In the Open Thread, Anthony Masters calls our attention to Jonny Dymond’s hate-mongering piece about an alleged “explosion” in hate groups in the US because we have a black President. Stop me if you’ve heard this Narrative before…..
I say it’s hate-mongering and not reporting, because the intent here is to make you hate millions of people like me by falsely associating them with a few ugly extremists. This isn’t about raising awareness of anti-Semitism or racism: it’s about creating the impression in your minds that any opposition to anything done by a black President is due to racism and extremism rather than any legitimate policy concerns. There is no valid journalistic reason for this report.
Dymond’s only real source for this story is the Southern Poverty Law Center. Well, while it used to be a respectable advocacy group with a history of fighting the Klan, it’s come to resemble a far-Left hate group with a pro-Democrat agenda in the last few years. They started this Narrative that we’re all out to get the black man over two years ago, and don’t care about facts. They’ve become a propaganda outlet, so it’s only natural that the BBC would look to them for information.
Here’s all you need to know about the SPLC:
Southern Poverty Law Center Still Peddling Lie That Giffords Shooter Was Right-Winger
What a shock: it’s the same lie the BBC peddled. (Bias bonus: Rachel Kennedy tweeted a link to the HuffPo to support the lie.)
A group of leading genocide scholars this month sent the center a stinging letter, obtained by Inside Higher Ed, that charges the center with getting out of a lawsuit in part by assisting “unscholarly and unethical” efforts to cast doubt on the Armenian genocide.
They’re even being sued over libel on this issue:
Scholar’s libel suit proceeds against Southern Poverty Law Center
Guenter Lewy’s very interesting libel case against the Southern Poverty Law Center can proceed in the District of Columbia, a trial judge ruled Tuesday.
This one is worth watching.
Lewy is an emeritus professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts. A survivor of German violence against Jews during World War II, Prof. Lewy has written numerous books and articles about the history of persecuted peoples. In 2005, the University of Utah Press published his book, “The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: A Disputed Genocide.”
Dymond and the Beeboid who hooked him up with the SPLC probably have no idea. It’s not important to the Narrative.
Does the Southern Poverty Law Center think Barack Obama is spreading hate?
They’re adding 13 new groups to the list of hate groups for opposing homosexuality. Now some of those groups do appear to be a bit extreme, but others such as the Family Research Council and National Organization for Marriage are hardly outside the political mainstream, and still others seem to be condemned by the SPLC for no reason other than adhering to biblical teaching on homosexuality.
This is perfect fodder for Dymond. Don’t agree with the BBC’s core values? You’re an extremist and hater. (Unless you’re Muslim, that is.)
Liberals desperate to connect the Tea Party with domestic terrorism
Tea Party leaders say a series of reports by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) attempting to connect the Tea Party movement with domestic terrorists in the militia movement shows how desperate the left has become trying to stop the political juggernaut.
The group says individuals such as Glenn Beck, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann — all regulars at major Tea Party gatherings — have given widespread visibility for ideas espoused by the militia movement, or the “Patriot movement” as SPLC calls it.
No wonder Max Deveson or someone similar sent Dymond to the SPLC to form the foundation of his report. Too bad they’re not very reliable these days.
The SPLC said there was a big KKK rise in Rhode Island, but police found no evidence.
In short, the BBC had a Narrative they wanted to establish in your minds, the same one they pushed down your throats before the 2008 election, and the same one they shoved down after it about the rise of the Tea Party movement. Now that their beloved Obamessiah is in trouble, they’re doing the exact same thing again. They had a story they wanted to tell, so some Beeboid in the US hooked Dymond up with the SPLC. These people see racists and extremists in every closet, under every bed. Everywhere except where they really ought to look.
Where were they when Leftoids were calling for the lynching of a black Supreme Court Justice?
Don’t trust the BBC on US issues. Ever.
David P,
Well I never thought I would see Prof. Lewy’s name on this website !
Good luck to him.
His book on the Armenian “Disputed Genocide” is a masterpiece of objective academic analysis.
The BBC could learn a lot from him.
As I mentioned in the open thread, Dymond’s article links to the SPLC’s map of hate groups. Suprisingly these include black supremacist organisations such as Nation of Islam, the National Black Foot Soldier Network, the New Black Panther Party and the Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ. None of that is mentioned by Jonny Dymond, of course.
I notice that the SPLC doesn’t appear to concern iteslf with radical Islamist groups and mosques [Nation of Islam is marked as black separatist rather than Islamic supremacist]. There have been a number of Islamic terrorist plots foiled in the US since Obama came to power (not to mention the mass murder at Fort Hood). Again, that sort of thing wouldn’t fit the tidy BBC narrative Dymond is trying to promote.
I see Dymond did cover the Islamist threat in a programme last week (haven’t listened to it yet). There was no equivalent prominently displayed online article on the BBC’s US/Canada news page for that one so I didn’t know about it.
I listened to as much as I could stomach. The Islamist threat is our fault, of course. US policies radicalize them, the inherent xenophobia and racial makeup of the average United Statesian makes life difficult for Muslims.
