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David Dimbleby presents this week’s show from York. On the panel are former Conservative MP Louise Mensch, economist Ruth Lea, ‘Conservative’ cameronian stooge and education secretary Nicky Morgan MP, Leave campaigner and former Labour minister Tom Harris, Labour’s former home secretary Alan Johnson MP and has been musician and foreign Remain campaigner Bob Geldof. Not that it’s any of his business.

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“No. No. No”

“No. No. No”

 

Thatcher signed up to the Single Market but her speech in Bruges in 1988 sets out her stall…a stall that sounds remarkably like the Brexit one……a reformed, decentralised EU of independent sovereign states celebrating their Christian heritage…

My first guiding principle is this: willing and active cooperation between independent sovereign states is the best way to build a successful European Community.

To try to suppress nationhood and concentrate power at the centre of a European conglomerate would be highly damaging and would jeopardise the objectives we seek to achieve.

Europe will be stronger precisely because it has France as France, Spain as Spain, Britain as Britain, each with its own customs, traditions and identity. It would be folly to try to fit them into some sort of identikit European personality.

I want to see us work more closely on the things we can do better together than alone.

Europe is stronger when we do so, whether it be in trade, in defence or in our relations with the rest of the world.

But working more closely together does not require power to be centralised in Brussels or decisions to be taken by an appointed bureaucracy.

Indeed, it is ironic that just when those countries such as the Soviet Union, which have tried to run everything from the centre, are learning that success depends on dispersing power and decisions away from the centre, there are some in the Community who seem to want to move in the opposite direction.

We have not successfully rolled back the frontiers of the state in Britain, only to see them re-imposed at a European level with a European super-state exercising a new dominance from Brussels.

Certainly we want to see Europe more united and with a greater sense of common purpose.

But it must be in a way which preserves the different traditions, parliamentary powers and sense of national pride in one’s own country; for these have been the source of Europe’s vitality through the centuries.

It is a matter of plain common sense that we cannot totally abolish frontier controls if we are also to protect our citizens from crime and stop the movement of drugs, of terrorists and of illegal immigrants.

Europe must continue to maintain a sure defence through NATO.

There can be no question of relaxing our efforts, even though it means taking difficult decisions and meeting heavy costs. 

It is to NATO that we owe the peace that has been maintained over 40 years.

Let Europe be a family of nations, understanding each other better, appreciating each other more, doing more together but relishing our national identity no less than our common European endeavour.

We in Britain are rightly proud of the way in which, since Magna Carta in the year 1215, we have pioneered and developed representative institutions to stand as bastions of freedom.

And proud too of the way in which for centuries Britain was a home for people from the rest of Europe who sought sanctuary from tyranny.

But we know that without the European legacy of political ideas we could not have achieved as much as we did.

From classical and mediaeval thought we have borrowed that concept of the rule of law which marks out a civilised society from barbarism.

And on that idea of Christendom, to which the Rector referred—Christendom for long synonymous with Europe—with its recognition of the unique and spiritual nature of the individual, on that idea, we still base our belief in personal liberty and other human rights.

 

And remember Boris’ remark about the attempts over the millenia by single powers to rule Europe and the way he was attacked……well he was just echoing Thatcher…

We British have in a very special way contributed to Europe.

Over the centuries we have fought to prevent Europe from falling under the dominance of a single power.

 

 

 

Ecce Homo

 

Why does the BBC keep pushing the lies?  This might give us a clue as to the thinking behind it…

People in MI5 tell me that denying the connection between Islamism and terrorism derives from the belief that if you accept it, there’s no hope for a multicultural society in Britain: we would just have to recognise that part of the population is permanently liable to become terrorists.

The Great Betrayal: How Liberals Appease Islam

I must face the fact that there is a vast woozy mass of liberal-leftists who will never change, and would not fight back even if a bomb exploded in their own back yard.

