks we should be watching anyone in particular now as so many young people lie dead because of fools like him?
Something of an irony, a sick one perhaps, that he expresses so much sorrow at the bomb when he has done so much to hinder the security services…
After our darkest of nights, Manchester is today waking up to the most difficult of dawns. It’s hard to believe what has happened here in the last few hours and to put into words the shock, anger and hurt that we feel today.
These were children, young people and their families that those responsible chose to terrorise and kill. This was an evil act. Our first thoughts are with the families of those killed and injured. And we will do whatever we can to support them.
A senior Labour MP vying to be the first elected mayor of Greater Manchester has shared a platform with a Muslim pressure group accused of being led by “extremists”, after implying Muslims should not work with police.
Andy Burnham, a former cabinet minister, appeared at a mayoral hustings organised by the “anti-Islamophobia” group Muslim Engagement and Development (MEND) on Saturday, The Timesreports.
MEND regularly works with members of CAGE, which has supported terrorists and called Jihadi John a “beautiful” man. The group is led by Azad Ali, an Islamist who lost a libel battle with a newspaper that said he was “a hardline Islamic extremist who supports the killing of British and American soldiers in Iraq by fellow Muslims as justified”.
MEND director Mr. Ali has also written on his blog of his “love” for Anwar al-Awlaki, the al-Qaeda cleric closely linked to terrorist plots including the September 11 attacks, and described al-Qaeda as a “myth”.
Andy Burnham has come out with some pretty hysterical claims about Prevent, the Government’s counter-terror strategy. At a time when it has emerged that MI6 will be recruiting around 1000 new spies in light of the grave “lifetime threat” ISIS poses to our national security, this threat is obvious to most of us, but not to our shadow Home Secretary of all people.
In June this year, he called for Prevent to be scrapped and even compared the strategy – a strategy operating in the non-criminal space and which offers support to those most vulnerable to radicalisation – to “today’s equivalent of internment in Northern Ireland.”
The ridiculous and frenzied claims don’t end there. Burnham, giving Islamist anti-Prevent activists the best gift one could give, has even claimed that it is Prevent which “risks creating the very conditions for it (extremism) to flourish.” Let’s take a moment to think about that. A strategy which has successfully stopped people from travelling to Syria, including children, which has generated ISIL counter-narrative videos viewed millions of times, is what, Burnham is suggesting, is causing extremism to flourish in the UK. It’s not ISIS propaganda, or British pro-ISIS fanboys tweeting day in day out or even the plethora of extremist preachers operating on our campuses and communities as Harry’s Place has long evidenced that is causing extremism according to Burnham. No it is Prevent.
Conflating anti-Muslim hate crime with a strategy which seeks to counter radicalisation, Burnham now also claims Prevent “risks legitimising or inspiring Islamophobic hate crime” as opposed to the acts of Islamist terrorists which Prevent seeks to deter.
Good though to see him grandstanding and telling us how terrible this bombing and mass murder is…of course he is in good company in a BBC studio, the BBC which has also done so much to promote the idea that Prevent is ‘toxic’ and targeting Muslims…as if that were somehow wrong…‘not all Muslims are terrorists but’...Mishal Husain didn’t think it necessary to challenge him on his claims.
Which groups were the original driving force behind the campaign to attack Prevent? It was Muslim extremist groups like Cage who for very obvious reasons wanted to shut down a programme that was designed to stop radicalisation and terrorism. Why did the BBC think for one moment that promoting that narrative would be a good idea? It is also notable that Baroness Warsi, the one who wanted to disarm Israel and arm the terrrorists of Hamas, was a very vocal opponent of Prevent…why would that be?
Useful idiots promoting Muslim extremist’s propaganda…one the Mayor of Greater Manchester, the other one of the most influential and powerful media organisations in the world. No wonder people vote for the likes of Trump.
True to form, the BBC Today programme was busy this morning making it clear that the real danger from the Jihad bombing of Manchester arena is — yes, Islamophobia. They had an interview with a Muslim teacher from a girl’s school (sic) who warned us that one of her pupils (in Islamic veil) had been…shouted at! Oh no. Never mind 22 dead kids and their parents – no, the REAL story here is how Muslims are victims. The BBC makes me nauseous.
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