Episode 2: The Nazi underbelly of the US, which was just itching for a chance to come to the surface.
Funny how it always works out like that, isn’t it? Got to feel sorry for the poor radical Islamists, buffeted by events beyond their control.
This is from Dymond’s intro to his programme on Islamic radicalism in the US – note the phrases in bold:
“….in the last few years there have been growing fears of a new threat to the United States from extremist Islam. It’s very small but some say it is on the rise.”
How unlike his online article about the white supremacist groups – they are, unequivocally, “on the rise again”.
Not just Islamic terrorist PLOTS – there have been quite a few actual Islamic terrorist incidents – in particular the Fort Hood massacre
Here’s some violence and hatred among groups which have sprung up since 2008 that Dymond and the BBC don’t want you to know about:
Give Peace a Chance
Why does the media keep downplaying the violence at left-wing protests?
I made the same point to Katty Kay in December:
@KattyKayBBC Re your No Labels report – why “angry extremes of the Tea Party” but no mention of the angry left? 5:28 PM Dec 14th, 2010 via web 4d2b
@KattyKayBBC And if peaceable Tea Party represents “angry extremes”, what phrase do you save for the rioting left in Europe? 5:32 PM Dec 14th, 2010 via web 4d2b
Whatever happened to No Labels, btw?
Opinion piece.
The Obamamessiah promised more than he could ever hope to achieve, but this ‘audacity of hope’ coupled with his ‘blackness’ was perceived by swathes of the liberals, street and intelligentsia, as a turning point.
The first ‘black’ president.
The cold light of reality, the failure to make rhetoric meet reality has exposed Obama.
This sense of shock among those who have seen that they have both misjudged and misplaced their trust is causing these strange accusations of racism.
Obama has failed….he is, in reality, a victim (they seem to imply), obstructed at every turn by….you know who.
Obama, has been stymied not because of political overstretch, the reality of deficit and debt.
No. The enemy is (white) racism. The gutter left is now on a witch hunt. Racists are under every bed leaving nooses on porches, behind bushes.
Obama is failing not because Obama has been found wanting but because he is……of a certain colour
The Freedom Flotilla sitting in Piraeus are convinced that Obama is under the influence of Zionists. They are disappointed that their boat , the ‘Audacity of Hope’ was not wafted into Gaza by the will of the Obamamessiah. They are angry.
That the liberal/left is gaining confirmation of this ‘conspiracy’ of Republicans, Conservatives, Ku Klux Klan and a focus for their hurt, is because outlets like the BBC give them oxygen for their prejudice.
What they read tells them that they are right.
Confirmation bias.
And the BBC is right in there.
Interesting that both you and David Preiser use the phrase “under every bed”. Exactly the same thought came to my mind when I read Dymond’s piece earlier.
How did the Great Black Hope get elected? The black vote, which would not vote for whitey, came out and voted for the first time.
Of course that’s not racist at all is it?
Do you see what Jonny Dymond does there? He conflates ‘right-wing’ and ‘so-called “hate groups”‘ in his opening paragraph. Clever!
‘Right-wing’ is, especially in US politics, a euphemism for barking mad fundamentalist racist [fill in the appropriate pejorative] as anyone who is vaguely right-of-centre knows.
The rest of article isn’t terrible, although clearly David knows more about SPLC’s credentials than I; also, one suspects the piece is rather talking up the threat of domestic terrorism.
Of course, one could conclude from reading this article that the number of ‘right-wing and ‘so-called “hate groups”‘ will be reduced if Americans boot Barack Obama out of office next year! Is Jonny a secret Republican?
Well, he did. I was going to comment on that because I was struck by how not only did he conflate hate groups with rightwing groups but how he characterised anti-central government-encroachment groups as “far right”, in addition to associating them with the hate groups:
Hate groups and other groups on the far right – so-called Patriot groups which vow to resist the encroachments of the Federal government, and anti-immigrant nativist groups – are tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Centre (SPLC).
dear dear, full on colonial guilt lobby
just wait for ep 2
goodness me, looks like the same scriptwriter as “luther”(a black dectective)last week
white guy smashes up a car/sprays acid…right check out all the race hate groups, put out a capital alert ..white power aryan nation ..stormfront..white nationalists blah blah…er that ll be all the white ones then, 🙂
i hope next week, they might take consider a few facts like this :-
“Researchers Mordechai Kedar and David Yerushalmi reported in the Summer 2011 issue of Middle East Quarterly about a new survey that found that “51% of mosques had texts that either advocated the use of violence in the pursuit of a Sharia-based political order or advocated violent jihad as a duty that should be of paramount importance to a Muslim.” Another 30% of mosques in the United States “had only texts that were moderately supportive of violence,” while only “19% had no violent texts at all.”