I will not let supposed liberals forget that, by their own cowardice and lack of conviction, they have brought this dismal moment on themselves.

 

This was pinned to the top of Owen Jones’ Twitter feed yesterday……

Pinned Tweet

On Sky News last night, I realised how far some will go to ignore homophobia

Photo published for On Sky News last night, I realised how far some will go to ignore homophobia | Owen Jones

This is his latest Tweet at the time of writing….

talks to , & activist Noorulann Shahid about hate crimes in the LGBT community

It’s all about Owen Jones.

Curiously, for someone who is so outraged by the killings in Orlando he has not said a word about the French police officer and his wife who were slaughtered in front of their 3 year old child, live on Facebook, targeted by a Muslim terrorist for being  ‘police’ …..a ‘policephobic attack’  that has no connection to Islam perhaps?

French police officer and partner murdered in ‘odious terrorist attack’

The French government has denounced an “abject act of terrorism” after a man with a previous terrorist conviction carried out a gruesome knife murder of a police commander and his partner at their home outside Paris in the presence of their three-year-old son.

Larossi Abballa, a Frenchman previously convicted of taking part in a jihadi recruitment network and claiming allegiance to Islamic State, posted a video of the fatal attack on Facebook Live.

Perhaps if the police officer was bisexual Jones would be as animated about the murders as he is about Orlando….it looks as if only gay people being killed are of interest to Jones and he isn’t at all concerned about real reasons for the killings…the anti-Western, anti-Liberal Islamically inspired reasons….anti the society that created the conditions where gay people could live, love and express themsleves so freely.  Odd that Jones doesn’t defend that society but instead defends the very people that attack it.

A policeman and his wife murdered in Paris.  Human beings, but not gay human beings so who cares?  Not Owen Jones.  Ecce Homo.

Still no mention, no condemnation, no message of sympathy from Jones.

 

 

 

THE INSANITY OF BREXIT..

This is quite interesting. Here is a tweet that is quite clearly taking a side in the EU referendum. The Remain side, of course.

And look who has retweeted it….

Presenter on  and  TV.

News Anchor/Presenter BBC World News – Biz Presenter on World Business Report, GMT, Impact & Global.

Gosh – studied impartiality?????

DON’T MENTION THE ….

Touching to see the BBC weigh in seeking our sympathy for the latest radical Islamist killer.

The former girlfriend of the man who murdered a police couple at their home has spoken of his “isolation” after spending two-and-a-half years in jail.

Oh no – felt lonely so I guess he was almost obliged to go out and kill?

The woman, who did not want to give her full name, told France Info radio the couple had dated for five years and remained close after they split up. But after Larossi Abballa left jail last year, she said, he “preferred to keep his distance and changed friends”. A moment of silence was held for the murdered pair on Wednesday.

The town of Magnanville, west of Paris, was holding a memorial ceremony for police commander Jean-Baptiste Savaing, 42, and Jessica Schneider, 36, who were knifed to death there on Monday night.

The BBC falls over itself to excuse these Ramadan driven savages. It’s the same with what happened in Orlando. They are doing their level best to disassociate the killing from the dark ages pathology of Islam and it sickening to behold.

 

The Hand of Allah

 

Censored! Bikini advert blacked out with spray paint by ‘Muslim extremists who object to women in swimsuits’

 

Covered up: The bikini model's body and face have been obscured by spray paint on this street in Birmingham

 

No more need for the ‘Muslim Patrols’….we have ‘London’s first Muslim mayor’ as the presumably ‘racist’ BBC keeps telling us.   Perhaps the BBC should tell us exactly what that means as Sadiq Khan tries to ban adverts showing ‘skin’….using the excuse of not promoting bad body images…one might suggest this has more to do with him imposing his religion upon Londoners than about health.

London’s Muslim Mayor To Ban Sexualised Images Of Women

London’s first ever Muslim Mayor is set to ban images of ‘unrealistic’ scantily clad women from ads on public transport, which could see the city adopt some of the most censorious policies in the Western world.

Sadiq Khan argued for the move by appropriating the language of feminism, claiming that alluring images of beautiful women could make them “ashamed of their bodies”.

Ironically, the policy is likely to please both the misogynistic Islamist and prudish, third wave feminist, whose ends appear increasingly similar.

The announcement comes five years after suspected Islamists began painting over images of bikini clad women in Tower Hamlets in East London, and last year after feminists began similarly defacing images of women in bikinis on London transport.

 

 

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

‘HE WAS GAY’ Orlando gunman’s ex-wife makes bombshell claim that ISIS fanatic used Grindr dating app and visited gay clubs

 

The BBC, and Owen Jones, have been pushing the line that the killing of 49 gay people in Orland has nothing to do with Islam and is purely a homophobic hate crime, the BBC leaping upon the suggestion that the killer saw two men kissing and it so enraged him he went on a murderous rampage, as you do.

From the Spectator….Owen Jones’ hypocrisy…..

 

Sky news suggested that, yes Gays were targeted here, but that was no different to non-Muslims, Jews, cartoonists, tourists on the beach, people at a football match or at a music gig being targeted.  Sky was saying that this was just one part of an overall war on the West and its society and culture and that we shouldn’t forget that and try to, as the BBC and Jones do, suppress the fact that this is an Islamically inspired attack and not a singular event defined by the killer’s supposed homophobia.

Today we hear news that not only raises questions about the BBC’s rush to judgement on that ‘two men kissing’ narrative but also their attempt to sideline the Islamic State angle.

The killer, it turns out, was allegedly gay himself.  Or bisexual, please yourself.

Therefore….not homophobic by nature.  Therefore driven by some other outside motivation or ideology.

About time the BBC, and Jones, faced the facts and started to tell the truth about why gays were targeted here…and of the preachers who attended the Orlando mosque preaching anti-gay rhetoric, and of the killer’s links to a radical imam who had links to our very own Cage…so beloved of the BBC.

Just why does the BBC give so much airtime to a bunch of Islamist apologists and activists?

KILLER’S EXTREMIST CONNECTIONS Orlando shooter’s links to Islamic hate cleric who preached in Birmingham

British extremism apologist group backed killer’s imam

THE fanatical Islamic preacher thought to have inspired Orlando massacre monster Omar Mateen is backed by a British group that defended Jihadi John.

Extremism apologists CAGE asked its supporters to fund the legal fees of gay-hating Marcus Robertson as he fought terror charges in the US last year.

‘Je ne suis pas Charlie’

Oh, and one final thought….all those Muslims, and their BBC apologists, who objected so loudly to ‘#Jesuischarlie’…will they also be objecting to all the outpourings of sympathy for the dead in Orlando?  Surely they feel left out of the solidarity events, unable to take part and therefore once again we have Muslims marginalised…and potentially radicalised…stop these marches now!!!

‘Je ne suis pas Gay?’

 

UK vigil . . . In Soho in London last night

 

 

Listen you lot!!

 

Alan Johnson thinks the problem is that the voters are an ignorant bunch who just won’t listen to what the ‘elite’ tell them to do.  Sounds as if he has been taking the BBC college of journalism course in political analysis.

Never mind, Aunty is here to make it better and improve our minds…in the shape of Mishal Husain.  I saw that she has a programme on immigration tonight on BBC2 at 9pm that will give us the facts on immigration.  If like me you laughed out loud on reading that and can’t bare to watch such a programme you will be delighted to know that Mishal has conveniently written up her project for our easy consumption on the website….all your ‘prejudices’ about such a programme, your very low expectations, will be confirmed absolutely.

Her opening statement is an exercise in self-delusion…

How can it be that one of the biggest concerns for British voters is something that British politicians often find difficult to talk about, let alone address?

That has traditionally been the case as far as immigration is concerned, but ahead of the referendum, immigration from the European Union has come to the fore.