Terrorism expert Yehudit Barsky affirmed in 2005, saying that 80% of the mosques in this country “have been radicalized by Saudi money and influence.” The Center for Religious Freedom in 2005 found a massive distribution of hateful jihadist and Islamic supremacist material in mosques in this country. The Mapping Sharia Project’s 2008 study likewise found that upwards of 80% of mosques in America were preaching hatred of Jews and Christians and the necessity ultimately to impose Islamic rule”
much more like this & you d think jonny dymond, could make a 23 min show out of just reading the stats.
but then again
when will the “islamophobia” ever end 🙂
Strange isn’t how charities (sorry NGOs) like the SPLC can’t call it a day when they have achieved their objective. I mean lets face it the KKK these days consists of a couple of hundred weirdos half of which just enjoy dressing up and the other half being FBI informers. More to the point since the USA elected a black (well nearly) President it pretty much proves the country isn’t exactly seething with race hate. But instead of calling it a day and throwing a party to congratulate themselves new enemies must be found and the jobs for life (whoops I mean movement) must continue.
If they hadn’t elected him, that would have proved they were raaaacist and now that they have elected him, well, of course, they are still raaaacist. And we have proved it. QED.
And so it shall ever be in Beeboidland.
the intent here is to make you hate millions of people like me by falsely associating them with a few ugly extremists.
But don’t we see the same thing when people associate ordinary Muslims wiht a few ugly Muslim extremists? Isn’t the intent there to make you hate millions of people?
Irrelevant. A distraction from the point.
But the Beeboid Corporation is against associating Muslims with Muslim terrorists and against making people hate Muslims.
But the Beeboid Corporation is against associating Muslims with Muslim terrorists and against making people hate Muslims.
Surely no one wold want to make that connection any more than anyone would want to associate any group with those who inhabit the extreme fringes of that group.
So if Dymond is wrong to even attempt to connect the two, against which the author of this post objects, then is that not a universal and forcing such connections should always be wrong?
In fact the more I read the piece by Dymond, the less I agree with the critique. He has established a causal relationship between the growth of the groups and the election of Obama. He has supporting quotes, including a named member of one of the groups; he does not rely on a single source.
In contast, the assertion that the piece is designed with the intent of “creating the impression in your minds that any opposition to anything done by a black President is due to racism and extremism rather than any legitimate policy concerns”
is not substantiated. There is no evidence to support this statement. It is simply asserted.. The rest of the post purports to be a critique of sources. But even if it is a source, it is not cited in the piece. It is only cited as a external link. At no point in the piece is the law center quoted. So there is no evidence that the center had any influence on the original piece.
Instead the author of the post seeks to make a link between the article and this law center. Is that not the same technique aganst which he rails? i.e. Forging associations which don’t exist.
The law center is a red herring. It does appear to be worthy of the critique in the link to the post by the Examiner.
I do think that the first paragraph of the BBC article is poorly contructed. Is “and so-called” paranthetical or is there an implied comma and a missing definite article. Are we supposed to think that the consequent of the election is the growth of the right wing, and the growth of hate groups, or are we supposed to think that the election is the cause of the growth of that subset of hate groups characterised by being right wing? Sloppy writing leaves the question open to misinterpretation.
Dymond has not proven a causal relationship between the election of a black President and the “growth” of these groups. Where is the proof of a surge in Klan membership or an increase in attacks on black people or an increase in Nazi groups? There isn’t any.
What Dymond and the SPLC are doing is pointing at people who were already extremist but are getting more attention now that we have a black President and crying, “See? See?”
And what the BBC in general are doing is attempting to create an atmosphere in which any criticism of a black President is automatically associated with racism.
Wasn`t Dymond the one done for having drugs for personal use whilst hopping round Europe on location a few years back.
It was that name I`m sure!
No mention on Barack Broadcasting Corp that Orly Taitz has got subpoena to inspect BHO birth certificate.
Click to access Court-subpoena-HI-.pdf
If anyone is interested there’s a very clever economics guy who has done a lot of research on Barry’s fake birth certificate. I know it all seems rather tin foil, but it’s worth a look at the evidence here:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2527481
The first birth cert. post is linked above. Several, more recent ones can be found using the site search facility.
Well worth a read, and suggests that at least some loony tune internet conspiracy theories are not as crazy as they first sound.
“US ‘hate groups’ bolstered by Obama’s election” says Jonny Dymond. Hey, maybe he’s right – sort of:
Shaina Perry remembers the punch to her face, blood streaming from a cut over her eye, her backpack with her asthma inhaler, debit card and cellphone stolen, and then the laughter.
“They just said ‘Oh, white girl bleeds a lot,’?” said Perry, 22, who was attacked at Kilbourn Reservoir Park over the Fourth of July weekend…
Perry was among several who were injured by a mob they said beat and robbed them and threw full beer bottles while making racial taunts. The injured people were white; the attackers were African-American, witnesses said.
Heh. So does Kenneth Gladney, a black man beaten by white activists for ideological reasons.
(Btw DP the 2nd and 3rd links in the blogpost go to the same page.)
Thanks, DB. Link fixed (first of the two). Too many lies to keep track of.
So how come Dymond (with drug conviction for trying to transport narcotics internationally) got a US VISA approved to work in Washington DC?
Did he declare conviction?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1580845/BBCs-Jonny-Dymond-caught-with-cannabis.html
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