Politicians find it difficult to talk about immigration because the BBC et al immediately vilify and denounce them as racists and link them to the Nazis if they dare to raise the issue.   The BBC, instead of encouraging and facilitating debate, has crushed and suppressed it….just look what it did to the completely innocent UKIP councillor, Rozanne Duncan, whom the BBC publicly crucified as a racist as part of their campaign against UKIP in the run up to the election.

Husain has a Leaver and a Remainer on to tell us why they will vote as they will….the Remain voter is…a Polish immigrant who has now got British citizenship…so no real surprise which way she is voting….and which rather confirms the believe that part of Labour’s ploy to open the borders to EU citizens was in the knowledge that should a referendum on EU membership take place by the time it does happen many of the immigrants would have taken out citizenship and have the ability to vote…and the likelihood is that they would vote to stay in the EU.  In other words Labour loaded the dice and rigged the referendum long ago.  I have yet to hear the BBC raise such a possibility and that the flood of immigrants was deliberate rather than just a mistake.

Husain herself is an immigrant so are we likely to get a balanced and genuinely informative programme?  Not judging by the web write up…and it is patently obvious that a Polish immigrant is not the right person to have on to talk about voting on immigration…she has an intense personal interest in a pro-immigration outcome, an affinity for ‘Europe’ and little attachment to ‘Britain’, its culture, history, self-image and place in the world.

In summary, Husain feeds us what is pure Remain propaganda as her conclusions….immigrants don’t really use the NHS, they fill the gaps in the jobs market as ‘aspirational’ young Brits move up the ladder, immigrants pay far more in tax than they take out in benefits, migrants are forced to live in damp squalor (because they are so low paid…er…how do they pay so much tax then?) and they have health problems as a result (er…so they use the NHS then?) …oh, but without migrant workers the health sector would collapse.  The Polish voter also loves our diversity…it’s so healthy and of course it is the EU that has stopped all war…

And for them, the EU also represents an ideal. Grazyna’s own mother was deported by the Soviets from eastern Poland to Central Asia after World War Two, and she does not take life in a time of peace and stability for granted. On 23 June, she’ll be voting Remain.

 

From Migration Watch which suggests that once the correct figures are used the benefits are close to zero…..

‘Immigration provides great economic benefit?’

The House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee, reporting in April 2008, said that what mattered was GDP per head. They concluded that:

We have found no evidence for the argument, made by the government, business and many others, that net immigration generates significant economic benefits for the existing UK population.In January 2012 the Migration Advisory Committee went further. They said that even GDP per head exaggerated the benefit of immigration because:

It is the immigrants themselves rather than the extant residents who are the main gainers.

‘Immigrants are not a problem as they work hard and pay tax?’

Some of the limited research in this area had found that there might be a small positive fiscal impact to immigration. Nonetheless, according to the House of Lords Economic Committee “the fiscal impact (of immigration) is small compared to GDP and cannot be used to justify large-scale immigration”.

However, the presumption of even a small fiscal benefit has been comprehensively overturned by a UCL study published in 2014 which found the fiscal impact of migrants in the UK between 1995 and 2011 was in fact a net cost of between £115 and £160 billion that is between £19 and £26 million per day.

The same study claimed that East European migrants contributed £5 billion to the Exchequer between 2001 and 2011. However that calculation was based on the assumption that they paid, from the moment of their arrival, corporate and business taxes at the same rate as lifelong UK residents. Correcting for this brought the contribution close to zero.

‘Migrants are less likely to claim benefits?’

Figures from the DWP show that migrants to the UK are less likely to claim out-of-work benefits. But large amounts of the total benefits bill are paid to people in work, in particular tax credits and housing benefit. Research shows that some migrant groups are much more likely to be claiming these key benefits than the general population.

 

And obviously there are the invisible, non-cash benefits that migrants get…schools, the NHS, the use of State services…police, fire, ambulance etc and not least the pressure on the roads, and environment, from all the extra cars.

Husain does her best to separate out and hide the reality that mass immigration puts huge pressure on infrastructure and on society itself…the cultural friction and conflicts that arise are ignored by her….what for instance is the likely outcome of millions of Muslims entering Europe and being able to enter the UK as well…and that’s before Turkey is allowed to enter by the backdoor as special arrangements are made to speed up its entry?

 

And what of this?…This is the real question that the BBC should be asking…what happens if we vote to stay in?  The EU economy is on the rocks, immigrants are flooding into Europe in massive numbers and will destabilise the continent, the EU itself is pushing for ever-closer union…will the UK be forced to join?  You bet.  But the BBC doesn’t want you to know that…or any of this…..

Everything the EU Is Hiding Until After the Referendum

 

 

Owen Jones….The Islamists’ useful idiot

Owen Jones has stormed out of a Sky interview claiming that the Sky presenter, Mark Longhurst, wasn’t interested in the killings in Orlando as ‘homophobic hate crimes’ and that because Longhurst isn’t gay he can’t possibly understand what went on.   Watch the interview and you’ll see that it is Jones who doesn’t understand what is being said…and ironically storms out as the Telegraph headline of an IS ‘war on gays’ is being discussed and Stonewall being quoted….Jones edits that truth out of his video clip in the Guardian where he tries to pillory Longhurst.

The point Longhurst was making was that this wasn’t an attack aimed solely at gay people…this was an attack on the West, the liberal, progressive West that has gone so far down the road to accepting ‘Gay’ as normal.  This is just part of the whole IS campaign against the West and non-Muslims who want a secular, democratic society in which people are as free as possible to say, think and do what they like….it was not just an attack on gay people.

Sky got the narrative right, we should be asking what are the overall aims of the Islamic State and what is their motivation?

Owen Jones and the BBC look on this as purely an issue of hatred against gays…the BBC’s latest report also looks at it purely from this perspective and ignores the Islamic State, the Islam issue almost completely….only the last sentence gives the lie to what the BBC presented to us in the rest of the report…and makes the point Sky was making……

“Isis and extremist ideology hate all of us,” he says. “It’s really an attack on all of us. It’s an attack on the way we live – our openness.”

Jones is of course a Marxist in league with the very people who have the ideology that drives the Islamic State…he agreed to appear on the Islamist Mend organisation’s tour and talk alongside a man well known for making homophobic speeches…..the Left never learn….In Iran they joined up with the Islamists to overthrow the Shah and ended up as the useful idiots that opened the door for gays to be killed for the crime of being gay in Iran…maybe Jones should think more carefully about what ideology he teams up with.

From Harry’s Place…...Not only does this Muslim express his hatred of gays he explains why the West is so dissolute…..it allows gays to exist….Jones should wake up instead of sharing platforms with such people…..

In our own time – I remember as a kid in the 80s, which gives you an idea of how old I was  – growing up in the 80s … I remember how homosexuals were looked down upon, and the names that were give to these people, and how disgusted the average masses were with that segment of society.

Now look! Now look at how we have regressed – not progressed. Where it is impossible, forget a Muslim, even a Christian or a Jew, can not stand up in public in front of a non-Muslim audience, and speak against homosexuality. He is a homophobe! He is an evil person! How dare he preaches hatred against this group of people!

 

 

 

Jones ends his Guardian self-justification with this…

Today, the “we only care about LGBT rights if Muslims are involved” brigade are out in force. As a gay man, I am proud to live in a city represented by a Muslim mayor who has faced death threats for supporting and voting for LGBT people to have the same rights as everybody else. The bigots must not be allowed to hijack this atrocity.

That’ll be Sadiq Khan who called moderate Muslims who wanted to cooperate with the government in the fight against terrorism ‘Uncle Toms’.

Jones, deluded as always.